Linux-Misc Digest #844, Volume #21 Fri, 17 Sep 99 03:13:09 EDT
Contents:
LILO and WIN98 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PostScript to Word? ("Richard Link")
Re: winmodem driver to linux (Jerry Lapham)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (bilge)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Ken Pizzini)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Caldera 2.3 Install-- Smoooooooth (Stan Barr)
Re: Redhat Upgrade (5.1 -> 6.0) (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
problem with .forward (Matt Spong)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (bilge)
Re: xf86config ("justinian")
Re: can't compile 2.1.59 (Peter Samuelson)
Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt. (Adrian Hands)
Search Path - how do I set? (J Chamney)
Re: LILO and WIN98 (Cameron L. Spitzer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LILO and WIN98
Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:42:03 GMT
Hello dudes,
a friend of mine has linux 2.2.12, latest debian (unstable), but after
installing win98 , the LILO prompt disapeared. OK, we've tried fdisk /MBR,
with win98 fdisk program, and after run lilo again but NO LUCK.
Have you any ideas? Thank you,
Nuno Sucena
--
http://alumni.dee.uc.pt/~slug
CT1FOX
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From: "Richard Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: PostScript to Word?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:01:58 -0500
Christopher Browne wrote in message ...
>On 15 Sep 1999 22:50:15 GMT, T.P Harte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Don't quite know where to post this one...
>>
>>Does anyone know if it is possible to convert .ps documents
>>created by, say LaTeX and dvips, into MS Word 6.0 .doc files?
>
>You could take that Postscript output, render it into .gif or .jpeg
>images, and include those images as part of a MS Word document file.
>
>That's about as good as it gets; the transformation into Postscript is
>very nearly one-way.
It's quite easy, actually. Get a scanner and some optical character
recognition
software - a lot of low-end scanners come with TextBridge Classic, for
instance.
I'm using Textbridge 9.0 now, and the accuracy is > 99%. Just yesterday, I
scanned
an old LaTeX document into Word 97, and it works incredibly well. TB9.0 even
turns
the figures into GIF's and retains the page positions, as well as tables.
....Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Lapham)
Subject: Re: winmodem driver to linux
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:02:37
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/16/99
at 12:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >Besides, winmodems are a total waste of space and processor time.
> >(Why not make your sound card produce the modem sounds? It's the same
> >principle)
> >
> ....<snip>...
> Hmmm, interesting idea. It would be quite a publicity stunt that might
> make the general public more aware of just what they're getting when
> they get a winmodem. But...is there a connection to the phone line?
> Could an adapter be built and sold real cheap, "Use Your Soundcard as a
> Modem!" the ads could say.
Didn't IBM do just this with their Aptivas? I think they had a card
called MWave or something like that that was their sound card and their
modem.
-Jerry
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Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Written Thursday, September 16, 1999 - 09:02 PM (EDT)
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MR/2 Ice tag: Clinton first Inaugural: "I've already raised your taxes."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bilge)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 17 Sep 1999 05:12:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris J/#6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] blared:
>Silly question - which country does this law exist? I'm UK based...is this
>a UK issue? Or is it stateside ?
>
Stateside.
>This is certainly an intriguing act - has it been tested in a real case
>yet or is it just there waiting for the lawyers to pounce ?
>
Not to the full draconian extent. I believe that jumping on the
the opportunuites to prosecute all at once would lose the effect
of gradual although grudging acceptance. Recently, however, the
no electronic theft act which was supposed to plug a hole in
copyright protection ffound a victim. Originally there was a
barrier to prosecution in that a violation required that the
potential violator be seeking to profit from the violation,
and have done so to the tune of > $1000.00. Now, you need only
copy software worth more than $1000.00. Since sun claimed copying
solaris source code was a theft of $80,000,000.00, I dont think
the price tag is much of an obstacle.
><satire>
>Does it also mean that if you modify Windows95 to the point that you
>purge out all the crap that isn't needed and afterwards it doesn't
>crash, you've breached the act? *grin*
></satire>
It could. I think it can also be used to prevent linux applications
which would read any proprietary document formats without licensing.
excerpt:
(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide,
or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device,
component, or part thereof, that--
(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of
circumventing a technological measure that effectively
controls access to a work protected under this title;
(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other
than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively
controls access to a work protected under this title; or
(C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with
that person with that person's knowledge for use in circumventing
a technological measure that effectively controls access to a
work protected under this title.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 05:25:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16 Sep 1999 11:05:12 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>BTW: Leslie, now Linux ps implementation is avoiding the - on the
>>options. I think as you it is an error (I understand you want to say
>>it) and a better syntax is not a simplified syntax. I think that
>>the - must not be omited.
>
>Agreed. I still type the - on ps options to Linux and just
>ignore the silly complaint it makes about not needing it.
