Linux-Misc Digest #239, Volume #26                Sun, 5 Nov 00 14:13:03 EST

Contents:
  backups via NFS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LinkSys betrayed us!  Poor prospects for Linux. (Bora Ugurlu)
  Re: Ways of reducing log files sizes automatically (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: AOL connection under linux (Pixur)
  Re: Is there a reliable GUI ftp client for Linux? (nuk)
  Re: How to mount a Win2000 NTFS partition? (Rod Smith)
  Re: color prompt in tcsh (Sven Mascheck)
  Tape drive recommendations? ("Lam Dang")
  Re: OpenGL and GNOME (Bill Kocynjski)
  Re: Is there a reliable GUI ftp client for Linux? (Tillmann Steinbrecher)
  Should I use GNOME/KDE or Motif? (Jeff Jeffries)
  Troubleshooting: starting X-windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to mount a Win2000 NTFS partition? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: How to mount a Win2000 NTFS partition? (Markus Kossmann)
  Re: OT - no wars pls, but a good read (Nate Eldredge)
  Another Desktop (Joydeep)
  Re: Why, ext2 don't need defrag (Paul Lew)
  Re: Ways of reducing log files sizes automatically (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Ways of reducing log files sizes automatically ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Another Desktop ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why, ext2 don't need defrag ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Another Desktop (E J)
  OpenLDAP and MS Outlook ("Lars Grenzendoerfer")
  kernel 2.2.16-3 from RH won't compile (custom) ("Jeff")
  Re: kernel 2.2.16-3 from RH won't compile (custom) ("Peter T. Breuer")
  KDE vs GNOME: specific issues (Jeff Jeffries)
  Re: libbsd and ssh (Mark Post)
  Linux on a dual processorboard ("dick dijk")
  Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues (mlw)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 08:59:05 -0500
Subject: backups via NFS

Greetings!

Ok, I have my laptop and desktop linked via ethernet and nfs.

Part of the point of the exercise is to have a nice way to back up the
laptop and to restore it in case of catastrophe.

It's got three partitions: VFAT16 (Win98), HPFS (OS/2 Warp 4), RH 6.0,
coming to about 3G altogether.

What's the best way to pile this stuff onto my desktop for storage and
ease of recovery using nfs? I assume somehow tar and gzip but I'm not sure
what incantation. Remember, there's little free space on the laptop though
there's plenty of room on the desktop so any swapping or temp files have
to park on the desktop.

Also, rough estimate, how long might I expect this to take, say, to park a
1 Gig partition? The nfs connection is direct: cable from one computer to
the other.

I also need to consider my strategy for recovery: maybe a bootdisk which
can enable nfs?

Thanks!

F. 


===========================================================
     Felmon John Davis          
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]        
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
===========================================================


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From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us!  Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:17:57 +0100


> > > tool.  That's what a computer should be; a functional tool to increase
> > > productivity.  Too much time/effort is required to use Linux. 
> > > However,
> > > Win2K is just as stable, but easy and user-friendly.  How much is my
> > > time
> > > worth?  How much is Win2K?  Win2K starts to seem pretty attractive,...
> > >

Linux is no ideal system for everyone, and noone claimed that. If you feel 
lazy to read some documentation and don't know how to install or compile a 
driver, then you are better off with Win2K. But Linux is free, and as long 
as it is free, you have to depend on what the people (users) have developed 
for other users. Is Windows free? Is Office free? No, but they give broader 
and simpler driver support in exchange for a narrow spectrum of fine-tuning 
and personalisation. The second one is a more dramatic issue. You HAVE TO 
obey Windows rules and do what they say and buy only their software with 
their prices. It doesn't let you get yourself in the whole process, it 
keeps you alone and outside.. That's the thing I don't like about windows. 
It's sneaky... (I wanted to use hinterh�ltig, a word in German) 
And it's not open.. I hate secrets when something runs on a system I OWN..
that's it.. 

So go use Windows, noone blames you for that. After all, it's your time and 
your money. but not YOUR operating system..

Bora Ugurlu 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ways of reducing log files sizes automatically
Date: 5 Nov 2000 15:11:29 GMT

George Georgakis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[ You sound like you may want to try logrotate. This is a little utility
[which [ can be set to rotate nominated logs every day/week/whatever, and
[have old [ records emailed to you. The system's log files will not exceed
[a certain pre- [ set size limit using logrotate. 

just to add to what george said, Mandrake included logrotate in its 
package (6.0, at least). See if your distro included that already
--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pixur)
Subject: Re: AOL connection under linux
Date: 05 Nov 2000 15:43:16 GMT

<< 
>Also, thanks for the link to inside-aol.com. I really enjoyed reading
>about the Microsoft "hack"!

