Linux-Misc Digest #934, Volume #18 Sat, 6 Feb 99 22:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Newbie - Differences between... (Colin Smith)
Re: The Arachne Browser (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (Matthias Warkus)
SiS 530 Graphics Chip, no hair ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
/lib/modules/2.0.34/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy (Stef)
netscape and realplayer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Samba Question (Trey Wheeler)
Re: TRANS.TBL how? (Rod Smith)
256 colors? I know it's better than that. (Chad M. Townsend)
Re: How to make it run faster? ("Steve Cyr")
crc error and ran out of input data (Alan Fried)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Re: mouse and gpm (Ben Russo)
Linux Partition......HELP! (ImY2Kool)
Re: KDE kvt copy/paste question
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (Isaac To)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (steve mcadams)
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From: Colin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie - Differences between...
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:22:58 +0000
Al wrote:
> Hi.
>
> OK, so I installed SuSE.
>
> I have a question...
>
> With Linux (more specifically SuSE Linux) is there anything similar to
> the AIX function 'export EDITOR=vi' where the command line will respond
> to 'vi' commands looking at a .history file?
> --
> Mother's got a brand new leaning post, it's made of words and pages,
> It says 'God gives us our daily toast', but dad still earns the wages.
>
> Al
Should do. Though it's not specifically an AIX function. "man bash"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: The Arachne Browser
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:06:02 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 6 Feb 1999 04:51:46 GMT...
..and Peter Schaffter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[schnibble]
> Why isn't the Linux community more interested in getting something like
> this ported over?
My guess is Arachne makes heavy use of i386 real-mode assembly
language. Strictly unportable. Arachne makes heavy use of DOS batch
files, too.
And probably it does all the graphics with VESA BIOS calls, which
would have to be rewritten into GGI or svgalib calls, if not X.
Porting Arachne is a *major* effort. Remember how its memory
management works? It uses a kind of swap daemon to swap pages between
lower memory and XMS. It seems to have its own font system. It's half
an operating system, AFAICS.
mawa
--
Some people seem to have a kind of key to life. They've got an easy way
to decode it, or either to strip it clean of everything that doesn't go
with their model of it. Other people have got to face it in its
entirety, or at least what looks like its entirety. -- mawa
%
Warkus' Law of Unix Software Evolution:
1. Common sense will eventually win out.
2. We didn't say it will happen soon.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:23:57 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:47:42 +0100...
..and Toon Moene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Ross wrote:
>
> > How close are Irix and Solaris to Linux?
> > If I knew Linux would those OSes be familiar do you think?
>
> I use IRIX during day time - Linux at night.
>
> The most glaring differences are the output of and options to `ps' (not
> suprising) and the fact that I tend to install GNU make and RCS on IRIX
> boxen to get the quality in these utilities that we need :-)
You can make Linux ps behave posixly correct - by setting
POSIXLY_CORRECT (IIRC).
mawa
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It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR
actually lowers your social status...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SiS 530 Graphics Chip, no hair
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:22:23 GMT
I am using a PCChips M598 mainboard, with 32mb ram and the SiS 530 graphics
chip, and am having no luck configuring XWindows. I have read several
messages regarding SiS and they all seem to think that the 6326 will work,
but to no avail.
When I run SuperProbe, it tells me that the graphics chip on board is a 6306
and SIS incorporated says that is not a valid chip number. SIS has informed
me that the 530 is the actual graphics chip.
If anyone can help it sure would be greatly appreciated, I have lost enough
hair this past three weeks.
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From: Stef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /lib/modules/2.0.34/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
Date: 7 Feb 1999 01:21:55 +0100
When I say
modprobe /lib/modules/2.0.34/misc/lp.o
I get
/lib/modules/2.0.34/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
What could keep the parallel device busy? I have a ZIP, but the
corresponding module is not installed. My Kernel is 2.0.34
Stef
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: netscape and realplayer
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:56:46 GMT
I'm trying to install the real player plug-in for netscape. I've followed the
documentation verbatim, but it's still not working, so I came here for help.
I've gotten the stand alone to work fine, and it plays the welcome.rm
perfectly.
It even loads from the web, as I've been able to hear things fine from links.
