Linux-Misc Digest #12, Volume #26 Thu, 12 Oct 00 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: problems patching kernel (-ljl-)
Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Dave)
Re: MP3 decoder-encoder (Paul Martin)
Re: Financial software ~ Quickbooks Pro ~ Linux? (-ljl-)
Re: Lilo not found in MBR Dell Poweredge RAID (Eric)
Re: Xemacs on Corel (Debian) Linux (Chetan Vora)
Re: enlightenment crashes with new X server (Toby Haynes)
Re: defrag (John Molitor)
Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Lilo not found in MBR Dell Poweredge RAID (Rob Carlson)
Corel(Debian) Linux and glibc upgrade (Chetan Vora)
DNS/DHCP & IP management (ericga)
Re: url for gtksee? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Using the dos version of dd... (Little Paul)
Re: Linux from scratch.... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Serial Port MP3 Player ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mysql problem (Dances With Crows)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Dustin Puryear)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Re: Why doesn't rm -R *.obj work? (Brian V. Smith)
Re: What is System.map ? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Linux from scratch.... (Martin Herrman)
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems patching kernel
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:00:21 GMT
In article <8s4dhg$ba3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to install Hedrick's IDE patch over the source of my 2.2.16
> kernel (from a fresh RedHat 7.0 install). I'm trying to get the
HPT370
> controller on my motherboard (Abit KA7) to work.
>
> I installed the source rpm off of the cd. It installed correctly
> under /usr/src/linux. I put the patch in the /usr/src/linux
directory,
> bunzip2'd it and ran:
> patch -p1 --dry-run < ide.2.2.16.patch
>
> A bunch of hunks succeed, then it stops because it can't find files
> under arch/mips/. The source tree on my machine has only an arch/i386
> branch, nothing else. The patch program stops at this point, asking
me
> what file it should patch.
>
> What should I do at this point? Is there some way I can tell it to
> ignore non i386 files?
Would patch's "--force" option do what you want. After you're done
look for *.rej files to see if anything important failed. If things
go totally wrong just reinstall the source, no disaster. If the
compile succeeds make a conventional boot diskette and try it. That
way you will still be able to boot your system just like before the
experiment.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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Before you buy.
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 09:14:25 -0500
I can't get Netscape6 to install. Downloaded the install but when I
try to unzip it I get an error from tar. I've cut and pasted the gzip
-dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
Anyone else tried this?
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Martin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MP3 decoder-encoder
Date: 12 Oct 2000 14:16:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sebastian Niehaus wrote:
>GRIP is a nice GUI for bladeenc and cdparanoia
According to various people, lame is faster and more accurate than
bladeenc (and I have used bladeenc extensively).
--
Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Financial software ~ Quickbooks Pro ~ Linux?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:32:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brett Randall wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I am looking to totally replace Windows with Linux. I have been
> > working with, administrating, programming and hacking up linux for
> > around 4 years now, but not once have I found a reasonable financial
> > accounting package for small-to-medium businesses.
> >
> > I currently use QuickBooks Pro 6.0 for Windows, and I want most of
the
> > same functionality in a Linux package. I don't mind paying for it,
it
> > just needs to be proven to work well. I don't want to use WINE
> > emulation at this stage.
>
> While I use Quicken 99 on my old machine when it is running W95 (and I
> run W95 on it only to run Quicken and TurboTax), I think those
programs
> are pretty crummy. Furthermore, Intuit's support is as bad as
> Microsoft's.
>
> Whenever I check the WINE site, they never seem to state that current
> versions of Quicken run, and the last time I looked, they never said
that
> TurboTax runs. I do not see how they can ever get TurboTax to run
because
> there is no time for them to test it between when it comes out,
typically
> in late December for the federal taxes, and mid to late January for
the
> state taxes, and when you need to file your taxes.
>
> Unfortunately, I have found no satisfactory substitute. GnuCash has
been
> recommended, but it seems to still be in the Alpha Development Stage,
> with changes daily. I have been unsuccessful in importing my Quicken
data
> into it. It imports pieces of it, but makes a mess of the whole thing.
