Linux-Misc Digest #12, Volume #24 Fri, 31 Mar 00 20:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Reading Amiga filesystem in Linux? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Help - can't install gcc (NF Stevens)
Gnome panel segmentation fault crash. ("Michael A. Rees")
Re: Compile IMG (Victor Wagner)
Netscape Messenger Question (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith)
Re: What should I buy? (Dances With Crows)
Changing Display Manager (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith)
Re: Precision of Linux's libm??? (Harlan Grove)
lpr only prints as root (frank mori hess)
Re: Booting from floppy to Kernel on Fixed disk (Unclebob)
Re: A really quick one (Bill Putney)
Re: NO DIALTONE (Bill Putney)
Re: autoloading of scsi modules (Bill Putney)
Re: QUESTION! ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: incoming network connection...sometimes (Bill Putney)
Can't delete #@$!!*&! .config file (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: Please Help! (Bill Putney)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Reading Amiga filesystem in Linux?
Date: 31 Mar 2000 18:15:37 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 31 Mar 2000 20:24:41 +0000, mark
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>I have an Amiga hard disk but unfortunately no longer have my Amiga..
>I've heard that Linux can read the Amiga FFS filesystem, but I haven't a
>clue how to.. can Linux read it as standard or do I need to download
>stuff? I'm running Suse 6.2 if that makes any difference.
$ su -
# cd /usr/src/linux
# make menuconfig
(use the ? key a lot, take a look at "filesystems" and what's under there.
Build the Amiga-FFS pieces as modules.)
# make dep modules modules_install
Now shut the computer down, open it up, and plug in your Amiga disk. Never
having worked with an Amiga, I don't know whether or not you'll need an
adapter or not, but once it's plugged in and the power's back on, you
should be able to access the disk in some fashion. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help - can't install gcc
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:17:25 GMT
Paul Cobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>Problem solved - thanks for the pointers raised in this thread.
>
>It was still not clear WHICH rpm I needed to install, so I did an upgrade of
>my installation & asked for all the development libararies possible. It did
>install gcc but I am still unaware of which rpm contained gcc - I think there
>is a command line rpm switch which will tell me which package gcc came from.
>
$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/gcc
gcc-2.7.2.1-6
Norman
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From: "Michael A. Rees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome panel segmentation fault crash.
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:20:11 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I had a hardware breakdown. I think the hard drive in my laptop came
loose from its socket. Anyway, fetchnews wrote all over blocks across
several partitions. After rescueing, fscking and various rpm reinstalls,
I have my Linux partition up again, but with one irritating bug.
I have RedHat 6.0 plus some packages from the 6.1 distribution. My GUI
is X11R6/Gnome/Enlightenment. Whenever the Gnome panel spawns, it
crashes about 10 seconds later with a segmentation fault.
Here's an strace:
http://www.lclark.edu/~rees/panel_strace.txt
See my rpm -qa printout here:
http://www.lclark.edu/~rees/rpm_qa.txt
And if you care, rpm -Va:
http://www.lclark.edu/~rees/rpmva.txt
Note that I have a lot of files with the "wrong" mtime, because I cp'ed
much of my file system over from another disk. (Everything ran fine for
months after that.)
Let me know if anyone has a clue. I don't. I have reinstalled the gnome
core and all its dependencies, and after that, upgraded to the gnome
core, etc., from the RH 6.1 distribution. All to no avail, except that
now I have a popup window with the segmentation faul message instead of
just a message in the terminal window.
Mike.
--
Michael A. Rees
bl899
Long Live the Cleveland Freenet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To:
ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,cz.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Compile IMG
Date: 31 Mar 2000 22:24:40 +0400
In comp.os.linux.misc onno janony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: How do I compile IMG??? (Like the bootimg's on the RedHat CD (initrd.img)
: I want to compile a boot floppy into an IMG so I can use a dos menu to run
: loadlin vmlinuz initrd=loadme.img
Img is not to be compilied - it is real image of file system to be
loaded at startup.
