Linux-Misc Digest #962, Volume #20                Thu, 8 Jul 99 06:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem (Villy Kruse)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: format >2GB hard (Joe Matise)
  Virtual partners ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  unable to open /dev/sda1 (Patrick)
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (Chris Raper)
  Re: Help with X: can a user detect mouse activity on a remote X console? (Stephen 
Baynes)
  Re: Is there a variant of telnetd which logs in users? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  Re: format >2GB hard ("James Young")
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Visual programming language for linux? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: grep (Martin A. Boegelund)
  Re: Kernel question (Chris Raper)
  Gnome session manager problem (Leonard Evens)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:30:48 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix John Imrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> : I allways thaught that WW2 was a world war in the same way that the World 
> : series base ball is only plaied in the US :)
> 
> That has far more to do with the fact that Baseball was invented in the
> USA than any sort of national egotism.

What does where it was invented have to do with anything? It's still 
incredibly silly to call a competition in one country a World Series. I 
really don't see what its invention has to do with anything...

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem
Date: 8 Jul 1999 10:02:28 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mario Klebsch  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse) writes:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>>>--> http://home.t-online.de/home/rolf.siebrecht/lilo1024.html
>>>
>>>This page is gone.  So is
>>>http://home.t-online.de/home/rolf.siebrecht/
>>>and 
>>>http://home.t-online.de/home/
>
>>Nice to know.  Sorry for not having checked. And I noticed the original
>>post was in February.
>
>I would doubt, the home pages of t-online are gone. They claim to be
>one of germany biggest providers. Perhaps the path to the home pages
>has changed.


It is gone allrigh.  Maybe Rolf is no longer using that server any more.
Also, there are no reference to any new location.

Villy


+ lynx -dump http://home.t-online.de/home/rolf.siebrecht/lilo1024.html

   [INLINE]
   Private Homepage
   ______________________________________________________________________
   
   Das Dokument konnte nicht gefunden werden.
   Bitte �berpr�fen Sie Ihre URL
     _________________________________________________________________
   
   Hinweis :
   Bei Dateinamen wird auf Gro�- und Kleinschreibung unterschieden
   ______________________________________________________________________
   
   We are sorry, but the private homepage server could not find the file
   you asked for.
   Please check the URL to ensure that the path is correct.
   ______________________________________________________________________
   
   404
   ______________________________________________________________________
   
   Weiter mit [1]Home 

References

   1. http://www.t-online.de/service/index/homsvx01.htm


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:26:27 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hmm.  So you're saying that without any participation by any country on
> one side of the world, it's still a _world_ war?  Nice, very nice.
> 
> Or, put another way, would you call a war that didn't involve _any_
> European countries a world war?  Uh huh.

I certainly would. It's quite possible to have a war of global effect 
which includes *most* continents without having Europe involved. I 
suspect it's unlikely, given political climates and affiliations, but I 
don't see why it shouldn't happen.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: Joe Matise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: format >2GB hard
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:33:14 GMT



Kamran Mohseni wrote:

> Hey guys;
>
> I have a HP pentium II 233MHz machine with 6GB hard disk. I Want to have
> both Windows and Linux on my machine.

That is not the brightest of ideas ...  I have tried this twice, and
severely damaged the FAT both times.  If you want to do this, either backup
frequently, or don't keep anything important on either system.

> So I partitioned the system with 2.6GB (created as FAT32) for windows and
> 3.6GB for Linux. I've installed linux RH6.0 without any problem. The
> problem is that I can only format 2GB of my windows partition (I used the
> boot disk from Windows98 to format c). It doesnot let me to format more
> than 2GB. I used  the command

>
> format c: /s
>
> Note that the size of the partitions are correct on fdisk. How can I
> format all of c:?
>

Ok ...   Most likely the problem is in the cluster size.  Different cluster
sizes are necessary for larger disks.  This is the smallest possible size of
data that can be written -- for example, a 4 kb cluster size means that a
one byte file will take up 4 kb on the disk.  The larger the cluster size,
the more disk space is wasted, but the larger the partition, too.  If I
remember properly, 4 kb in FAT32 is adequate for 2 gig, but if you want more
you have to go bigger, probably 8 kb for your needs.  I don't remember how
to change this in DOS, because I use Partition Commander to do this for me
(http://www.v-com.com).  I would recommend using one of the commercial
programs if you are going to do the whole linux/WIN9x thing, because one
little mistake and you are liable to destroy both systems ... the commercial
progs are not foolproff, but they are pretty good (At least Partition
Commander is).

