Linux-Misc Digest #118, Volume #25 Wed, 12 Jul 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
strip chart recorder for sound? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mp3s and MD on linux ("Chris Pringle")
Changing header info in tin (Chad Lemmen)
Re: How to reduce static libraries? (Robert Heller)
Re: Why isn't [X]Emacs a word processor? (Robert Heller)
Re: softraid problem with SuSE 6.4 and 2.2.x kernel ("Clemens Ender")
Re: Is this a good machine for the money? ("Chris Harshman")
Re: GCC (Akira Yamanita)
#Display is just too BIG (N/A)
#Display is just 2 BIG (Corel Linux) (N/A)
#Display is just too BIG (Corel Linux) (N/A)
Re: Which one to use (Rod Smith)
Re: Hot Webcams FREE - GRATIS (Robbie Pickering)
Getty, color, and the staircase effect (Andrew Purugganan)
ftponly ("Devon Harding")
The search for the Linux / ANSI gfx holy grail ("Jai ixnay")
Re: Installing Gnome from cdrom RH6.2 ("Nikola Pizurica")
Re: Getty, color, and the staircase effect (Vilmos Soti)
Re: #Display is just too BIG (Jim)
Re: Kernel too big (brian moore)
Re: Mp3s and MD on linux (J Bland)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: strip chart recorder for sound?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:27:35 GMT
Does anyone know of a strip chart recorder for linux? Ineed something to
listen to my soundcard or a WAV file and give me a strip chart of the signal
strength in either a graphical plot or numbers. A fourier transform would
work well also, but unfortunately all the FFT programs I have found only
display to screen and not to a file. Any ideas? I'm trying to setup a radio
monitor for solar flares and SIDs..
Aaron Price, Technical Assistant, UNIX, CGI.
American Association of Variable Star Observers
http://www.aavso.org
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From: "Chris Pringle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mp3s and MD on linux
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:29:51 +0100
Does anyone know of an mp3 player/encoder for linux, that allows you to
create playlists, and leaves a user definable gap so you can record
minidisks from mp3's. Please can all replies be "cc"'d to me. Thanks in
advance
Regards
Chris Pringle
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From: Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing header info in tin
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:05:33 -0400
I'm using tin for my newsreader and I want to be able to change my name
and email address. I don't want the username and email address on the
user on the Linux machine to show up in the header. Is there a way to
specify what I want them to be? I know I can set the variable REPLYTO,
but I also want to change the user email address thats in the header.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reduce static libraries?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:55:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Wed, 12 Jul 2000 01:40:09 GMT, wrote :
k> Hi ,advancer:
k> I had been use more than 5 days to work about this question :
k>
k> hope can find (or write) a program
k> to remove some binary code form
k> static library which the OS(linux)'s
k> program not used ,to reduce the size of linux.
k>
k> the gzip, strip had been used, but I hope to make it smaller.
k>
k> u can use nm libc.a ,u will find there are many *.o's group
k> when my system is embedded in some chip or rom , some
k> *.o in libc.a or other *.a will not used in the future.
k>
k> At this kind of situation,we can remove them use ar -d XXX.o XX.a
k> to reduce the static library.
k>
k> There is a news ab
When you build a turnkey, embedded system, you probably won't have ANY
libxxx.a files at all -- you only need the libxxx.a files when you
statically link programs. Once the program in question has been
linked, the libxxx.a file is no longer needed. Most likely you will
*cross*-build a turnkey, embedded system -- the libxxx.a files used
will be on the system you use to build (full normal Linux) and you will
only copy the executables to the turnkey, embedded system's disk image
or to ROM or whatever.
*Most* linux programs are linked to *shared* libraries (libxxx.so).
k>
k>
k> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
k> Before you buy.
k>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why isn't [X]Emacs a word processor?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:55:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on 11 Jul 2000 21:00:29 -0700, wrote :
U> David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
U>
U> > You can edit text, shred text, do all sorts of unspeakable things to
U> > text, just like a food processor does to food. So why isn't XEmacs
U> > and its older, estranged brother considered a word processor?
