Linux-Misc Digest #239, Volume #21 Sun, 1 Aug 99 02:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: X: monitor resolution settings (Leonard Evens)
Re: What I think of linux. ("D. King")
Re: Quicktime (Coy A Hile)
Re: NFS problems (Leonard Evens)
Re: Perl Help (Leonard Evens)
Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed) (Christopher B. Browne)
Lilo, I just erased it and I want it back!!! ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
zombie processes (Yap Chen Kuang)
Re: zombie processes (Paul Kimoto)
Re: IDE vs scsi? ("Duy D.")
Re: What I think of linux. (alann)
change system mailbox/procmail (Rico Dreier)
Re: LUG in LONDON (Wine Development)
Looking for modern xterm replacement (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Re: Netscape Navigator - what platform for Red Hat 6.0? ("R.K.Aa")
Shutdown Errors RH 6.0 (Gordon)
Re: Lilo, I just erased it and I want it back!!! (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Newbie questions (Peter Englmaier)
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: X: monitor resolution settings
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:28:12 -0500
John Brashier wrote:
>
> I am running Xfree86 on a Sony Multiscan 520GS. In setup, I checked
> about six different pixel sizes and resolutions, in the belief I could
> choose
> among them depending upon the application. I cannot seem to find the
> command line to do this choosing, nor the option under the X
> control-panel. I know its something simple, right?
> I welcome suggestions.
> John
I assume you are talking about what you chose when running
Xconfigurator (or a substitute). That normally gives you
several choices for 8 bit color, several for 16 bit color,
etc. I believe that only the choices for the highest
color depth apply. But you can switch among those by
Ctrl Alt + and Ctrl Alt -. You may get a blank screen
as you cycle through, but keep going.
I've done this before but I seldom found any reason to use
anything but the highest resolution I could use.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "D. King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:18:02 -0400
"Heeeeeeeez back!" wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc alann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You're right, somewhat. I would be curious as to the average age of Linux
> > users. I'm 34. First computer I ever had my hands on was a Commodore PET.
> > That was a LONG time ago. Right now there are a gazillion Windows users.
>
> 32. First computer man-handled by me? TRS-80 Model 2.
> First computer owned by me... ZX SPectrum.
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
> | Andrew Halliwell BSc | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
> | in | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
> | Computer Science | - Father Jack in "Father Ted" |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
> |PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
First computer....Commodore VIC20...programmed games for kids and made 3K and 8K
memory boards...wirewrapped...try that sometimes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: Quicktime
Date: 31 Jul 1999 22:20:24 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Grimm wrote:
>
>> Is there a Quicktime compatible program for Linux? Oh! Right! Apple
>> holds their tech close so nobody can copy it. They have to right one.
>> Does anybody know an email address that I (and everyone else) could send
>> a request for the Linux version to?
>
Actually, xanim, (http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/) does that quite nicely. I
do not know yet if there is codec support for quicktime 4; but it works fine
with quicktime 3.
Coy
--
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS problems
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:07:00 -0500
"R. Jackson" wrote:
>
> I'm trying to share a cdrom between two RH5.2 boxes using NFS. I've set
> everything up right according to the NFS HOWTO, but when I try to mount
> the cdrom on the machine I'm sharing it with I get the message 'mount:
> RPC: program not registered'. I've exported the shares on the machine
> with the CD-ROM, so that's not it. There appears to be nothing wrong on
> the box with the cd-rom, so I think it is a problem with the other box.
> Anyone out there who knows what's going on?
> --
> What a misfortune to be a woman! And yet, the worst misfortune is not
> to
> understand what a misfortune it is.
> -- Kierkegaard, 1813-1855.
Can you mount other file systems. I would guess either you
haven't given permission for mounting in /etc/hosts.allow
or you haven't installed and/or started the mount and nfs
daemons.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Perl Help
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:04:54 -0500
Scott Galloway wrote:
>
> I'm trying to replace every newline in a linux file by a ctrl-M
> (change it to a dos text file). I've tried:
>
> perl -n -e 'print; print "\r";' <file> > <newfile>
>
> but the the first print prints each whole line, including the \n
> which I would like to remove from each line. Does anyone
> know of an easy way to do this? Thanks kindly,
>
> Scott
Use chomp.
