Linux-Misc Digest #12, Volume #19                Sat, 13 Feb 99 18:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: netscape and realplayer (Matthias Zeichmann)
  Re: Ghostscript shifting my printouts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: StarOffice (Martin)
  Read CD name ? ("Thierry BUCCO")
  Re: oops "rm -r *"  Missing part of tree, or at least a shrub 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  cpio for data transfer (ManMtn)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Timothy Lee)
  Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. [second line of defence] (Enkidu)
  Re: kernel too big? (Holger Eitzenberger)
  Re: Linux suxxxx (Tim Laursen)
  Re: SCIOCADDRT: Invalid Argument.... HELP (Enkidu)
  Re: Need help with hosed rpm database (Ben Russo)
  Re: My modem won't work.  Please help! (Alan Flanary)
  how to install apache as a web server , ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Icons in KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux (Chetan Ahuja)
  Help!!! how to set size for ramdisk MODULE??? ("Jeff Chua")

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From: Matthias Zeichmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape and realplayer
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:53:52 +0100

Bev wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Don't forget to put the % after the application name in the preferences menu.
> 
> And if that doesn't work, try %s
> 
i tried all of the above - nothing works

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ghostscript shifting my printouts
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:11:09 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith) wrote:
> Taylor Sutherland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I use RH5.2 and its standard printtool.  Before I used SuSE 5.3 and
> : apsfilter that came with it.  Both (now) do a fine job of printing on
> : my BJC-250 with the bjc600 driver.  BUT...
>
> : In SuSE, printing was perfectly aligned.  With RedHat, all my
> : postscript printings (using the bjc600 driver) are shifted to the left
> : by about 1/3 inch.  Other than making my word processors default to
> : shift the page, is there anything I can do?  I hesitate to install
>
> In Red Hat's "printtool", there is a pair of fields where you can specify
> the left/right and top/bottom page offsets.
>
> Open up the print tool, select a printer from the list, click the EDIT
> button, then click the SELECT button. On the dialog that pops up from
> there you get a number of choices, including the offset fields.
>

If I understand correctly, that is a left/right offset number, i.e., both. 
If I adjust that number from 18 to say, 20, that will increase the left
offset AND the right offset, effectively shrinking the page width.  But it
won't affect where the center is (which is off to the left)...

or am I totally mistaken?

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:56:28 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In his obvious haste, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> : I'm trying to install the StarOffice 5 package (from PC Plus, UK) on my
> : Gateway2000.
> : I get as far as the screen where one is supposed to enter personal info.
> : Filling this out and pressing enter crashes the installapp.
>
> : Any ideas? Theres plenty of RAM  (128) and space (2GB) on the drive.
>
> Strange. I got to the end of the install procedure, no problem.
> (and I only have a 486SX with 8Meg or RAM...)
>
> soffice won't work (I get a segmentation fault), but it did install.
> (I assume it's because I need more RAM)
>

Trying StarOffice on 486/8 MB RAM?? It is slooow on my home machine (P75 40
MB RAM) * shuddering * :-).

Agreed it is pretty peculiar. It installed without a hitch on my homebox.

M.


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From: "Thierry BUCCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read CD name ?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 02:54:43 +0100

Hi,

How can i know the name of a cd (iso9660)

Thanks

Thierry - FRANCE

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: oops "rm -r *"  Missing part of tree, or at least a shrub
Date: 12 Feb 99 10:41:41 GMT

Jason Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frans Gumpu Slothouber wrote:

>> Yah Right <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : I seem to have accidentally (methodically) disposed of the "local"
>> : directory under /usr on my rh5.2 box.  I was reinstalling (ech) win95
>> : and and storing data on the linux side and wiped unknown goodies along
>> : with the ms data.  I had "installed everything" from the rh5.2 disc,
>> : what I need to know is how much did I shred?  Any "easy" ideas for
>> : reloading the tree below /usr/local/  ?  Oh well at least I know that
>> : installing Linux is much easier than win95 whether I go from scratch or
>> : not!
>>
>> I think rpm might help here.  rpm can tell you what files and packages
>> are missing.     It does sound like a lot of work though... you
>> might be better of just reinstalling...
>>
>> Have fun,
>> Frans.