Have you considered using VMware:
http://www.vmware.com
or Win4Lin
http://www.netraverse.com
both are commercial products; but reasonably priced.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lilo not found in MBR Dell Poweredge RAID
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:47:52 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob Carlson wrote:
>
> This is a tough one. Sorry for the length. It is necessary.
>
> I have a Dell Poweredge 4400 w 6 36bb drives configured RAID 5
> (actually two identical machines). The machine originally had RedHat
> 6.2 preloaded on it. When I received the machines, the partitions were
> out of whack, so I decided to reinstall. I remade the container and
> scrubbed the disks and proceeded with the install. Note that this is
> hardware RAID, so there should be no issues with raidtab, etc.
>
> Once I acquired the proper controller (Dell Percraid) I was able to do
> an expert install, fdisk, and load everything. The only trouble came
> when the machine rebooted. Instead of going into LILO, I received the
> Hit F1 to retry boot or F2 to enter setup message. At this point I can
> boot with the boot floppy I created, and can traverse the entire
> filesystem, run commands, etc. this leads me to believe the problem
> lies entriely with MBR. Here are some of the things I have tried:
>
> In bios/Raid configuration I created a non-RAID volume during one
> attempt, on which to place /boot. This didn't work, and Dell and Red
> Hat both told me I should be able to use the entire RAID array.
Still I suspect this to be the problem. I've seen these same messages
far to often on my DELL machine. They tend to occur here when I put an
extra drive on the IDE controller but haven't jumpered it correctly. On
a known good system this will make it unbootable (ofcourse :-) ). It has
nothing to do with lilo, which is probably perfectly written in the MBR,
and everything with your hardware configuration. The BIOS cannot find
the HDD/RAID array for some reason. Which reason it is, I cannot tell
you, I don't have any expierience with RAID arrays, but i suggest you
either check jumpers/connections or fix the BIOS settings if they are
wrong for whatever reason.
Eric
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From: Chetan Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.emacs,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Xemacs on Corel (Debian) Linux
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:42:27 -0400
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Thanks for all the replies. I went with what many of you said and did an
amazingly painless compile from the 21.1.12 source. Unfortunately, not all
things work (most notably, I couldn't get cc-mode to work properly yet) but
I have the most basic functionality. I have a somewhat stupid question -
what is the difference between installing a lisp package in the default
place (/usr/local/lib/xemacs*/xemacs-packages) versus installing it anywhere
and using (setq load-path (cons "/dir/of/cc-mode/" load-path)) in the .emacs
file. For eg, can I install the lisp package in /mydir/cc-mode* and use the
above in .emacs ?
Chetan
Stephen Chadfield wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:51:33 -0400, Chetan Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm sorry if this has been answered before but my search provided no
> >such query before. Basically, I installed XEmacs21.1 binaries for Linux
> >(RPMs which I converted to .deb and then used Corel Update to install
> >them). It complained it needs libdb.so.3 which for some reason is not
> >there. So I went and downloaded glibc21 RPM after doing a search on the
> >web. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to convert that RPM to .deb. Could
> >someone tell me where I can find a "glibc21 version" for Debian Linux ?
> >Or am I doing something wrong when doing the RPM->DEB conversion ?
>
> I have always found XEmacs to be an easy compile for Linux/Unix and
> always compile from source.
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<html>
Thanks for all the replies. I went with what many of you said and did an
amazingly painless compile from the 21.1.12 source. Unfortunately, not
all things work (most notably, I couldn't get cc-mode to work properly
yet) but I have the most basic functionality. I have a somewhat stupid
question - what is the difference between installing a lisp package in
the default place (/usr/local/lib/xemacs*/xemacs-packages) versus installing
it anywhere and using (setq load-path (cons "/dir/of/cc-mode/" load-path))
in the .emacs file. For eg, can I install the lisp package in /mydir/cc-mode*
and use the above in .emacs ?
