Linux-Misc Digest #118, Volume #21               Thu, 22 Jul 99 03:13:21 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Peter Seebach)
  Re: Tracing Netscape crash in Java startup (Mike Simos)
  Re: tape backup device under Linux (Tomasz Korycki)
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("Jeffrey D. Webster")
  Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("Jeffrey D. Webster")
  Re: Red Hat is Crap!! (Doyen Klein)
  Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Tracing system calls (Mitch)
  Help, I Need A Time Server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Installation (from harddrive) failure (Doyen Klein)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: fetchmail not logging (Chris Gushue)
  Re: fetchmail not logging (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Michael Powe)
  Re: gnome task bar (Donn Miller)
  Re: netscape ("Gero H. Marten")
  Re: fetchmail not logging ("Gero H. Marten")
  Re: 3Com Ethernet Problem ("Brent Davies")
  CLI text editor for Windows ("Brent Davies")
  Re: gnome task bar (Donn Miller)
  Re: root password (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Encypted filesystems on /dev/loop (ryan)
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (mandrakefan22)
  Interesting Error in startx (Charles)
  Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Michael Powe)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:45:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Did ESR *write* it?  

No.  So?  How much of Linux was actually written by Linus?

-s
-- 
Copyright 1999, All rights reserved.  Peter Seebach / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter.  Boycott Spamazon!
Will work for interesting hardware.  http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/
Visit my new ISP <URL:http://www.plethora.net/> --- More Net, Less Spam!

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From: Mike Simos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Tracing Netscape crash in Java startup
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:45:32 GMT

Tim McNerney wrote:
> 
> I'm running a pretty stock Redhat 6.0 system. Netscape 4.61 is crashing
> on me when it tries to start Java.
>  
> Is this a known problem? Is there a known solution? Is there any utility
> similar to truss which works on Linux?
> 

Login as root and type  chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi

Read Netscape crashes on Java pages (REF#990511-0082) at
support.redhat.com.

Mike

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From: Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: tape backup device under Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:43:20 GMT

"Fred A. Miller" wrote:
> 
> Tomasz Korycki wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Hixson wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend a tape backup device for use under Linux?  This is
> > > to go into a machine with an ASUS P2B-DS motherboard (supports SCSI).
> > > The machine is currently running kernel 2.2.6, but I can upgrade it if
> > > necessary.
> > >   Any adivce is welcomed.
> > >   -M@
> >
> > I've used all kinds of SCSI tapes, from Archive Viper (QIC6150) through
> > all kinds of DAT (mostly Archive and HP), to (now) IBM-branded Exabyte
> > Mammoth. Obviously, I know think Exabyte is the best of them, especially
> > on 170m AME media: quite often when I cut the tape, it spends about 20%
> > time waiting _for _ the drive, not the other way'round. It's a fast-wide
> > SCSI, too, so You won't slow Your bus down, either. And, on average, I
> > manage to squeeze 35-38GB per cartridge.
> 
> For about the same money as an Exabyte, you can buy a Quantum DLT-7000,
> which will hold compressed 70GB.  The DLT tapes are cheaper and MUCH
> more reliable, IMHO.
> 


Hmmmm...  Yes. I distrust DLT, though, after some _very_ bad
experiences. Mind You, that was some 2 years ago.... I find it hard to
change, though. In addition, I have the same tape drive in my IBM F50,
Digital, SGI and HP machines. That provides me with a certain
flexibility. Whatever else I tried, it didn't work reliably in at least
one of them.
  I have to agree, though, that for a single machine, that is not a
consideration. And my (~2 yrs old) experience is likely of no value now.
  If somebody is not scared of newness, one might want to try AIT, too.
Damn fast acess.......

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From: "Jeffrey D. Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:45:36 GMT

Chris Lee wrote:

