Linux-Misc Digest #45, Volume #21                Thu, 15 Jul 99 20:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Man page updates. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to suspend and restart a process with its idp number? (Perry Pip)
  Updating Kernel 2.1.131 (Andreas Gutzwiller)
  Re: Bad superblock on Redhat 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: VMware with SuSE 5.3 (Steve)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Peter Seebach)
  Re: Vmware and other users? How? (Alex Butcher)
  Re: FTP daemon resetting folder permissions??? (Christopher Suleske)
  Re: tar not packing files starting with "." (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: Anyone successfully configured PPP on a Compaq Presario 2100??? (Anita Lewis)
  Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX ("Anthony W. Youngman")
  Star Office glibc2.1 Install Problem (root)
  Re: Can someone recommend.... ("Art S. Kagel")
  Re: Bad superblock on Redhat 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Bad Modem or bad connections? (Ramin Sina)
  Re: Chmoding directories for =?iso-8859-1?Q?=ABO=BBthers:?= x or rx? (Tony Houghton)
  How to suspend and restart a process with its idp number? (Francois-Nicola Demers)
  Re: Communicator 4.61 with diald causes temporary X freeze (Donald Gingrich - D/N)
  Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Brian Ewart)
  Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! (Helmer Osell)
  Re: Linux+NT4+win98 (Pierre Arnaud)
  Re: Kernel upgrade: make modules_install messes everything up? (NF Stevens)
  Re: Is CD-R usuable as backup medium on Linux? (William Burrow)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Man page updates.
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:20:50 GMT

I just updated samba from 1.9.17 to 2.0.3, but the man pages are still
from the old version.  I'm using redhat, so I used the rpm to install
it.  Should the rpm update the man pages too?  or is there somewhere
else i have to go to get the updated man pages?

Stephen Muench


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: How to suspend and restart a process with its idp number?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:32:43 GMT

On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:02:32 -0400, Francois-Nicola Demers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I would like to know how to suspend a process using its idp number and
>to restart it later again with its idp number.

I think you mean pid number. Try:

man 7 signal
man kill
man 2 kill

Perry



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Gutzwiller)
Subject: Updating Kernel 2.1.131
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:57:44 GMT

After a long time I think I have to update my system. I'm still using
Kernel 2.1.131.
What do I have to install to upgrade to Kernel 2.2.x? 

-- 
Andreas Gutzwiller                        FIDO:      2:301/207.13
SWITZERLAND                               CIS:      100072,130
PGP-key: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/agutzwil/Key.asc
Fingerprint: A3 2D 1D B1 BA 1E 36 B6  A2 AB 54 90 46 86 01 85

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bad superblock on Redhat 6.0
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:42:55 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty) wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:18:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >After a proper shutdown, my system now boots with a bad superblock
> >error.  It suggests running 'e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/xxxx' to fix the
> >problem.  This appears to run cleanly but I still get the error on
boot-up

A person or force unbeknownst to me had removed the '3' from /dev/sda3
in my /etc/fstab file.

Bruce


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware with SuSE 5.3
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:37:32 GMT




Ask jedi. According to him it is so easy to make any version of any
Linux program work with any other distribution.


Oh jedi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:35:03 +0200, Martin Thiede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>is it possible to use VMware for Linux with SuSE 5.3 ?
>
>I installed vmware with �install.pl�. When i try to start it with
>�vmware� i get that error message:
>
>(USER) Exiting on unexpected signal.
>Panic without a VM
>
>and in vmware-log it says:
>
>Jul 15 21:27:05: Log for VMware PID 462
>Jul 15 21:27:05: Host version 2.0.35.0.0
>Jul 15 21:27:08: Caught signal 11 -- pid 462
>Jul 15 21:27:08: Exiting on unexpected signal.
>Jul 15 21:27:08: VT: Failed to stop kernel output redirection
>Jul 15 21:27:08: Clean exit.
>
>Do i have to make changes to my standart suse 5.3 system to get vmware
>running ?
>
>
>thanks in advance,
>
>Martin
>
>


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:42:56 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Holy Cow  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Right. And we don't need to go that far back in history--for example,
>right now, try to get a decent net connection. If you don't like what
>you get you can switch to another provider--any one of the four that
>still remain <g>.

