Linux-Misc Digest #12, Volume #21 Mon, 12 Jul 99 11:13:08 EDT
Contents:
How to recover gnome ? (Jackie Yang)
How to remove gnome "reboot" options ? (Jackie Yang)
Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work (Rory)
Re: staroffice (Guenter Richter)
Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX (David Kastrup)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Chris Raper)
Re: Vmware and other users? How? (Phillip Deackes)
Re: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect) ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
bttvgrab 0.15.4 - compile trouble ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: sin + cos in C ("Oliver D. Bedford")
Re: iBCS in 2.2.10 (fredrik chabot)
Waitaminnit -- it's not supposed to do that! (Robert Grizzard)
Re: anyone using Matlab and Wine?? (geoff allsup)
the Kernal was hanged at Midnight! ("Cameron Gregg")
Configuring Postgresql DB on Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to add/remove startup program to gnome? (John H. Chauvin)
Ram optimization ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jackie Yang)
Subject: How to recover gnome ?
Date: 12 Jul 1999 09:56:20 GMT
After my gnome+enlightenment broken one time, Any user can't execute gnome
+ enlightenment any more. It seems to system configuration fault.
The X error messages is :
Gdk-Message: Got event for unknown window: 0
xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
xscreensaver disabling server builtin screensaver.
xscreensaver: you can re-enable it with "xset s on".
rm: cannot remove `/home/wzyang/.gnome//gmc-a0uy1b': No such file or directory
subshell.c: couldn't get terminal settings: Inappropriate ioctl for device
rm: cannot remove `/home/wzyang/.enlightenment/...e_session-XXXXXX*.clients.*':
No such file or directory
Gdk-ERROR **: an x io error occurred
aborting...
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 5201, errno = 0
Gdk-ERROR **: an x io error occurred
aborting...
It seems to x window manager can't be started. How can I start enlightenment
or other window manager with gnome ? Thanks. Best regards.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jackie Yang)
Subject: How to remove gnome "reboot" options ?
Date: 12 Jul 1999 09:56:41 GMT
After starting gdm, the console has some options
e.g options -> system -> reboot & halt !
Any body can reboot or halt my Linux in front of console.
How can I remove the reboot & halt options from login console ?
And, How can I modify gnome main menu to remove the logout options
reboot, halt ? Thanks. Best regard.
It seems to show no window manager started. How can I reload enlightenmet or
other X window manager ? please help me. Thanks. Best regard.
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From: Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:59:36 -0500
I got it working!
under ALSA,under 2.0.37 kernel
I bought the card cheap from Buy.com 25 bux total
It has a 1373 chipset on the physical board , but ID's in linux as a 1371
Thanks to all that posted.
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From: Guenter Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:06:38 +0200
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
one possible way: install it, start it, and you will get a reminder
box to register; fill in everything, print it and snail-mail it...
<p>FTO wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>How do you register for staroffice 5.0 in order to
get a key for the setup.
<br>I went to there site www.stardivision.com but could not find anywhere
to
<br>register for this product. There was only a download for 5.1.
<p>Maybe somebody can point me in the right direction.
<p>Thank you</blockquote>
</html>
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: 12 Jul 1999 10:39:33 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany) writes:
> In article <Cc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adrian Burd
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >>Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>> One should never update SuSE. One should always re-install SuSE
> >>> completely.
> >>
> >>
> >>Curious...why is that? I ran the updates from 5.* to 6.0 and 6.0 to 6.1
> >>and have not found any problems.
> >>
> >I upgraded from 5.2 to 6.0 - it deleted libc5.
> >
> >Bearing in mind libc5 wasn't even on the (single, not set of) CD, that
> >meant that EVERY non-SuSE executable on my system broke :-(
>
> That had to happen sooner or later. A short, painful transition period
> is a lot better than a long, painful one.
Well, with RedHat, I had a long, painless transition period with
regard to those particular kinds of problem.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:04:18 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:18:26 +0800, Peter Caffin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Peter
>I also reckon that being
>able to use low spec machines as easily as higher spec ones is also an
>important thing :).
True - if it runs fine on lower spec machine then it is going to fly
on the higher spec PCs.
>Chris Raper wrote
>>Though the way
>> SCO changed the user interface when they went from 3.2.4.2 -> OS5 is
>> _really_ annoying and totally un-intuitive (IMHO).
>I've mostly used SCO OS5, myself. Maybe I'm judging on the basis of the
>unintuitive version ;).
Well, I suppose none of the SCO front-ends have been very intuitive as
regards the keyboard keys they use to move between fields and bring up
menus - that's the bit I hate. The software is very good at loading /
managing software packages and installing / configuring new hardware.
Also, there are lots of good up to date SCO drivers out there -
whereas quite a few hardware suppliers I have tried are still not
fully supporting Linux.
>Ah, in my previous job, the software developers had all sorts of dramas
>getting technical specs from SCO as to whether such and such was broken
>in whatever release..
Mmm - I have never really got into interfacing heavily with the OS.
>I have a lot of respect for people who can manage their SCO boxes properly,
>actually.
