Linux-Misc Digest #934, Volume #20 Mon, 5 Jul 99 19:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: AOL Instant Messanger for UNIX ("TwoSheds")
Re: Having trouble compiling ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Mark Klebanoff)
Re: Killer Server Program for Linux (Bernd Eckenfels)
Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Irv Spalten)
Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question (Bruno Barberi Gnecco)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Irv Spalten)
Please consider this... ("Christopher R. Carlen")
Copy and paste in X (Warren Bell)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Irv Spalten)
Re: thinkpad 770x modem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: windows95 and lilo (duncan corps)
Re: e-mail program and resolution in X (duncan corps)
Re: trouble rebuilding SRPMS (Tim Moss)
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From: "TwoSheds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messanger for UNIX
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:18:33 +0100
I use the TCL version.
Go to
http://www.aol.com/imreg_template?template=aim_create&pageset=aol&promo=7301
0
and click 'Get Latest Version'.
-Kev
brian wrote in message <7lk3ln$46o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>is there an RPM of any aim linux client? i have tried like 3 kinds and
>have had install problems with them all. i run redhat6.0 and sometimes
>mandrake
>
>thanks a lot...
>brian
>
>
>Justin The Cynical wrote:
>>
>> On 10 Mar 1999 23:54:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ->In his obvious haste, eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
>> ->: Hi,
>> ->
>> ->: I was wondering if AOL Instant messanger for unix will work with
>> ->: Linux, more specific, Slackware 3.6?
>> ->
>> ->Is it available as source code, so it can be compiled for Linux?
>>
>> Yes and no. :-) The AIM client for Linux/*NIX is written in
>> TCL/TK 8.0, which means it's a script of sorts. The client is viewable
>with
>> less, as it is just a plain text file/script. What this means is that
>no, you
>> don't have to compile anything, and yes, the download is an executable.
>I am
>> using it here on my home box, and it works nicely.
>>
>> Interesting, no? :-)
>>
>> --
>> "NT disk, meet Mr. Microwave."
>> David Parsons in comp.os.linux.advocacy (e-mail addy deleted for spam
>reasons)
>>
>> Justin The Cynical - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Having trouble compiling
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:06:46 GMT
Since i still havent got any usefull tips/hints i repeat my earlier
posts. Please try to be constructive.
--V0D--
vod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> These dayz i spend more time *trying* to get things to
> work on Linux than actually doing anything productive.
> It seems almost 80% of time is spent trying to compile *tar_gz
> files and rpm'ing rpms that i download.
> And more than half the times they dont compile straight-away.
>
> ------
> eg: 1.
> I wanted to install ghostview on my machine .
> So i did "rpm -i gv*..rpm".
> I got error saying failed dependecy libXaw3d.so.6
> or whatever..not found
>
> So i checked rpm -qal|grep 'libXaw3d'
> and got /usr/lib.../libxaw3d..
> i suppoes that means i have the file on my system.
>
> Why is it then that i am getting 'failed dependecy libXaw3d.so.6'
error.
>
> ------
> eg: 2.
> I wanted to install cooledit (a texteditor/IDE).
> I downloaded all the required files.
> Unzipped and un-tarred the files
> Actually went thru the README and INSTALL files.
> Made sure i has all the required libraries gtk and glibc etc
> and the required versions.
>
> Then i did:
> ./configure ## no errors reported here
> make
>
> then all hell broke loose and it spat the following errors at me:
>
> gcc -O2 -s -Wall -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I/usr/X11R6/include
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o .libs/cooledit cooledit.o find.o editoptions.o
> mancmd.o
> options.o debug.o cooleditmenus.o shell.o mail.o complete.o manpage.o
> percentsubs.o _coolpython.o ../widget/.libs/libCw.so -lX11 -Wl,--rpath
> -Wl,/usr/local/lib
> cooledit.o: In function serone_handler':
> cooledit.o(.text+0x26): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o(.text+0x62): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o: In function uit_handler':
> cooledit.o(.text+0xe6): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o: In function et_next_hint_message':
> cooledit.o(.text+0x1fa): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o(.text+0x234): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o(.text+0x2a0): more undefined references to cgettext__'
> follow
> make[2]: *** [cooledit] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/local/cooledit-3.10.0/editor'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/local/cooledit-3.10.0'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
>
> Why is giving me the above mentioned error even though i have the
> required libraries.? And if the libraires were not there or not the
> required
> version why didnt "configure" mention those errors or inadequecy?