I see no failure here.  There's a variety of choices, nay, a *plethora* of
choices for network services and hosting.  Don't like what you find?  Build
your own.  :)

And remember, the government has historically viewed communications as likely
"natural monopolies".

Anyway, net access continues to get faster, cheaper, and better supported.  I
have no complaints.

-s
-- 
Copyright 1999, All rights reserved.  Peter Seebach / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter.  Boycott Spamazon!
Will work for interesting hardware.  http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/
Visit my new ISP <URL:http://www.plethora.net/> --- More Net, Less Spam!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Butcher)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Vmware and other users? How?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:23:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:49:18 GMT, Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am currently evaluating vmware but am at a loss as to how to make my
>virtual machine available to other users in my family. Each has their
>own logon,as is proper with Linux. The virtual disk, however, is
>installed in my home directory.
>
>Surely I am not expected to buy multiple licenses for my household?

Maybe. IANAL. :)

> I
>did try installing to /usr/local but got in quite a tangle with
>permissions and the fact that config files AND virtual disk expect to be
>located in the same directory.
>
>Has anyone achieved this?

I haven't tried to, but how about if you create a .vmware/ directory in
every users' home directory, a /usr/local/win95 directory containing the .cfg,
.nvram, .dsk and so on, then run 'vmware /usr/local/win95/win95.cfg' ?

>-- 
>Phillip Deackes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Debian Linux (Potato) 

Best Regards,
Alex.
-- 
Alex Butcher   Using Linux since '95 - because windows are too easy to break.
Berkshire, UK  URLBLAST:slashdot.org:www.freshmeat.net:www.dejanews.com:
PGP:0x33489FD3 lwn.net:www.tomshardware.com:www.stardiv.de:www.gimp.org:

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From: Christopher Suleske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP daemon resetting folder permissions???
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:44:12 -0400

Hmmm... I checked for /etc/permissions and /home/ftp/etc/permissions... no
dice.

I checked in my FTP docs and couldn't find anything about it!

<C>

NF Stevens wrote:

> Christopher Suleske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi.  I'm running the most recent anonymous FTP daemon that comes with
> >6.0.  An interesting "feature" is that every so often, the permissions
> >and owners of the standard setup folders (pub, etc) are reset to their
> >initially installed values.  Is this a feature run by cron somewhere?  I
> >don't recall this in earlier versions.
> >
> >What I do is change the owner of pub, so it can be maintained by a
> >non-root user.
> >
> /etc/permissions
>
> Norman


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: tar not packing files starting with "."
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:00:02 GMT

NightFever ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: you can try:
: 
: tar <your switches> <tarfile.tar> "*"

Did you try that command?

Not likely, since it fails:

        $ tar cvf ../out1.tar "*"
        tar: Cannot add file *: No such file or directory
        tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

        Stu

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From: Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone successfully configured PPP on a Compaq Presario 2100???
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:35:55 GMT

Ditto for Compaq Presario 2200.  I bought a Viking External 56K that runs on
the Serial port for about $90 from CDW.

Anita

Steve Snyder wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:49:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >I'm new to Linux, and I'm trying to setup my PPP connection, but Linux
> >doesn't seem to be able to find the modem. Any words of widsom? Please
> >reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.
>
> If your 2100 is like my Presario 1260, you have a WinModem and can forget
> about it working under Linux.  WinModems use a Win32 device driver in place
> of a hardware CODEC.
>
> Get a hardware modem.  They work with *any* operating system.
>
> ***** Steve Snyder *****


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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:21:54 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gergo Barany
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
>>>>Bearing in mind libc5 wasn't even on the (single, not set of) CD, that
>>>>meant that EVERY non-SuSE executable on my system broke :-(
>>>
>>>That had to happen sooner or later. A short, painful transition period
>>>is a lot better than a long, painful one.
>>>
>>You mean it's fine for them to break my programs? Including ones for
>>which I don't have the source, and *C*A*N*T* rebuild? I don't think so.
>
>Everyone knew libc5 and glibc are not compatible, and it's not realistic
>to assume you would have used both of them forever. Your binaries would
>have broken sooner or later; now they broke, you replaced them,
>everything's great. It cost some money, but everytime you get software
>it costs you.
>
Why then are people STILL CREATING software that uses libc4 - that's
FOUR!

