Linux-Misc Digest #934, Volume #26 Sat, 27 Jan 01 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Proliant 2500R + Red Hat 6.2 - RAID5 suddenly loses drives (jwk)
Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? (Robert Heller)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: How to use VNC? (Matt Haley)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jwk)
Crossposted-To:
alt.sys.pc-clone.compaq,alt.sys.pc-clone.compaq.servers,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Proliant 2500R + Red Hat 6.2 - RAID5 suddenly loses drives
Date: 27 Jan 2001 06:34:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:46:43 GMT, The Archimage
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OK, here's the scenario:
>
>I have a Compaq Proliant 2500R, dual PPro 200's, a gig of EDO ECC RAM,
>and an external Compaq F1 Raid array with 9 identical Seagate 9.1 gig
>SCSI drives. Several months ago (right when RH6.2 was released), I
>installed RH6.2 in GUI mode, set up a 24 meg partition mounted on /boot,
>and the rest of the array as /dev/md0, a RAID5 array, mounted on /.
>
>The server was at a remote site, and I have to admit I didn't watch the
>logs as closely as I should have. I ssh'd in on January 16th, and
>noticed in /var/log/messages that a "disk failure" had occured on one of
>the disks, and the array was continuing on 6 disks. I used
>raidhotremove to remove the drive from the stripe set, and then
>raidhotadd to add it back in and regenerate the stripe set. The server
>crashed, showing a second drive "failed." I lost all the data on the
>array.
>
First of all, please trim down the list of newsgroups. Note the F'Up.
Second, are there any log-messages that might indicate WHY some drives
failed?
Jurriaan
--
BOFH excuse #125:
we just switched to Sprint.
GNU/Linux 2.2.19pre7 SMP 2x1402 bogomips load av: 0.08 0.09 0.08
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: 27 Jan 2001 00:43:52 -0600
"Lloyd Llewellyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:50:32 GMT, wrote :
"L> > b) Work on your motivational skills to try to argue that it "should
"L> > be done," and argue so persuasively that someone will drop what they're
"L> > doing to do what you want;
"L>
"L> A lot of the traffic in this thread that dismisses the idea of a WYSIWYG web
"L> page design tool cite the poor quality of the code that these tools generate. I
"L> think it's inescapable that we will see progressively more code on the web that
"L> comes from these kinds of tools. Wouldn't it be best for all concerned if there
"L> were a graphical tool that produced correct code?
"L>
"L> If this is such an impossible technical challenge, perhaps the tool could
"L> implement only those features that do lend themselves to easy, correct
"L> generation?
"L>
This is like asking: is there a machine that can make some sort of
passable orange juice from apples? The *reason* that WYSIWYG web page
design tools create such bad HTML code (that often fails to be be
cross-browser) is due to the fact that HTML is *specificly* designed NOT
to be WYSIWYG. This is simply the nature of the beast. There is really
only two ways to get true 'WYSIWYG' on a web page: use a word-processor
and create a PDF file or use a graphics editor and create an *image*.
Everything else is subject to random interpretation by the viewer's
browser. The person viewing the web page can overwrite the ANY of the
HTML code's specifications (you can't make me use YOUR fonts -- I can
either disable the page's font specs (size and or face). You have no
clue or control over the size of my browser's windows. I can totally mess
up your design by using lynx and effective use a monochrome fixed with
font in an xterm or console window. In other words, What *YOU* see is
NOT what I see. If you assume I am using browser X on platform Y with a
window that is NxM and that I have fonts Q, R, S, and T loaded, I will
see what you see, but you cannot enforce that and HTML is *designed*
give me *something* in the case I am using a different set of browser
conditions (different browser, different platform, different fonts,
etc.). If your HTML code *assumes* the conditions you are using on
*your* system and then hard-wires things based on those assumptions and
then I view your page with a different set of conditions, my browser
will *try* to present what you specified, but given the nature of HTML
code (ALL of it merely *suggests* things and *every* tag is optional),
it is likely I will see some sort of mess. If you use proper HTML, you
WON'T be able to 'fine tune' things the way you are used to with a word
processor. You will have a non-WYSIWYG situation -- your editor
will show one thing and your browser will show something (*slightly* or
*vastly*) different. The question is: can you live with that?
When you write HTML (design web pages), you NEED to think in terms of
*general* layout, not specific placement: text block A needs to be in a
large-ish font in the upper two thirds of the page, not 28-point
Helvetica-Bold, 4" x 6" on a 6" x 9" window. What will happen is that
the 3" wide image will be 'off' window when I view this on my 4" x 8"
window and the text won't fit in the 4" x 6" because I have set my
browser to use 10% larger fonts (say I am going blind). This 'wrecks'
your visual design. I see 'a mess' that I cannot read properly. I
give up on your web site and never visit it again. You lose me as a
customer or visitor. I lose out on whatever your page is about.