U> >
U> > If it is because they lack the WYSIWYG feature, then why was Word Star
U> > called a wordprocessor when it first came out? Or Word Perfect for
U> > that matter?
U> >
U> > Just a shallow thought for the day ;-)
U> >
U> ...<snip>...
U> and my shallow reply of the day is...
U>
U> I don't know everything that can be done with [X]Emacs so I
U> could be wrong here (I'm actually using emacs in the form of gnus to
U> reply to your post), but in a sense emacs is WYSIWYG, what you see is
U> what you get if you print. You don't get bold or italics or various
U> fonts or support for footnoting, outline structures or anything like
U> that, (unless those are features of emacs I'm not aware of, one could
U> probably write macro packages to do some of those things). The
U> first word processor I used extensively was STWriter for the Atari ST
U> though I'd used many text editors before that (including one my
U> brother wrote over a weekend for a homebrew intel 8080 system). What
U> I use now is TeX, which is, of course, not WYSIWYG but is a word
U> processor. So, WYSIWYGness is not equivalent to word processing.
The definition of the term "Word Processing" has changed over the
years. In the "old days" of daisy wheel / golf ball / 9-pin printers,
which were all single mono-spaced font, non graphical printers,
[X]Emacs (and its precursors, ed and teco), would have been quite
properly considered WYSIWYG "Word Processors", although the term did
not really exist as such. At this time (with 300dpi and higher
graphical printers) "Word Processing" basicly means what MS-Word does
-- MS-Word is a WYSIWYG editor / document preparation system. MS-Word
edits AND formats documents. [X]Emacs only edits text files. [X]Emacs
does not do all of the things "Word Processing" has come to mean.
LaTeX does everything MS-Word does (and more), except 'edit'. LaTeX is
a "Documentation Preparation System", but it is not a WYSIWYG "Word
Processor". [X]Emacs + ispell + LaTeX will produce, *as a final
output*, documents of much the same sort as MS-Word (multiple *variable
spaced* fonts, embedded graphics, etc.) except that the file you edit
with [X]Emacs (eg foo.tex), won't look (on the screen) anything like what
it will look once you have fed it through LaTeX and dviXXX and sent it
off to your printer.
U>
U> ---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address ----
U>
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From: "Clemens Ender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: softraid problem with SuSE 6.4 and 2.2.x kernel
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:49:03 +0200
> >
> > you are using the kernel portion of raid version 0.4 with raidtools
> > 0.9. It does not fit. I'd suggest patching your kernel to raid
> > 0.9. You can find the patches somewhere on the redhat server.
>
> you can find them here
> http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-patches/
>
thnx a lot !
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From: "Chris Harshman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Is this a good machine for the money?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:08:14 -0700
VA builds good boxes. I've worked on them from afar, and I've recommended
them for a major initiative we're about to launch. Some of the things they
do to tweak the software package installed is brilliant to the point of
"Duh!" (as in, "why didn't *I* think of that?!).
$855 isn't bad. You could probably build it yourself for that much, but the
headache factor would be considerably greater. (I lived on a Linux
shoestring for a long time, building and rebuilding Celerons, P166MMX's,
etc. It was fun when it was the only option. Now that I have the ability
to simply order systems, guess what I do?)
Chris
"David Steuber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A rather lengthy URL to the VA Linux 420 follows:
>
>
http://www.valinux.com/systems/configure/index.html?SELECT_2=3&SELECT_3=11&S
ELECT_4=17&SELECT_5=24&SELECT_6=26&SELECT_7=None&SELECT_8=None&SELECT_9=None
&SELECT_10=None&SELECT_11=None&SELECT_12=None&SELECT_13=43&SELECT_14=None&SE
LECT_15=45&Model=420&ANCHOR=-1&db=2&id=26729&MODEL_LOADED=1&Last_Function=0&
max_anchor=15&EndConfig2=1&FINAL_CHECK.x=80&FINAL_CHECK.y=28
>
> I'm looking to use this machine as a low end server rather than a
> workstation, but the servers are out of my pricerange. This box seems
> reasonable at $855. Don't know yet what shipping would bring it up
> to.
>
> Has anyone got any experience with VA Linux?
