Linux-Misc Digest #531, Volume #21 Wed, 25 Aug 99 00:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: LS120 Super Drive (Ampon Chumpia)
Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Matthias Benkmann)
Re: recursively replace carriage returns (David Taylor)
Re: PPP works (finally) but is too slow for anything (Ross Vandegrift)
dosemu + IBM proprietary things... (Todd Santos)
Re: Linux has finally crashed ("George P. Staplin")
Re: Printer drivers for Linux? Which printer to buy? (Brian McBride)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Scott Lanning)
Re: Unix & PC history, Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
(Jeffrey C. Dege)
problem install StarOffice 5.1 (kee)
Re: why not C++? (Tristan Wibberley)
mount (cedric)
Re: Can't connect modem (Scott Lanning)
Re: bash question: changing path within script? (Jeffrey Smith)
Re: Video4Linux w/ bt878 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
modem setup on Linux... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ppp problems ("T. Pasley")
Re: Can't mount Win98 Fat32 hdd...can anyone help...!!! ("Brendan Murray")
Re: ppp problems ("Matthew O. Persico")
Q: Radio card, which one (Gaetan Lord)
Re: Modem suggestions (Rob Clark)
Re: Give back on ppp connect/Netscape problem ("Matthew O. Persico")
Re: why not C++? (Tristan Wibberley)
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From: Ampon Chumpia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LS120 Super Drive
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:14:11 +0000
I have an EIDE version (made by Mitsubishi), worked well for awhile with
my
SuperMicro mainboard (it shares the secondary EIDE controller with the
Pioneer ATAPI CDROM). Recently, I couldn't use it reliably.
ac.
Jared Hecker wrote:
>
> What if it's not a parallel port type?
>
> Christopher W. Aiken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try: http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html
>
> > ...cwa
>
> > Jared Hecker wrote:
>
> > > I don't think there are any drivers around for it for the IDE version (if
> > > you hear of any please let me know) - if it's a SCSI version you should be
> > > able to set it up as any other SCSI device.
> > >
> > > hth -
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > jh
> > >
> > > cedric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Can anyone help me set up a LS120 Super Drive.
> > >
> > > > I can get it to 1.44mb, but do not know how to get it to 120 mb.
> > >
> > > > cedric
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jared Hecker | HWA Inc. - Oracle architecture and Administration
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ** serving NYC and New Jersey **
>
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Christopher W. Aiken
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > SuSE 6.1, Kernel 2.2.7
> > Mandrake 6.0, Kernel 2.2.9
>
> > The box said 'WIN95/98 or better.' so I installed LINUX!
>
> --
> Jared Hecker | HWA Inc. - Oracle architecture and Administration
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ** serving NYC and New Jersey **
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Benkmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:44:56 GMT
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:52:11 +0200, Oliver Rudolph
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> How can they sound better? The sound is created by the sound card,
>> after all. I don't see how one driver makes a 22Khz sample byte stream
>> sound different than another driver. MSB
>
>Well, there's slight a difference between all the soundcards
You miss the point. I was asking how the ALSA DRIVERS could sound
better than the commercial ones because Tim Izod said
> Or in preference, use the ALSA driver
>(http://www.alsa-project.org or look on freshmeat). The ALSA drivers
>are free, they're GPL and IMHO they sound better. Plus you get
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now, who can tell me how the ALSA drivers could produce better sound?
MSB
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From: David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.bash
Subject: Re: recursively replace carriage returns
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:40:51 +1000
Neil W Rickert wrote:
>
> David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I need to recursively replace carriage returns with newlines in files
> >beneath a specified directory. I quickly knocked up a script but
> >discovered a bug in that it would only work if the filenames and
> >directory names were free of spaces.
>
> > for i in `find "$1" -type f`
> > do
> > tr '\015' '\012' < "$i" > "$i.clean"
> > mv -f "$i.clean" "$i"
> > done
>
> >However, this fails on directories and files that have spaces in their
> >names, such as "Mail Folder". If I enclose the find statement in double
> >quotes the results of the find are treated as one giant string, which is
> >not good.
