Linux-Misc Digest #512, Volume #21 Mon, 23 Aug 99 02:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: BIOS upgrade needs DOS(??) (brian moore)
Anonymous FTP on stock Mandrake 6.0 (Warren Bell)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (james.arnold@!!!usa.net)
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself ("David L. Johnson")
Re: Seeking Linux UDP broadcast forwarding solution ("Curtis Maurand")
LS120 Super Drive (cedric)
KDE newsgroup? (See sig for reply)
WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD??? (Eric Wright)
Re: GNOME ppp applet solution (Abdullah Ramazanoglu)
Re: manpath is all screwed up (Craig Stewart)
Help with Trident 9880 chipset ("Andrew Phoon")
Re: Text Editor (James D. Robinson)
Re: SIS 620 Finally Works In High Resolution, just had to go to their website for
the linux drivers, duh :) ("Irwan Soetandar")
Re: Text Editor (James D. Robinson)
Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD??? ("Jordan")
Re: Inetd errors (Gary Momarison)
ppp: frame with bad fcs ??? (Martin Brown)
Re: Linux text editor .. (Gary Momarison)
Re: changing hostnames (Gary Momarison)
Re: Web Page Authoring Tools (Gary Momarison)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: BIOS upgrade needs DOS(??)
Date: 23 Aug 1999 02:28:07 GMT
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:07:38 GMT,
Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neil Zanella wrote:
> >
> > I am running Linux on /dev/hda1 (the whole hard drive).
> > I would like to install a larger hard drive but since my BIOS does not
> > support drives larger than 1GB this requires a BIOS update. The BIOS
> > update consists of running a DOS application. Can I run such an application
> > from Linux (perhaps from a DOS emulator of some sort) or do I really need
> > to install DOS on my hard drive first (when I am just about to remove it??).
>
> If you are running only Linux then I am not sure if you have to mess
> with your BIOS. I have a P133 with a '95 BIOS and for a long while I had
> only the boot disk defined in BIOS. The other disk was found by the
> kernel when it booted. This is a 13 GB disk. In BIOS, now I defined it
> only for 8 GB but Linux of course can see the full disk. Give it a try.
> YMMV.
I run a SCSI system, and have a single big IDE drive to throw mp3's and
other junk on. The BIOS doesn't even know that drive exists.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:14:28 +0000
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anonymous FTP on stock Mandrake 6.0
Does anyone know if anonymous ftp is disabled as default on Mandrake 6?
I cant figure it out, in my inetd.conf ftp isn't commented out, it's the
default ftpaccess file.
If I ftp in to localhost or the IP number I get connection refused.
Has anyone had trouble with this or know where I can look.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Reply-To: james.arnold@!!!usa.net
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:01:25 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner) writes:
>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathew A. Hennessy)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>The WPS beats them both, of course.
>>
>> Mebbe, but I like to use software written in the last 3 years.. ;)
>
>Typical Microsoft-influenced mindset. :-(
>
>The functionality of a piece of s/w is not always related to its age,
>and yet so many people seem to have this driving need to use "new"
>software rather than "good" software.
>
>It boggles my mind.
My thoughts exactly. I would much prefer good, quality
software rather than the newest, flashiest, bug-ridden bloatware.
Jim
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From: "David L. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:05:24 -0400
Lee Revell wrote:
> turned off Java. Netscape is a prety shoddy piece of software in
> general - you can't copy and paste the normal X way, you have to select
> the text, Edit | Copy, then Edit | Paste, just like in MS Windows. I
> would use IE in a heartbeat if it were ever ported to linux.
Whatever gives you the idea that IE would be any better than netscape?
--
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Lehigh University, 14 E. Packer Avenue, Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174
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thou say? -- George Fox.
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From: "Curtis Maurand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Seeking Linux UDP broadcast forwarding solution
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:31:26 -0400
I had trouble with udprelay, too. then I stubled on a port of udprelay for
linux. try ftp2.lamere.net/pub/LINUX/udprelay-linux.tgz.
Curtis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7p3q4p$8gf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In comp.os.linux.networking epadin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The Cisco router has a 'udp forward' command whereby you specify the
>> UDP port and it will forward all UDP broadcast traffic seen on the
>
>You're probably looking for udprelay, which can be found at
>ftp://coast.cs.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/udprelay-0.2.tar.gz
>
>Unfortunately, it doesn't compile on my box (RH6), but the following
>patch seems to work (disclaimer: I didn't test it much).
