Linux-Misc Digest #239, Volume #24 Sun, 23 Apr 00 12:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: HOT HD (Alain le Sage)
How to patch for ATA66 /Slack 7 ? (Ron Gibson)
Re: Those distributions are stupid (Paul Seelig)
RedHat 6.2 Installation probs (Soteropoulos Demetris)
Re: linux programs, tools and functionality for windows? ("Peter Hutchison")
Re: Help installing "d" disk series for Slackware ("Peter Hutchison")
Re: How to patch for ATA66 /Slack 7 ? (misfit)
Re: xmms problem (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: HOT HD (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: bash_profile setting (Dave Brown)
Re: Can't boot Linux from hard disk ("RJS")
Re: HOT HD (ostracus)
Re: Those distributions are stupid (Rainer Weikusat)
Re: HOT HD ("Gene Heskett")
core dumps (or the lack of them) (Stephen Charlton)
Re: HOT HD ("Jim Gilmore")
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From: Alain le Sage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: HOT HD
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:00:39 -0100
Edward M Grill wrote:
> Dearest PC users,
>
> I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
> under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
> 450Mhz. I have successfully overclocked the CPU to 550 and a little more,
> currently only at 450 because I am afraid of a situation. even at 450mhz the
> HD is EXTREMELY hot on its underside. I don't have a thermometer, but I
> can't keep my hand on the underside long.....it seems the heat is
> concentrated on some controller on the underside of the HD, a small chip,
> maybe controls DSP?
> anyways, is this Hotness and high temp common? if not, why is it so,
> suggestions? how can I change it, a case fan? I am curious because I don't
> want corrupted data if I end up overclocking....which I know is risky
> anyhow. just wondering if this heat is a uncommon characteristic of HD's.
>
> eddie
>
> --
> *********************************
> SUNYAB CSE major
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "beware of the penguin....."
> (remove lma_ to reply)
> **********************************
Hi,
if you have multiple hd's or a fd under your harddisk, remove it and place it
as far away from the hd as possible. I also have a 7200rpm disk (WD) which is
extremely hot, but giving it some space really helps. If the disk still is too
hot, try placing a hd-fan under it (approx $20).
With kind regards,
Alain le Sage
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: How to patch for ATA66 /Slack 7 ?
Date: 23 Apr 2000 13:43:39 GMT
My memory has failed me and they seem to have changed "patch".
On patching the kernel with Hedrick's ide patch for ATA66 controllers, I
can't get it to work as apparently I've forgotten the syntax or else
something has changed in going from Slackware 4 to 7.
In any event, I have the archive for the patch I want to apply to kernel
2.2.14. Since I couldn't start with a fresh kernel source, I simply
copied my old tree into /usr/src/ and compiled again.
But anyway, can someone tell me the correct syntax for patching the
kernel tree and what directory to place the patch in. All my attempts
end in "What do you want to patch" or something similar.
Thanx...
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 56576008
Home Page: http://home.netcom.com/~rgibson/index.htm
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From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ch.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Those distributions are stupid
Date: 23 Apr 2000 16:00:53 +0200
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From: Soteropoulos Demetris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 Installation probs
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:21:09 +0300
Hi I'm relatively new to linux , and I've been trying to install redhat
6.2 on my laptop...everything starts up ok BUT when it comes to
checking the module dependencies on start-up it says something like
'Detecting sound module (maestro)' and then just stalls and nothing
responds not even the keyboard...My friend has exactly the same comp. as
me and had no probs in the installation......
Does anyone have any clues??
Thank you for your time
Demetris
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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux programs, tools and functionality for windows?
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:59:35 +0100
SAP User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8dkhou$g35$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi there,
>
> due to a job change I have to work with windows instead of linux :-(((
>
> Are there any sites of information about programs for windows which
provide
> some of the functionality of a nice linux system?
>
> For example:
> * bash
AFAIK, there is only Doskey which allows for command history, editing and
macros. Limted filename completion tho
> * emacs
I am sure there are some Win equivalent files around.,
> * Hacks for the desktop to provide an extended functionality like in most
of
> the linux window managers
Windows doesn`t give much scope for hacks. What hacks are you after?
> * copy and paste like in X (without Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V)
Well Copy and Paste is available in explorer via the icons on toolbar and if
you select files you can press right mouse
button to copy, cut and paste.
For more software files try:
http://www.tucows.com
http://www.shareware.com
http://www.download.com
http://www.simtel.com
http://www.zdnet.com
Peter
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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help installing "d" disk series for Slackware
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:11:12 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8dksmo$2iq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear group,
>
> I just installed Slackware with all the basic utilities and I now want
> to install the "d" development tools disk. As you know, it has make,
> perl, compilers, etc.
