Linux-Misc Digest #512, Volume #27 Mon, 2 Apr 01 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: strange file metamorphose ("Eric")
Re: Formatting a partition in Linux? ("Eric")
Can I use MSN as ISP from Linux box? (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: Downloaded RH7 image won't work...help ("Tom")
Re: CD-RW problem ("Eric")
NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 3 April 2001 LXNY Meeting: Vagn Scott will speak on state, time,
client-sysadmin systems, and disaster recovery of whole lans ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? (Sparkzz)
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? (Sparkzz)
Re: Samba question: Win98 workstation with a private IP can't see Samba (Jan Just
Keijser)
Re: CD-RW problem (David)
HDD partion boundary errors? (Doug Robbins)
Re: HDD partion boundary errors? ("Eric")
Hard disk as sequential access device????i ("Sergio Anguita")
boot poblem (sven)
Re: boot poblem ("Eric")
Re: boot poblem ("Eric")
Tar with multi-volumes (Olivier Colliot)
Re: Support for LCD Monitors? (Matthew Wild)
Backup software (Olivier Colliot)
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: strange file metamorphose
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:23:20 +0200
> the windows hd:
> fdisk -l /dev/hda produces the following:
>
> Festplatte /dev/hda: 255 K�pfe, 63 Sektoren, 1046 Zylinder
> Einheiten: Zylinder mit 16065 * 512 Bytes
>
> Ger�t Booten Anfang Ende Bl�cke ID Dateisystemtyp
> /dev/hda1 * 1 426 3421813+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda2 427 1046 4980150 f Win95 Erw. (LBA)
> /dev/hda5 427 644 1751053+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda6 645 1046 3229033+ b Win95 FAT32
>
> the linux hd
> bash-2.04# fdisk -l /dev/hdb
>
> Festplatte /dev/hdb: 255 K�pfe, 63 Sektoren, 1245 Zylinder
> Einheiten: Zylinder mit 16065 * 512 Bytes
>
> Ger�t Booten Anfang Ende Bl�cke ID Dateisystemtyp
> /dev/hdb1 1 1245 10000431 f Win95 Erw. (LBA)
> /dev/hdb5 1 3 24034+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb6 4 20 136521 82 Linux (Auslagerung)
> /dev/hdb7 21 1245 9839781 83 Linux
>
> there is an extended partition that contains the linux partitions. i don't
> know if this is correct.
Yes it is correct, but windows now expects a partition on hdb it can use.
Does your windows display an F: drive, that doesn't really exist?
It will not touch hdb when you change the partition ID of hdb1 in 0x85.
as this is linux extended. It will not harm the linux install, if you change
it.
It may wel have been the reason why the FS got corrupted.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Formatting a partition in Linux?
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:40:57 +0200
> It provides you with an endless stream of null's (every management
> recruting company's dream ...).
>
> Contrary to /dev/null though you can read from (try cat /dev/null, then
> cat /dev/zero | od -c .. you'll have to press ^C since od does not
> output repeated lines that way).
>
> Oh and as all files in /dev/ it's a special device file, not a normal
> one .. do not remove it.
you can easily recreate them both if you ever did delete them.
/dev/null : bitbucket, you can write anything to it, you can only read
EOF's from it.
/dev/zero: infinite file, you can write anything to it, you can only read
zero's from it.
> >> You can use mkswap, too but then you'd have to change the partition
> >> type first.
really? I doubt it. You can make swapfiles to. They don't even have a
partition ID.
> >This seems rather cumbersome in that you mean I would have to use fdisk
and
> >change the device ID to Linux swap or 82 and then use mkswap on it? Then
> >change the ID back to Linux Native or 83?
No you don't have to. It may be more obvious for you that a swap-partition
has type 0x82, but the kernel sure won't mind if you make a type 0x0B
partition
a swap space. see `man mkswap` for more info.
> Yes, it's cumbersome and I'd not do it. Just for completeness and should
> you ever happen to run mkswap on your /usr partition, then you'll know by
> now it's going to be useless to ask whether you can get your data back 8-)
>
> In short so -- if, for whatever reason, you want or need to overwrite
> your partition use dd, write an application to write various patterns
> multiple times for security reasons (as root you can open and write
> a disk partition like any other file), or just run mke2fs as whatever
> is there isn't going to interfere.
Not just as root. It depends on the rights you give a user.
> dd is fine for sure as long as all you want to avoid is someone
> peeping around using some hex editor.
cp is fine too.
Eric
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can I use MSN as ISP from Linux box?
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:44:04 GMT
Can I use MSN as dial-up ISP from Linux workstation-desktop running X
Window + kppp + NC4.7x?