>
> ------
> these are just few of the un-successful attempts that i had to face.
>
> ------
> The common cause seems to be make utility or rpms not being able to
find
> the
> libraries even though they are there.
> What can be done to remedy this, what are the possible ways to tell
rpm
> package where to look for libraries.?
>
> ------
> Why is there so much inconsistency in the requirement of
> the libraries that are needed by programs to compile.
> Almost every program i download seems to require its own
> set of libraries and versions of the same.
>
> And i would request developers to post binaries, it would
> save such a lot of time for persons who want to do some
> work at Linux rather than spend dayz trying to figure how
> to configure and compile.
>
> ======
> Any tips or solutions or comments to my above mentioned problems would
> be
> very welcome and much appreciated.
>
> --regards--
> -V0D-
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Klebanoff)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:44:00 GMT
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi there
>
> in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
> was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
> compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
> cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
> WINBLOWS modems.
>
You don't. A cable modem is a special piece of hardware that knows no
operating system. It hooks to your computer via a standard Network
Interface Card so that your computer thinks it's connected to a LAN.
Also, pretty much every cable company includes a modem with the montly
subscription fee- you can't buy one even if you wanted to.
The only place the software matters is (1) having a driver for the
Network card. Pretty much any 10 Base T card will do, you can buy
your own- probably cheaper than the Cable Company will sell you,
assuming that the card they have does not include OS/2 drivers. (My
cable company sold a 3Com card with OS/2 drivers included, but not
supported by the Cable folks).
(2) having the appropriate bells and whistles to the TCP/IP that's
included in Warp 4 or 3 Connect. It almost always works, but some
companies use proprietary scripts that will only work in Mickey$oft
systems.
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From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Killer Server Program for Linux
Date: 5 Jul 1999 00:03:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Alvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Exchange alternative should be Open Source to make things extremely
> attractive.
There is a problem with this, since the protocols exchange use are not open
source. An imap server in conection with an ldap server would be a good
start. Outlok Express or Netscape Messanger can access it.
I think MS knows very well why the LDAP and IMAP Support in plain Outlook is
delayed for so long (do Outlook 2000 havbe it?)
Greetings
Bernd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question
Date: 5 Jul 1999 21:36:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jiim McIntyre wrote:
>I know Linux isn't affected by viruses, but I'm trying to find an
>explanation for this. I'm writing a tutorial page, and this is one of
>the questions I need to answer. If anybody can explain this in simple or
>can point me to an explanation on the web, it is greatly appreciated.
Viruses only propagate on systems that let them.
A system can let viruses propagate by executing programs which arrive
from the outside world, without first getting the user's or machine
operator's permission, that is, they *automatically* execute potentially
hostile programs.
The best example of this automatic execution is MS-DOS' and MacOS'
way of finding out how a floppy was formatted. The floppy disks in
common use today may be formatted several different ways, and the
OS has to find out which way any particular floppy was formatted
before they can read the directory on the floppy. They do it by
executing a tiny program found on the very first sector of the floppy!
They do this because of a design decision, that determining the format
automatically and invisibly was more important than keeping the
system secure. A virus can then infect the format setting code on the
floppy, and it will jump onto any computer whose OS has this design
defect.
Basically the same thing happens with Word Macro viruses. They execute
automatically because the system was designed for convenience at the
expense of security.
The other way viruses propagate is by actually inserting themselves
into useful programs. That's easy on a system (MS-DOS and MacOS)
where anyone can modify anything. It's a lot harder on a system
that protects users' files from writing by other users, and most programs
aren't installed by the same user (or user account) that runs them.
Linux doesn't get viruses because it doesn't automatically execute
of potentially hostile foreign code, and because it doesn't let users
hurt one anothers' files.