A suggestion ... keep the partiton under 2 gig.  It is more efficient
spacewise to do that -- 8kb partitions waste huge amounts of space with most
anything, especially small text files and such, so unless you are dealing
exclusively with files that are several meg apiece, you will waste most or
all of your extra 0.6 gig.  Also, it is much safer to have several
partitions, so you don't lose everything if one of them gets damaged.


> send me an email at    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kamran.

HTH,
-Joe


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Virtual partners
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 07:59:26 GMT

Hello

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team.

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source projects
on www.e-quantum.com


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick)
Subject: unable to open /dev/sda1
Date: 8 Jul 1999 06:04:07 GMT

when i type               
fdisk /dev/sda1

it showed me:
unable to open /dev/sda1

why?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:55:40 GMT

On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:16:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:59:11 +0800, Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>amen to that, SCO and Unixware...aaaaaaaaaah!

Don't know what all the fuss is about - I've never had many problems
with SCO, especially Openserver 5.  :-)  

- it installs pretty well, recognising most hardware I have used
- up to date drivers are available for just about anything 
- installing new hardware & software seems easier that Linux
- reconfiguring the kernel is quick and doesn't involve a complete
recompile

Linux does have advantages though:
- the source is open
- it isn't under the control of a big corporation 
- it is free

I can understand that if you are a real techie and like to 'roll your
sleeves up' and get into the OS then there is no comparison. But if
you need to get an installation up and running quickly; and perhaps
support it remotely, via modem; and you don't mind paying - I would
rather have SCO.

Best wishes,
Chris R.

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.programmer
From: Stephen Baynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with X: can a user detect mouse activity on a remote X console?
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:55:36 GMT

Christos Siopis wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a question that seems to be related to X, but I have no
> programming experience in X myself, so any help from the gurus
> is appreciated :)
> 
> [Please forward any reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --thanks!]
> 
> Suppose that user A works on a (Linux, if that matters) console
> running X. I would like to know whether it is possible for (a
> different) user B (other than root!) who is remotely logged on
> to the same computer as user A, to test whether the mouse
> attached to the console is being used (by user A). I suspect
> what I am asking would be a security violation under X and hence
> not allowed? Is there any workaround?

It is possible for user A to grant accest to the display for user B. How
depends on which protection scheeme is being used.

See man pages for xhost and xauth.

-- 
Stephen Baynes    CEng  MBCS                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Philips Semiconductors Ltd                  
Southampton SO15 0DJ                        +44 (0)23 80316431 *** NEW ***
United Kingdom                              My views are my own.
Do you use ISO8859-1? Yes if you see � as copyright, � as division and � as 1/2.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Is there a variant of telnetd which logs in users?
Date: 8 Jul 1999 01:39:26 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Mahmood wrote:
>use rsh and a .rhosts file.

If you're exposed to the Internet, use ssh, it's better!  www.ssh.fi




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From: "James Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: format >2GB hard
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 05:55:08 +0100


Kamran Mohseni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> format c). It doesnot let me to format more than 2GB. I used  the
> command
>
> format c: /s
>
> Note that the size of the partitions are correct on fdisk. How can I
> format all of c:?

Are you sure you've made it a FAT32 partition?

Try using DOS chkdsk to find the cluster size of c: - I suspect it'll say,
amongst other things:

32,768 bytes in each allocation unit

On a 2GB partition, that means it's been formatted as FAT16, and thus only
2GB can be used.  As an additional check, Win98 fdisk should tell you the
partition type if you select Display Partition Information...

Hang about, was this drive formatted as FAT16 before you repartitioned it?
If so, then sometimes Win98 format will try to be too clever and keep it as
a FAT16 partition - it's happened to me before.  Try the (now sadly
undocumented) /u switch, which does an unconditional format without checking
the previous format.

Try:
format c: /u /s

and see what happens.

If you still can't get Win98 fdisk/format to play ball, and you have a Linux
boot disk (most distros will now boot straight off the CD too), then try
using Linux fdisk (or the somewhat friendlier menu-based cfdisk) to
partition the drive - it gives you a lot more control over what you're
doing.  If you're lucky, you might even have a recent version of mkdosfs
that can format FAT32.  Again, this gives you a bit more control over the
proceedings than Win98 format...

Marm




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:01:50 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As for the USA benefitting from WWII, have you even *read*
> history concerning the war and just how many US troops died? If I remember
> the population numbers of England correctly, it was more than your entire 
> country (not just your combat dead, but your whole country).

I was interested in this claim, so did a bit of research. According to a 
web page I found (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5268/casualty.html), 
the USA had 295,000 military casualties whereas the UK had 326,000 
military casualties and 62,000 civilian casualties. Of course, when you 
bear in mind the relative size of Great Britain and the US, it shows up 
even more starkly. Of course, this was due to being in the war earlier, 
but it is significant that 295,000 people form a much smaller proportion 
of the population of the US than 388,000 people do wrt the UK.