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Reply-To: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Downloaded RH7 image won't work...help
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:01:43 GMT
If you burned Iso's there is no need for a floppy. Just boot from CD rom
"Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9a5kb0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I burned the ISO images onto CDs using Easy CD Creator. The separate
files
> all appear to be there. But when I run the install program from a floppy
> boot disk, and tell it to install from CD, everything just stops cold.
What
> could I be doing wrong? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-RW problem
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:28:15 +0200
> The problem is in making audio CD's.
> I am able to make audio-CD's and play them on any computer CD player but
> if I try it on a portable CD player it won't work. The first audio-CD I
> made worked without any problems but I haven't been able to create one
> that works on both systems since.
>
> I have tried:
>
> xcdroast
> gcombust
> cdrecord by itself
> mkisofs and burn iso
Uhmmm. mkisofs for an audio CD?
Don't even try. An audio CD doesn't have a filsystem on it.
So if you can mount those audio CD's, they won't play in a CD player.
Surely xcdroast can make audio CD's but read the manual first.
You don't want to make an image or something first.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 3 April 2001 LXNY Meeting: Vagn Scott will speak on state,
time, client-sysadmin systems, and disaster recovery of whole lans
Date: 2 Apr 2001 05:03:30 -0400
LXNY will have a general meeting Tuesday 3 April 2001.
This meeting is free and open to the public.
The meeting runs from 6:30 pm to 9:00 pm. After the meeting full and
precise instructions on how to get to our traditional place of refreshment
will be given in clear.
Thanks to support of the IBM Corporation, the meeting is at their building
at 590 Madison Avenue at East 57th Street on the Island of Manhattan.
Enter the building at the corner of Madison and 57th and ask at the desk
for the floor and room number.
Both source secret and free software local area networks today suffer from
a general failure to grasp that the lan is but a single device meant to
provide a well defined traditional bundle of services, at a decent level of
ease and reliability. Instead lans are thought of as ad hoc collections of
hardware and software. Often the very specifications of the lan are
treated as being too insignificant to even record. Naturally in such
circumstance, costs are high, performance uncertain, and client
satisfaction low, except for those few clients willing to pay the going
price for very good custom systems administration.
Free software is transforming every sector of the computer industry and in
most cases, a big part of the change is a move to a more open and hence
more competitive market. The free software forces now stand before every
gate of the huge walled empire called "The Desktop". Our agents have
already seized some of the internal lines of communication of The Desktop,
such as some mail systems, print and file daemon systems, etc., but the
final battle has not yet been joined. One of the several secret weapons of
our side, now being developed in plain view, of course, is the single
device lan. The single device lan still needs several standardized parts,
which remain to be placed in mass production. The way-back program is one
such critical part. Sometimes called a "disaster recovery system", the
uses of such a flexible instrument of state recording, preservation, and
impressment extend beyond insurance against the day of gross
hardware/software failure.
Vagn Scott will speak, in general, about his approach to systems
administration, and, in particular, about his latest disaster recovery
tool, which uses one or more CD(s) as the medium of state preservation. On
defined hardware, this tool makes possible three stroke installs of whole
working free *n*x systems.
http://www.geocities.com/fcheck2000
http://integrit.sourceforge.net
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~rammer/aide.html
http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/99/11/11/024200.shtml
http://www.angelfire.com/tn2/mondo
http://mkcdrec.ota.be/project/index.html
http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net
http://freshmeat.net/projects/cdbackuplinux
http://freshmeat.net/projects/md5backup
http://freshmeat.net/projects/multicd
http://freshmeat.net/projects/ozbackup
http://freshmeat.net/projects/plbackitup
http://freshmeat.net/projects/bootrip
http://freshmeat.net/projects/install_mode
http://www.enjoy.ne.jp/~gm/program/cpbk/index.html
http://freshmeat.net/projects/burn_baby_burn
http://freshmeat.net/projects/sise
http://freshmeat.net/projects/snapfs
http://freshmeat.net/projects/sysaudit
http://freshmeat.net/projects/recoveryispossible!
http://freshmeat.net/projects/repairlix
http://www.handshake.de/user/kroening/pgppipe
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200104/200104.htm
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/03/22/1443259
http://www.gnusoftware.com/Emacs/Lisp/virus.el
http://www.textfiles.com/100/famous.bug
http://www.eff.org/pub/Legal/Cases/SJG/crime_and_puzzlement.1
Upcoming events:
There will be an Install Fest within the next few weeks. We will have a
decent net connection and many helpers, so if you are new to free operating
systems, now is a good time to assemble your hardware. The best way to
install any OS new to you is with people right there who are able and
willing to help.