>Otherwise my fingers will forget it on the machines where it
>is needed.
The warning was there for a reason; if you're still getting the
warning that means that you're still using an old version of ps.
Recent versions of ps for Linux no longer warn --- if you use a
leading - on your options you get a POSIX compatable ps, and if
you omit the leading - you get a BSD style ps. The authors
state in the README something to the effect of "we've been
issuing a warning for quite some time that users shouldn't be
using - syntax with BSD ps options, we are finally making the
change which we wanted to make back when we added that warning".
Compare "ps e" with "ps -e" when using procps version 2.0.2 or
newer.
--Ken Pizzini
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 01:06:24 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ken Pizzini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Agreed. I still type the - on ps options to Linux and just
>>ignore the silly complaint it makes about not needing it.
>>Otherwise my fingers will forget it on the machines where it
>>is needed.
>
>The warning was there for a reason; if you're still getting the
>warning that means that you're still using an old version of ps.
>Recent versions of ps for Linux no longer warn --- if you use a
>leading - on your options you get a POSIX compatable ps, and if
>you omit the leading - you get a BSD style ps. The authors
>state in the README something to the effect of "we've been
>issuing a warning for quite some time that users shouldn't be
>using - syntax with BSD ps options, we are finally making the
>change which we wanted to make back when we added that warning".
>
>Compare "ps e" with "ps -e" when using procps version 2.0.2 or
>newer.
So what do you type if you don't want to bother remembering which
xterm is logged into Linux/freeBSD/Solaris and you want the full
list so you can pipe it to grep?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Subject: Re: Caldera 2.3 Install-- Smoooooooth
Date: 17 Sep 1999 06:06:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:49:57 GMT, dancho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I plunked down the thirty-five hard earned bucks and installed Caldera
>2.3 on my AMD K6-2 450 system. I was pleasantly surprised that the
>installation was VERY smooth. Almost trouble-free.
I've heard good things about Calderas installation - I was thinking
about using for my new box. While I don't mind installing stuff myself,
I would like to find a distro I could recommend to complete newbies.
Anyone else any comments?
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The future was never like this!
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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Upgrade (5.1 -> 6.0)
Date: 17 Sep 1999 05:14:35 GMT
>Does the Upgrade option work at all? what problems might it give me.
I dunno. RedHat 5.1 is Glibc 2.0 based. 6.0 is Glibc 2.1 based. They're
binary incompatible. An upgrade works only if you install all the
RedHat stuff using RPMS. If you like to compile from the sources using
the tarballs and installing under /usr/local or other dirs, you'll
have a lot of problems with an upgrade. I recommend that you wait for
RedHat 6.1, backup what you REALLY need (no binaries of course), and
install like a new installation. I'm happy with my RedHat 5.1 up to
date.
--
Frederic L. W. Meunier | fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,urbi.com.br}
IRC: _19751127!date | ICQ: 49149663 | Tel: +55-21-620-7173 (Brasil)
AppWatch staff - http://appwatch.com/ - {fredlwm,staff}@appwatch.com
+-Open Source with quality-+
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From: Matt Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with .forward
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 02:03:13 -0400
Hi
After 2 days of pulling my hair out trying to get procmail working on my
RedHat 6 system, it turns out there's something wrong with the way my
system is handling .forward files... I tried putting this in my .forward
file:
"|cat > /home/spong/test.out"
And then emailing myself, but test.out never materializes (and the email
falls off the face of the earth)! It turns out my mailer was never
invoking procmail for some reason. This is a RedHat 6 system, as I said,
and while I've upgraded a lot of stuff, nothing should have broken this.
If anybody has any ideas why this is not working correctly, please email
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for your time
Matt Spong
====================< 1999: The Year of the Penguin >====================
Matt Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
UM Linux Users' Group Secretary <http://www.umlug.umd.edu/>
"Y'arr... sometimes I wonder why I plunder at all..."
Finger for public key, or see http://www.wam.umd.edu/~spong/crypto.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bilge)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: 17 Sep 1999 05:19:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Torsten Poulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] blared:
> "Copying of a software program's code and translation of the form
>of the code is legal when this is necessary to obtain the information
>necessary to achieve interoperability between an independently developed
>software program and other software programs [...]"
>
>It is interesting to note that these rights cannot be limited by
>agreement.
>
I belive you also have laws precluding software vendors from
installing "time bombs", vendor "self help" and the like in
software to disable software which has been "licensed" and
over which a dispute develops. All chances for that here have
been lost as well, with the passage of UCITA.
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From: "justinian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: xf86config
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:50:04 +0800
You may try to select Monitor acer 33D
Justinian
Oooo ���g��峹 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>u is good i only display to 320x 240
>so i dont know to set
>my display card is G400
>Mon. is viewsonic 14es
>
>Lohengrin wrote:
>
>> Hello, I'm new to Linux.