>
> Use the '-exec' option of 'find'.
I can't get that to work because of the spaces in the filenames.
Perhaps there is something I'm missing as to how to pass the variables
to
the exec call.
--
David
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From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP works (finally) but is too slow for anything
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:11:35 -0100
Often, when the serial UART on your modem is sharing an IRQ with another
device, it can cause the modem to operate very slowly - in my case, it
was in the ballpark of 200-300bps. Check into the serial IRQ
configuration.
Ross Vandegrift
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From: Todd Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dosemu + IBM proprietary things...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:05:33 -0800
hi. not sure if I have the right group here; I couldn't find a *dosemu*
group on dejanews.
I'm trying to get IBM's [proprietary] thinkpad setup programs to work under
dosemu. the program I'm using (ps2.exe), as far as I can figure, can't
access some weird IO address or something. when I run it, I get something
along these lines (the following command line would turn the IrDA port off):
A:\>ps2 ir off
Command not completed for some reason.
Try again later.
If the problem persists, have the system serviced.
this is the same thing I get when I run it on my 486 (non-thinkpad).
so, my question: how do I find out what it's trying to do so I can
let it do its thing?
if I've got the wrong group, please beat me over the head with a large, blunt
object.
- Todd
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From: "George P. Staplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:42:55 -0600
> The only irrepairable file system corruption I've had in
> running linux since 1994 (kernel 1.1.59) is from a hard
> drive that had physical media errors.
>
> >I don't want to install Linux at some site and then get a call to drive
> >100 miles in the middle of the night because it couldn't reboot after a
> >power outage. Any way to decrease the likelihood of having to do this
> >sort of thing after a crash and reboot?
> >
> You might consider dos then. No one running it will lose
> any sleep over a reboot.
>
Last year I moved to a new area that experienced many power outages and my
extended 2 file system was damaged beyond repair many times. I actually had
to reformat three times. The Win95 machine that ran at the same time didn't
have a problem at all.
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From: Brian McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer drivers for Linux? Which printer to buy?
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:51:40 -0400
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Jim Williams wrote:
>I need to buy a printer.
>It has to work with Linux, Win95 (gakk!!), and DOS would be nice too.
>Looking in shops , it seems that printers only come with drivers for
>Win95 these days! Double Gak!!
>I'm guessing that people write drivers for Linux when the printers are
>released. Where can I find out what printers have Linux drivers
>availabe? Is there a website somewhere?
>
>PS
>The printer is for low volume personal use, only neeeds to be B&W,
>though colour would be OK too. A buublejet , maybe? Any recomendations?
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jim Williams
>
>"Yup. I've heard that one too so it must be true."
I just finished a search for a printer also. I settled on the HP 697C. It
works fine using the ghostscript settings. I found that you don't really use
special drivers but that ghostscript translates the postscript that most
programs use into something that most printers of the HP type will understand,
it you configure the ghost script according to the printer. I am sure there
are others out there but this was on the cheap side, less than $150 U.S.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: 25 Aug 1999 02:48:04 GMT
Kenny A. Chaffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
: > Kenny A. Chaffin wrote:
: > >Which is better ? Why? (or what other mag is better)
: >
: > Read them both and make up your own mind.
:
: Well, Jerry, that was helpful -- NOT!!!
I thought it was an appropriate answer. Neither magazine is
objectively better; maybe one is better w.r.t. to another based
on certain criteria, but even those are subjective judgments.
No one here can read your mind, so how could he decide
which was better for you. It's like asking, "Which is better,
'The Matrix' or '2001: A Space Odyssey'?". It's for you to
decide. (or do you judge movies based on what the critics say?)