But a DOS text file has both a \r and a \n.
Try the following script. (My Perl scripts never work, so you may
have to fiddle.) Call the file to_dos, say.
#!/usr/bin/perl
while ($line = <>){
chomp $line;
print "$line\r\n";
}
Then you can do the conversion by
to_dos < infile > outfile.
If you want it to be fancier so you don't have to do redirection,
study how to use perl to read arguments from the command line,
how to open a file and read input from it, etc.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Magic SysRq (was Re: Linux has finally crashed)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:31:00 GMT
On 31 Jul 1999 21:20:24 GMT, William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:26:36 GMT,
>Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Is anybody up for designing FreeMVS? It seems a real pity to let the
>>>era of mainframe machines slip away to big backroom servers that only
>>>grizzled COBOL programmers get to use.... ;)
>>
>>The more proper goal is to have the PC's on the desks be powerful
>>enough to do a *bit* of transaction management, and marshall up blocks
>>of data to be submitted asynchronously en masse to servers upstream.
>
>Ahh... the mainframe world is a whole different experience that goes
>just beyond blocking IO. The mysteries of JCL, the everything runs as
>batch including your interactive session, the POSIX interface layered
>on top.... :)
Sure, it's different.
It's *ICKY* different.
There is a "free RPG" project out there that might be of small
significance; see <http://rpg.netpedia.net/>.
I think it would be wiser to try to apply some "Unix Philosophy" to it
so as to not be forced into *all* the ickiness...
>Getting IBM to escrow their source code such that it becomes BSD
>licensed in case they go under from Y2K embattlement would be neat. :)
Despite Microsoft making a run on competent lawyers, I suspect that
IBM is likely better equipped to defend than the would-be suers will
be to attack. Lots of bad jokes available...
--
"Applicants must have *at least* five years experience with Windows
98..."
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Lilo, I just erased it and I want it back!!!
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:35:17 -0400
Well, I did something stupid, I accidentally erased Lilo from my main SCSI
drive when I was trying to erase Lilo on another removable drive. I tried
booting from my floppy with the boot disk with no luck. How do I restore
Lilo again? I don't want to reload Linux again if I don't have to. Thanks.
Ed
BTW>Is it possible to boot Win98, Linux, or NT4 with Lilo on the same
machine?
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From: Yap Chen Kuang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: zombie processes
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:14:34 +0800
How do I kill zombies and other such processes
I've tried kill -9 and kill -15 even kill -HUP -STOP -ABORT etc.
I don't want to keep rebooting.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: zombie processes
Date: 31 Jul 1999 23:50:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yap Chen Kuang wrote:
> How do I kill zombies and other such processes
> I've tried kill -9 and kill -15 even kill -HUP -STOP -ABORT etc.
> I don't want to keep rebooting.
Why do you _want_ to kill them? All they do is occupy spots in the process
table. There is no reason to worry (or reboot) unless the process table is
getting filled up.
You prevent zombies by getting their parent processes to wait on their exit
statuses. You can get rid of them by killing their parents (which causes
init to wait on the exit status instead; init should always do the right
thing).
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE vs scsi?
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:13:24 +0000
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duy D. wrote:
> >I'm considering to buy a scsi disk to install Linux on. When i do
> >hdparm -t /dev/hda on my ide disk, it reads about 15 mb/s most of the
> >time. Can somebody give me a number on the fastest scsi disk? Thanks.
>
>
> Seems a bit high to me (disk cache perhaps), but okay.
I don't think so because if I don't set -c 1 and -d 1 flags, it drops to
about 6 mb/s.
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From: alann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:17:48 -0400
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, D. King wrote:
>"Heeeeeeeez back!" wrote:
>
>> In comp.os.linux.misc alann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > You're right, somewhat. I would be curious as to the average age of Linux
>> > users. I'm 34. First computer I ever had my hands on was a Commodore PET.