Thanks - I'll include myself in that category ;-)
>The people at my former workplace, who should have been able to,
>given that they'd been working with them for years, were used to the idea
>of the SCO server crashing multiple times on a Friday, ping flooding the
>network with garbage, etc.
Yuk! Never had anything like that. We support about 30-40 SCO boxes
(both 3.2 & OS5) over modem links and have never had anything remotely
nasty happen with them (touch wood!). Any problems we have had have
been hardware failure related. The only current outstanding problem we
have is with a site where the server hangs about once every six
months. It has been suggested this is a fault on the SCSI line but I
just haven't had the chance to test this.
I'll stick with the Linux and keep plugging away at it. No doubt my
confidence and familiarity will grow over time :-)
Best wishes
Chris R.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Subject: Re: Vmware and other users? How?
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:28:37 GMT
In article <7mb1uk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Justin B Willoughby wrote:
>So if a users has the required license file they should be able to
>vmware /usr/local/vmware/nt4/nt4.cfg
>
>and power on!
Cheers, Justin, your help is much appreciated. I will try setting that
up right now!
--
Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Linux (Potato)
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 06:10:32 -0400
>Actually, Linux is quite different from Windoze. You've got to be very
>talented to screw up a Linux installation to the point of re-install.
>
Agreed.
>If you're having problems - try to RTFM. I've found more often than not
>that 5 minutes browsing man pages will answer my question faster than a
>newsgroup response.
>
I have been that route. I have "EVERY" linux book published for RedHat 5.2
onward and have the pages worn out from reading and thumbing though them.
Also, I found it to be the opposite for getting a solution to a problem. My
last problem was getting "kpackage" installed. I finally got it to work when
a newsgroup reader suggested that I subsribe to "linux.redhat.rpm" where the
latest rpm was posted that was a cure to my problem. Guess what? It worked.
After two days of dicking around reading books, man pages, and how to's, the
newsgroups won out.
>Linux may not be "user friendly" like Windoze, but atleast the OS doesn't
>tell me what I want to do.
>
No argument from me.
>If you want your computer to hold your hand, or to admit that you don't
>have the patience or the intelligence to take a few minutes to read and
>find out what you're doing, then it sounds like Windoze is the OS for you.
>
No, I don't want the computer to hold my hand, but, I want it to "Do what I
want it to do" after a "reasonable" amount of debugging. Since I have a
"life" and am not getting $50-$75 an hour to configure a linux box, I choose
to take the path of least resistance and ask for help when the documentation
fails me. As for patience and intelligence, I feel that I have a small
amount of each.
I don't want to start a Linux vs Windows thread, but, you have to admit that
Windows works... Now I like linux and am not going to dump it. I just am
frustrated with some of the petty install problems it has. And I have
learned a wealth of information correcting these problems, though time
consuming. My prefference would be to learn how to use linux and all it's
features instead of correcting problems that shouldn't be there in the first
place.
I want to thank all the wonderful people in the newsgroups that have helped
me out. There is no book or written documentation that can replace the
wealth of information that is given here. I can't thank you enough for
saving me countless hours to do something else like being with my family.
Ed
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bttvgrab 0.15.4 - compile trouble
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:39:18 +0200
Has anyone managed to compile bttvgrab lately? I'm in the mood for a
clue.
after some missing files from older glibc versions I finally got it
ALMOST to compile...till it screwed up on what seems like an internal
path error?
what happens with putvlc.o here...is it that it never makes it to /tmn
(cause it sure doesn't) or is it because it was supposed to be found
there? (there IS such a file in /libgrab after make fails, size 29688)
ar: tmn/putvlc.o: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [libgrab.a] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/stuff/bttvgrab-0.15.4/libgrab'
make: *** [libgrab.a] Error 2
There's a hanbful other not so good looking errors before this too, but
nothing too fatal.
K.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions?
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:37:06 GMT
> >Where did you see this announcement? Man, I loved my Amiga - used an
Amiga for
> >over 7 years. If they put Linux on it, I'd go back to an Amiga in a
heartbeat.
>
> There are mixed reports; dunno which of these two are the "most
> authoritative."
>
> <http://www.qnx.com/amiga/> Delivering on Our Promise to the Amiga
> Community
>
> <http://www.amiga.com/diary/executive/linux-e.html> Amiga Executive
> Update - Amiga to use Linux
> --
I Guess the AMIGA press release is the most authoritative on the plans
of AMIGA ;)
Apparently Amiga switched from QNX to LINUX at the recommendation of The
Linus Tordsvald (hopefully I spelt his surname correctly).
QNX are going to release their version of the new Amiga OS anyway
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sin + cos in C
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:02:08 +0200
You have to link with the math library.
gcc foo.c -o foo -lm
^^^
Oliver
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From: fredrik chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: iBCS in 2.2.10
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:29:06 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
capai wrote:
> in 2.2.10 kernel. i am trying to install iBCS-2.1-981105 so i ftp(ed) its
> sources from ftp.cdrom.com...