>
> --
> David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
> NRA Member | a hoploholic.
>
> The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
> --- Devon Miller
>
> The ``From'' address is a valid e-mail address.
>
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look
+it+up
>
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GCC
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:29:08 GMT
micromans wrote:
>
> What is the "...devel..." package and where do I get it?
>
> Mark M.
egcs-devel-some_version_number.i386.rpm
It's on the CD or get it from a RedHat mirror.
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: #Display is just too BIG
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:30:09 GMT
I have finally been able to log into my linux desktop and when I do my
Display is too large. I am unable to see my full programs and Windows on
my Desktop because everything is too large. How do i adjust my display
settings so that the screen display fits my monitor size and doesnt extend
beyond my monitor barriers? Thanks.
--
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: #Display is just 2 BIG (Corel Linux)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:30:09 GMT
I have finally been able to log into my linux desktop and when I do my
Display is too large. I am unable to see my full programs and Windows on
my Desktop because everything is too large. How do i adjust my display
settings so that the screen display fits my monitor size and doesnt extend
beyond my monitor barriers? Thanks a whole lot.
--
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: #Display is just too BIG (Corel Linux)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:30:09 GMT
I have finally been able to log into my linux desktop and when I do my
Display is too large. I am unable to see my full programs and Windows on
my Desktop because everything is too large. How do i adjust my display
settings so that the screen display fits my monitor size and doesnt extend
beyond my monitor barriers? Thanx.
--
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Which one to use
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:38:14 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <X62b5.27587$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"conduit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, I am looking to re-experience installing
> linux on my computer.
> After two years i think it is time to try
> a different distribution. I am looking at either
> Slack
> SuSE or
> Debian.
Check my web page on distributions:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
It includes information on SuSE, Debian, and others, but not Slackware
(I've not used Slackware in years).
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robbie Pickering)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Hot Webcams FREE - GRATIS
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:44:07 +0200
ghgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sexo Gratis - Free Sex
Come on. These are Linux groups. No one here is interested in sex.
Apart from that, if you ever spam here again, you can start looking for
a new ISP.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Getty, color, and the staircase effect
Date: 12 Jul 2000 22:15:30 GMT
Hey I managed to hook up my handheld PC (H/PC) to my Lin box using the
serial port, and I can now log in and work with my fave OS.
Here are my questions though
1) How do I get rid of the staircase effect that happens on SOME commands?
2) The color that appears in say ls only add extraneous characters to
thte output instead of coming out in color. I dont really need color in
this case, but I'd be happy without those characters. What's the trick?
Thanks for any info
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: "Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: ftponly
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:01:55 -0400
Where is the site to setup the ftponly script?
-Devon
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From: "Jai ixnay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs
Subject: The search for the Linux / ANSI gfx holy grail
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:04:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, first of all to clear up any confusion, when I speak
of ANSI graphics or just 'ANSI', I am referring to the
extended IBM character set (ala DOS ansi.sys), paired with
the appropriate fonts. This sort of 'ANSI' (I realize the
term is, strictly speaking, wrong) is the basis for 101 dos/
amiga BBS systems, and is used to make all manner of very
funky art / banners / etc on those BBSes.
There are two standard answers to the question I am asking:
(a) use Eterm & a vga font, (b) use minicom. Both are
valid answers. But I'm looking for another answer: ANSI
graphics _on_the_console_, without using minicom. Many
people say it just cannot be done, but I feel they are
just wrong. In fact, I KNOW they are wrong now.
Last night I was thinking about this. BitchX and a few other
curses programs have the ability to display IBM ANSI properly
on the console. You start BitchX, you get a nice ANSI banner..
but then you exit and it's back to screwed up interpretations.
I started experimenting. In one virtual console I kept doing
a "cat pandur.ans" (pandur.ans being an ANSI that comes with
BitchX). In another I kept playing around with setfont, setterm,
tset, etc.
At some point, after issuing the five hundredth setfont command
of the night, I flipped back - and there was pandur.ans in all
it's glory. It was already on the screen and had previously been
all screwed up, but one of the commands I issued, or some
combination, (or maybe some unrelated strange fluke) must have
been the magic one - cause now all the garbage characters were
replaced by the graphics they were supposed to be.