Another way to put this: MS-DOS is like a little baby. It puts things
in its mouth to find out if they're poisonous. Unix (including Linux)
is older and knows better. It waits for Mom to tell it what's safe
to eat.
Cameron
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From: Irv Spalten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:17:45 GMT
Mark, it isn't the nic that is sometimes the problem. Here
in Austin, Time Warner's Road Runner Cable Modem service
REQUIRES you to login before you can get anything. This
requirement comes and goes at random but when the login
server is active, you can only PING and not much else.
Irv Spalten
Mark Klebanoff wrote:
>
> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > hi there
> >
> > in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
> > was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
> > compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
> > cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
> > WINBLOWS modems.
> >
>
> You don't. A cable modem is a special piece of hardware that knows no
> operating system. It hooks to your computer via a standard Network
> Interface Card so that your computer thinks it's connected to a LAN.
> Also, pretty much every cable company includes a modem with the montly
> subscription fee- you can't buy one even if you wanted to.
>
> The only place the software matters is (1) having a driver for the
> Network card. Pretty much any 10 Base T card will do, you can buy
> your own- probably cheaper than the Cable Company will sell you,
> assuming that the card they have does not include OS/2 drivers. (My
> cable company sold a 3Com card with OS/2 drivers included, but not
> supported by the Cable folks).
> (2) having the appropriate bells and whistles to the TCP/IP that's
> included in Warp 4 or 3 Connect. It almost always works, but some
> companies use proprietary scripts that will only work in Mickey$oft
> systems.
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From: Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question
Date: 5 Jul 1999 13:54:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jiim McIntyre wrote:
> I know Linux isn't affected by viruses, but I'm trying to find an
> explanation for this. I'm writing a tutorial page, and this is one of
> the questions I need to answer. If anybody can explain this in simple or
> can point me to an explanation on the web, it is greatly appreciated.
There are several reasons. The two principal are:
* differently from dos/windows, linux is not an intel only machine; as virus
are usually written, and always distributed in machine code, they are not
portable, and therefore won't run in non x86 platforms.
* dos and windows allow the user to access any part of the computer. Anyone
with access to the computer can do anything. Linux doesn't allow that: even
if you're root, some parts of the computer are almost untouchable. A simple
example: video memory is open in DOS, partially blocked in windows and can
be hardly accessed in linux, even if you are root.
--
Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #1383173 [Running Linux]
Electric Engineering at Polytechnic School, USP
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/ :: Unlimited Simulator Homepage
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From: Irv Spalten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:14:19 GMT
OS/2 support for Road Runner can be found at
http://larkin.nuclearwinter.com/rros2/ExperimentalRROS2.html
Not sure if you can get to this URL without RR, but also try
http://www.austin.rr.com/rrchat/cool.htm, it lists all the
sites for all other non-MS OS's.
Irv Spalten
John Varela wrote:
>
> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:41:57, Micah McCurdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > some providers which use proopritary windows software to authenticate its users -
> > I know road-runner does this - make sure you ask. There is a fix, however, for
> > RoadRunner, but I don't know about any others.
>
> Where does one find the fix?
>
> --
> John Varela
> to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring
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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please consider this...
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:13:37 -0400
FYI,
At the following website, Intusoft requests people to comment on whether
Intusoft should develop a Linux version of their software (SPICE
electrical simulation software).
Lets get more scientific and engineering computer users into the Linux
world!
Check out:
<http://www.intusoft.com/>
--
_____________________________
Christopher R. Carlen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
My OS is Linux 2.0.29
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:30:49 -0700
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Copy and paste in X
I re-installed RH 5.2 and can't seem to get copy and paste to work with
my mouse. It was working before and I have it set up exactly the same.
In the setup I chose Microsoft comatible, emulate 3 buttons. In
XF86Setup I have Microsoft, emulate 3. It worked before by dragging to
select with the left mouse button and pasting with both buttons.
Is there somthing I'm missing? Do I need gpm running?
Thanks,
Warren Bell
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From: Irv Spalten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:22:33 GMT
The Road Runner Cable modem is a Motorola CyberSurfer Wave.