The problem is the plug-in, or when things are embedded in the html. I'm
using netscape 4.5, and the newest realplayer (G2), RH 5.2, Kernel 2.0.36. In
following the directions, I copied the 2 files, RAObserver.class and
RAPlayer.class into the plugins directory, as well as creating a link to
librvplayer.so from my home directory. The only problem I forsee is that when
I installed netscape via RPM, it installed it in 3 different places, in my
home directory as .netscape/ , /usr/lib/netscape, and
/usr/local/lib/netscape. I didn't know which directory to copy the above file
to, so I have done it for all 3 (make a plugins directory, copy the files,
and link librvplayer.so). However, when I go into the preferences section,
under helper applications, the "handled by: plugins" isn't hilighted, as in
the docs. I tried going under help, and "about:plug-ins", and it lists no
plugins, and I receive this error: "libm.so.5: cannot open shared object
file: no such file or directorylibm.so.5: cannot open shared object file: no
such file or directorylibm.so.5: cannot open shared object file: no such file
or directory" (yes, it's repeated 3 times) however, I DO have that file, and
I put it in my path, and it still won't work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance...
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trey Wheeler)
Subject: Samba Question
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 02:06:06 GMT
I have Samba set up on my Linux box. I have given the box a NetBios
name and successfully assigned it to a workgroup. The machine is
networked via ethernet to my NT box. The network connection works
fine (I can ping either one from the other). I can "see" the Linux
box from the NT box, but I can not access it. I try to "explore" the
Linux box from the NT box, and it asks for a username and password
(note that my windows name & pw match the one I use on the Linux box).
I type in the name & pw anyway, and NT tells me that "The account is
not authorized to log in from this station". How do I fix this? I
have setup a share on a directory on the Linux box, but I don't know
what else to do (I'm quite new at this obviously, bear with me).
Also, is there some graphic way to browse my NT box from the Linux
box? Any specific advice you folks can send my way is appreciated. I
have read through (many times) the man pages, and gleaned some
information from them.
I appreciate email in addition to posts if you have time. TIA
Trey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: TRANS.TBL how?
Date: 7 Feb 1999 00:33:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <79e8nu$80e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
>
> I
> have ftp'd the entire Redhat 5.2 i386 distribution (making proper use of the
> company LAN after hours!) and have burned the results onto a CD. The Redhat
> installation proggie doesn't like the CD, "this doesn't look like a Redhat
> CD", it said.
See:
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/rhjol.html
--
Rod Smith
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From: Chad M. Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 256 colors? I know it's better than that.
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 02:09:15 GMT
I have this one Dell 266, intel, etc ... S3 Video Card and for some reason
it thinks it only supports 256 colors. Can someone help me who is fimilar
with this? How do I tell it that it's better than that. It's a man, not
a boy. Never had a problem before w/other computers. This one is a problem
child.
-chad
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Chief Technical Officer Your Local Community Online!
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From: "Steve Cyr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:14:06 -0800
Wildman, the Cuberstalker wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:06:44 -0800, RAZOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>Hey guys :-)
>>I have my second puter that is 486/66mhz ,16 mb ram with Redhat 5.1
>>installed. My swap partition is 65 mb, and I'm running AnotherLevel
>>X-Windows (w95 look). So X-Windows is running kinda slow. Even programs in
>
>Eeeagh! Do you realize that with a swap partition 4x the size of physical
>RAM Linux is swapping so that it can find the page of memory it needs to
>swap. In other words, more than 3x physical is inefficient.
>*Reduce* the size of your swap partition to 48, or even 32MB. Or add
another
>16MB of physical. Also, try a different window manager. I favor
WindowMaker.
>
Clearly the best way to solve this problem is more memory--NOT reducing the
size of the swap partition.
>--
>Wildman, the Cuberstalker
>Thank you, Microsoft, and please get out of the way.
>Fight spam - http://www.cauce.org/
>DO NOT SPAM THIS ADDRESS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Subject: crc error and ran out of input data
Date: 7 Feb 1999 02:27:01 GMT
I have just recompiled my kernel and this time I enabled:
set version information on all symbols for modules.
On reboot Linux began loading and then suddenly I got the
message:
crc error
--system halted
I have a rescue disk and was able to get back into linux
with a different kernel.
I again recompiled but this time without loading the above
device but again I got the same error message.
So I decided to load everything monolithically and this time
I got the error message:
ran out of input data
--system halted
Can anyone make heads or tails of this?