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sparkzz)
Date: 02 Apr 2001 09:03:49 GMT
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Libranet has a 2.4 kernel shipping.
It is a derivative of Debian 2.2
I think it's at
www.libranet.com
$25.00, includes shipping.
.
.
....Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sparkzz)
Date: 02 Apr 2001 09:05:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Libranet ships with kernel 2.4.2
.
.
....Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Just Keijser)
Subject: Re: Samba question: Win98 workstation with a private IP can't see Samba
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:30:43 GMT
Add the lines
remote announce = 192.168.1.255/WORKGROUP
to your /etc/smb.conf line and try again...
The Samba box should now show up in the workgroup WORKGROUP
HTH,
JJK
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stearns28"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Please give me some help on this Samba question.
>>
>> I set up a RH 6.1 server running Samba 2.0.5 as a file server in a LAN
>> of 20+ Win98 workstations. Some of the win98 workstations have a real
>> IP address while others are assigned the 192.168.1.x private addresses.
>>
>> None of the workstations with private IP addresses can see the Samba in
>> their Network Neighborhood. But after I replaced the private IP with a
>> real one, the Samba server showed up and all the shared resources were
>> available.
>>
>> Can Win9x workstations with private IP (192.168.1.x) connect to a Samba
>> server and use the shared resources? Is it the problem with Win9x,
>> Linux, or Samba? Any docs on how to resolve this on-line somewhere?
>> I checked the FAQ on samba.org but couldn't find any help there.
>>
>> Thanks for may info and suggestions.
>>
>> -stearns
>>
>>
===========================
JJK / Jan Just Keijser
Unix/Linux Systems Engineer
smtp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
flames > /dev/null 2>&1
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-RW problem
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:31:08 GMT
Eric wrote:
>
>
> Uhmmm. mkisofs for an audio CD?
> Don't even try. An audio CD doesn't have a filsystem on it.
> So if you can mount those audio CD's, they won't play in a CD player.
> Surely xcdroast can make audio CD's but read the manual first.
> You don't want to make an image or something first.
>
> Eric
I know I was just trying everything I could think of and that was one of
the ideas. I think I got it straightened out. At least I was able to
burn 2 more today.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.140% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Doug Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HDD partion boundary errors?
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:35:20 GMT
I recent upgraded a HDD in a Redhat 6 system. I put the new drive in as
hdb, partitioned it with Linux fdisk, and copied files from the old
disk (as per the HDD upgrade howto). Then I put the new disk in as hda,
booted with a floppy and ran /sbin/lilo.
I have 2 issues:
1. The system doesn't boot from the HDD first time -- it hangs at
"Loading Linux..." (which is after the LILO prompt). I then do a warm
boot the system starts okay.
2. Running fdisk /dev/hda gives these messages:
=====
/dev/hda1 1 39 77458+ 83 Linux
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(40, 59, 63) logical=(38, 27, 63)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(40, 59, 63) should be (40, 63, 63)
/dev/hda2 39 848 1631070 5 Extended
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
phys=(41, 0, 1) logical=(38, 28, 1)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(903, 59, 63) logical=(847, 31, 63)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(903, 59, 63) should be (903, 63, 63)
=====
The system does, however, run fine. Are these two things related? Any
ideas how to resolve?
--
Doug Robbins
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HDD partion boundary errors?
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:12:15 +0200
> I recent upgraded a HDD in a Redhat 6 system. I put the new drive in as
> hdb, partitioned it with Linux fdisk, and copied files from the old
> disk (as per the HDD upgrade howto). Then I put the new disk in as hda,
> booted with a floppy and ran /sbin/lilo.
how did you copy it?
Paid any attention to the partitiontable?
> I have 2 issues:
>
> 1. The system doesn't boot from the HDD first time -- it hangs at
> "Loading Linux..." (which is after the LILO prompt). I then do a warm
> boot the system starts okay.
That's odd.
I'm not sure if it is related.
> 2. Running fdisk /dev/hda gives these messages:
>
> -----
> /dev/hda1 1 39 77458+ 83 Linux
> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
> phys=(40, 59, 63) logical=(38, 27, 63)
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> phys=(40, 59, 63) should be (40, 63, 63)
> /dev/hda2 39 848 1631070 5 Extended
> Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
> phys=(41, 0, 1) logical=(38, 28, 1)
> Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
> phys=(903, 59, 63) logical=(847, 31, 63)
> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> phys=(903, 59, 63) should be (903, 63, 63)
> -----
Ridiculous CHS settings.
