Linux-Misc Digest #934, Volume #23               Thu, 23 Mar 00 15:13:05 EST

Contents:
  JOE editor. ??? about Home/End keys (jgiles)
  missing sysrq AND incorrect kernel version in System.map (Svein Tjonndal)
  portmapper, mountd and nfsd won't start (Gary Krupa)
  Re: Browser based email - Specifics (Bob Hauck)
  RPM Database problem (Joseph Borg)
  Problem /w Ipchains firewall ("Andy")
  Re: routing (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] ("freddieV")
  Re: Unable to log in - no su root possible (Jurgen Defurne)
  Re: missing sysrq AND incorrect kernel version in System.map (Dances With Crows)
  Re: suse 6.3 + win2000 (Robin Becker)
  Re: QUESTION: time stampinig in user programs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: JOE editor. ??? about Home/End keys ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: missing sysrq AND incorrect kernel version in System.map (Svein Tjonndal)
  how to mount syquest sparq1.0 drive (Intekhaab)
  Re: Do you hate vi? (David Steuber)
  Re: Red Hat Linux 6.2 & XFree86 4.0? (David Steuber)

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From: jgiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JOE editor. ??? about Home/End keys
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:06:32 GMT

With Linux 6.0, joe uses the HOME, PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN
keys correctly, the END key just makes a tilda (~).
Why is this ?? I would like to use the END key to go
to the end of the line. I know ^a will work but it
bugs me that the HOME key works and not the END key.

ALSO.
I'm running joe v2.8 on Solaris 2.7. Unlike Linux 6.0,
the HOME, END, PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN do not work at all
with the same/default joerc key mappings. In Solaris,
joe doesn't appear to be using the joerc key mappings,
.kh, .kH, .kP and .kN. Why ? Does it have to do with
the termcap I'm using in Solaris ?? Ideas ??

jgiles
Still in the pickle jar.


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Before you buy.

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From: Svein Tjonndal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: missing sysrq AND incorrect kernel version in System.map
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:24:32 +0000

Greetings,

I've been playing around with the kernel on my Thinkpad 600E running
RH6.1. Just got the latest 2.2.x kernel (can't remember version number
offhand). Couple of problems when booting:

1. /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq not existant in /etc/tc.d/rc.sysinit

2. (multiple) Warning: /boot/System.map has incorrect kernel version

Everything *seems* to work allright, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Besides, I having a "clean" boot makes me feel a lot better.

Suggestions? Remedies?

Thanks,
-- 
 Svein Tjonndal
 Educational Consultant, Advanced Technical Program
 Business Objects University
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 telephone: (33) 1 41 25 37 18

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From: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: portmapper, mountd and nfsd won't start
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:23:03 -0800
Reply-To: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I recently upgraded my slackware kernel from v.2.0.34 to v.2.2.9.

With the previous kernel, there was no problem starting portmap, mountd and
nfsd during system boot. Now I see the following appear: 

Starting daemons: syslogd klogd portmap/etc/rc.d/rc.M:
/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap: cannot execute binary file
 inetd lpd mountdCannot register service: RPC: Unable to receive; errno =
Connection refused
 nfsdCannot register service: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection
refusedMar 23 07:46:20 soleil mountd[107]: unable to register (mountd, 1,
udp).
Mar 23 07:46:20 soleil nfsd[110]: unable to register (nfsd, 2, udp).

I can't run these programs from the command line either.

Can anyone please advise as to how to fix this? Do I need to install a
newer version of ypbind and then recompile the kernel? 


Gary Krupa



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Browser based email - Specifics
Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:25:31 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}slc{dot}codem{dot}com

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:52:54 GMT, John Arnott - PDbS, Inc.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>My goal is mobility.  Many people accomplish this goal with Yahoo mail and
>Hotmail.  I would like for my company email system to be accessible via a
>browser as well.

I've used Twig with good results:

<http://twig.screwdriver.net/>

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| Codem Systems, Inc.
 -| http://www.codem.com/

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From: Joseph Borg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM Database problem
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:30:18 GMT

Hi,
I've gotten myself into a mess in rpm and cannot get out of it...I need to
install this (rather large rpm) but whenever I try to do so, after about 20
mins the system crashes. I have previously managed to install this same rpm
without a problem using Kpackage. The problem I think is related to the
actual rpm database as under Kpackage there still seems to be an entry for
the rpm. However, whenever I try to click on it it tells me "Package...is
not installed". I've also tried using Xrpm and it gives the same problem.
Gnomerpm doesn't list the file in the database, however it still hangs if I
try to install it. I've also tried installing it in X but with no luck.
I've come to the conclusion that the problem seems to be that this
particular rpm file is listed as installed in the rpm database, however is
not acually installed on the system. I've tried to look up how to manually
remove something listed in the rpm database but there seems to be no way.
I've also re-installed rpm itself, still without any luck as it keeps the
same database present previously. If someone has any idea of how I could
remove these entries from the database, I'd really appreciate it!!! I've
obviously tried uninstalling the particular rpm from Kpackage but it tells
me package not installed, however it insists on listing it as installed!
Thanks for all your help.
Joseph Borg

--
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http://www.help.com/

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From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem /w Ipchains firewall
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:39:12 -0500

Im trying to learn the basic's of firewalls, but am having some problems.
Im trying to deny all packets that come through/into my box, except for port
80 (so I can web browse and keep a web server).  With this setup I have now,
All packets sent or recived are denyed.  What am I doing wrong that would
prevent port 80 from allowing connections?