>
> -Daz.
>
>
>diff -C2 udprelay-0.2.orig/Makefile udprelay-0.2/Makefile
>*** udprelay-0.2.orig/Makefile Sat Oct 30 12:40:46 1993
>--- udprelay-0.2/Makefile Sat Aug 14 22:54:33 1999
>***************
>*** 11,16 ****
> # for ODT 2.0
> CC=gcc
>! OPTS=-DSYSV
>! LIBS=-lsocket
> # for AIX
> # OPTS=-DAIX
>--- 11,17 ----
> # for ODT 2.0
> CC=gcc
>! OPTS=-DLINUX
>! #OPTS=-DSYSV
>! #LIBS=-lsocket
> # for AIX
> # OPTS=-DAIX
>diff -C2 udprelay-0.2.orig/udprelay.c udprelay-0.2/udprelay.c
>*** udprelay-0.2.orig/udprelay.c Sat Oct 30 12:12:51 1993
>--- udprelay-0.2/udprelay.c Sat Aug 14 22:59:46 1999
>***************
>*** 78,81 ****
>--- 78,85 ----
> #include <sys/ioctl.h>
> #endif
>+ #ifdef LINUX
>+ #include <fcntl.h>
>+ #define FIONBIO O_NONBLOCK
>+ #endif
> #include <pwd.h>
> #include "udprelay.h"
>--
>Darren Tucker. (dtucker at the domain zip dot com dot au)
>A programmer is a device for converting caffeine into source code.
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From: cedric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LS120 Super Drive
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:34:16 -0700
Can anyone help me set up a LS120 Super Drive.
I can get it to 1.44mb, but do not know how to get it to 120 mb.
cedric
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From: See sig for reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE newsgroup?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:37:59 GMT
X-No-Archive: yes
Hello *,
is there a newsgroup for KDE topics?
My list doesn't show one ...
Thanks,
Detlef.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wright)
Subject: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:20:36 GMT
I ordered the mega-pack of Linux flavors from www.linuxmall.com last
week. I saw in the pack description that FreeBSD 3.2 was
included....but it said that it wasn't actually Linux.
I'm confused. It's a unix-type OS just like Linux, right? Granted it
ISN'T Linux....it wasn't part of Linus' project years back....but it's
technically almost like Linux, right?
I've tried finding the answers on the 'net but all I found were pages
that said there was a certain animousity betwenn Linux groups and
FreeBSD groups (another WTF). I'm lost here.
Can someone explain to me (in layman's terms, so a relative newbie can
understand).
What are the strengths and weaknesses of FreeBSD compared to Linux
(any flavor of Linux)?
I'm sure to get some biased opinions but after all, this is a Linux NG
:o)
Ron
aka NipponDSM
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From: Abdullah Ramazanoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME ppp applet solution
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:22 +0300
Steve Gage wrote:
>
> Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
> >
> > Tweezak wrote:
> > [.....]
> > > After discovering that (thanks to usenet info), I decided to make my own
> > > applet to run ifup and ifdown. It turns out there is a second ppp
> > > applet that comes with GNOME. It is better concealed but it seems to
> > > work for all users. Here's how you get to it:
> > >
> > > 1. RIGHT click on an open space on the panel (taskbar, whatever)
> > >
> > > 2. Move your mouse up until "Add applet >" is highlighted.
> > >
> > > 3. Move your mouse over and down to "Network."
> > >
> > > 4. Select "PPP Dialer"
> > >
> > > An icon will be added to your panel that looks like a play/pause and
> > > stop button. Click on the "play" button and your modem should dial.
> > > Click on the "stop" button and it should disconnect. This is assuming
> > > that you had working ppp in X before installing GNOME.
> > [.....]
> >
> > Also give a consideration to the "Modem Lights" applet. It has several
> > more advantages:
> >
> > - Extensive configuration (via Properties) : You can make it use any
> > program to connect/disconnect (I use kppp, though I work in Gnome)
> >
> > - Modem receive & transmit lights in real-time.
> >
> > - Short term traffic history
>
> Except I can't modem lights to recognize my ppp connection. It will
> successfully dial and connect, but the applet always says "not
> connected". Any idea how to fix it?
>
> - Steve
It's most probably because of incorrect device and lock file
specifications in modem-lights setup. For instance, if you actually use
/dev/ttyS2 to dial out, then lock file specification to Modem-Lights
should be /var/lock/LCK..ttyS2.