>> I got a problem with configuring Xf86 (My ver is 3.3.2).
>>
>> The window can only be set to 1024 x 768.
>> My mon goes off when attempting with other res.
>>
>> I can't even set it to a standard VGA with 640x 480.
>> The most awful thing is that the screen split into 2!
>>
>> My video card's Leadtek WinFast 3D S680 w/2M
>> The chip's S3 ViRGE/GX2; DAC: S3 SDAC
>> My mom's MAG XJ500.
>>
>> How can I fix this apart from downloading X 3.3.5 (I would, of course.)?
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> PS Mail reply is appreciated.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: can't compile 2.1.59
Date: 17 Sep 1999 01:08:03 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Guilhem Tardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> I am trying to compile the kernel 2.1.59... from a RH 6.0 (2.2.11)
> system. I have installed the older gcc successfully (and seperately
> from the more recent version), but I can't make the old binutils find
> the libraries.
Out of curiosity, why on earth do you want to do this? (Or be there a
serious typo up there somewhere?) 2.1.59 has no distinguishing marks
that I can remember other than Richard's MTRR support which I think
made it into that patch.
With older kernels you may wish to use gcc 2.7.2 instead of egcs or
post-egcs, but you shouldn't really have to touch the new binutils.
It's not like you're compiling it a.out or something.
> > I used the variable GCC_EXEC_PREFIX in the Makefile, or the option
> > "-B/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib" for gcc
What you want is "gcc -B/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i586-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/"
(with your arch and version) and note the trailing slash.
If you really do need a different binutils, gcc can find "as" and "ld"
in /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/$ARCH/$VERSION/. For some architectures
(e.g. PowerPC) the kernel compile also requires things like objcopy;
just make it look in /usr/local/bin or whatever.
> I am no expert with this, I admit. Would you have any advice on how
> to make the assembler (as) and other binutils find the files and
> spare me the pain to install a full (old) RH just for a compilation?
Just switch to Debian. (: Then you can install the "gcc" and "egcc"
packages (gcc 2.7.2.3 and egcs 1.1.2 respectively) and watch them
coexist peacefully. In 2.2 ("potato", the version due out in November
if Debian breaks a record and ships on time) we now have "gcc" (2.95.2)
and "gcc272" (2.7.2.3).
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt.
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:40:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anita Lewis wrote:
>
> I guess that depends on which window manager you have. I'm using RH 6.0
> with KDE. I go down to the bottom, clidk on the Big White K, and click on
> logout. That closes X. fvwm had something similar where I right clicked
> on the desktop and got a menu. Oh, just tried it with KDE and it gives a
> menu with the right click with logout on the bottom.
>
> Anita
>
> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:09:35 -0400, Raterus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >I'm running redhat 6.0 and noticed they inconveniently left out how to
> >shutdown X and go back to the command prompt. How do you do this and if
> >possible how can I add this to an option on my logoff window?
> >
> >Rat
Regardless of the wm, you can kill X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
With Gnome, click on the footprint and click logout
There's also a "Log out of Gnome" applet for the panel with a crescent
moon on it, to get it, right click on the panel and then select "Add
logout button".
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From: J Chamney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Search Path - how do I set?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:10:13 GMT
I am running Redhat 6.0 and am wondering the following about the search
path:
I have just written my first Perl script and have created a new
directory where I am storing my Perl programs.
What is the recommended method for specifying a search path - I would
like all users to have access to this new directory as I am writing
utilities that the users need to run. This is a permanent change to the
search path, but I am sure there is a "right" way and a "wrong" way to
implement this.
Thanks
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: LILO and WIN98
Date: 17 Sep 1999 06:32:45 GMT
In article <7rqhhr$640$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello dudes,
>
> a friend of mine has linux 2.2.12, latest debian (unstable), but after
>installing win98 , the LILO prompt disapeared.
That's expected. Microsoft writes an MBR of its own.
> OK, we've tried fdisk /MBR,
You're just writing more of the same Microsoft MBR with that.
>with win98 fdisk program, and after run lilo again but NO LUCK.
In that case your /etc/lilo.conf is wrong or misplaced.
> Have you any ideas? Thank you,
Make a bzImage file. Copy it to /dev/fd0u1440 (floppy a:)
with dd or cp or cat. Verify it boots.
Make an ext2 file system on a floppy.
Write a lilo.conf on the ext2, and copy boot.b and chain.b
there from /boot. Copy /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
there as bz2.2.12 or whatever. Run lilo while the
floppy is mounted
/sbin/lilo -C /mnt/lilo.conf
assuming the ext2 was mounted on /mnt.
Don't run lilo until you know what the lilo.conf says to do
and that it's right for your setup.
When the floppy works right, do it again with a partition
that ends below cylinder 1023.
Cameron
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