ANYWHERE="0.0.0.0/0"
IPADDR="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"            #I use my correct IP address here
EXTERNAL_INTERFACE="eth0"
UNPRIVPORTS="1024:65535"

# Set the default policy of the filter to deny.
  ipchains -P input  DENY
  ipchains -P output REJECT
  ipchains -P forward REJECT

# allow www
  ipchains -A output -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \
           -s $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS \
           -d $ANYWHERE 80 -j ACCEPT

  ipchains -A input  -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp ! -y \
           -s $ANYWHERE 80 \
           -d $IPADDR $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: routing
Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:43:51 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}slc{dot}codem{dot}com

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:31:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How do I properly set up the box as a router to route
>packets back and forth the two domains ?

Enable IP forwarding.  Assuming that your cards are configured correcty
the box should route between them.

echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| Codem Systems, Inc.
 -| http://www.codem.com/

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From: "freddieV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:45:41 GMT

I would prefer an OS that I can use regularly, even if it does crash from
time to time, instead of an OS I regularly attempt to install but then
won't. And so far, no amount of support has answered any questions to my
install woes...and I hate Windows BTW.

Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8bd9l2$sln$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Nope.  You got it backwards.
> Windows sets up fine (usually) but then crashes a lot when you try to run
> it.
> Linux is (still) tough to set up properly, but once it is,  it NEVER
> crashes.
> Which would you prefer?  Personally, if everything I wanted to run had a
> Linux version, I doubt that I would EVER boot Windows again.
>
> Eric Peterson
>
> Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3ApC4.63209$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Funny, windows runs fine but linux takes 4 hours of setup to get a
printer
> > and a usb mouse working.
> > Become superior before claiming you are.
> >
> > ----
> > IBM: Iconoclastic Bilateral Monopoly
> >
> > "crashed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Just to clarify
> > > Windows 2000 has potentially 63000 bugs. This number was generated by
a
> > program
> > > auto-scanning the source code which also included 10000 lines of code
> that
> > was not
> > > used in the final release-
> > > I am by no means a Microsoft supporter but the distribution of FUD is
> > > counter-productive.
> > > Linux will eventually surpass Microsoft in the server market based on
> it's
> > own
> > > merits, not propoganda. The way it should be
> >
> >
>
>



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From: Jurgen Defurne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Unable to log in - no su root possible
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:06:21 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jurgen Defurne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Not bad. However, it isn't clear to me that you installed the full
> base.tgz tarball. You need that (and, I think, only that) in order
> to bootstrap yourself.

No, I didn't do that. What I did was just making a backup from /sbin, then
unload that, etc.. with all the rest I needed, like libraries (only those
that ldd showed me I needed).

> Check your /etc/passwd file, and check that it is mounted in the right
> place. You may have to reboot using your freshly installed root partition
> at some point. Until then, you may find that things are in /target/etc
> rather than /etc.

No, everything is in the right places. I use a LILO bootdisk, which says to
mount /dev/sda1 on /, read-only. After that I can execute checkroot.sh and
keymaps.sh.

> > Does anyone know what I am missing on this base system ? I have looked
> > into the documentation of login and getty, but they seem to miss the
> > information I need.
>
> > I run Debian 2.1,  with all the packages from the distribution.
>
> With ALL the packages? I was under the impression that you had
> only done a minimal install, and that you would fill in the gaps
> later over a network connection or a borrowed disk drive.

No, with this I meant in fact, that I use only Debian 2.1 packages, not
anything else. I know,
it isn't clear in the way I expressed it. I couldn't install all the
packages, because the harddrive is only 80 Mb, from which 12 are used as
swap-space.

Well, after I sent this message, I did discover the tarball mentioned above,
but I hesitated a little bit, because I need more 720k floppies. I have only
prepared ten. I will have to be a little patient, prepare some more floppies
and then indeed put the tarball on them, and unpack it on my target.

Thanks for your opinion
Jurgen Defurne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: missing sysrq AND incorrect kernel version in System.map
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:09:55 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:24:32 +0000, Svein Tjonndal 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
shouted forth into the ether:
>
>I've been playing around with the kernel on my Thinkpad 600E running
>RH6.1. Just got the latest 2.2.x kernel (can't remember version number
>offhand). Couple of problems when booting:
>
>1. /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq not existant in /etc/tc.d/rc.sysinit
>2. (multiple) Warning: /boot/System.map has incorrect kernel version

As for 1, for some reason, RH kernels have the Magic SysRq Key enabled by
default, and the init scripts check for this.  Read the docs in the file
at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt and think for yourself if you
really need the Magic here.  Hardly anyone does, unless their hardware's
completely flaky or they're debugging a kernel.