> In article <7n40en$lp8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >In comp.sys.amiga.misc Clifford Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Putting it simply, that's a load of crap.
> >> PAP anyone? Snipping the rest, since the entire arguments here seem to
> >> rest on CHAP, PPTP, and multimedia.
> >
> >These are three examples, nothing more.
> >
> >> Well, taking each of these, PAP is
> >> available pretty much across the board nowadays.
> >
> >Really, it is ? At ALL ISPs ? Have you actually asked them all
> >if they support it ?
> >
> >The point is that a lot of ISPs disable it on purpose, because
> >Microsoft promises "better security" with "encrypted passwords",
> >and for NT that means MS-CHAP, not CHAP.
> >
> >Whether an ISP *could* support PAP is not the issue, but whether
> >he actually does, i.e. what software clients need to log on. Let
> >me assure you that without MS-CHAP support in the client a lot
> >of ISPs become "off limits". I have quite some experience in that
> >field, supporting tens of thousands of users at ISPs all over the
> >world.
>
> Funny, what you are claiming doesn't really seem to be the case. Follow the
> following newsgroups for a while and you'll discover that.
>
> comp.protocols.ppp:
> comp.protocols.misc:
> comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip:
> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking:
> comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:
> comp.os.msdos.mail-news:
> comp.protocols.tcp-ip:

    Since you're carrying on and on about "the REAL world"... step out into it
a bit.  Call the following ISPs, and in the majority of their implementations
(including almost the ENTIRE west coast of the US) they use MS-CHAP -
rephrase, they REQUIRE it:

    WorldNet (AT&T)
    USWest
    AOL
    Prodigy
    Compuserve
    Bell South
    Pacific Bell
    Cox@Home dialup
    Mindspring
    Primenet (newer accounts only)
    Frontier/Globalcenter (which includes some primenet accounts)
    Goodnet
    Autobahn
    UUNet
    Infonet
    SpeedNet
    SpeedChoice
    FlashNet
    DreamNet
    Impact
    ...

    Shall I go on?  These are just the top ISPs in the western US.

    Your argument does NOT hold water in the "REAL" world.

Regards,
Jeffrey D. Webster



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From: "Jeffrey D. Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:46:47 GMT

Chris Lee wrote:

> In article <7n442u$hiu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >In comp.sys.amiga.misc Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Funny, what you are claiming doesn't really seem to be the case. Follow
> the
> >> following newsgroups for a while and you'll discover that.
> >
> >*grin*. Oh, well...
> >
> >I get my information directly from ISPs, from PPP login traces,
> >from other developers and from IETF workgroups (PPPEXT among them),
> >and I can assure you that I would not have gone to the trouble of
> >implementing and field-testing MS-CHAP if it had not been necessary.
> >
> >But of course if you feel the random argumentative rambling on
> >Usenet is more informative and objective then that is your choice.
>
> And I get my information from the people who *ACTUALLY CONNECT TO ISPs* in
> the *REAL WORLD*

    Uh, I'd trust the verification from an ISP over a user any day.  Most
users have no clue about MS-CHAP... period.  Still, you're having trouble
holding water...

Regards,
Jeffrey D. Webster



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From: Doyen Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat is Crap!!
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:49:42 -0700

> ..  or go look at
> <http://kernelnotes.org/dist-index.html> or at the Distributions

Linux Journal: Selecting a Linux Distribution
http://linuxjournal.com:82/cgi-bin/frames.pl/lj-issues/issue52/2999.html

I found a good article here comparing the different distributions,
thanks for the tip.

--
Doyen & Sarah Klein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: 22 Jul 1999 00:58:35 -0400

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:10:09 GMT, Christopher B. Browne wrote:
>On 22 Jul 1999 02:22:18 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>posted:

>Did ESR *write* it?  
>
>He was responsible for its management between versions 1.82 and 1.88.
>That is by no means "no" involvement, but it's now significantly
>rearchitected at version 4.2.

Like I mentionoed originally, he's not the main author. However, he 
contributed substantially , and wrote most of the docs. 

-- 
Donovan

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From: Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Tracing system calls
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:56:47 GMT

I'm currently working on a BSDi box, and have recently been introduced
to a program called 'ktrace'.  This thing is a great utility.  My
question is whether or not there is something like this for linux?  I've
made a cursory pass through freshmeat, but didn't turn up anything.

THANKS


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help, I Need A Time Server
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 05:01:31 GMT

Does anyone know how I can setup my Linux machine as
a NTP time server for clients?   What do I need so
that I get clients to sychronize with my Linux machine?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: Doyen Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation (from harddrive) failure
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:28:17 -0700

This is really stupid, but the same sort of thing happened to me, after
a bunch of other
attempts and different install variations, i cleaned the cdrom, the
problem disappeared.
If it can't read the files, it could be your CDRom, as opposed to
writting the files, where it would be your hard drive or controller.