<p>Chetan
<br><b></b>
<p>Stephen Chadfield wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:51:33 -0400, Chetan Vora
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<br>wrote:
<p>>I'm sorry if this has been answered before but my search provided no
<br>>such query before. Basically, I installed XEmacs21.1 binaries for
Linux
<br>>(RPMs which I converted to .deb and then used Corel Update to install
<br>>them). It complained it needs libdb.so.3 which for some reason is
not
<br>>there. So I went and downloaded glibc21 RPM after doing a search on
the
<br>>web. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to convert that RPM to .deb. Could
<br>>someone tell me where I can find a "glibc21 version" for Debian Linux
?
<br>>Or am I doing something wrong when doing the RPM->DEB conversion ?
<p>I have always found XEmacs to be an easy compile for Linux/Unix and
<br>always compile from source.</blockquote>
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From: Toby Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: enlightenment crashes with new X server
Date: 12 Oct 2000 10:56:24 -0400
!! "me" == me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
me> hi i'm using slackware 7.1 and i've decided to upgrade my X server from
me> 3.3.6 to 4.0.1. The X server successfully installs, but when i try to
me> run enlightenment (0.16.4), it reports the error:
me> "Xlib: This server does not support the shape expansion. Either your
me> Xserver is too old or misconfigured. Exiting"
me> When compiling the Xserver i performed the routine make World and make
me> install. I used this server on an older redhat 6.0 system with
me> enlightenment 0.16.3 and i had no problems.
me> What's the problem?
Have you loaded all the correct modules into XFree86? Because 4.0.x supports
plugin modules, you may merely be not loading the "extmod" module in your
XF86Config-4 file in /etc/X11.
Find the 'Section "Modules"' and add
Load "extmod"
to it.
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
--
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The views and opinions expressed in this message are my own, and do
not necessarily reflect those of IBM Canada.
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From: John Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: defrag
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:11:37 GMT
Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
> In article <qvlE5.51351$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Is there a "defrag" type utility available on Linux?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >John
> >
> >
>
> Read section 5.5 of the FAQ at
> <URL:http://www.linuxdoc.org/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/>.
>
> /A
>
Oops! I should have checked the docs first. I fired off the message
without thinking. Sorry.
John
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Subject: Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Oct 2000 11:19:57 -0400
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can't get Netscape6 to install. Downloaded the install but when I
> try to unzip it I get an error from tar. I've cut and pasted the gzip
> -dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
you want to download the whole thing.
<URL:ftp://ftp2.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6_PR3/unix/linux22/sea/netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz>
i got it downloaded and installed, but the damn thing dumps an
immediate core before anything comes up on the screen. i am using
redhat 7.0 and suspect netscape cannot handle something with the new
shared libraries. has anyone had better luck?
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:21:06 -0400
From: Rob Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lilo not found in MBR Dell Poweredge RAID
Eric wrote:
> Rob Carlson wrote:
> >
> > This is a tough one. Sorry for the length. It is necessary.
> >
> > I have a Dell Poweredge 4400 w 6 36bb drives configured RAID 5
> > (actually two identical machines). The machine originally had RedHat
> > 6.2 preloaded on it. When I received the machines, the partitions were
> > out of whack, so I decided to reinstall. I remade the container and
> > scrubbed the disks and proceeded with the install. Note that this is
> > hardware RAID, so there should be no issues with raidtab, etc.
> >
> > Once I acquired the proper controller (Dell Percraid) I was able to do
> > an expert install, fdisk, and load everything. The only trouble came
> > when the machine rebooted. Instead of going into LILO, I received the
> > Hit F1 to retry boot or F2 to enter setup message. At this point I can
> > boot with the boot floppy I created, and can traverse the entire
> > filesystem, run commands, etc. this leads me to believe the problem
> > lies entriely with MBR. Here are some of the things I have tried:
> >
> > In bios/Raid configuration I created a non-RAID volume during one
> > attempt, on which to place /boot. This didn't work, and Dell and Red
> > Hat both told me I should be able to use the entire RAID array.
>
> Still I suspect this to be the problem. I've seen these same messages
> far to often on my DELL machine. They tend to occur here when I put an
> extra drive on the IDE controller but haven't jumpered it correctly. On
> a known good system this will make it unbootable (ofcourse :-) ). It has
> nothing to do with lilo, which is probably perfectly written in the MBR,
> and everything with your hardware configuration. The BIOS cannot find
> the HDD/RAID array for some reason. Which reason it is, I cannot tell
> you, I don't have any expierience with RAID arrays, but i suggest you
> either check jumpers/connections or fix the BIOS settings if they are
> wrong for whatever reason.