2 just means that you didn't copy the System.map to /boot.  Do a
cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map
and everything should be fine.  The System.map isn't actually used unless
the kernel crashes, when it aids debugging by giving out names of syscalls
instead of a straight hexdump.  You can safely ignore the error message.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suse 6.3 + win2000
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:15:53 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dances With
Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
...
>To get a dynamically assigned IP address, you probably should run dhclient
>(or something similar, like pump) at boot time.  You should be able to do
>this painlessly.
>1. Become root
>2. Run YaST
>3. "Network Configuration"
>4. look for "Should the network be configured through DHCP?"  Say YES.
>5. exit YaST.
>6. # /sbin/init.d/dhclient start
>(see, no need to reboot, unless you really really want to.  A few things
>may have changed; I'm using SuSE 6.1 not 6.3 and they may be using pump
>now instead of dhclient...)
>
>Connecting to a Lose2k machine, eh?  Check the Samba information in your
>SuSE manual if you're accessing shared directories on the Lose2k machine.
>SWAT (Samba Web-Based Admin Tool) might be your friend here.  Telnet and
>ftp to the Lose2k should work fine.  HTH, HAND.
>
I tried this today and it worked fine. Many thanks Dances with Crows :)
-- 
Robin Becker

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: QUESTION: time stampinig in user programs
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:43:58 -0500

>                I am programming scientific applications for which I
>need very sharp time stamping functions. First I used GETTIMEOFDAY which
>return time stamp information precise to the micro second. But the since
>our programs did not behave in time as we expected, we suspected that
>system execution time might have something to do with the time
>discrepancies of our program. Therefore, we wanted to use usertime time
>stamps only. Therefore, we switched to TIMES.

    The PC timers are nortoriously bad, I had used them for timing quite a
while ago and they can only report times of 1/256 or probably worse of a
second. (sorry I don't remember exactly what is was) However, you can do some
low level programming of the other system timers. Our local library had some
books on assembly programming for the PC (these are OLD books for the original
PC, I've found that the newer books are too simplistic). As for the assemby,
you can do it in C if you like since you'll just be writing to the timer's
port to turn it on or off and set the speed. But, I don't believe that they
can get the resolution of 1us (1Mhz).  The timers I'm talking about are the
ones that also drive the speaker, which are not very high performance.

                                                    Good Luck,
                                                        -John

PS I found where the PC timer was by reading the I/O ports and displaying them
to the screen and paging through them until I found ones that changed, a
little barbaric, but not hard.


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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: JOE editor. ??? about Home/End keys
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:21:10 GMT

jgiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With Linux 6.0, joe uses the HOME, PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN

joe uses its own termcap-style database and ignores terminfo.
(that's one of the things wrong with 'joe')

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: Svein Tjonndal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: missing sysrq AND incorrect kernel version in System.map
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:35:52 +0000

Dances With Crows wrote:
> As for 1, for some reason, RH kernels have the Magic SysRq Key enabled by
> default, and the init scripts check for this.  Read the docs in the file
> at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt and think for yourself if you
> really need the Magic here.  Hardly anyone does, unless their hardware's
> completely flaky or they're debugging a kernel.
> 

Thank for you help! Is it wise to edit rc.sysinit or should I recompile?
(Or maybe just leave things as they are?)

Thanks again,
-- 
 Svein Tjonndal
 Educational Consultant, Advanced Technical Program
 Business Objects University
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 telephone: (33) 1 41 25 37 18

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Intekhaab)
Subject: how to mount syquest sparq1.0 drive
Date: 23 Mar 2000 19:42:51 GMT

I have added one syquest sparq1.0 1 GB drive to the parallel port of my pc
running suse 6.3. How do I mount this drive?

Any help will be appreciated.

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Crossposted-To: comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:59:59 GMT

Steven Whatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' We all know what Emacs stands for: Esc+Meta+Alt+Ctrl+Shift. :) BTW, I am
' an avid XEmacs user.  I even have the XEmacs-NT installed at work (WinNT)
' and home (Win2k). 

I have modifiers-sticky turned on, but I am still tiring of the
excessive finger travel to do simple things.  I am working on learning 
VIM to see if that will make programming any easier.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

http://www.packetphone.org/

The verdict of a jury is the a priori opinion of that juror who smokes
the worst cigars.
                -- H. L. Mencken

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 6.2 & XFree86 4.0?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:59:59 GMT

Tom Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' Which version of gcc did you use? gcc-2.95.2 or a recent snapshot?

I pulled down the 2.95.2 release from the ftp.gnu.org website and
built that.  It is an interesting process to watch, and simple to do.

I went with the release rather than a snapshot because I intend to do
development work with it.

SuSE 6.4 will ship with the 2.95.2 apparantly.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

http://www.packetphone.org/

UNIX was half a billion (500000000) seconds old on
Tue Nov  5 00:53:20 1985 GMT (measuring since the time(2) epoch).
                -- Andy Tannenbaum

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