I used plain old telnet to connect to a bbs that is heavy on the
ANSI art - and it worked great. I could not believe my eyes, as
I've been trying to get real ANSI out of the console for ages
now. Tried another bbs, everything fine. Awesome.
Eventually I did a reboot. This morning I tried to repeat the
magic I pulled off last night - BUT, no luck.
I actually don't think it has to do with the fonts themselves so
much - several fonts worked with the ANSI last night, and some of
the same ones aren't working today. I believe that the console
is turning the extended (high ascii) characters into garbage
now. But today no amount of setterm's or tset's or export
TERM="blah" seems to want to kick it back into whatever mode
I coaxed it into last night.
PLEASE, if someone out there is already way ahead of me on this,
or if someone is knowledgeable about the linux terminal and the
ANSI graphics I'm speaking of, HELP! I believe I have managed
this same feat before, back when I first starting toying with
linux - however it has always been a fluke, some unknown black
magic due to trying 10,000 different things, that has made it
happen.
I want to find a clear explanation of how to change the
console mode like this, both for myself and for the many
other people who are frustrated by the same problem.
I have asked questions about this since I began playing with
linux two years ago, but generally it seems most nix folks
are uninterested because of the 'non-standard' and incompatible
nature of bbs-style ANSI. However there are still many ANSI
bbses out there on the internet, a fair amount of ANSI art
being made. And I think that there are an increasing number
of BBS-scene expatriates out there who have migrated to Linux,
want very badly to get 'proper' ANSI graphics in the standard
console.. but have no idea how.
-jai
my apologies if the crossposting is excessive, but this is
important to me and I've not had much luck in the past.
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From: "Nikola Pizurica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Gnome from cdrom RH6.2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:25:27 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David .."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.helixcode.com
>
Helix Gnome rocks.... Great stuff, easy to install,
easier to upgrade.....
Nikola
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Subject: Re: Getty, color, and the staircase effect
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:21:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:
> 1) How do I get rid of the staircase effect that happens on SOME commands?
This is a bit unclear for me. Could you elaborate a bit more on this?
What commands create staircase effect? Is this staircase effect related
in any way to the printer staircase effect?
> 2) The color that appears in say ls only add extraneous characters to
> thte output instead of coming out in color. I dont really need color in
> this case, but I'd be happy without those characters. What's the trick?
do an "alias ls". This should show that ls is aliased. To turn it off
do an "unalias ls".
Vilmos
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: #Display is just too BIG
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:21:23 +0200
At the command prompt issue the following command:
xf86config
This will take you thru a process to determine your appropriate settings
for your hardware, i.e., keyboard, mouse, monitor, graphics card and terminal
settings. When asked if you wish to use virtual terminals answer no.
Jim
N/A wrote:
> I have finally been able to log into my linux desktop and when I do my
> Display is too large. I am unable to see my full programs and Windows on
> my Desktop because everything is too large. How do i adjust my display
> settings so that the screen display fits my monitor size and doesnt extend
> beyond my monitor barriers? Thanks.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: 12 Jul 2000 23:58:51 GMT
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 01:00:06 GMT,
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
>
> ' The reason you don't see this on IRIX is because MIPS machines aren't
> ' trying to be compatible with 1979 technology, while PC's are.
>
> I seem to recall the 8088 being around in 1977. Is that just an
> illusion, or is it memorex?
Could be, though I recall reading the "wow, look at this new chip from
Intel" article in DDJ in I think 1979. (As I recall I started my
subscription to DDJ in Feb of '78, back when DDJ was published by
'People's Computers', a non profit organization... so I don't think it
would be before then.)
But, dammit, now you're making me feel old.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: Mp3s and MD on linux
Date: 12 Jul 2000 23:17:27 GMT
>Does anyone know of an mp3 player/encoder for linux, that allows you to
>create playlists, and leaves a user definable gap so you can record
>minidisks from mp3's. Please can all replies be "cc"'d to me. Thanks in
xmms definitely does both (for use on X). I would assume that mpg123 does also
(for use from a CLI).
Frinky
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