Ok I had similar problems, I've compiled the iBCS from the redhat kernel
source witch at least ran.
But i've had al kinds of problems afterwards i.e. kernel panic's,
unexplained stops et al. no problems after dumping iBCS (and replacing the
sco app)
--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Fredrik Chabot
http://www.f6.nl/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Grizzard)
Subject: Waitaminnit -- it's not supposed to do that!
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:34:07 GMT
The Linux side of this 486DX4-100 had me mumbling the subject of this post
yesterday afternoon, and I was wondering if any of the Linux gurus in the
group could shed some light on a possible explaination.
The distro is SlackWare 3.6 with the kernel patched to 2.0.36. Linux owns hda
which is a 6.4GB Western Digital Caviar. 512 kB Oak OTI-067 video card, SIIG
ISA multi-I/O card, 64 MB of RAM and 128 kB of cache.
Okay; I was reading some HOWTOs trying to get smarter on the system, and tried
to switch to a different virtual terminal to look at something else. It
looked like there weren't any available -- which I knew to be wrong. I
figured I might like to look at inittab, so once I left less I typed "less
/etc/inittab", but what the kernel saw was "LESS ?ETC?INITTAB" and of course
it protested that there was no "LESS" command. Okay -- shift lock and retype,
right? What I got out of it this time was, "less ?etc?inittab" and of course
it squalled again. Retype with the appropriate use of the shift key -- same
result.
It finally sinks in that this box is ailing, so I figure it's time to shut
down and take a looksee. That's "shutdown -h now", right? What came out was
"shutdown _h now" and that wouldn't do at all. After the application of some
suitable incantations indicative of an increasing frustration level, I told
the computer to "halt" and it did.
So that's one problem. Like the old TV commercials used to say, "But wait --
there's *more*!"
I dug out the boot and root disks for the distribution and brought the system
up in a mode where I could work with it. I mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt and
looked for some things; i.e., new commands in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin and
/usr/sbin and new configuration files in /etc/*. Nada, yok, opseyo or however
you want to say, "It ain't there". I did notice a peculiarity that commanded
considerable attention, though; several files bore a timestamp of July 11,
1999 -- and others bore a timestamp of July 11 hh:mm like they should. The
ones with the correct time stamp were the ones that had been created or
modified in the morning, while those with the 1999 stamp were the ones I had
been working with when the computer developed the pip.
I figured I should go back to the installed system and look at it, so I shut
down the root disk (with "shutdown -h now") and brought the computer up on
/dev/hda. It's working disgustingly normal now; shift keys shift correctly
and timestamps are stamped with the correct time
So -- any ideas what this computer was up to when it startled me yesterday?
Any SWAGs? Any WAGs?
--
Inclusion of my E-mail address in a Usenet post does not constitute a
solicitation to receive {bulk,junk,commercial} E-mail.
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From: geoff allsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone using Matlab and Wine??
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:53:19 -0400
there is a Linux version of matlab - why don't you just use that?? Much
easier!
geoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution)
Ronald Haynes wrote:
> Hi, I am attempting to use Matlab under Wine.
> I was browsing the web site of someone who has achieved
> this recently, I got the link from the winehq site
> which appears to be down. Does anyone have a
> link to this site, or does anyone know how to
> get around the license manager problem?
>
> Thanks,
> R Haynes
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From: "Cameron Gregg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: the Kernal was hanged at Midnight!
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:07:18 +1000
I just bulit a new kernal (Redhat 6). It compiled fine without errors. My
process was (instructions from a book) as follows:
make mrproper
make xconfig (chose relevent settings)
make dep
make clean
make bzImage (too big for zImage)
make modules
make modules_install
copied bzImage to /boot
added a new lilo entry
typed lilo
rebooted
here is the problem: at startup the system hangs on the line
finding module dependencies
Have I missed a step or forgotten to compile something in? I enabled the
autoloading options for modules...
Any ideas?
Thanks
Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuring Postgresql DB on Linux?
Date: 12 JUL 1999 14:01:16 GMT
I've untarred the postgresql .tar.gz file, but I can't configure it.
WHen I run the ./configure, it tells me:
"Error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot
create executables."
What does this mean?
I tried selecting the template by doing: ./config --with-template=(a few
different templates). It didn't accept any of them, and told me the
same thing.
I ran the ./config.guess, and it told me:
i586-pc-linux-gnu
What do I do?
mail me,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Raquel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John H. Chauvin)
Subject: How to add/remove startup program to gnome?
Date: 12 Jul 1999 14:16:49 GMT
How do I control which programs gnome automatically starts up?
Everytime I login, gnome starts the help system and the file
viewer. I would like to turn these process off. I tried editing
the session file located in the .gnome directory but the file
is overwritten during the logout/login process.
Thanks,
John Chauvin
--
John H. Chauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ram optimization
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:37:05 +0200
I seek ways of saving ram under linux (any method or trick would be
appreciated).
I have a machine I use as a server for test purposes. But it has only
32mb of ram, which is not enough to run apache and oracle8 at a normal
speed.
thanks.
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