The web is NOT a print medium. WYSIWYG was *originally* designed for
print medium: what you see on the screen is what you will see coming
out of your printer. WYSIWYG is really shortened from WYSOTSIWYWSCOOYP
-- Or WYSIWYG[OOYP] (OOYP : Out Of Your Printer). With the invention
of PostScript and PDF and the idea of sending Word Processing files via
the InterNet, the 'OOYP' gets dropped. The *problem* with Word
Processing files is that they need a *specific* piece of software to
view. PostScript is non-interactive and also needs a special
(expensive at the time HTML was invented) printer. PDF solves *some* of
the problems of PostScript, but has other issues. HTML was invented to
fit a particular 'nitch' and meant to provide a way to convey complex
information in a uniformally *comprehendable* fashion on a *wide* range
of viewing platforms, everything from Model 33 Teletypes through 24-bit
color displays. Due the viewing platform range, WYSIWYG is inherently
impossible, so HTML makes no attempt to be WYSIWYG.
The ONLY good WYSIWYG HTML editor I have *ever* encountered is
"Webworkshop for Kids". This program creates a JPEG file and an image
map for each page. Thus it is in fact WYSIWYG, but uses an effectively
'brute force' approach. It is basically a simple, kid oriented paint
program (graphics editor), with simple hyperlink support, which is in
fact something that 'works' for kids. How well this would for for a
more complex site ('grown up') is uncertain. "Webworkshop for Kids" is
real weak on text (not an issue for kids that are not interested in
'lots of boring words') and totally lacks any support for things like
forms, Java, or JavaScript or any multi-media (other than short
hyper-linked WAV files). Visit
http://home.earthlink.net/~schepps/Celeste/ for an example. Note: this
program generates 'correct' code. Question: is this what you want? I
know that it 'works' for my niece (9 years old). Would this work for
you?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:48:24 -0500
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
>
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
> >
> > Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
> > elses, any time.
>
> You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
>
> We just need better election equipment. Jeb Bush's primary goal right
> now is to upgrade all the counties in Florida, so he can wipe the egg
> off his face.
Most of the tamper-friendly voting systems are in Demoncrook-run counties.
Why is that?
> Even in remote states like Idaho, we're re-vamping the
> entire system before the next congressional election.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: How to use VNC?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:14:05 -0000
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:08:59 +1100,
Guy Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed VNC in my Linux and Windows partitions - easy! -
>but aren't sure how to RUN the damn thing. I gather you have to use
>telnet, but no information is given HOW to; eg, no EXAMPLES!
> How do I telnet from my Windows into Linux to start the vncserver
>there???
> tia...
If the remote machine is running Linux then,
$ telnet remotemachine
<< LOGIN >>
$ vncserver #might ask for a password if first run
Then using a viewer in Windows you can connect to remotemachine:1 and
display it there. Or, you can browse to http://remotemachine:5801 with
a Java capable web browser.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 02:14:50 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:10:20 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Harlan Grove wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> >> ...
> >> >Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
> >> >people written down somewhere?
> >> ...
> >>
> >> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> >> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> >> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> >> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> >> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> >> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
> >>
> >> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
> >
> >Personally, I think that EVERYONE in America should have to apply for
> >citizenship, just like immigrants.
> >
> >How many of the "government owes me a paycheck for my mere existance"
> >ignorami would be prevented from voting until they demonstrated an
> >understanding of our history and Constitution in a Citizenship application.
>
> What makes you think that such people even bother to vote?
Because the Demoncrooks have been repeatedly caught in the act of bribing
them with cigarettes; rounding them up off the streets and packing them
on buses, etc.
Why do you think "motor voter" was so important to the Demoncrooks?
Because they KNOW that most welfare parasites are too lazy to go down to
the voter registration window at the local city hall....but if you make
a law stating that their Welfare Case Worker has to give them a voter
registration, then it swells the Demoncrook voter rolls.
>
> [deletia]
>
> --
>
> >> Yes. And the mailer should never hand off directly to a program
> >> that allows the content to take control.
> >
> >Well most mailers can, so I guess they all suck too.
>
> Yup.
>
> Candy from strangers should be treated as such.
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 02:15:43 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Withers wrote:
> >G'day
> >
> >I've been following developments closely on this.
> >
> >It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> >to be registered....or it will cease to function.
> >
>
> Interesting.
>
> >This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> >door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> >how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> >and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
> >
> >In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> >both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> >it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
> >
> >But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> >have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> >be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
> >
> >It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> >one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> >desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> >systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
> >
> >Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> >(European politics - outside Britain).
> >
> >There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
> >
> >Steve
>
> Very true. Our government should have it's ass kicked for allowing
> Microsoft to become a monopoly in the first place.
True.
Well, fortunately, 30 different States' Attorneys are determined to
see that it is undone ASAP.
>
> Charlie
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 02:19:18 -0500
Cubic Meter wrote:
>
> Steve Withers wrote:
>
> > G'day
> >
> > I've been following developments closely on this.