Could you or your correspondent please post this link again? I seem to
have missed it.

Thanks.

F. >>

The link is www.inside-aol.com

JWagaman




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From: nuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a reliable GUI ftp client for Linux?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 10:01:45 -0700

Tillmann Steinbrecher wrote:

> Hello,
>
> is there a reliable GUI ftp client for Linux? I'd be happy about any
> recommendations.
>
> Unfortunately, all GUI ftp clients I've tried so far are simply not
> reliable enough:
>
> - gFTP 2.0.7b - has major problems with windows-based ftp
>   servers (G6, WarFTP), therefore unusable for me
>
> - gFTP 2.0.7a - works with these servers, but the timeout
>   feature doesn't work, therefore unusable for me
>
> - IglooFTP PRO - great functionality, timeouts work, but
>   not stable enough - crashes very often, every 5-10 hours,
>   therefore unusable for me
>
> - DeadFTP - doesn't work with my distribution, because it
>   requires newer libraries (I'm using Debian 2.2).
>
> I'm wondering, is there any GUI ftp client that will work as well as the
> good windows ftp clients (e.g. Bulleproof FTP)? Doesn't have to be
> freeware, I'd be willing to pay for it if it's really good. E.g. I would
> buy IglooFTP Pro if it wouldn't crash so often.
>
> bye,
> Till
> --
> Tillmann Steinbrecher
> Webmaster - The Heatsink Guide      AnandTech Editor
> http://www.heatsink-guide.com       http://www.anandtech.com

Hmmm... I haven't had problems like that w/ gftp yet, but I will admit that
I still prefer ncftp or lftp for rock-solid downloads.  Another client out
there that worked well for me, but I didn't really warm to appearance-wise
was 'wxftp', which is basically a clone of WsFTP.  It always seemed to work
pretty good.

Monte



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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: How to mount a Win2000 NTFS partition?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 16:01:25 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I run redhat linux 7.0.
> Tried to mount the /dev/hda1 with hpfs, vfat, msdos, umsdos but no luck.
> Any clues?

Use the filesystem type code "ntfs" to mount NTFS partitions.
Unfortunately, it's not included in the default RH 7.0 kernel, so you'll
need to recompile the kernel (or at least the NTFS module).

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: color prompt in tcsh
Date: 5 Nov 2000 17:14:58 +0100

Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > [bash]  export PS1='[\u@\h \033[1;33m\W\033[0;39m]\$ '

 > But I run into a strange bug.  I run RH62 on various systems, and
 > they all do the same thing. If the prompt line gets too long [...]
 > the terminal (whichever it may be) seems to "lose track" of
 > which characters belong where,

You have to "escape" the non-printable parts with '\[ ... \]'
 - see the manpage.

 > I'm not sure if that can carry over to tcsh or not-- you'd think
 > that it would.  

Yes, but it doesn't (in tcsh-6.06/6.09).

Sven

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From: "Lam Dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tape drive recommendations?
Date: 05 Nov 2000 10:57:55 -0500

I've been backing up stuffs on 4mm tape drive
with BRU 15.1 (RedHat 6.X) unattended.  Hard
disks are getting bigger and bigger, but my
trusted old TLZ-06 can only do 2G per tape.

Any recommendations and experiences with
newer tape drives, either SCSI[2,3] or IDE,
with higher capacity per tape?

-- 
Lam Dang
dangit AT ix DOT netcom DOT com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Kocynjski)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.development,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: OpenGL and GNOME
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:00:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 06:06:18 GMT,
>Bill Kocynjski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Can you use OpenGL with GNOME, as you can with X and Motif?   Are there
>>any books on this, like "OpenGL Progamming for the X Window System" by
>>Kilgard?
>>
>>Are there any issues about drivers or graphics hardware support under
>>GNOME and OpenGL?
>
>GNOME is effectively just a set of widgets that run under X.  It will
>not affect any application that uses OpenGL directly with X11 or glut.
>Also, the GTK toolkit that underlies GNOME provides a widget (gtkglarea)
>that provides a display buffer into which OpenGL rendered images can
>be displayed.
>
>rajat



Thank you very much Rajat.

Bill

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From: Tillmann Steinbrecher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a reliable GUI ftp client for Linux?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:02:03 +0100

Hi,

nuk wrote:

> Hmmm... I haven't had problems like that w/ gftp yet, but I will admit that
> I still prefer ncftp or lftp for rock-solid downloads.  Another client out
> there that worked well for me, but I didn't really warm to appearance-wise
> was 'wxftp', which is basically a clone of WsFTP.  It always seemed to work
> pretty good.

wxftp is called axy ftp by now. It is stable, but doesn't have all the
features I need. E.g. it doesn't let you select which files to
resume/overwrite _before_ starting the download - instead, it will ask
whether to resume the file download right before starting to download
this individual file. Also, it doesn't automatically reconnect and
resume the download when a download times out.