The point is - I can't replace my programs because they are commercial
binaries. My binaries broke so I replaced them? Yes, I replaced libc5
with libc5. I had no choice.

The point is that the poster to whom I originally replied, asked why you
should never upgrade SuSE. I gave my experience as an example.

Do you want linux to become a mainstream force? I certainly do. Do you
think it acceptable that an OS upgrade should break EVERYTHING except
the OS itself? I certainly don't. If you're happy to see linux shoot
itself in the foot, bully for you. Just don't expect me to be happy.

Anyway, we're getting well off-topic for ctt - followups amended...
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)

If replying by e-mail please mail wol. Anything else may get missed amongst
the spam.


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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Star Office glibc2.1 Install Problem
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:55:44 -0500

The Star Office web site says that you need a special build of the
install files for the new glibc2.1, and to get it of of your Redhat or
Caldera install CDs. (The install files for the 2.07 will not install on

Redhat 6) These RPM's are not posted on either companies ftp sites. Any
suggestions for obtaining or installing the 2.07 version with the 2.1
glibc?

Thanks in advance,

Jim Sauber




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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can someone recommend....
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:14:27 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Emacs, pine, and elm are all good though pine's mouse support is poor 
it does let you define emacs (or something else) as your actual editor.

Art S. Kagel

Andrew Arbon wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Can someone recommend me a good offline news reading program and a good
> email editor for X windows, please?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> --
> Andrew Arbon
> 
> A bus station is where a bus stops.
> A train station is where a train stops.
> On my desk I have an NT work station.....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bad superblock on Redhat 6.0
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:45:13 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear) wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:00:07 -0500, "News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >After a proper shutdown, my system now boots with a bad superblock
error.
> >It suggests running 'e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/xxxx' to fix the problem.
This
> >appears to run cleanly but I still get the error on boot-up.

A person or force unbeknownst to me removed the '3' from /dev/sda3 in
my /etc/fstab file.

Bruce


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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Bad Modem or bad connections?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:59:48 -0400

Michael McConnell wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Ramin Sina wrote:
>
> > Hi all, this may be a stupid question, but how can I tell if a modem is
> > gone bad and needs replacement?
> > I have an internal  v90 US Robatics modem which I had been successfully
> > using to connect my SuSE 5.2 machine to my ISP. Now when I use ezppp to
> > dial in, I get connected ( I hear the usuall modem noise and I get the
> > written  indication that connection was made) but
> >
> > 1)  it takes netscape a very long time to launch now
> > 2) pppd dies after a few of minutes.
> >
> > My ISP provides no support for linux users, but claims that nothing they
> > have changed in their modems that could possibly slow down the
> > connection. Does this necessarily mean  that my modem needs replacement
> > , or is it possible that my configuration files are corrupted? What is
> > the best way to test the modem?
>
> Is your machine dual-boot Windows and Linux? If so, does the modem work fine
> in Windows? If so, see what its settings are.
>

Thanks for your responde. It is Just Linux



>
> I had this sort of problem when my modem was COM3 IRQ5 and I'd forgotten to
> use setserial to set /dev/ttyS2 to IRQ5 (instead of its default IRQ4).
>

How do I do something like that?