>
> Eric
I would check jumpers, except it worked out of the box. It was only after
reinstall that it failed. Very few settings in BIOS to change.
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From: Chetan Vora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corel(Debian) Linux and glibc upgrade
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:19:57 -0400
Hi all,
I'm comtemplating upgrading the glibc version on my Corel (Debian) linux
because of the
many packages which are giving me errors regarding the glibc version
being too old (2.0.7 or
something).
I download the source and thought of doing a compile (persumably the
safest way). Reading
the README file, though has scared me straight as it warns about how
dangerous it is to try
to upgrade glibc libraries. Has anyone of you safely and without much
hassle done such a
thing and if so, (a) could you share you experience (b) recall any
things to be careful about ?
Thanks in advance for the feedback,
Chet
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From: ericga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: DNS/DHCP & IP management
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:19:32 -0400
Hello all,
I'm wondering if a free software similar to QIP or JOIN exist for linux?
Preferably something that whill work with an existing installation of
Bind 8.2.2 & dhcp 3.0 from ISC.
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: url for gtksee?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:16:27 GMT
thanks - however, before i posted my original msg i had a search using
yahoo and lycos and found links to several sites...
got the tarball src for version 0.5.0 but i've seen rpms claiming
version 5.0.2... not being a great fan of rpms (not a flame bait) didnt
want to grab them; the url for the homepage given in the tarball said
hotaru.clinuxworld.com/gtksee
but netscape etc doesnt seem to think that the host exists (well,
www.clinuxworld exists but not the one above)
does anyone know if that homepage has moved elsewhere or where the
official home for gtk is?
thanks again
p
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > quick question:
> >
> > i'm trying to grab the tarball sources for gtksee but have had no
luck
> > getting through to
> > hotaru.clinuxworld.com/gtksee
> >
> > does anyone know if this link is still valid as the homepage for
this
> > package?
> >
> > thanks
> > p
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> found through google:(not sure if it's the latest, but there doesn't
> appear to be any other reference in sourceforge nor freshmeat)
>
>
http://download.sourceforge.net/mirrors/stampedelinux/unstable/pre-0.90/
source/xapp/gtksee/source/
>
> Eric
>
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From: Little Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using the dos version of dd...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:23:34 GMT
In article <uVg7qAENAHA.305@net025s>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:00:26 GMT, Little Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I've gone and got myself a copy of unix95.zip which contains dd.exe
> > which is essentially dd for dos.
>
> huh? I thought 'rawrite' was the dos version of 'dd'..
AFAIK rawrite writes images to disk, but I also need to be able to
create the images in dos in the first place. If rawrite can do this
can someone please tell me how!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux from scratch....
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:33:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:13:59 +1000, "Michael Westerman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was actually looking for a very very small system that i could compile
>from
>because i wanted to remove it after i got the lfs working enough to compile
>from it.
Bootdisk-Howto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Serial Port MP3 Player
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:32:15 GMT
Hi,
Does anyone know of any utils to enable me to get my Suse Linx 6.2 to
talk to my mp3 player thru the serial port? I need to be able to
tranfer my files to the multimedia card in the player. I'm using the
MDM-H2 Hyperhyde model from Japan.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: mysql problem
Date: 12 Oct 2000 15:44:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:56:54 +0800, gongura pacchaddi wrote:
>I use PHP 4.0 and mySQL 3.2* (..latest version) and I got this message
>everytime with any phpscripts (that I downloaded from phpresource.com
>for testing), might have something to do with mySQL.
>
>"Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in
>phpdbform/phpdbform_db.php on line 36"
>
>The errors were very consistant with every php+mysql application. If
>any of you out there who are in the know with these things, could u
>please help me get to the solution. Thanks heaps.
First, you need to have all the MySQL stuff installed. There are 4 RPMs
(I think) for MySQL; MySQL, MySQL-client, MySQL-devel, and MySQL-shared.