IglooFTP Pro and gftp would be fine, if they weren't so buggy :(

bye,
Till
-- 
Tillmann Steinbrecher                   
Webmaster - The Heatsink Guide      AnandTech Editor
http://www.heatsink-guide.com       http://www.anandtech.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Jeffries)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.devel,linux.redhat.development
Subject: Should I use GNOME/KDE or Motif?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:15:26 GMT

I need to develop an app for analyzing data and graphically (3D)
displaying results, preferrably with C++, X Windows, and OpenGL. 

I need to be able to move my development efforts, and the app itself, to
as many platforms as possible as I'll be moing and don't know what kind of
platform will be at my next locale.

Second priority is speed, as it will be extremely computational- and
diskI/O- intensive. 

Should I use Motif, or the newer GNOME (or KDE)?

Thanks
Jeff



--Should I use GNOME/KDE or Motif?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Troubleshooting: starting X-windows
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:11:12 GMT

I have currently installed Red-Linux V.8 (based on RedHat 6.1 GPL) on
my second hard drive, using the graphic installation mode (it had
recognised my riva tnt2 and my monitor!), and as it says in the
handbook, all packages for the Xfree86 (and KDE) to start are already
installed. However, when i try to start my KDE with the
command "startx" as a root user, the screen goes black, the music
comes, but when i switch back to the console, it says as follows:
"kpanel: waiting for windowmanager
could not read '/tmp//kfm-cache-0/index.txt
kpanel: ok, commencing initialization"
and it just freezes there and whatever command i type, it doesn't
react. As i am a linux newbie, i am sure it is a fairly simple problem,
but what is it, and how is it to be solved?
thankyou for any help.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How to mount a Win2000 NTFS partition?
Date: 5 Nov 2000 17:20:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:39:30 GMT, Duncan wrote:
>I run redhat linux 7.0.
>Tried to mount the /dev/hda1 with hpfs, vfat, msdos, umsdos but no luck.
>Any clues?

If the partition is of type NTFS, mount it with "-t ntfs".  If that
doesn't work, you will have to compile NTFS support as a module.  (su -
&& cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make modules modules_install)
And stay away from the NTFS write support unless you like fixing broken
filesystems, since writing to NTFS is still experimental.

Remember to use kgcc instead of gcc if you do compile kernel
modules--RedHat 7.0 shipped with a version of gcc that cannot compile a
working kernel, as you may have heard elsewhere.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to mount a Win2000 NTFS partition?
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:36:33 +0100

Duncan wrote:
> 
> I run redhat linux 7.0.
> Tried to mount the /dev/hda1 with hpfs, vfat, msdos, umsdos but no luck.
> Any clues?
First check /proc filesytems. If it doesn't list ntfs , check if if
there is a ntfs.o module somewhere unter /lib/modules and load it with
"modprobe ntfs". Then try to mount with "mount -t ntfs ..." again.  If
there is no support in the kernel nor a module available, you have to
rebuild your kernel to enable the ntfs support.  
-- 
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Nate Eldredge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: OT - no wars pls, but a good read
Date: 05 Nov 2000 09:26:49 -0800

Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> An Metet wrote:
> > Molly Ivins is a columnist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
> And a good Democrat, even if that is an oxymoron

For heaven's sake, take this to another newsgroup!  A single massively
OT post was bad enough, but an entire OT political flamewar... oh, the
humanity.

-- 

Nate Eldredge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joydeep)
Subject: Another Desktop
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:36:22 GMT

Hello All, 

I am having GNOME desktop on my RH6.2. I would like to have some
features that KDE is having. Is it possible to keep 2 desktops and
switch between them? If so, how do I do that? Alternatively how do I
remove GNOME and install KDE? 