You should create a file system (for instance, on floppy), populate it
with neccessary files (i.e. kernel modules) and then use dd to copy it
to file.
Alternatively, you may create empty file using
dd if=/dev/zero of=myimg.img count=2880 bs=512
(to be same as 1.44 flopy)
then run mkfs on it (minix filesystem is preferrable becouse it have
less overhead than ext2), then mount it with -o loop option
and populate with files.
You'll need loopback device support in you kernel.
Refer to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt for more inforamtion.
: If you know the solution, please mail it to me @
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thnk you!
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape Messenger Question
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:21:49 -0100
Greetings,
Please could someone tell me how to change the quoted messages' header
in Netscape Messenger (i.e. from "Beno�t Smith wrote:" to something more
original) ?
Thanks in advance,
--
Beno�t Smith
Just A Rhyme Without A Reason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: What should I buy?
Date: 31 Mar 2000 18:25:59 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:30:14 GMT, th499
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Should I buy Mandrade 7, Redhat 6.2, or Debian?
None of the above. SuSE 6.4 ;-)
Seriously, there's no way anyone can answer this question without more
information. What are you planning on doing with it? (HTTP server, DNS
server, FTP server, warez server, workstation, games, programming,
mindless hacking...) Are you familiar with Unix, or not? Would you feel
more comfortable with something that tries to make it easy for a new user,
or do you want raw power and total control?
The canonical answer to this question, though, is "Use what your friends
use." If they all use RedHat, and you use RedHat, they will find it
easier to help you out. Heck, they'll probably burn a CD for you and you
won't have to buy anything at all. If you have no Linux-using friends,
see if there's a Linux User Group in your area. They often do
install-fests and provide a bit of tech support to new users. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing Display Manager
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:24:25 -0100
Greetings,
I'm using Slackware 7.0, and I would like to change my display manager
from KDM to GDM. Which files must I change ? Thanks a lot for any
answer.
--
Beno�t Smith
Just A Rhyme Without A Reason
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Precision of Linux's libm???
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:54:19 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
>correct me if i'm wrong but
>1) internally, the ia32 is a bit faster with smaller
> float setting.
Shouldn't be in terms of calculation, but may be in terms
of moving data between the FPU and memory. My old book on
Intel 8087 assembler says all internal operations are 80
bit, so even if data is stored as 32-bit floats, the FPU
will convert them to 80 bits before using them.
>2) 10 byte quantities do not align on power of two
> boundaries very well. using 80 bits, choose your poison:
> - double rounding
> - aligned with lots of wasted space
> - packed with poor performance
But if the bulk of or the entire data for a particular
calculation were stored in the CPU cache, would there be a
significant performance problem with packed data? The CPU
would load/store several KB of memory at a time, so the
only plausible drag would come from cache-FPU load/store
operations. [Granted not all Intel-based linux machines
have CPU memory caches.]
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From: frank mori hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lpr only prints as root
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:06:36 -0600
When I try to print to a remote print server using lpr (I am using LPRng
package) it works when I su to root but not when I am an ordinary user.
Anyone have any ideas what is wrong?
Frank Hess
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Unclebob)
Subject: Re: Booting from floppy to Kernel on Fixed disk
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:08:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On or about 30 Mar 2000 21:34:23 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[....Posted....]
>
> I have been running a system in which I allow DOS/Windows to
>boot if the system is simply reset or powered up with nothing in the
>floppy drive. I then have a Linux boot disk that I install when I
>want to boot linux from power up or reset. AFter configuring and
>building a new kernel, I see that the kernel or vmlinux file is too
>large to fit on the boot disk. I would still like this functionality
>so my question is whether it is possible to cause a Linux boot disk to
>run a kernel which is actually on the hard drive where it would be if
>one booted via lilo or had linux as the default boot partition?
>
>Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
>OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group
Vmlinux isn't your kernel image.
Look in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot for the one you should have built.