--
Doyen & Sarah Klein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 22 Jul 1999 05:12:10 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 21 Jul 1999 07:19:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
>wrote:
>>If there was no pre-existing will to revolt in Russia then, assuming
>>all this isn't utter bullshit by someone who can't look up the Gini
>>index to utterly disprove his idiotic denial that concentration of
>>capital is a reality, why did the Germans give Lenin any money?
>
>Simple: so he could buy what he needed for putsch and after the putch
>to keep the power. As long as they continued giving him gold (not
>everything at once!), this was help for Lenin and additional guarantee
>he would not break the deal of keeping Russia away from conflict.

Do you even realize what the fuck you're saying, you oblivious little cretin?
You're saying that the Germans provided enough gold to Lenin so that he could
single-handedly overthrow the Czar Alexander II without any help from the local
populace. *What* *the* *fuck*?!

On another issue, it's totally irrevant whether Lenin was a brutal dictator
or a Marxist since it doesn't change the nature of the October Revolution,
which consists primarily of who participated (ie, which classes of Russian
society) and why. Maximillian Robespierre was one of the leaders of the
French Revolution and he turned out to be an extremely bloody tyrant. Are
you now going to use that as a basis to condemn the ideals behind the French
Revolution? Or better yet, are you going to deny there ever was a revolution?

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From: Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail not logging
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:22:50 -02-30

Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I would like fetchmail to log it's activity to /var/log/fetchmail.
: Unfortunately, it's not. Here is what I am doing:

: fetchmail -a -L /var/log/fetchmail.log -f /etc/fetchmailrc

: No log file is ever created. The program is being run with root
: priviledges so there should be no permission problems. Any ideas? BTW,
: I am using fetchmail v4.0.7.

Try adding this line to your fetchmailrc:

set logfile /var/log/fetchmail

That's how I log it. I don't use *any* command line options, just use
/root/.fetchmailrc (rather than a system-wide /etc/fetchmailrc).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: fetchmail not logging
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT

Dustin Puryear ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I would like fetchmail to log it's activity to /var/log/fetchmail.
: Unfortunately, it's not. Here is what I am doing:
: 
: fetchmail -a -L /var/log/fetchmail.log -f /etc/fetchmailrc
: 
: No log file is ever created. The program is being run with root
: priviledges so there should be no permission problems. Any ideas? BTW,
: I am using fetchmail v4.0.7.

According to the man page for fetchmail, the -L switch is only used when
fetchmail is running in daemon mode (-d).

        Stu

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 21 Jul 1999 22:16:58 -0700

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>>>>> "Arkadiusz" == Arkadiusz Danilecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Arkadiusz> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris L wrote:
    >> Richard Kulisz wrote in message
    >> <7msas0$qq2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...  Then you would have
    >> 0% employment. What is the incentive for labor? Why shouldn't a
    >> person have the opportunity to make a better (subjective)
    >> lifestyle? Who says I don't need that extra car or second home
    >> on the lake or that ski trip or whatever else I choose to buy
    >> with what I have?

    Arkadiusz>  An opportunity to make your life better is quite
    Arkadiusz> different to born as rich... I mean my opinion is you
    Arkadiusz> make your money yourself - everything is ok, but if you
    Arkadiusz> get money only because you born in wealth family sth is
    Arkadiusz> unfair.  It's not ok that some ppl can't even dream

"Inherited wealth is a stinking fish."  -- Andrew Carnegie, in his
time one of the wealthiest men in the world

mp

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Portland, Oregon USA                       http://www.trollope.org
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Amount of all stock owned by the most wealthy 1% of America: 41%
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome task bar
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:34:28 -0400

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi. I had kde and it was great. Now I just tried GNOME
> and I found a little big problem
> 
> I have apps in the task bar. So I want to switch from one to
> another. I clik and the app doesn't raise !

If you have a 3-button mouse, you can just

1.)  Click on the taskbar with the middle button, to make the
window raisable

2.)  Then click on the taskbar with the left button

This still seems like too much, though.


Donn


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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: netscape
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 06:46:20 +0200

> I use netscape (4.5) under linux. When I click on a mailto-tag, netscape
> close itself automatically. Why?

A known bug in NS 4.5

> What is the solution?

Update to NS 4.6 or in the meantime first open messenger and then
the browser.

-- 
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail not logging
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 06:49:41 +0200

Try 

fetchmail -a -f /etc/fetchmailrc >> /var/log/fetchmail.log 
 
-- 
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
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From: "Brent Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.harware
Subject: Re: 3Com Ethernet Problem
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 05:28:57 GMT

The card you are using has a driver written specifically for Windows.  I've
been told that many of the functions normally executed by the driver have
been moved into the firmware on the card itself, any most of those functions
are windows-based (ie. functions Linux expects probably won't be there).