> The system does, however, run fine. Are these two things related? Any
> ideas how to resolve?
repartition this disc, or change the CHS settings in the BIOS,
or boot with the hda=C,H,S option.
Make sure that after you plug the disc from hdb to hda the CHS values
are kept the same. You can probably force the BIOS to use a certain
CHS setting. You probably wont be able to run /sbin/lilo with this table,
unless you use the fix-table directive.
Eric
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From: "Sergio Anguita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hard disk as sequential access device????i
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:26:17 -0700
Hi,
I need to use an scsi hd as a sequetial access device. How can I
configure it??? When Linux boots it detect the hd as a direct access device
and I need to use it like a tape.
Thanks!
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From: sven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: boot poblem
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:07:21 GMT
Hello
I have a problem with the bootprocess in my pc.
Whenever i try to boot from the hdd, i get an errormess. that there is no o.s.
installed.
I saw it first when trying to boot win NT4.0 , i tried with an rescue floppy,
no succes, then i installed win2k on the first partition ( c:) an win2k gave
no errormess. when formatting the c: drive. Untill i had to boot from the hdd
to complete the install process of win2k, same error that there was no o.s.
installed. Looks to me that there must be something wrong with the MBR, I
tried to setup the cmos with fail-safe defaults, no succes. I can only boot
from an fdd into linux, or from a cd-rom ( linux, NT, 2k ..) .. just the hdd
won't work.
My linix partitions are far beyond the 1024's cil. ( they are above
the 20'th gb..)so i can't even install lilo in the mbr..( suse 6.3.. kernel
2.2.13 ) Can anybody help me out ? i need NT or 2k badly because some people
here are affraid of anything wich doesn't look like a window, from ms.. and i
don't want to boot from a floppy the rest of my life :-)
greetings
sven
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
mainboard= msi k7t pro 2-a
cpu = athlon 800mhz
ram = 128mb @133mhz
hdd = seagate 30gb 7200rpm dma66
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
( remove "REMOVETHIS." from adress please..)
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot poblem
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:20:56 +0200
> I have a problem with the bootprocess in my pc.
> Whenever i try to boot from the hdd, i get an errormess. that there is no
o.s.
> installed.
just activate the NT's C: partition with fdisk.
> My linix partitions are far beyond the 1024's cil. ( they are above
> the 20'th gb..)so i can't even install lilo in the mbr..( suse 6.3..
kernel
sure you can, just upgrade to the latest LILO and you can .
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot poblem
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:37:04 +0200
> > I have a problem with the bootprocess in my pc.
> > Whenever i try to boot from the hdd, i get an errormess. that there is
no
> o.s.
> > installed.
>
> just activate the NT's C: partition with fdisk.
>
I forgot to mention that this requires the default DOS MBR.
So get a DOS floppy with FDISK.EXE and run fdisk \mbr
Eric
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From: Olivier Colliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tar with multi-volumes
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:49:11 +0200
Hello
1) I would like to create a tar archive divided in several files
(file1.tar, file2.tar ...), each file being less than 650Mb big.
I have tried tar -L 650000 -M but it doesn't work (it seems to only
handle multi-tapes not multi-files)
Does anybody know how to do this ?
2) Is it true that on an ext2 filesystem the maximum size for a file is
2Gb ?
What about other fs (like reiserfs or anything else) ?
Thanks in advance
Olivier
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From: Matthew Wild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Support for LCD Monitors?
Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:49:15 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
>
> LCDs are very similar to CRTs *IF* the connection between the LCD and
> CRT is an analog one (made using a 15-pin VGA cable.) Then things work
> just as described above, though the HSync and Vsync ranges mentioned are
> typically very narrowly defined for an LCD; VSync is always 60Hz. This
I have a transtec, nee Mitsubishi, 18" LCD running with a Vsync over 70Hz.
> is really suboptimal; LCDs are digital while CRTs are analog, and the
> D->A->D conversion occurring with an analog cable can produce "pixel
> swim" and jitter. 'Doze video drivers may have settings to try and
> reduce these artifacts; XFree86 has none that I know of. If you notice
> these problems with your 'Doze setup, they may be worse with XFree86.
>
Matthew
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL http://www.wdc.rl.ac.uk/
World Data Centre - Solar-Terrestrial Physics, Chilton
Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Chilton, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX
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From: Olivier Colliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Backup software
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:53:26 +0200
Hello,
What is the best way to do a backup periodically on a single linux machine with a
cd-recorder (no tape, no networking) ?
I've heard there are tools like AMANDA but they seem to be far too sophisticated for
my purpose.
I've tried with tar but I still have several problems (like splitting archive).
Thanks in advance
Olivier
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