These all pale into comparison with the Soviet Union, China, and Germany, 
of course.

FWIW, the web page quotes its sources as Alan Bullock - Hitler and 
Stalin: Parallel Lives pp987 and The Times Atlas of the Second World War 
pp204,205.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Visual programming language for linux?
Date: 7 Jul 1999 21:04:02 -0500

Duncan Simpson wrote:
> 
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>(Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> 
> <stuff snipped>
> 
> >Is it a visual programming language like V?
> 
> >The subject line asks about visual programming languages.
> 
> I read a paper a while back that claimed that visual progrmaming
> languages where universally slower to use and either hid rather too
> much detial or quickly got messy, depending on the visual programming
> language in question. None of the visual languages produced programs
> that were any more reliable anyway. Unless you wish to push a CS point
> I guess they are not worth much anyway.
> 
> Proof methods and analysis in general for such languages is lacking at
> the moment, unless you translated them into non-visual versions
> first---so if your program fials badly due a race condition or
> something you are in there are no current formal, or even semi-formal,
> methods to help. (Generally formal methods are good at locating
> bugs--you try to prove something and the reason you fail is the bug).
> 

Try Visual Age for C++ from IBM. I use it quite a bit and I find
it quite stable. It provide me with a fast turn developpement.
LabView is usefull too but so bloated and slow that I prefer
Visual Age.

So far I haven't found anything usefull on Linux that I can use.
Of course there are some nice stuff but there are those notice
telling me that I have to release the source of my code.
When hell freezes over ...

-- 
use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
use Linux for safe and quick internet access
use Winblows to test the latest viruses
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.

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From: Martin A. Boegelund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 06:56:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Chris Aiken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shouln't this be posted in a Windbloz NG ????
>
> Try:  Start--> Find--> Files or Folders
> On "Name & Location" tab enter the disks of paths to search.
> On the "Advanced" tab enter string to look for.
>
> ...cwa

Thank's. I obvously haven't been looking hard enough...

>
> "Martin A. Boegelund" wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Does anyone here know a command/tool for Windows that does the same
> > thing as the UNIX command grep?
> >
> > --
> > ------------------
> > Mr Sparkle - Aka Martin A. Boegelund
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> The box said 'WIN95/98 or better.' so I installed LINUX!
>
> Definition of Windows 95:
> A 32 bit upgrade to 16 bit extensions for an 8 bit operating system
> designed to run on a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company that
> doesn't like 1 bit of competition.
>
>

--
==================
Mr Sparkle - Aka Martin A. Boegelund


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel question
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:55:30 GMT

On 8 Jul 1999 03:09:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tabman) wrote:

Hi

>This could explain the problem I'm having mounting a second MSDOS partition.

I'm not sure. Mounting devices is pretty failsafe as long as you have
enough mount points and the filesystem on the device is recognisable.
This means that a) it is of a valid, known type and b) it is 'clean' -
ie. either SCANDISK or 'fsck' doesn't need running. I don't know about
Linux but SCO has/had a maximum number of devices you can mount at any
one time - configurable in the kernel. 

>But I have another much more serious problem. I working in DOS, writting
>to my D: drive ( /dev/hda2 ). When I rebooted into Linux, /usr/bin was
>totally screwed up. Any ideas ?

Sorry - I'm pretty new to all this and I haven't had that problem -
yet! :-)  I've been running SCO UNIX machines for a number of years
and, again, haven't had a problem like you have described. I know the
'file' command works by using 'magic' numbers and headers in the files
it looks at - if it doesn't recognise the type I think it just
defaults 'data'. It would suggest that something has corrupted the
files in the /usr/bin directory by either overwriting them OR by
corrupting the inode table so that the location of the file is being
misrepresented to the OS. If the latter were true you would expect dud
files all over the disk though. 

I'd suggest starting a new thread with this one and see if anyone out
there has any ideas - sounds bad enough to ring bells with someone.

Good luck
Chris R.

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Gnome session manager problem
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:35:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am running RH6.0 on a laptop.  Almost always, if
I login after booting, it takes forever for the gnome
desktop to come up.   In addition, I cannot logout
and have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get out.  The
file .xsession-errors starts off as follows, so it is
clear there is some problem connecting to the session
manager.

gnome-smproxy: unable to connect to session manager

GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authentication
rejected.
While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authentication
rejected.
GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 authentication
rejected.

On subsequent logins I have no problems.   Also, I haven't seen this
problem on several other machines I have run RH 6.0 on, but some
others have reported this or similar problems.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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