> >
> > It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> > to be registered....or it will cease to function.
> >
> > This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> > door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> > how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> > and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
> >
> > In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> > both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> > it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
> >
> > But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> > have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> > be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
> >
> > It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> > one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> > desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> > systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
> >
> > Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> > (European politics - outside Britain).
> >
> > There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
> >
> > Steve
>
> Well, now, it isn't as deep as that. Microsoft dominates the desktop market
> because it was free to pursue that and push its product hard. I don't see
> anything wrong with that. MS has recently went over the line in some of its
Evidently, you are unaware that during the DOS days, Microsoft extorted
contracts which required that OEM's pay MS for an MS-DOS license even
when the customer chose to have (the superior and less-costly) DR-DOS
installed on their machine.
Microsoft recently settled with Caldera (who purchased Digital Research)
in exchange for Caldera agreeing to NEVER release the full evidence
against Microsoft, or even talk about it ever again.
If Microsoft was innocent of any wrongdoing in the late 1980's, then
why the gag-order in the settlement?
> tactics, but that may be subsiding. As someone else points out, there are
> no American OSs that are open source? America has never developed anything
> for the free software community? Bull. It doesn't have anything to do with
> politics as much as your post has made it out to be.
>
> Besides, about the registration thing, just wait awhile and someone will
> have a registration code cracker out. Take WinZip as an example. They give
> a free full version evaluation copy, which promts you for a reg code every
> time you start it. I went surfing on the web and found a simple little
> cracker prog that generates a fake reg code and viola. Now, I'm not
> condoning it, but what the hell. Someone will be out w/ an M$ cracker soon.
>
> m^3
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 02:25:44 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In article <94slbl$176$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
> > >In <94si7f$7nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >]In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >] Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >]...
> > >]>This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> > >]>door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple
> > PCs,
> > >]>how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay
> > up
> > >]>and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
> > >
> > >]Don't believe in copyright, do you? The license is pretty clear.Don't
> > >]blame Microsoft for enforcing their legal rights. If you don't like
> > it,
> > >]don't use it. If you oppose copyrights in general, work for changes in
> > >]the law.
> > >
> > >And what do you do when the lawmakers are corrupt? Much of the
> > >copyright policy is being dictated by large corporations with the
> > >money to spend on political activity.
> > >Copyright was originally to protect the maker for the purpose of
> > >encouraging the creation of products. There is not evidence that it
> ...<snip>...
> > I don't disagree as long as those practicing civil disobedience realize
> > that part of its effectiveness stems from accepting the _current_ legal
> > (as opposed to metaphysically just) consequences of such action. As
> > long as principled software pirates don't complain when they're caught
> > and fined, OK. Most, however, know they're breaking the license terms
> ...<snip>...
> > As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
> > corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
> ...<snip>...
> > The problem may be that software licenses and copyrights matter to 99%
> > of the readers of this newsgroup, who make up less than 0.0001% of the
> > world's population (with similar percentages for the US contingent).
> > Your average US citizen running Quicken and Math Blaster under Windows
> > 98 just doesn't give a damn.
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
>
> All good points by the posters. I'll just add a couple of points.
> I'll just add a couple of other points to consider. One, I think that
> in some cases companies like Microsoft want people to pirate their
> work just so they'll get used to it, then hit 'em for the upgrade. I
> know Bill Gates wrote a famous open letter against pirates of his
> software back in the very early days, but I suspect that in places
> like China, they want all those potential customers to pirate MS and
> get used to it rather than go for, say linux.
>
> Second, we've all heard stories about Stephen Foster and Edgar Allan
> Poe, and more recently black musicians, getting ripped off for their
> famous works. Copyright law was written to protect. It used to be
> good for 17 years I think with the possibility of extension. Now it's
> been increased so much that the pendulum has swung the other way.
> Mickey Mouse might have become public domain, or "Rhapsody In Blue".
> There were people who were laboriously typing old encyclopedias into
> machine readable form to become part of a public database who got
Sounds pretty inefficient when you consider that a 300 dpi scanner
and optical character recognition software can be obtained for US $150,
speeding up the process by about 100x.
> stopped by the current laws, mostly fueled by corporate greed.
The ONLY purpose of a corporation is to make money. If the Board of
Directors fails to pursue making money, they can be sued by stockholders.
>
> Ideally, the laws should be changed, but that would require a great
> public perception of injustice and exploitation, or a strong, focussed
> lobbying group (like the corporations have). Maybe it's a problem
> that isn't critical enough to up there on the queue with California's
> energy crisis or global warming so we just have to live with it.
> --
> Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: bash2 on Redhat6.2
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:15:17 GMT
Hi,
Redhat6.2 comes with two bash'es : /bin/bash and /bin/bash2
/bin/bash is the default. Should I install a recent bash-2 RPM that will
probably overwrite /bin/bash or will it disrupt the system?
Thanks
Wroot
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