Thanks
Ramin Sina



>
> -- Michael "Soruk" McConnell                       [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
> Eridani Star System  --  The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.amush.cx/linux/   Fax: +44-8701-600807

--
===========================================================
 Ramin Sina

 Institute    for   Physical   Science    and    Technology
 University  of  Maryland   College Park   Maryland   20742
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   (301) 405 4860     Fax: (301) 314 9363




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Houghton)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chmoding directories for =?iso-8859-1?Q?=ABO=BBthers:?= x or rx?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:07:21 GMT

In <7mlih9$3n2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nope.  A file can be deleted iff you have write permission to its
> parent directory.  You don't need to own the file, but you do
> need write permission to the directory, whether or not you own
> the directory.  (Obviously, if you own the directory but don't
> have write permission to it you can simply grant yourself permission
> and then delete the file.)

Has anyone mentioned the sticky bit yet? ;)

Ie if the sticky (t) bit is set on a directory, users can only delete
their own files.

-- 
TH * http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/
Supporting CUT: http://www.unmetered.org.uk/

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From: Francois-Nicola Demers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to suspend and restart a process with its idp number?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:02:32 -0400

Hi,

I would like to know how to suspend a process using its idp number and
to restart it later again with its idp number.

Thanks.

Francois-N. Demers


PS: Please forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

======================================
Fran�ois-Nicola Demers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
======================================

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From: Donald Gingrich - D/N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.61 with diald causes temporary X freeze
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:39:58 +1000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> System:
>   diald                      - to automate dialing for my home network.
>   Netscape Communicator 4.61 - for browsing.
>   AfterStep 1.7.120          - window manager
>   RedHat 6.0                 - opsys
> 
> When I first start Communicator and click on the
> bookmarks, X freezes.  After the connection with
> my ISP is established everything goes back to normal
> and works well.
> 
> What is causing X to freeze (not respond to mouse
> clicks)?
> 
> Why is Communicator starting a network connection
> so early in the game?  I may want to only view
> a local manual written in html.
> 
> TIA...
I have a similar problem / requirement. I've downloaded
several web pages for offline reading. I'd like to run
Netscape in an Offline configuration. 

I noticed other comments about fontpaths and hangs. I'll
try them -- what I've noticed is that NS appears to get 
into a tight loop -- top on a different vt shows NS 
soaking up 90-98% of the cpu cycles. I've made sure
MOZILLA_HOME is set correctly and this seems to have fixed
a lot of the sudden NS death syndrome.

The big issue seems to be that, since NS tries to do its
own DNS name resolution it spends a lot of time stuffing
around before it times out. Of course, with downloaded
pages there is always a potential problem with pointers
to other sites -- adverts, for example. 

Of course, the other option might be to run some other 
browser --- any suggestions. BTW IE is *right out* so 
don't even suggest. NS on NT would work - it has an 
"offline" option -- why is this not on the Unix/Linux
version.

Thanks for any suggestions.

-Don
-- 
Don Gingrich       Unix SysAdmin -- Ericsson Australia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]      [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Brian Ewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:46:11 -0400

I switched from Windows 95 to Linux. (Redhat 5.2, with plans to upgrade to
6.1 when available) What do you need to know?

Brad Grimes wrote:

> If so, I'm writing a magazine article about operating systems and I'd like
> to hear from you. Drop me a line at:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks.

--
Brian Ewart
"The Special Edition"




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From: Helmer Osell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:04:20 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian wrote:
> 
> This is my rule.  According to Linus' audio, he pronounces the 'i' the
> same as he does in his first name.  So one could state Linux is just
> (Linus + Unix = Linu + x = Linux) so one should pronounce the 'i' like
> you would pronounce the 'i' in the name Linus (in your own native
> language)!
> 
> Example:
> In American English it would be Linux with the 'i' as in 'site' and 'u'
> as in 'drum' ( IPA = /'laIn @ks/ ).  I have _never_ heard an American
> pronounce the name Linus with an 'i' as in 'tip' ( IPA = /I/ )!!  But
> maybe I live a sheltered life.    Perhaps, 'i' as in '<ea>sy' ( IPA =
> /i/ ) is alright in American English as well if you have a European
> accent or prefer to sound more stately ;)
> 
> Pretty simple eh?  Works for me.  It allows a lot of different
> interpretations, but all to be correct in there own language.  I just
> don't understand where people get Linux as 'Linix' where both the 'i's
> are as in 'tip'  ( IPA = /`lIn Iks/ ).  If I were to say any
> pronounciation was wrong, that would be the one.
> 
> IPA Pronunciation Guide:
> http://language.perl.com/misc/IPA/IPA.2
> 
> -Brian
> 
> --
> Brian Rectanus
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Havent heard anyting as idiotic like "so one should pronounce the 'i'
like
you would pronounce the 'i' in the name Linus (in your own
nativelanguage)!"
Get yourself some education. Then you would understand that only yankee
and
some frogeaters are foolish enough to think an name could be pronounced
in
another way than it should be pronounced