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"How can we make our teaching so potent in the motional life of man,
that its influence should withstand the pressure of the elemental
psychic forces in the individual?" --Albert Einstein
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Subject: Re: Unix & PC history, Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:36:25 GMT
On 23 Aug 1999 23:27:55 GMT, Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Heeeeeeeez back! wrote:
>
>If you believe that story, I have some oceanfront property to sell you
>in Nebraska. I have seen it in print and in PBS documentaries, over and
>over and over, but it always has the stamp of Microsoft Public Relations
>on it. (And that goes for the story of wonder kid Bill Gates writing
>a BASIC interpreter on a plane ride, too. Gates is a marketing guy;
>I'd be astonished if he ever wrote a line of code in his life.)
I don't know.
Bill _was_ a programmer, though I don't think he was anywhere near as hot
as he thought he was. (Most micro-programmers had absolutely no
knowledge of standard programming practice, which shows in their
quality levels.)
It was Paul Allen, who kludged together a paper-tape boot loader on
the plane ride. It wasn't more than a couple of dozen lines of
code. (Thompson used to be able to toggle the Unix boot loader
into the front panel of a PDP-11 from memory.)
Killdall was off flying his airplane, his wife refused to sign IBM's
non-disclosure agreements, and they headed back to MS. MS promised
the world, went off and bought some rights to QDOS from Tim Patterson,
and resold it to IBM. Patterson sued, of course, claiming that they
hadn't licensed the right to relicense. Killdall sued, too, claiming
that there was CP/M code inside QDOS. Patterson eventually committed
suicide, Killdall was killed in a bar brawl.
None of it makes Microsoft look particularly clean.
--
Quidam ludunt, quidam bibunt,
quidam indiscrete vivunt,
sed in ludu qui morandur,
ex his quidam denudantur.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kee)
Subject: problem install StarOffice 5.1
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:42:47 GMT
Hello everyone,
I am newbies in Linux.
Recently i download StarOffice 5.1 for Linux and install on my Redhat
6.0. While i am installing(around 40%), an error occur says that
error extracting some file, maybe no enough disk space.
I am sure that i have enough disk space(around 800MB free) on my Intel
166MMX pc which come with 48MB EDO RAM, and my SWAP partition for
Linux is around 240MB.
Do i need to enable or mount the SWAP partition ? Or is it automatic
mount/enable during boot time ?
Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:11:16 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tristan Wibberley wrote:
>
> What trigraph would you use for that symbol,
> \\' maybe.
>
> C = A \\'x B;
> C = A \\'. B;
Doh, trigraphs use ? don't they, and ' is already used.
??. then since it's an alternative to using a method.
C = A ??.x B;
C = A ??.. B;
This is really nasty *<:o) - but elegant in it's way. It'll probably
never happen anyway.
--
Tristan Wibberley
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From: cedric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mount
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:11:06 -0700
While booting up I get the following message,
Mount: /dev/hdc can't read superblock failed
Here is the entry in /etc/fstab
/dev/hdc /mnt/LS120 ext2 default 0 0
Ideas?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.pacifier.com/~cedric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: Can't connect modem
Date: 25 Aug 1999 02:24:22 GMT
Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've got a USR 56k non-PCI modem. It is NOT a winmodem.
> For some reason, in windows it's set up on COM 5, IRQ 4, which
> shares the same resourses as COM 1. The is nothing on COM 1.
> So I used Linuxconfig to set the modem up on ttyS0. I've used
> setserial to set the IRQ of ttyS0 to 4.
Did you try ttyS4 ? (I dunno...)
> So when I use minicom to test to see if I can dial out, it
> initializes the modem (or so it says) but when it says it's
> dialing, it is really doing nothing.
Is the modem in minicom setup right? Sometimes it can be /dev/modem,
which is a symbolic link. Is /dev/modem pointing to ttyS0?
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"How can we make our teaching so potent in the motional life of man,
that its influence should withstand the pressure of the elemental
psychic forces in the individual?" --Albert Einstein
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From: Jeffrey Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash question: changing path within script?