>
> I am in this catch-22 after much reading and surfing:
>
> I downloaded the "d" disk files to my HD.
> I cannot seem to install anything because I don't have "make" or any
> "compilers". My question is, how do I install "make" and a C compiler
> without having "make" and a C compiler. I read ALL the INSTALLs and
> READMEs. Please help. Do I need to get a precompiled binary of a
> compiler to do the install ??
> Please don't flame me, I'm new at this and I don't go running to
> newsgroups unless I've done my own research !
> thanks in advance,
Make and C compiler in Linux is usually GCC (GNC C Compiler), you need to
install the binaries to have access to them. You will only need them if you
only
have access to source files to make them into binaries.
Check for files on the CD such as:
ecgs-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
ecgs-c++-1.1.2-12.i386.rpm
Should help to get C/C++ compiler installed
Peter
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From: misfit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: How to patch for ATA66 /Slack 7 ?
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:37:08 GMT
Ron Gibson wrote:
>
> My memory has failed me and they seem to have changed "patch".
>
> On patching the kernel with Hedrick's ide patch for ATA66 controllers, I
> can't get it to work as apparently I've forgotten the syntax or else
> something has changed in going from Slackware 4 to 7.
>
> In any event, I have the archive for the patch I want to apply to kernel
> 2.2.14. Since I couldn't start with a fresh kernel source, I simply
> copied my old tree into /usr/src/ and compiled again.
>
> But anyway, can someone tell me the correct syntax for patching the
> kernel tree and what directory to place the patch in. All my attempts
> end in "What do you want to patch" or something similar.
>
> Thanx...
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 56576008
> Home Page: http://home.netcom.com/~rgibson/index.htm
>
from the kernel HOWTO...
5.1 Applying a patch
Incremental upgrades of the kernel are distributed as patches. For
example, if you have
version 1.1.45, and you notice that there's a `patch46.gz' out there for
it, it means you can
upgrade to version 1.1.46 through application of the patch. You might
want to make a backup
of the source tree first (`make clean' and then `cd /usr/src; tar zcvf
old-tree.tar.gz linux' will make a compressed tar archive for you.).
So, continuing with the example above, let's suppose that you have
`patch46.gz' in
/usr/src. cd to /usr/src and do a `zcat patch46.gz | patch -p0' (or
`patch -p0 <
patch46' if the patch isn't compressed). You'll see things whizz by (or
flutter by, if your
system is that slow) telling you that it is trying to apply hunks, and
whether it succeeds or not.
Usually, this action goes by too quickly for you to read, and you're not
too sure whether it
worked or not, so you might want to use the -s flag to patch, which
tells patch to only report
error messages (you don't get as much of the ``hey, my computer is
actually doing
something for a change!'' feeling, but you may prefer this..). To look
for parts which might not
have gone smoothly, cd to /usr/src/linux and look for files with a .rej
extension. Some
versions of patch (older versions which may have been compiled with on
an inferior
filesystem) leave the rejects with a # extension. You can use `find' to
look for you;
find . -name '*.rej' -print
prints all files who live in the current directory or any subdirectories
with a .rej extension to
the standard output.
If everything went right, do a `make clean', `config', and `dep' as
described in sections 3
and 4.
There are quite a few options to the patch command. As mentioned above,
patch -s will
suppress all messages except the errors. If you keep your kernel source
in some other place
than /usr/src/linux, patch -p1 (in that directory) will patch things
cleanly. Other patch
options are well-documented in the manual page.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: xmms problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:48:32 GMT
On 22 Apr 2000 22:19:21 GMT, Chetan Ahuja wrote:
> Well...Maybe you're right. I tried freeamp and still getting the
> same problems. Since my soundchip is on the motherboard, and no way
> in the BIOS to change it's configuration, I'm not
> sure if there's a way for me to remove the IRQ conflict short of
> opening the computer and changing the PCI slot of the card??
Onboard devices typically have a section in the BIOS where you can change
their configuration.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: HOT HD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:51:32 GMT
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:59:58 -0400, Edward M Grill wrote:
> I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
>under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
>450Mhz. I have successfully overclocked the CPU to 550 and a little more,
Over-clocking is always dangerous, but unrelated to your situation.
>currently only at 450 because I am afraid of a situation. even at 450mhz the
>HD is EXTREMELY hot on its underside.
Any HDD over 6GiB is reccomended to sit in a 5 1/4" bay with a HDD cooling
unit. HDD coolers are relatively inexpensive, and could save you lots of
trouble and expense somewhere down the road.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: bash_profile setting
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2000 09:56:03 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Floyd Davidson wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>...
>>Yes yes yes.
>>
>>1. Because it works.