I can't tell you for sure, but my feeling is that this NIC will be as
useless under Linux as the WinModem is.

HOKAFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
>  I am new to Linux, I am trying to configure my ethernet card 3Com
> 3CSOHO100-TX. It odesn't have the driver in it and kernel doesn't
> recognize it during the installation. I am trying to use 3c59x.c driver
> as told by someone that it will work. Then configuration GUI asks me for
> the module to add, I dont know which one so can anyohne help what I need
> to put into taht field to get going.
>     Thanks
>
> HOKAFF
>



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From: "Brent Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CLI text editor for Windows
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 05:33:27 GMT

I know that this is a Linux group, so please don't flame me for the posting.
I'm asking here because the UNIX community seems to know a lot more about
software packages than does the Windows community.

I have 4 Linux servers and 1 NT Server (NT required by my client).  I have
SSH running on the NT Server (Just figured it out) and I need to CLI text
editor for NT.  I'm figuring that any such animal would probably be a port
from UNIX.

Does anyone know of a text editor, like PICO of VI, that has been ported to
NT?  Since even the DOS editor requires graphics to run, I can't use it over
an SSH session.

Any help is appreciated!

-Brent



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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome task bar
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:29:09 -0400

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Duy D. wrote:

> focus, which is still a pain in the a.....  Any way, gnome+enlightenment
> is still not as stable as kde.

Is it just me, or does KDE seem lighter and faster?  This is surpising,
since KDE is mostly C++ based.  Of course, I noticed that compiling
software in c++ takes a much much greater time than with regular C, but
the runtime speeds of both don't differ much...  just that compile time
for c++ code is greater.

It would be nice to have a desktop environment that merged the features of
botn desktop environments, but that probably wouldn't be feasible, as
GNOME is GTK based whereas KDE is Qt.


Donn


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: root password
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:47:04 GMT

BTW, the behaviour of the Lilo "linux single" option seems somewhat distribution
dependant. On my Slackware 3.3 (vanilla) system, "linux single" takes me to a single 
user
runstate, *but* leaves me at a login prompt. I'm sure that this is simply because of 
the
line "c1:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux" in my /etc/inittab file.

I should be able to alter this to "c1:235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux" and 
enter
an additional line something like "s1:1:respawn:/bin/sh </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1" to get a
root shell in the single user state.


On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:27:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger) wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:14:39 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>     Why doesn't single user mode ask for root's password as well?  It
>>would seem to me that this could be a security breach.  What is there
>>to stop someone from walking into my office, booting my system up in
>>single user mode, and then having their way with my files?
>
>Does your office have a lock on the door?
>
>Leaving your computer physically unsecured is equivalent to leaving your
>keys in the car. A physically unsecured computer running any OS can be
>"hacked" into by even the most amateur 10 year old.
>
>-- 
>Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
>Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 22 Jul 1999 06:19:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 21 Jul 1999 07:04:37 GMT, Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>And the fact that Japanese society is fucked up has nothing to do with
>>either?
>
>Where do you think those destructive tendencies *come from*?!

Do you even know what I'm referring to? Because your response makes
no sense whatsoever.

Japan is a totalitarian, authoritarian, mysogenist society without
any word for "leisure" (arguably the cornerstone of civilization).
This has nothing to do with turning anger "inward". It has nothing
to do with anger at all. All of the above reasons adequately explain
Japan's horrendous suicide and alcoholism rates (I'm taking your
word on the alcoholism).

>I don't suppose it's occurred to you, since you only appear to think in
>extremes, that there's a middle road? Have you *spoken* to any non-Marxist
>psychiatrists?

I haven't spoken to any Marxist psychiatrists; none of this has anything
to do with Marxism. Suppression of anger is something pretty much *all*
psychiatrists believe in. Catharsis is just quack-talk; it isn't even
/possible/ to "release" anger at inanimate objects, anger can only be
suppressed. And suppression of anger has nothing to do with "turning it
inwards", which is just more bullshit quack-talk.