If RH 5.2 is anything like 5.1 (and I expect it to be), then
it *does not* put anything under /usr/local. In fact the
directory is not created if you do an RH install.

In fact I have created this directory and use it for
manually installing stuff (as opposed to RPM install). This
helps me keep track of non-RPM software I have in my system.

HTH.

>>
>>
>> --
>>  ______________________________________________________________________
>> /Frans Gumpu Slothouber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> \___/\ GalaxyNG Game Master.  http://gumpu.student.utwente.nl/~galaxyng
>> /   \/
>> Implementation: The fruitless struggle by the talented and underpaid to
>> fulfill promises made by the rich and ignorant.

> Chalk this up as a lesson on "Why you should never operate as root, unless
> you absolutely need to!"


> ;)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ManMtn)
Subject: cpio for data transfer
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:56:33 -0500

I am looking at replacing on older sco 3.2 system with a linux system in a
new box.  The backups for the SCO system are done with cpio onto 3.5"
floppies.  Can these floppies be read in with Linux?

Thanx for any help you may be able to provide.

Brad
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Timothy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:06:18 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jedi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On 08 Feb 1999 13:58:39 +0000, Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In alt.os.linux, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> What Netscape is this. Mine seems to look and act indentical to windows.
>>> There is 1 difference, no 2. It runs faster and doesn't crash.
>>
>>3. Netscape 4.5 on windows "auto-completes" entries typed into the
>>URL. On linux it does not and you have to type in the complete URL.
>
>       This is as much of a nuisance as it is a help half of the
>       time so the net effect averages out to about zero.

If the autocomplete were done using some key combination then it could
be useful (cf. tab completion in sea shells)

-- 
http://www.town-village.demon.co.uk Timothy Lee 

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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. [second line of defence]
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:12:39 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andrzej Filip wrote:
> 
> George Farris wrote:
> 
> > The problem is, the powers that be are thinking of going to an
> > Exchange server for email and I'm looking for all the ammunition
> > I can get (besides cost) for NOT using Exchange.
> >
>
Interesting thread. However Exchange Server is not just an email
system. If the management want to go to Exchange for the
Groupware functionality, there is no advantage in attacking it
just on the email front. (I know he says "email" in the original
message)

Exchange Server is reputed to be a bucket of bugs, but the same
functionality is not available as a *single* package under Linux,
is it?

Cliff

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From: Holger Eitzenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel too big?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 14:07:51 GMT

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In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, i just got my hands on 2.2.1 and tried compiling it, it compiled ok but
> it was huge!  I really didn't think i had selected that much but anyway i 
> tried using zlilo and lilo apparently agrrees with me in that it is really
> big, but lilo doesn't seem to use it... i try using it anyway and my box
> boots up ok but it boots up with all the things that were in the old kernel! 
> and nothing from what was in the new kernel!  the kicker is that i moved my
> old kernel and it seems to still be using it... i am quite confused.  i have
> tried compiling it with *everything* i could as mods but it is still > 1megs!
>  i have used bzImage but that doest seem to be of much help.  any help would
> be greatly appricated here!

Hi.

i compiled 2.2.1 with SCSI support enabled and all the other necessary
stuff. About 410KB in size and... i was quite astonished... its even
faster than the 2.0.x kernel series.

    420381 Feb  9 15:27 /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1

  Holger

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From: Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:20:09 +0100

softalk wrote:
> 
> Let me tell you I give up. After 3 solid weeks trying to set up a linux
> system I finally submit to the fact that  me and Linux do not get on. I have
> been installing novell & Win networks as a job for 9 years but wow what a
> shock I got from Linux. It's like trying to learn to program in C with no
> manual or source code to compare. Even a simple job like installing a new
> program is sometimes impossible. So goodbye Linux and goodbye smug Linux
> users.

Well good bye then.