--
unclebob icq 3347043 (see headers for e-mail)
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From: Bill Putney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A really quick one
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:13:23 GMT
Yeah, you need to restart inetd. /etc/rc.d/init.d/inetd restart in RedHat,
or else just grep for the process number of inetd and kill -HUP the pid.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: And verily, didst kev hastily scribble thusly:
:> Hi,
:> I've done this loads before, but for the life of me I can't remember
:> fully the correct command now.
:> I want to kill telnet and ftp on my machine. I have edited the file
:> /etc/inetd.conf and commented out the telnet and ftp lines. It's the
:> next step I can't quite remember. I tried 'killall -HUP inetd' but that
:> didn't work. What am I missing?
: /sbin/init.d/inetd restart
: (In SuSE at least...)
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From: Bill Putney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NO DIALTONE
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:16:31 GMT
I've never used kppp, but a comma or two before the phone number should
make it pause for a few seconds before it dials.
HTH
-Bill
Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: hi
: i am using Red Hat Linux 6.1
: i got an error message when i try to connect to the internet using kppp
: it is a NO DIALTONE message while the modem trying to dial a number.
: in MS Windows i got this message too but there is a check box called "wait
: for dial tone before dialing" which i can uncheck to dial up.
: can i disable the "wait for dial tone" in linux?
: how to do it?
: thanks!
: --
: Posted via CNET Help.com
: http://www.help.com/
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From: Bill Putney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: autoloading of scsi modules
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:25:40 GMT
Well, you could add a line to one of your startup scripts that will load
the module every time your machine boots. If you're using Red Hat you
may want to add '/sbin/modprobe aha152x' to the end of /etc/rc.d/init.d/
rc.local. If you don't want the module loaded every time you boot you
could write a little script that loads the module and starts xsane.
#!/bin/sh
/sbin/modprobe aha152x
/path/to/xsane
Mabye call it 'start-xsane' or something similar.
HTH
-Bill
Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'm having a bear of a time trying to get scsi module loading working. I
: have a cheapie aha152 card with a microtek scanner attached. This combo
: does work okay, even though it does tend to hog the bus when
: scanning....oh well, another day and I may have some more $s to put into
: this system.
: I'm using the xsane/sane package for the scanner.
: But, on to the problem. I have the following in my /etc/conf.modules:
: alias scsi_hostadapter aha152x
: post-install sg modprobe aha152x
: options aha152x aha152x=0x140,9
: With a 2.2.x kernel my understanding (obviously wrong) when xsane is
: started up it should load the aha152x module? It isn't. When I start
: xsane I get the message 'no devices available' popup. So...what do I
: need to do to get this working.
: If I use 'modprobe aha152x' then the aha152x module is loaded, and then
: when I run xsane the sg module is loaded (and it appears to unload
: later).
: So, how do I get the aha152x module to load? I guess I'm missing a magic
: command in my conf.modules file, but can't figure what.
: BTW, I'm doing all this as root right now, so permissions shouldn't be a
: problem (that will all come later).
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: QUESTION!
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:24:30 -0800
"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> how can you avoid paying for windows? it's pre-installed everywhere.
> (yes, i know you can build your own. however you have to go out of
> your way to avoid it.)
A lot of smaller, more freewheeling computer shops advertise prices of new
machines without Windows. In the fine print they mention that Windows is
not included. Check the ads in Microtimes, if you get it where you live.
Matt O.
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From: Bill Putney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: incoming network connection...sometimes
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:32:42 GMT
Also, check your netmask. Don't mean to insult your intelligence, but
recently I had a similar problem and a bad netmask was the problem. It
could very well be the router though.