>> > That was a LONG time ago. Right now there are a gazillion Windows users.
>>
>> 32. First computer man-handled by me? TRS-80 Model 2.
>> First computer owned by me... ZX SPectrum.
>>
>> --
>> ______________________________________________________________________________
>> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
>> | Andrew Halliwell BSc | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
>> | in | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
>> | Computer Science | - Father Jack in "Father Ted" |
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> |GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
>> |PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>First computer....Commodore VIC20...programmed games for kids and made 3K and 8K
>memory boards...wirewrapped...try that sometimes
Wirerapping was a "great"? thing. I'm a tv broadcast engineer by trade..
There are a number of companies that make "cg"'s (( character generators ))..
Chyron is the main stream.. When I first started at my station 13 years ago,
we had something called Telemation.. Bell@Howell stuff.. Then we bought a
Chyron IV ( 4)... ALL the boards in this thing were wirewrapped.. Many ( just
about all ) TV stations in the 80's used Chyron IV's.. It came with 8" floppies.
Yea..
Number of times I had to troubleshoot that crap.. AARGH.
Glad not to see ANY WIREWRAP in the last 8 years or so.,
!!!
Now you can do it on a PC... THERE IS A GOD!
and it AIN't uncle Bill. ( gates )
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From: Rico Dreier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: change system mailbox/procmail
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 06:12:45 +0200
Hello,
the standard system mailbox (linux redhat) is /var/spool/mail.
If procmail is used and this location is changed then the
mails are deliverd to this new location - fine. But the mail
clients (e.g. netscape) don't search at this new location,
but still in /var/spool/mail.
Is there a standard solution?
Thx.
Rico
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From: Wine Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LUG in LONDON
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:37:14 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a Linux Users Group in London , UK ?
> A sedentary life, as I have already said elsewhere, is the real sin against the Holy
>Ghost.
> -Nietzsche
try www.ukuug.org for general info on LUGs in the UK.
--
Keith Matthews Spam trap - my real account at this
node is keith_m
Frequentous Consultants - Linux Services,
Oracle development & database administration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Subject: Looking for modern xterm replacement
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:38:06 GMT
I'd been running Redhat 5.0 with their Triteal CDE. I've upgraded to
Redhat 6.0, and I'm generally satisfied.
But I don't much care for the Gnome terminal program. It's little
improvement over xterm, and I'd gotten used to CDE's dterm.
What I particularly miss is the ability to use the clipboard, instead
of the selection.
Does anybody know of a Linux xterm replacement that actually supports
cut and paste?
By this, I don't mean the old xterm ability to select with the left mouse,
and the click the right mouse to paste what was selected. I need something
that will allow me to save what was selected, to be pasted later, even
if the window I selected from has been closed.
Preferably this would be something that I could do entirely from the
keyboard. (I use the mouse and keyboard with equal facility, but I
really hate being forced to switch back and forth,)
Any ideas?
--
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple system that worked ...A complex system designed from scratch never
works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over,
beginning with a working simple system.
-- Grady Booch
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Navigator - what platform for Red Hat 6.0?
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 05:12:48 +0200
Gerald Willmann wrote:
>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, R.K.Aa wrote:
> > Looks like an odd "alternative"..some typo. But if v. 4.61 is still the
> > latest, why not install the rpm's? If you want to compile from source,
> > src files are also available as rpm.
>
> why odd or typo - it's simply glibc vs. libc5
Picky aren't we.. "Linux 2.0" versus "Linux 2.0" could have been
expressed somewhat clearer.
> didn't know that netscape 4 was available as
> source - could you provide an URL
Redhat ftp-site and mirrors have a 24285 Kb. file that looks like
sources. I haven't checked the contents.
ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/linux/redhat-updates/6.0/SRPMS/netscape-4.6-1.src.rpm
K.