Just one thing I would like to know: What is the aim of your posting? I
mean, why do you feel the urge to tell us that you can't make the thing
work? It is not like you are asking any questions about how you may get
"unstuck" in your installation attempts.

I sense that you feel that the documentation on the installation
procedure was somehow inadequate. If that is the case, you must have
done a really poor job at searching for information. The net is full of
it, and if you have specific questions, that you can't find the answer
to on your own hand, this very news group is an excellent help.

Sorry about being smug. Nobody is perfect, but I do have the ability to
install new programs on my Linux box. Had you only asked how to go about
it, I would gladly have helped, free of charge.

-- 

  (\        Best regards,        /)
-||||8-          Tim          -8||||-
  (/      2B OR NOT 2B = FF      \)

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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCIOCADDRT: Invalid Argument.... HELP
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:22:10 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Have you looked at the source? I had this problem, but my notebooks
don't say how I got rid of it. I have a vague recollection that it
was a simple config problem, so check for leading hashes in your
rc. files! Do you use modules, and is the correct module activated
at boot time? Are you sure the card still works?

Cliff 

Nobody wrote:
> 
> Thanks.... but it didn't seem to work for me.  I have noticed
> that I get the same error immediately following the appletalk
> 0.17 line on bootup.
> Any other suggestions???
>

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Need help with hosed rpm database
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:28:21 -0500

Dennis Putnam wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:40:02 -0500, Ben Russo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >get the packages that should be installed.
> >
> >do a
> >
> >rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --replacefiles  name-of-package*.rpm
> >
> >Then if you want to erase them you should be able to rpm -e them.
> >
> >-Ben.
> >
>
> Thanks for all that replied. Unfortunately, none of the suggestions
> worked. Using the --force did install the files but the -e still says
> the packages are not installed. Interestingly the 'rpm' GUI must be a
> littel more tolerant. Although when I used it to delete packages it
> told me there were errors and did not delete it, it did let the pakage
> be displayed on the 'avaliable' display. I was able to install all the
> packages that had missing or bad checksum errors. However, the rpm
> databse is still hosed and all those packages still say they are
> installed when using the -i option and not installed when using the -e
> option. I don't know what the implications of this will be over time
> as packages are updated, etc. I don't have a clue how to get the
> database back in sync.
>
> One additional point with the XFree86 upgrade. As far as I can tell no
> one has put that into an rpm file. I downloaded all the tgz files and
> installed them using the instructions but nothing updated the rpm
> database for that package. When I do a verify many files come up with
> a checksum error and the database only has 3.3.2 in it. Anyone know
> where I can find an rpm file of XFree86 3.3.3.1 so I can install it to
> get the database correct?
>
> Am I being overly concerned with the integrity of the rpm database in
> the first place?

I don't think you are being overly concerned.  I use RPM's religiously.

As a former Slackware user I at first thought RPM's were evil.

But as I learned about all the options it has at the command line level
and how to use rpm to install and uninstall binaries and to rebuild
source code packages and to check on installed files and their proper
perms/owners and such  I thought RPM's were a godsend.

They make managing a dozen linux boxes a breeze.

I would definitely write a letter to RedHat and see if you can get them
to
assist you in fixing your problem.  However if the RPM database is
truly hosed I can't think of what you could do other than to

1.  make a list of the "supposedly" installed RPMS.
2.  make backup copies of the RPM database files.
3.  remove the RPM database files and rebuild blank ones.
4.  rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --replacefiles <step 1>
    /* this should rebuild an originally empty RPM database!?! */
5.  use rpm to see what all files on the system are *NOT* owned
    by rpm files
6.  See if those are actually members of RPM's that weren't in
    the old corrupted database files
7.  rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --replacefiles <step 6>
8.  check for config files that were "backed up and replaced"


This should work...  But I would e-mail RedHat to see what to do.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Flanary)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My modem won't work.  Please help!
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:11:35 -0800

In article <7a039p$4pc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I have RH5.2.  I followed the instructions that were in the book for setting
> up ppp, but when I try to connect nothing happens.  How can I tell if the
> computer even sees the modem?  (The modem does work with W95)
> 
> 
> 
Did you tell Linux where your modem is. Start control-panel and click the 
modem icon, then tell Linux where your modem is. If that doesn't work, 
you may need to use isapnptools to find your modem.
-- 
Alan Flanary

Remove "NOSPAM" from address for e-mail


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how to install apache as a web server ,
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:42:40 GMT

Hello,

I have just begin to work with linux and I vwould like to know how to install
apache as a web server.