It needs a 10MB uplink port on a hub, or using a crossover
cable, it can go in a 10MB NIC. We not operate with a 100MB
NIC or hub port.
Irv Spalten
Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>
> Quoting a message by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> > in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
> >was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
> >compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
> >cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
> >WINBLOWS modems.
>
> Firstly, they're not technically "modems" - they're NIC (Network
> Interface Cards) that plug into a grey brick (which converts the
> incoming cable signal into one compatable with your computer NIC).
>
> The NIC we got with our cable modem was a D-Link PCI - which does have
> OS/2 drivers.
>
> If you want to buy your own, just go out and get a 100MBPS (although a
> 10 should do you) NIC with an RJ-45 connection.
>
> --
>
> = Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath)
> = Web: http://sprk.com/blackdeath ICQ UIN: 3484915
> = Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately
>
> ... EATING OUT.....Going to Burger King
> -!- GOPGP/2 v1.23
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: thinkpad 770x modem
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:52:45 GMT
I believe that all they got working was the (8-bit) SoundBlaster
emulation. The Thinkpad 770's have dedicated sound hardware; the MWave
is only used for the modem.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had read a while ago, that someone was able to get some of the MWave
> stuff (don't know about the modem) working, by booting into DOS, then
> loading the DOS drivers and then using LOADLIN to start Linux. I
> haven't done this, but it might be worth a try.
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From: duncan corps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: windows95 and lilo
Date: 5 Jul 1999 22:05:45 GMT
Reply-To: duncan corps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This was written by pico in uk.comp.os.linux...
|> How can I configure
|> Linux (LILO) to make it possible to switch between the 2 installations of
|> windows 95? Just adding both in /etc/lilo.conf doesn't work. I have to
|> change the active partition first before it is possible for LILO to boot
|> that partition. I hope I am clear.
This is a limitation that has been present in MS-DOS (it's not
lilo) for, um, ever. Unless Microsoft suddenly become competent or release
a Win9x that isn't window dressing for MS-DOS or something, I can't see it
being fixed.
IIRC you can have one active partition per hard drive. How about
getting a second hard drive, installing Win95 once on each hard drive,
marking their relevant partitions active, and configuring lilo
appropriately (in whatever order you feel comfortable)?
I hope I've explained this clearly; I only just thought it up, and
have only a strong hunch that it would work. You may have to spend a while
wrestling with Win95's setup programs... and watch out for your boot
sector!
|> Reactions please by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops.
Ah well, you undoubtedly read this newsgroup since you posted your
question here.
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From: duncan corps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: e-mail program and resolution in X
Date: 5 Jul 1999 22:21:31 GMT
Reply-To: duncan corps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This was written by pico in uk.comp.os.linux...
|> I am looking for a user friendly e-mail program. Something like kmail.
I use pine for EMail. Have done for years. I know it's not
everyone's cup of tea, but I've always found it easy, reliable, capable.
|> Then something about compiling. Is it possible to speed it up? I am using a
|> 486dx4-100, with 32mb of RAM and a 4mb S3 Virge DX videocard.
Compiling a program (or any other activity under linux) will go as
fast as possible. To get more resources for the compilation process you
could try running as few other programs as possible (no X), installing a
faster processor, or more memory.
|> I
|> changed the resolutionto 800x600, but then X refuses to start (I get an
|> error...). How is this possible? What to do?
I suspect you haven't got the right monitor details for X to work
with. If you're using Xconfigurator, try editing the file
"/usr/X11R6/share/Xconfigurator/MonitorsDB" and add your monitor's details
(as found in it's manual, or on the manufacturer's web site). The format
should be well documented in the file itself.
HTH.
|> Reactions please by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Damn, did it again. Sorry.
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From: Tim Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.rpm,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: trouble rebuilding SRPMS
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:21:49 PDT
Thanks. I got a couple working but one (gd-1.3) doesn't have a config.log
and another (postgres) I can't tell what's wrong. Would you be able to
tell if I post the log?
"Frederic L. W. Meunier" wrote:
> Can someone shed some light on these problems and what I can to about
> them?
> ,,,
> Look at the config.log
--
Tim
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