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From: Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Shutdown Errors RH 6.0
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:30:38 GMT
Newbie here. I've installed RH 6.0 custom, server,& workstation. Each
install acts the same at shutdown. I will see...System Halted, Stopping MD
Devices, and Power down. After that I get some sort of dump to the
screen...lots of hex and a mesg that the kernal cannot page to a virtual
address. (the address is always the same). The mother board has all the APM
turned off and I removed the apm package from installation. Any help will
be appreciated.
Thanks, Gordon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Lilo, I just erased it and I want it back!!!
Date: 1 Aug 1999 05:38:51 GMT
In article <7o0bof$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"
wrote:
>Well, I did something stupid, I accidentally erased Lilo from my main SCSI
>drive when I was trying to erase Lilo on another removable drive. I tried
>booting from my floppy with the boot disk with no luck.
There are many different boot disks. The installation floppies that
come with Red Hat, SuSE, Debian, and Slackware will, by default,
boot into a little ramdisk-resident mini-Linux system, where you can
get a shell (by exploring the menus in the install program, or
switching to another console with Alt-F2) and run the command
fdisk -l
which will reveal your partition tables on the drives the install kernel
recognized. Use that to remember on which partition you installed
your root file system.
>How do I restore Lilo again?
Then reboot the machine, and this time
when you get the loader prompt (it's usually Syslinux or LILO)
invoke the kernel with a command line option to mount *your* root
instead of the ramdisk root. Supposing your root filesystem is /dev/sda2,
then at the loader prompt the command
linux root=/dev/sda2
should boot the system you are used to seeing. Once it is up you can
look at /etc/lilo.conf and if it says what you want run
lilo
and your bootloader will be reinstalled good as new.
> I don't want to reload Linux again if I don't have to. Thanks.
You shouldn't have to do that for a long, long time.
>BTW>Is it possible to boot Win98, Linux, or NT4 with Lilo on the same
>machine?
I have heard it both ways about NT. Everyone I know who has NT4
and Linux on the same computer uses the NT boot loader.
I have Windows 98 on /dev/hda1 of one of my office machines (SuSE 6.0
on the same drive, nice) and I launch it with LILO.
I believe Windows 98 has a boot loader menu which can launch other
operating systems. MS-DOS 6.22 had one. But I don't know how to
find it or use it.
Cameron
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From: Peter Englmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie questions
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 00:46:19 -0400
> 1. Is there any way of configuring Linux to automatically mount the
> cdrom when you insert a cd into the drive and unmount it when I remove
> the cdrom? I noticed that if I mount the cdrom manually I can't open the
> drive door until I unmount it again. Is there anyway to automate this?
Try 'autofs', there shoud be an RPM file on your CD. Edit the two files
/etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.misc to suit your needs. It should come
with an example, and it is pretty easy. You can automount all sorts of
things.
There is another tool 'automount', which is also nice. But I prefer
autofs.
> 2. I am trying to upgrade from Netscape 4.51 to 4.6 but when I try to
> run the install file I get a message saying "Can only start executables
> on local drive"? I've tried placing the installtion files in various
> places and try to run the install file but still get the same message.
> This happens whether I am logged in as root or as a normal user.
How do you do that? Isn't it an RPM file? If yes, try something like
rpm -Uvh netscape-whatever-.rpm ... [you can give more rpm's]
> 3. With Netscape 4.51, I am not getting any colour icons / symbols -
> everything is grey on netscape. Is this normal or is there a setting I
> can change. I don't have colour problems with the rest of my desktop or
> other applications.
Maybe you need to use the flag '-install' when running netscape. This
is because some videocards do not have enough memory to display so many
colors (8bit-video). However, more likely you need to set
'DefaultColorDepth 16'
or some higher value, if your card supports it. For some reason the
default
is 8 bit. You can do that in
the 'XF86Config' file. In Redhat it is in /etc/X11/XF86Config, but
in Suse it might by somewhere else (try: 'locate XF86Config' to find
it).
You need to restart the X-server for the change to take effect (logging
out of your X-session might not work; if you don't know how, reboot.
There should be an option to restart the X server on the graphic
login prompt.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
Send the money to your local amnesty office.
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