Thanks, 

Joy_deep 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Why, ext2 don't need defrag
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:36:15 GMT

On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:27:31 -0000, Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne),
>  In a message on Sun, 05 Nov 2000 06:21:15 GMT, wrote :
>
>CB> In our last episode (Sat, 04 Nov 2000 21:13:34 -0500),
>CB> the artist formerly known as dan said:
>CB> >I understand that the ext2 filesystem is a little "smarter" then the fat
>CB> >fs, and it does not need to be defrag.  But can someone explain why, I
>CB> >mean the physical architecture of how the ext2 fs works, or if it's too
>CB> >much to explain does anyone know of a site that can thoroughtly
>CB> >breakdown how the ext2 fs works.
>CB> 
>CB> See:
>CB> <http://step.polymtl.ca/~ldd/ext2fs/ext2fs_toc.html>
>CB>    Analysis of the Ext2fs structure
>CB> 
>CB> As well as the references by R�my Card and Theodore Ts'o that are
>CB> referenced therein.
>CB> 
>CB> It is _NOT_ a "comparative analysis of ext2fs _as compared to DOS FAT_"
>CB> and thus will not provide a detailed answer as to _why_ ext2 is better.
>CB> 

??? SuSE 6.3 has the following msg:
     EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
     
Doesn't e2fsck also "defrag" a bit as well as checking the file-system?

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ways of reducing log files sizes automatically
From: Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:53:44 GMT

Alternatively, if you want to control this, and many other things,
using an integrated tool that Does Lots Of Cleanup, you might try
cfengine. <http://www.iu.hioslo.no/cfengine/>

I use the following set of rules that run each day to clean up a
number of files _I_ found got pretty sticky.  [The usual log rotaters
are not aware of the log files produced by Postfix; that caused me
problems on one system...]

disable:
      /var/log/auth.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.info rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.warn rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.err rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/kern.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/debug rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/daemon.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/messages rotate=8 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/debug rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
-- 
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") 
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxsysconfig.html>
Multics is security spelled sideways.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ways of reducing log files sizes automatically
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:16:47 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:
> George Georgakis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [ You sound like you may want to try logrotate. This is a little utility
> [which [ can be set to rotate nominated logs every day/week/whatever, and
> [have old [ records emailed to you. The system's log files will not exceed
> [a certain pre- [ set size limit using logrotate. 
> 
> just to add to what george said, Mandrake included logrotate in its 
> package (6.0, at least). See if your distro included that already

Alternatively, if you want to control this, and many other things,
using an integrated tool that Does Lots Of Cleanup, you might try
cfengine. <http://www.iu.hioslo.no/cfengine/>

I use the following set of rules that run each day to clean up a
number of files _I_ found got pretty sticky.  [The usual log rotaters
are not aware of the log files produced by Postfix; that caused me
problems on one system...]

disable:
      /var/log/auth.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.info rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.warn rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/mail.err rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/kern.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/debug rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/daemon.log rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/messages rotate=8 type=plain size=>200k
      /var/log/debug rotate=4 type=plain size=>200k
-- 
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") 
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxsysconfig.html>
Multics is security spelled sideways.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Another Desktop
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:16:51 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joydeep) writes:
> Hello All, 
> 
> I am having GNOME desktop on my RH6.2. I would like to have some
> features that KDE is having. Is it possible to keep 2 desktops and
> switch between them? If so, how do I do that? Alternatively how do I
> remove GNOME and install KDE? 

GNOME and KDE are _just sets of libraries_, and some applications that
use those libraries.

Both are constructed to run atop X, and X is _perfectly happy_ having
applications using all sorts of toolkits run top it, _simultaneously_.

- You want to run gnomecal and kwm at the same time?  Knock yourself
  out; they'll work _perfectly well_ together.

- You want to run kspread and gnumeric simultaneously?  No problem.
  No need to deinstall one to run the other.

- You want to run kpanel and GNOME Panel at the same time?  Go ahead.
  You may want to set them up to appear on different sides of the
  screen, but that's not a "bug" of either.
-- 
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
"... Turns out that JPG was in fact using his brain... and I am inclined to
encourage him to continue the practice even if it isn't exactly what I
would have done myself." -- Alan Bawden (way out of context)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why, ext2 don't need defrag
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:16:51 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew) writes:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:27:31 -0000, Robert Heller
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ??? SuSE 6.3 has the following msg:
>      EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
>      
> Doesn't e2fsck also "defrag" a bit as well as checking the file-system?

I don't think so; I suppose that if it has to fix a broken file, it
likely tries to allocate the new inode afresh, which may result in
those files that were _broken_ getting a little less fragmented.  

It would be quite distressing were it to do more than that...
-- 
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
"Everything should  be made as  simple as possible, but  not simpler."
-- Albert Einstein

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Desktop
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 10:18:32 -0800

$ switchdesk # use this to switch from KDE desktop to GNOME desktop or
visa versa as default

# rpm -e gnome_stuff    # remove gnome rpms.
# rpm -i kde_stuff.rpm   # add kde rpms
an easier way to put back your RH CD and do an upgrade and install all
the KDE stuff.