Note: It's not advisable to use /dev/modem symlink or /dev/cua2.
--
Abdullah Ramazanoglu ( aramazanoglu AT demirbank DOT com DOT tr )
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From: Craig Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: manpath is all screwed up
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:50:43 -0500
Yes, when I do an echo $MANPATH, it prints out "/usr/local/qt/man"...how
would I go about including the old defaults? I don't know what the old
defaults are, but they should be the default ones for RH6.0, if anyone knows
them. To include the old defaults, do I just do "set MANPATH=<defaults>;
export MANPATH"? Because I tried that with <defaults>="/usr/man", and it
didn't work. I am so lost, please help (again, sorry I need this spelled
out for me, but with the nature of the problem I didn't know what other
course to take)
TIA,
Craig
Charles Sullivan wrote:
> Did this thing put in a MANPATH environment variable?
> If present, this variable overrides the default man path -
> you have to explicitly include the old defaults in the
> variable.
>
> Craig Stewart wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I recently installed the qt-2.0.1 rpm, only to find that I cannot use my
> >man pages any more...needless to say, for a newbie like myself, this is
> >quite a problem. At least, I think that's why I can't use them. I've
> >run the command manpath that I just stumbled on looking for access to
> >man pages, and it says "/usr/local/qt/man", which I'm pretty sure is the
> >reason this is a problem...anyone else have this problem? Does anyone
> >know how to solve it...This is one case where I definitely wish I could
> >RTFM. Please help.
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >Craig
> >
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From: "Andrew Phoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Trident 9880 chipset
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:47:14 +0800
I've got a Video Excel Trident 9880 Blade 3d VGA card, and I'm trying to set
it up to work with Mandrake 6.0. Is anyone able to help me here?
Andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James D. Robinson)
Subject: Re: Text Editor
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:22:29 GMT
As a new Linux user, the only comment that I would like to make it the
simplicistic approach can be useful for simple edits of command, startup
files etc. The other editors are more useful with larger files and when one
has had the time to learn the commands.
PS I have used various editors from the simple ones like EDIT in msdos to
the more complex like TPU in VMS.
Is it possible to download mcedit and if so from where.
Cheers , Jim R.
On 22 Aug 99 20:26:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Seelig) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Earl) writes:
>
>> And if you don't like vi, then there is a good chance that you will fall into
>> the realm of people that like Emacs.
>>
>There are more editors available than only Emacs or vi (or any of
>their various incarnations). But lots of people definitely can't stand
>*any* of both because of their extravagant useability when compared to
>something like a simplicistic MS-DOS Edit or similiar. For this kind
>of people "mcedit" (which comes with the Midnight Commander) seems to
>be the (almost) perfect choice.
> Cheers, P. *8^)
>
>PS: I'm BTW a happy user of XEmacs, vim and mcedit.
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From: "Irwan Soetandar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: SIS 620 Finally Works In High Resolution, just had to go to their website
for the linux drivers, duh :)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:33:28 -0700
Hi Allix,
How do you read download file of SiS that is saved in DOS format ?
I did download the software and dont know how to open it and transfer to
linux format ?
Thanks
Allix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:1m2w3.340$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Well I'm still kicking myself , for not going to their website in the
first
> place, for all you SIS people out there , head straight to www.sis.com.tw
> I can finally get 16 , 24 and 32 bit modes in linux, and boy does it ever
> look good
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
> http://www.desktophorizon.com/index.html?referrer=jago
> http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=DWW595
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James D. Robinson)
Subject: Re: Text Editor
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:22:28 GMT
AS a new user of On 22 Aug 99 20:26:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul
Seelig) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Earl) writes:
>
>> And if you don't like vi, then there is a good chance that you will fall into
>> the realm of people that like Emacs.
>>
>There are more editors available than only Emacs or vi (or any of
>their various incarnations). But lots of people definitely can't stand
>*any* of both because of their extravagant useability when compared to
>something like a simplicistic MS-DOS Edit or similiar. For this kind
>of people "mcedit" (which comes with the Midnight Commander) seems to
>be the (almost) perfect choice.
> Cheers, P. *8^)
>
>PS: I'm BTW a happy user of XEmacs, vim and mcedit.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:52:33 -0600
Which is better ? Why? (or what other mag is better)
Thanks,
KAC
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Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kacweb.com
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From: "Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:02:14 -0600
Hi,
Well, I will give you my corrections on your corrections below :) I might
not be right about some of it so let me know what you think. Keep in mind I
wrote this post for a newbie. They don't need to know the whole history of
computers starting with the ENIAC, PDP's and other stuff like that. To them
Windows and a PC is what a computer is. They didn't know other advancements
in computers like OS's and platforms have been stepping stones to what we
have now.