Make sure they've all been installed. Then you need to make sure that
your PHP has been compiled with support for MySQL. This is usually done
by going to the PHP source directory and adding --with-mysql to the
options you pass to "configure". Then make, make install, and restart
your webserver. There's a guide to doing all these things at
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/21/index2a.html
so check there if you have problems. HTH!
--
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http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:44:17 GMT
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:46:44 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:27:23 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>conducted with an entirely different philosophy than Windows. Also, Windows
>>95/98 and, yes, Me are still running on top of a real mode MS-DOS, no matter
>>how much MS may try to say that they are OSes, they are not, the DOS
>>underneath is the OS with a protected mode 32bit GUI on top of it. I will
>
>Not quite. DOS has never been an operating system; it is just a program loader
>and file system.
>
>Calling DOS an OS because it loads first is like calling lilo an operating
>system.
DOS is an operating system. It provides file and memory services, and in general
acts as an interface between the system and applications. That's what an OS
does. The analogy between LILO and DOS doesn't really hold water.
--
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:49:38 GMT
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:44:17 GMT, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:46:44 GMT,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:27:23 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>conducted with an entirely different philosophy than Windows. Also, Windows
>>>95/98 and, yes, Me are still running on top of a real mode MS-DOS, no matter
>>>how much MS may try to say that they are OSes, they are not, the DOS
>>>underneath is the OS with a protected mode 32bit GUI on top of it. I will
>>
>>Not quite. DOS has never been an operating system; it is just a program loader
>>and file system.
>>
>>Calling DOS an OS because it loads first is like calling lilo an operating
>>system.
>
>DOS is an operating system. It provides file and memory services, and in general
>acts as an interface between the system and applications. That's what an OS
>does. The analogy between LILO and DOS doesn't really hold water.
No it doesn't. Just about every DOS application ever written has to talk
directly to the hardware to get anything done.
My comparison to DOS and LILO holds perfectly well. Once windoze/9x loads, dos
is out of the picture. Windoze 9x doesn't even use dos hardly anything.
You might as well call the BIOS an OS if you really DOS can be considered an OS.
DOS has a file system and can load programs but that's about it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Why doesn't rm -R *.obj work?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 15:42:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun) writes:
|> |Excerpt from "man rm":
|> |...
|> |
|> | -r, -R, --recursive
|> | remove the contents of directories recursively
|> |...
|> | GNU fileutils 4.0 November 1998 1
|>
|>
|> That will teach me to make sure I check everything on the Linux box.
|> I actually checked the 'rm' man page on an older Solaris box.
|>
|> Damn, things keep changing while I'm not looking...
|>
|> 'rm -R *.obj' still won't decend into subdirectories and remove
|> all the .obj files.
But the * has NEVER changed. The shell expands the *, not rm, so it will
only remove files with the suffix .obj in the CURRENT directory.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is System.map ?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:09:43 GMT
"J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So when I have two kernels installed, I also get two System.map
> files, and each one is specific for the kernel it was compiled with?
Yes.
> So once the kernel loads, it looks for the file named
> 'System.map' in the /boot dir?
No. The kernel knows the addresses. ;-) That file is needed for
some programs which need info about kernel entry points, and also,
if you have an Oops (kernel bug), then you can easily figure out
which function caused it.
> Ok, but how does the kernel know which System.map to use then, if for
> example we have 2 kernels in /boot, like:
It doesn't use it as I know.
> A) "vmlinuz.2.2.13 & System.map.2.2.13"
> B) "vmlinuz.2.2.16 & System.map.2.2.16"
>
> Does it 'autodetect' it by filename extension?
You can have multiple kernels of the same version.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Linux from scratch....
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:03:27 +0200
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:33:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:13:59 +1000, "Michael Westerman"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I was actually looking for a very very small system that i could compile
> >from
> >because i wanted to remove it after i got the lfs working enough to compile
> >from it.
>
> Bootdisk-Howto
no, bootdisk does never contain gcc, glibc, and so on. I think you should
just install a basic system from a normal distro, without X and all things
you're sure you won't need. About 80 mb needed for that?
>
>
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