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From: Pierre Arnaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+NT4+win98
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:49:36 +0200



liang wrote:

> I just got a new hardrive(13.6GB) and I want to install all
> three OSes available to me.  Any suggestions about the
> partition, installation order etc?
> such as: which way is better, use PartitionMagic or fdisk
> or fips of Linux to partition the drive?
>
> thanks.

One detail that is implied in Pirana Selvanandan's reply, but not stated
clearly : NT can only boot from the NT loader in the mbr. Step 1 to 5 in
this mail are meant to use NT loader to start Linux. Since you want
win98 too, you'll have to use the NT loader to all three systems. Be
very careful never to touch the mbr. It can be very tricky --sometimes
impossible-- to recover an NT system.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade: make modules_install messes everything up?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:39:57 GMT

Steven E Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

>Also, I am confused as to how two different kernel images can now
>peacefully co-exist when using modules?  Don't they try and use the same
>modules directory so that only one of them can have the
>correct dependancies???  Can anyone offer some explanation?

Modules should go into directories under /lib/modules. The
directory name is the kernel version, e.g. /lib/modules/2.2.9

You could try running depmod before rebooting in order to
create the module dependencies file; "depmod -a 2.2.9" for 
kernel version 2.2.9.

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Is CD-R usuable as backup medium on Linux?
Date: 15 Jul 1999 23:54:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:44:16 GMT,
Calvin Ostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) wrote:
>| The CDR is possibly even cheaper than this technique, and doesn't have
>| the problem accidently doing ``something'' to the big drive and
>| destroying it.  It is highly effective and maybe convenient too if you
>| want to back up an entire system.

I meant the big disk is good for backing up an entire system.

>This is the reason I want to use CD-R's, but I cannot afford a drive.
>(But note that you could "do ``something''" to the CD-R's also if you
>are not careful).

True, but the data is split across several simple, plastic disks, not
contained in one fragile, complex piece of equipment.

>| The CDR has a high entry price, but usage is fairly cheap, $3 a gigabyte
>| or so (HDs are going for $15 or so a gigabyte).  Spend the money up
>| front to save later....
>
>Well, let me explain my own backup strategy.  I have three IDE
>drives of various sizes, and a ZIP drive.  I use both Windows 95
>and Linux.  My Windows 95 is on floppies, and a few old programs for
>it are on floppies also.  My aim is to place a complete minimal core
>for Windows onto a CD-R so I can restore it very easily should I have 
>a problem.  The core of my Linux system, on the other hand, can be
...
>So I think my system is pretty reasonable, given the constraints that
>I can't afford any other major piece of equipment at all.  My main
>concern is to save the Windows 95 core in an easy to use form before
>the floppies give out.  

What I would suggest doing is joining a LUG, getting chummy with some of
the people there, helping out and asking around if somebody will burn
you a CD or two.  It is a pain to have to be a beggar, but sometimes it
is all you can do.

>And right now, my current main concern is the 24X Creative Labs
>CDROM drive I just bought this morning.  It seems to work okay once a 
>disk is mounted, but it's damn hard getting it mounted.  Same thing is
>true in DOS, Windows 95, and Linux.  Don't know why, and will

Return!  Return!  Return!  :)



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