I am using red hat 5.1 with the 2.0.34 kernel
Thanx in advance
Alan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:30:50 GMT
>rpm -e netscape-communicator
>rpm -e netscape-common
>
>now try doing the same in windows 98 with IE4 (without re-installing and
>using win98lite :)
>
>> Martin.
The same with Windows 95 here.
Yeah, I've made an upgrade recently and I didn't want to pay for MS
products. I've got a PII350 instead of P200. Something went wrong with
a new mobo/old HDD combo and guys in a firm where I have a warranty
needed to reinstall my old W95. For some unknown reason they decided
to install IE4 :-( while I didn't ask. Ok, I uninstalled it. "Control
Panel"->"Add/remove"->IE REMOVE, YES. Bu-u-u-um.
After reboot I can type my password for Windows login and that's it.
My old wallpaper, unmovable mouse cursor and no reaction to a
keyboard. Had to reinstalled it completely - lost a few hours with all
this mess. That's how MS is taking care about their consumers :-|
Andrei
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse and gpm
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:28:15 -0500
Giuseppe Pittavini wrote:
> Hello;
> I have RedHat 5.2 and i have just upgraded the Kernel to 2.2.0. I have
> a mouse that uses /dev/cua1. When i exit X-Windows i get this message:
>
> (gpm) used obsolete /dev/cua1 update software to use /dev/ttyS1
>
> I have tried to link /dev/mouse to /dev/ttyS1 but X-windows failed to
> start reporting that it cannot find the mouse.
> I have upgraded gpm to the latest version 1.17 but I still have the
> message. I disabled the gpm and the message did not appear agian. I
> have mouse set to cua1 because that is the only module that it works on.
>
> any ideas why this mmessage keeps coming.
>
> what can i do with gpm
>
> Thanks in advance
Read your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and search for /etc/cua1
replace it with /dev/ttyS1
link /dev/mouse to /dev/ttyS1
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ImY2Kool)
Subject: Linux Partition......HELP!
Date: 7 Feb 1999 02:38:46 GMT
ok im prepaining to install redhat linux on the same box that I have windows 98
on. I need to Re-Partition for both windows and linux without losing any thing
that i alreay have. I have a 8 gig HD and at the moment im not sure how much is
in use (for some reason windows DriveSpace only shows me as have a 2 gig HD
and that 0% of it is in use I am trying to fix it) when I run FDisk that was
included in my linux distrubition it the only choice i have for second
partition is 977 cylinder. im not sure whare that puts me and if it will be
enuf to run windows in.
Thanx,
Y2Kool
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:45:32 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE kvt copy/paste question
You're right, it does work. I was having trouble pasting
URLs into Netscape. The solution is to middle-click in the
lower window where the page is displayed rather than in the
window where you type the URL.
Greg
> > How does one copy and paste text from a kvt terminal
> > window. I've tried to highlight text to mark it, then
> > switch to the new window and middle-click to copy the
> > marked text. However nothing is copied. Any suggestions
> > welcomed.
> That works on my system. (although I normaly use color-xterms)
>
> When you are using two xterms can you use this method?
>
> If not then you have a problem with the way X is trying to
> deal with your mouse.
>
> Try pressing the left+right buttons at the same time.
> If that works, then you have "Emulate3Buttons" option
> in your XF86Config file and you have "Emulate3Timeout"
> there too, comment those out.
>
> If you still have problems, write back to the news-group.
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From: Isaac To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: 07 Feb 1999 10:36:25 +0800
>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Colquhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul> I think you meant to say:
Paul> cp `find . -size +50k -name "*.jpg"` destination/directory
If one of these files get a space character for the filename, you get
real strange results.
To avoid this you have to use something like this:
find . -size +50k -name "*.jpg" -exec cp '{}' dest \;
or
(find . -print0 -size +50k -name "*.jpg"; echo dest) | xargs -0 cp
And I add a point for the command line interface. If used correctly,
you can come up with robust scripts (or macros, if you like that
terminology) with command line tools. Difficult if not impossible for
GUI.