-Bill
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Hi,
:>
:> I have an odd problem with incoming network connections (outgoing
: always
:> seems to be fine). Sometimes (and there doesn't seem to be a pattern
: to
:> these times), my computer will suddenly stop responding to outside
:> connections. I'm not able to ping it, ssh in, etc. etc. When I
:> traceroute it, the traceroute stops one hop before my computer:
:>
:> traceroute to bistromath.Stanford.EDU (171.66.65.41), 30 hops max, 38
: byte
:> packets
:> 1 res-gateway (171.66.16.1) 1.435 ms 0.927 ms 0.911 ms
:> 2 Core3-gateway (171.64.3.98) 1.524 ms 1.323 ms 1.188 ms
:> 3 jenkins-gateway (171.64.3.13) 1.979 ms 2.146 ms 1.365 ms
:>
:> However, I _can_ access it from the other computer in my room (which
:> doesn't need to go through the gatways). Eventually, it just starts
:> responding to connections again (i.e., I don't have to do anything). I
:> can't find anything in the logs which seems out of the ordinary.
:>
:> Oh, I'm using a Red Hat system with a 2.2.9 kernel, DHCP (pumpd
: running).
:> Is there something I should look for in the network configuration, or
: is
:> it possible the router is just screwy?
:>
:> Thanks,
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't delete #@$!!*&! .config file
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:47:33 -0700
I have repeated samba print problems. It seems that the default
install ownerships of at least some files under /var/spool/lpd/lp
and ../lp0, etc, get the wrong ownership or group assignments in
Redhat or Mandrake such that samba printing doesn't work. But
that is another question. What I am presently fighting with is
a direct result of trying to fix the samba print problem.
I am running Mandrake 7.0, kernel-2.2.14, with lpr-0.48,
and printtool-3.43-2. As part of trying to get the damn samba
printing working, I tried removing the lpr, printtool, and
rhs-filters rpms so that I could then reinstall and start over
(AGAIN!!!). Problem is, I cannot get rid of /var/spool/lpd/lp/.config.
Removing the rpms didn't get rid of it, though it eliminated all the
other entries (lp0, and lp1 plus all the associated config files, etc).
I get a message about .../lp directory not being empty. Fine, so
I cd to /var/spool/lpd/lp and find that there is one and only one
file left: .config. So, I try to rm .config. I can't. I get a
message that it cannot be unlinked and that the function cannot
be performed. I tried "rm -f .config", same thing. I tried rebooting
to linux single and then deleting the damn file but could not. I
tried changing the file's name but am not permitted (and I am running
as root here...what the hell's up with THAT? As root I can/should be
able to do ANYTHING, no matter how destructive to the health of the
system). I tried changing the group of the file (the owner is root
and the group was/is lp) to root but am not permitted. I get a message
that I am not a member of group root. WHAT?! I am running as root so
yes I AM a member of the root group.
I cannot get rid of this file and yet it MUST go. How do I force the
system to accept the fact that I am root, which makes me GOD, and let
me eliminate the damn file? The immutable flag is not set, by the
way.
Please help before I get pissed enough to reformat and reinstall
everything just to get past this one file.
patrick
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From: Bill Putney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Help!
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:44:04 GMT
See if this doc helps:
http://www.secretagent.com/doc/howto/Installation-HOWTO-5.html
I followed it and had no problems.
nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Dances With Crows wrote:
:>
:> This will require Partition Magic or something; moving a FAT32 partition
:> up a few cylinders is a royal pain. Or,
:> /dev/hda1 FAT32 C: 7.5G
:> /dev/hda2 ext2 /boot 25M
:> /dev/hda3 extend 30G
:> /dev/hda5 FAT32 D: 11.5G
:> /dev/hda6 and up ext2/swap / and so on...
:>
:> which is a bit easier to do, but splits your FAT32 space up a bit. (This
:> can be a Good Thing! Keep all the data on hda5 and when Winblows
:> scrozzles itself, reinstall it onto hda1!)
: ID for /dev/hda3 should be f (win'95 extended)!!!
: I tried exact the same partition as above with ID=5 (dos extended)
: and win98 had problems installing (i guess because it was >8GB and with
: dos extended LBA is not enabled under dos). after trying sometime i
: changed the ID to f and everything worked.
: nina
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