> AT&T was not interested in making an operating system, specifically.
Close enough. They were trying to make a system written in some sort of
language that allowed them to do more things on a computer. That is an OS
isn't it?
>
> Also, Unix is not the first OS by any imagination. What this statement
> means is not clear, but for sure System 360 existed before Unix, GECOS
> existed before Unix, Multics existed before Unix, etc.
Yes, but a newbie to UNIX doesn't know about all that stuff. They think that
Linux is a "new" OS and while it is somewhat, it really comes from UNIX, a
system that has many variations and has been around just as long as Windows
or Apple computers.
> IBM never wanted Windows. IBM bought copies of MS-DOS for the IBM PC.
>
> After a few years, sometime after the 286 was released, IBM decided that
> a nice GUI OS would be nice, and started development of OS/2 with
> Microsoft. Bill kept developing Windows on the side, though, and around
> 1990 released Windows 3.0, dumping the OS/2 project in IBM's lap.
Maybe IBM never wanted Windows/Dos, but from what I have read they did. It's
just that they wanted it as their own OS, like Apple and their OS and many
other computer makers had their versions of UNIX. They didn't want it to be
a piece of "software" on their computer like Windows is on every PC computer
nowadays. They wanted to own an OS like the other companies. But Gates
refused to sell Dos to any particular computer company because he really
believed he had a good thing. (Even if it was by far the largest computer
company and one of the fastest growing companies period) So IBM then decided
to go ahead and find the best way to make a good OS for their platform that
they owned themselves.
> Andrew Tanenbaum had developed it for teaching purposes. I believe
> there is also something called Xinu that was at one time popular for
> teaching. It doesn't seem to factor into the Linux history, though.
Do you know if Minix was a free system or what kind of computers it worked
on?
I think there were a lot of other UNIX's that were written and used at
different universities but Minix must have been a pretty popular one that
got around to quite a few places. Like you said, a student can't learn much
from a UNIX written by a computer company because they can't see the code.
Also, Minix must have cost nothing compared to buying a system of computers
from AT&T or some computer company.
Jordan
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Inetd errors
From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 22:04:04 -0700
If you can't fix your problem, you could replace it with xinetd
which is supposed to be better (more features) anyway.
See http://synack.net/xinetd/
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Brown)
Subject: ppp: frame with bad fcs ???
Date: 22 Aug 1999 22:05:02 -0700
Frequently, ppp has been giving me:
ppp: frame with bad fcs, excess = xxx
What does this mean?
Is it that bad?
What can I do about it?
Thanx.
--
- Martin J. Brown, Jr. -
- BEAUDESIGN.COM -
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Subject: Re: Linux text editor ..
From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 22:00:04 -0700
SkAtAn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am looking for a text editor under linux (console)
> that looks and works like edit.com (microshaft) ..
> for example pico ..
You should find a pico in some Red Hat archive.
It's on my RH 5.2 CD at misc/src/trees/rescue/bin/pico
It's only 159212 bytes. I wonder if that's the same pico I
used back in 1979? (Wasn't pico "son of teco"?) I wonder why
you want something so primitive. Save yourself some time in
both the short and long runs and spend an hour playing with
the Emacs tutorial. (Start emacs, type F1 and h.) If you
want an editor with just a few commands, just learn a few
commands. Later, you can learn commands to ease your editing.
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Subject: Re: changing hostnames
From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 22:09:16 -0700
Anup Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm runnign redhat..
>
>
> I'd like to know how I can change the my hostname to something I like.
Since you don't say, I'll assume it's a recent "redhat".
Run "linuxconf" as root and poke around for the hostname changing
thingy. Or poke around in your /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit script to
see what's happening at boot.
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Subject: Re: Web Page Authoring Tools
From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 22:14:03 -0700
"Suddn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What is a good, easy to use web authoring tool for Linux?
If you learn how to use XEmacs, it's probably the best, since
you can automate everything you find yourself doing often.
Other than that, I doubt if there is such a thing. Of course
there are several that claim to be. Netscape, Star Office,
Applix, etc.
You can find some more (commercial and other) offerings under
"authoring" in http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/internet.html
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