Thanks.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Icons in KDE
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:37:27 GMT

KDE will simply try to use a "folder.xpm". It looks for it in
~/.kde/share/icons, and, if it is not there, in (where kde is
installed)/share/icons.

That way, if you want to use a custom folder icon, you just put it in your
own directory, and noone is disturbed.

You customized it by accident :-)

Just deleting the folder.xpm in your home dir should give you back the
standard one.

Good luck!


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     Hmm... weird.
>
>     Earlier today while looking for an icon file, I stumbled across the
> "/usr/share/icons" directory... which I didn't even know was there (it's
>
> been so long since I've used X without KDE, there's probably oceans of
> stuff like this I've never bothered to learn!).  I thought that some of
> these icons were so much better than ones I was using that I had to
> incorporate them... so I set a symbolic link to that directory in the
> place of the user's KDE icons directory (in my case,
> "/home/steve/.kde/share/icons"), so that I could use them without
> messing up the standard KDE set in "/opt/kde/share/icons" or having to
> move them from the shared X directory (in case I ever decide to try a
> different window manager).
>
>     ANYWAY... after that I was all happy, except that a couple of weird
> things started happening.  Mainly, the folders on my desktop were now
> represented by this really simplistic and ugly folder icon... the
> nice-looking KDE folders were gone.  After tinkering around, I found
> that this was what "folder.xpm" from the "/usr/share/icons" directory
> looks like... ordinarily folders are represented by an icon by the same
> name in "/opt/kde/share/icons".
>
>     I tried changing the icon back to the one from the main KDE set, but
>
> it said that this was what it was already set for.  Finally, just for
> the hell of it... I overwrote the "folder.xpm" file from
> "/usr/share/icons" with the one from "/opt/kde/share/icons".  After
> that, it was back to normal again!
>
>     I was wondering if anyone else has seen something like this before,
> if perhaps it might be a bug in KDE.  I'm also trying to figure out why
> the "logout" icon on the virtual-desktop-switcher-thingy at the bottom
> of the screen has changed from normal to some tan-colored squigly
> thing... but I guess that's another story for another day!
>
> Steve
>
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux
Date: 13 Feb 1999 22:26:15 GMT

Tat M. Leung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have a computer currently running NT server using NTFS.  I like to add a
: second harddisk to the computer and install RedHat Linux on this drive.  The
: second harddisk will be used for Linux exclusively.  I understand that if NT
: is using FAT, there would not be any problem.  Since my system is using
: NTFS, can I install RedHat Linux on this system?

: Thank you for any advise.

: Tat

  You don't provide much detail.. I gather you are trying to use LILO
to multiboot NT and linux. As long as you keep both disks on the forst IDE channel
AND remember to create a small boot partition in your Linux disk which falls within
the first 1024 cylinders, there should be no problem. BUT if you want to 
keep both disks on separate IDE channels, you would need to resort to some trickery
( As I had to). There have been some fairly recent changes ( I think) to LILo that
allow this. Search for my post in this group with the title "Yes LILO can boot from 
secondary IDE channel" for details. Also read some of the back references from that 
post to
get a good idea of what the problem was and what all I tried to solve it...


   <I am removing followups to irrelevant groups like c.o.l.netowrking etc and
non-existant groups like comp.os.linux.admin... be more careful in the future please.>

  Chetan



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From: "Jeff Chua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help!!! how to set size for ramdisk MODULE???
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:42:57 +0800



I know ramdisk_size=xxx would set the ramdisk size at boot up.

Question is how to set the same option in /etc/modules.conf when
ramdisk (rd.o) is loaded as a module?????


Thanks,
Jeff.
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