>>2. Because it dosn't abbreviate the home directory to ~
>
>Garsh, never occured to me that anybody would *want* that. ;-)
>
The problem with \w is that it abbreviates any directory, so
you may not know if you're in /bin or /usr/bin or /usr/X11R6/bin...
The other problem is that you may need to switch to a korn shell
(I occasionally do), which does not recognize bash-specific features.
Using $PWD is transparent to both. (I also create a HOST variable,
and use $HOST in the prompt as well.) If you operate in directories
with long pathnames, you can always include a newline in the prompt.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "RJS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't boot Linux from hard disk
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:58:25 GMT
I am having a similar problem. I was able to boot Redhat 6.1, but I changed
CPU's from and Intel DX2 @ 50MHZ to a IBM/CYRIX DX4 @ 100MHZ and now
magically I have this same problem, including the "crc" and the "invalid
compression format". If I switch back to the Intel, its no problem to boot.
Doses anybody have a clue? Is it possibly a problem with A20 line and the
Cyrix?
"Ken Corbin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Still trying to get this old 486 to run Redhat 6.0. Got the LILO problems
> all straitened out. But whenever it tries to run the standard linux kernal
> image it gets an error while trying to uncompress it. Error varies from
> "crc error" to "invalid compressed format". The odd thing is that it will
> boot just fine from a rescue disk with what presumably is a copy of the
> same kernal image. Tried copying the vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 to the hard disk
and
> setting up lilo to boot from the new copy. Changes the error I get, but
> still fails while trying to uncompress the kernel.
>
> I stumped. For now the system is usable as long as I keep the rescue disk
> in the floppy drive. But it is annoying and I would sure like to figure
out
> what is going wrong with the hard drive boot. Anything else I can try???
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From: ostracus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: HOT HD
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:08:16 -0500
In article <8du03h$5h1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward M Grill
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dearest PC users,
>
> I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
> under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
> 450Mhz. I have successfully overclocked the CPU to 550 and a little
> more,
> currently only at 450 because I am afraid of a situation. even at 450mhz
> the HD is EXTREMELY hot on its underside. I don't have a thermometer,
> but I can't keep my hand on the underside long.....it seems the heat is
> concentrated on some controller on the underside of the HD, a small
> chip, maybe controls DSP?
> anyways, is this Hotness and high temp common? if not, why is it so,
> suggestions? how can I change it, a case fan? I am curious because I
> don't want corrupted data if I end up overclocking....which I know is
> risky anyhow. just wondering if this heat is a uncommon characteristic
> of HD's.
Are you overclocking just the cpu, or the bus also? Hotness (more than usual) from
external
(HD,video,etc) components isn't odd. If you want to continue the way you are they're
fans
specifically made to suck air over the HDs, as well as other components.
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From: Rainer Weikusat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ch.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Those distributions are stupid
Date: 23 Apr 2000 16:36:38 +0200
charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Let's swap then all to FreeBSD or even back to windoze.
Either of which seemingly attracts the same kind of people: Morons,
whiners and bigots.
--
SIGBUS
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Date: 23 Apr 2000 10:13:18 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOT HD
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Edward M;
EMG> Dearest PC users,
EMG> I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
EMG> under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
EMG> 450Mhz. I have successfully overclocked the CPU to 550 and a little
EMG> more, currently only at 450 because I am afraid of a situation. even at
EMG> 450mhz the HD is EXTREMELY hot on its underside. I don't have a
EMG> thermometer, but I can't keep my hand on the underside long.....it seems
EMG> the heat is concentrated on some controller on the underside of the HD,
EMG> a small chip, maybe controls DSP?
EMG> anyways, is this Hotness and high temp common? if not, why is it so,
EMG> suggestions? how can I change it, a case fan? I am curious because I
EMG> don't want corrupted data if I end up overclocking....which I know is
EMG> risky anyhow. just wondering if this heat is a uncommon characteristic
EMG> of HD's.
Your overclocking the mobo has absolutely nothing to do with how hot the
HD runs unless the heat from the mobo is being directed at it, but what
you say certainly does seem excessive. IMO a fan on that drive is in
order, as is a trip to the store to see if the tech reports that they
all run that hot.
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: Stephen Charlton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: core dumps (or the lack of them)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:41:43 GMT
When I'm using most Linux distributions I'm given a core dump whenever
there's a segmentation fault.
However when using Slackware 7.0 every time I get a segmentation fault I
don't get a core dump. Is there anything I need to change to produce
core files? I need these core files for the debugging of my applications.
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From: "Jim Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: HOT HD
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:06:50 -0400
Alain le Sage wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Edward M Grill wrote:
>
>> Dearest PC users,
>>
>> I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
>> under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
And 10,000 rpm drives run even hotter.
jgilmore
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