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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Encypted filesystems on /dev/loop
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:46:02 -0400

ryan wrote:

> I am trying to set up an encrypted filesystem on a file with the loop
> device.  I went to ftp.kerneli.org and got the international kernel
> crypto patch for my kernel 2.2.9 (Mandrake).
>
> After recompiling the kernel to include loopback filesystems and the
> crypt support, I created a file using the command 'dd if=/dev/zero
> of=/file bs=1k count=100'.  This works fine.
>
> Next I try 'losetup -e des /dev/loop0 /file'.  After entering a
> password, losetup prompts for 'Init (up to 16 Hex digits):'.  I try to
> enter some hex digits here, but no matter what I enter I get the
> response ']ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: invalid argument'.
>
> Has anyone tried this?  What am I doing wrong here?  Running 'dmesg'
> shows that the loop device was setup.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan T. Rhea
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Okay, I looked at my dmesg again, and like I said the loop device is
okay.  However, closer inspection reveals that in the next few lines it
the kernel reports that 2-fish and CAST 'can not reigster'.

So next I tried the kernel patch 'patch-2.210.4' from kerneli.org.  The
patch seemed to go fine, as well as the recompile.  Booting up again
I get the same to lines, 'can't register Two-fish' & 'can't register
CAST'.  The line before reports that the loop device was setup.

So this doesn't appear to be dependent on the kenel version (at least
between 2.2.9 and 2.2.10).
Everything else in the new kernel seems to work fine.  What am I doing
wrong?

Thanks again,
Ryan T. Rhea
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From: mandrakefan22 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:31:16 GMT

Hi,
I use SCO 5 at work and Mandrake Linux 5.2 & 6.0 at home and work and I 
think the difrences in the OSes are minimal. I could never get SCO to run 
on my 486 66 print server that Mandrake Linux runs just fine with 32 MB 
RAM but I would they are both better than the 6 different NT servers that 
I manage. I have yet to have a problem (in almost a year) with any of my 
Unix servers, linux or SCO. I would rather manage *ANY* version of UNIX 
over NT. The best advice I can give you is, find a copy of SCO, BSD, etc. 
on E-Bay or some where cheap and then pick up a copy of any linux flavor 
and try them out for yourself. The best way to learn is to jump right in.
Hope that helped a little.
Chris




Bob wrote:
> 
> How much different is Linux than Unix?  Are the system commands basically
> the same?  What are the major differences between the two?  Please help
> clarify this for me.  Thank you in advance.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 


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From: Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Interesting Error in startx
Date: 22 Jul 1999 06:31:12 GMT

Hi,
 I recently install SuSE 6.1 and the following error occured when trying 
to startx.
There is no link /var/X11R6/bin/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_xxxx which is the 
binary of the intalled X server.
Please link the files as mentioned above or install the X-server and run 
XF86Config again.

How can i solve the perform the link or re-install the X-server.

Please reply.

Thanks and regards.

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: 21 Jul 1999 21:58:18 -0700

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>>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Christopher> On 20 Jul 1999 17:56:02 -0400, Donovan Rebbechi
    Christopher> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    >> On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:44:00 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote:
    >>> It was the Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:03:29 +0600...  ..and U. Art
    >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    >>>> Phil Ward wrote:

    >>> At least Stallman has written non-negligible amounts of
    >>> relevant code in his life.

    >>  I'd hardly call ESR's contributions ( parts of ncurses,
    >> giflib, and fetchmail ) as well as the XFree86 video timings
    >> howto "negligeable". It's certainly not as impressive as RMS's
    >> contribution, but it's a lot better than nothing.  Look at it
    >> this way: it's pretty hard to do much with linux if you don't
    >> use ESR's software.

    Christopher> I don't use most of that stuff; in contrast, I could
    Christopher> not *possibly* use Linux without using RMS's
    Christopher> software.

    Christopher> Furthermore, ESR's contributions to code have
    Christopher> primarily been at the "refinement" level rather than
    Christopher> at the "designing from scratch" level, which tends to
    Christopher> be easier.

    Christopher> RMS appears to have "graduated" from being a
    Christopher> *prolific* coder to being rather more of a
    Christopher> politician.  (I think we'd be better off with him
    Christopher> doing more coding, but that would take far too much
    Christopher> explaining to not sound like a big slam...)

    Christopher> In contrast, ESR's "career" better reflects having
    Christopher> "graduated" from writing books to doing "politics."

I can't say that I'm an ESR groupie, but perhaps you should check his
record before ridiculing his work in public.

http://tuxedo.org/~esr/projects.html

mp

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