If you have the hard disk space, I rather keep both.  Gnome and KDE work
nicely with each other.  I can run Gnome written
programs on KDE and visa versa.
I like Gnome as my root desktop because its system administration is
better.
I like KDE as my non-root desktop because its more user friendly.
and Gnome and KDE is always getting better.

Joydeep wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am having GNOME desktop on my RH6.2. I would like to have some
> features that KDE is having. Is it possible to keep 2 desktops and
> switch between them? If so, how do I do that? Alternatively how do I
> remove GNOME and install KDE?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joy_deep


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From: "Lars Grenzendoerfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: OpenLDAP and MS Outlook
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:16:48 +0100

Hi,


i'm using OpenLDAP on my Linux server. How do I have to configure OpenLDAP
to work with MS Outlook? What attributes and objectclasses do I have to add?
Are there any other changes to be made?

Thanks for your support.


CU

    Lars



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From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.2.16-3 from RH won't compile (custom)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:33:49 GMT

I downloaded all the kernel packages from RH for this kernel
ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/i386/kernel-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm

What is the deal?  When I use the rpm kernel released from RH(RedHat) it
does not
compile (a custom kernel) it spits out errors about not finding errno.h but
yet it is there and in my path?  Is the problem in the source itself?

If I download the generic 2.2.16 from kernel.org it compiles a customized
kernel with no issue.

I have installed and built many RH kernels in the past and am quite
comfortable with the process.
I don't think I need a lesson on make mrproper, make config, make dep, make
clean, make bzImage.

What I do want to find out is where this error message really points...
since I looked at the scripts and the line numbers stated in the error
messages,  and I can locate what it is complaining about and the permissions
look right (errno.h) but yet the script can not find errno.h?

line 25 of /usr/include/bits/errno.h calls <linux/errno.h>  and
/usr/src/linux/errno.h exists
as well as /usr/include/errno.h which is calling /usr/include/bits/errno.h

Should there really be a /usr/include/linux/errno.h ?
<<<<

# make bzImage
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36
                 from scripts/split-include.c:26:
/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1

>>>>
I think there is a link or path issue here but I am not sure where the fix
is?

I know I could use the generic kernel but I want to use the rpms from RH to
keep
better revision control as well as maintain the RH enhancements.
Any commentary/pointers would be appreciated.

thank you
jeff






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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.16-3 from RH won't compile (custom)
Date: 5 Nov 2000 18:43:32 GMT

Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: line 25 of /usr/include/bits/errno.h calls <linux/errno.h>  and
: /usr/src/linux/errno.h exists
: as well as /usr/include/errno.h which is calling /usr/include/bits/errno.h

: Should there really be a /usr/include/linux/errno.h ?

Yes of course. /usr/include/linux should be a symlink to
/usr/src/linux/include/linux.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Jeffries)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.solaris,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:47:30 GMT

I need to choose either GNOME or KDE. I will be doing computationally
intensive C++, with very heavy disk I/O. Results will be displayed in 3D
preferrably with OpenGL. 

1. Are GNOME and KDE C++ and/or object oriented? How will this affect
developing with C++?

2. I know GNOME has gtkglarea; does KDE?

3. What else should a C++ developer know?

Thanks!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: libbsd and ssh
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:50:54 GMT

On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 02:26:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


>Can any one tell me where i can get libbsd? I tried compile
>ssh-1.x and ssh-2.x and keep getting this error message
>"/usr/lib/libbsd.a(signal.o): In function `signal':
>signal.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `_sigintr'"

It sounds like you already have it.  Does it show up when you do a
ls -l /usr/lib/libbsd.a
?

Mark Post

Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.

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From: "dick dijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on a dual processorboard
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:41:02 +0100

Hello,

I am thinking about buying a new PC with two processors in it, does anyone
have a suggestion for a dual processor motherboard. If so what processors do
you use? Do you experience good performance?

Dick



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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.solaris,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:07:56 -0500

Jeff Jeffries wrote:
> 
> I need to choose either GNOME or KDE. I will be doing computationally
> intensive C++, with very heavy disk I/O. Results will be displayed in 3D
> preferrably with OpenGL.
> 
> 1. Are GNOME and KDE C++ and/or object oriented? How will this affect
> developing with C++?

KDE is mostly C++ while GNOME is a bogus, bloated, pseudo-object
oriented hack.

> 
> 2. I know GNOME has gtkglarea; does KDE?
> 
> 3. What else should a C++ developer know?

Make a choice and go with it. I use gnome, but am thinking that I should
switch back to KDE. For looks, I think Gnome is better looking, for
software design, I think KDE is better.

> 
> Thanks!

-- 
http://www.mohawksoft.com

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