Isaac.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:01:57 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:13:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hey, I'm new here, and the reason why is that, when I get a new computer, I
>do not want to use Windows 98 and it's obselete kernel. I was originally
>planning to use Windows 2000 and the NT kernel, but news out of ZDNet which
>said that Microsoft may use the Windows 9x kernel with Windows 2000
>infuriated me, and besides, who feels like waiting centuries for Win2000? So
>I'm strongly considering using Linux for my primary OS on my new system, and
>I have some questions.
Welcome home, john. The only version of MS-Windows ever made that was
worth a damn imho is NT4 SP3. Window 98 is total crap imho. I've
been playing with Linux since about Thanksgiving. Started out slow
with Red Hat 5.1 on my test system, then tried, Red Hat 5.2,
TurboLinux, Slackware, Debian, and SuSE. I haven't tried Caldera but
have the cdrom, likewise FreeBSD (which as I understand isn't Linux
anyway, but I don't know the details).
>1. What's the best distribution out there? Caldera or RedHat?
I like SuSE but I haven't tried Caldera yet. The REALLY IMPORTANT
thing to remember in choosing a Linux distribution is that UNDER THE
COVERS they're all the same. My recommendation is to choose the one
that installs easiest for your basic needs. Beyond that you're into
hand configuration on any of them. SuSE is the one I've found to be
easiest to install, with Red Hat and TurboLinux as the least friendly
install-wise for a windows-type.
Suggest you go to www.cheapbytes.com and buy several different
distributions to find out what suits. They're $1.99 per cdrom
generally.
>Advantages/disadvantages of each? (I know it's free, but I want a commercial
>one because I'm new, and they come with documentation and support)
The documentation all pretty much sucks, face it. But don't despair,
the Linux ng's are the most helpful I've yet to see on the internet.
> 2. Is Linux 100% 32 bit? The main reason why I don't like Windows 9x is because it
>contains 16 bit code, which is a waste of today's Pentium II and Pentium III
>processors.
I can't say for sure, I haven't looked at the source code. My
understanding is that it is. It is definitely doing pre-emptive
dispatching and excellent resource management, I can tell that much
just by running apps under it. It's in the same class as NT4 SP3 but
more efficient imho.
> 3. Does Linux support DVD drives?
My understanding is that there's a problem with DVD drives because of
the drive manufacturers' proprietary designs and parochial attitudes
with regard to technical specifications/documentation. But I'm not
speaking from experience, not having a DVD drive myself I haven't paid
much attention yet.
> 4. What graphics cards, nay
>scratch that, what hardware (graphics, sound cards, zip drives, modems, etc)
>is it compatible with, and do Linux drivers exist for said hardware?
Lots. More than enough. I had Linux on a 486-133 with a brand-X
graphics card, and it worked. I now have Linux on a PII-333 with a
Matrox Millennium II AGP and it works. There may be graphics adapters
that aren't supported in a default distribution, but they're probably
"loser" cards that don't have much popularity.
> 5. I've
>worked with IRIX and Solaris in the past. Is Linux anything like these?
Linux and unix are spelled differently. Some of the details of
programming are, I believe, a little different. Mostly though I think
they are interchangeable; at least nothing I remember having learned
about AIX is contradicted by Linux (though AIX may not count, and
Linux doesn't have smit).
> 6.
>Where are the best places to purchase/buy Linux software? 7. When Intel's 64
>bit processors are released, will Linux migrate to a completely 64 bit
>architecture?
Best place I've found is www.cheapbytes.com they read these ng's and
react to customer opinion, ie they are imho a Good Company. I have no
clue how they make enough money selling cdrom's for $1.99 a pop to
stay in business, but god bless 'em.
> For my primary OS (I'll be dual booting Linux and Windows on my
>machine, if nothing else for games, and that I paid for it) I want something
>that's powerful and fast, ease of use be damned.
Based on my experience to date (30 years as a developer, 5 years using
various Windows version, 2 months using Linux) it's more efficient
than Windows NT. It's (almost) totally alien to the Windows
mentality. It's no less usable imho; Windows constantly forces me to
swap between keyboard and mouse, has many virulent warts in the UI
area, and is binary-installable (def: either it's easy or you're
screwed).
...
>P.S. The best way to reply is to email me, because my job requires me to
>travel a lot, so I won't be able to check the newsgroup often. However, if
>you have something to say that everyone could use, then simply do a reply to
>group and email ;-)
Damn, you are in a fix if you can't check into the ng's often, this is
essential for learning Linux <g> -steve
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