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:44:59 -0400
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G. Pollack wrote:
> I'd like to be able to change the path from within a bash script. The
> script, called set_path (with execute permission set, of course)
> consists of a single line:
>
> PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path
>
> Executing set_path results in no error messages, but inspecting $PATH
> from the command line, shows that it hasn't changed. The above command
> works fine, however, when typed in directly at the command prompt.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to change the path from within a script?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Gerald Pollack
> Dept. of Biology, McGill University
Try executing the script with a dot preceding it. For example, if
you shell script is set_path ...
. set_path
... Note there is a space between the dot and the name of the script.
When a shell script executes it creates a child process. This process
inherits a few things from the parent - the environment variable PATH
being one of them. Your script modifies the PATH variable in the
child but does not effect the value of the PATH variable in the parent.
When the child process terminates, you are left running the
parent process with the same old value of PATH.
Running the script with a period (.) preceding the name causes any
mods in environment variables within the script to change the
environment variables in the parent.
If you don't like typing the dot then use the following alias ....
alias set_path_working='. set_path'
Now typing set_path_working will do it for you.
--
Jeffrey Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This Machine Runs on LINUX
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G. Pollack wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I'd like to be able to change the path from within
a bash script. The
<BR>script, called set_path (with execute permission set, of course)
<BR>consists of a single line:
<P>PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path
<P>Executing set_path results in no error messages, but inspecting $PATH
<BR>from the command line, shows that it hasn't changed. The above command
<BR>works fine, however, when typed in directly at the command prompt.
<P>Can anyone tell me how to change the path from within a script?
<P>Thanks,
<P>--
<BR>Gerald Pollack
<BR>Dept. of Biology, McGill University</BLOCKQUOTE>
Try executing the script with a dot preceding it. For example,
if
<BR>you shell script is set_path ...
<P>. set_path
<P>... Note there is a space between the dot and the name of the script.
<P>When a shell script executes it creates a child process. This
process
<BR>inherits a few things from the parent - the environment variable PATH
<BR>being one of them. Your script modifies the PATH variable in
the
<BR>child but does not effect the value of the PATH variable in the parent.
<BR>When the child process terminates, you are left running the
<BR>parent process with the same old value of PATH.
<P>Running the script with a period (.) preceding the name causes any
<BR>mods in environment variables within the script to change the
<BR>environment variables in the parent.
<P>If you don't like typing the dot then use the following alias ....
<P>alias set_path_working='. set_path'
<P>Now typing set_path_working will do it for you.
<PRE>--
Jeffrey Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This Machine Runs on LINUX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Video4Linux w/ bt878
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:15:08 GMT
In article <7pup69$gsp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Brubaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I recently got a Phoebe TV Master card for my PC - a bt878 based TV tuner/
>video input device. I have not tested the other inputs yet, but when I
>try to tune to a station, all I get is static.
>
>I'm using XawTV set to NTSC and NTSC-cable. The device works in Win98,
>so it's not hardware related.
>
>The static is interesting -- only the first few lines of the display
>are staticky.
>
>Is it possible that the tuner is not supported but the video is? I'm
>going to have to try the other inputs later, when I find a device to hook
>up.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff
>
>
I don't know how you acquired video4linux. There are files that
come included with recent kernels (bttv.o, i2c.o, etc.). I originally
got a source tarball. I learned to copy over the relevant files from
the kernel source tree, but two files I did need from that tarball were
MAKEDEV (to make my devices) and update, a script. The script is edited
to set your tuner type. You might try experimenting with that.
--
No statement is wholly true, not even this one.
also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: modem setup on Linux...
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:58:37 GMT
I just installed Linux-Mandrake and I went
through the various setup routines both through
the X-Windows Control Panel and the KPPP program
and neither one could open my modem (with or
without the proper COM port address). My modem
is a Compaq 33.6 kps. Is there any other setup
method to fix this or does it have to do with the
kernel or ppp versions?...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "T. Pasley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp problems
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:27:39 GMT
I say don't give up!!!
Try going through windows, and editing your connection shortcut, so that
you bring up the terminal window after dialling...
Take careful note of what your ISP login and password, etc are!
Use this info to tell KPPP what to expect, and what to reply with - but
don't be too specific...
(I'm assuming KPPP is like pre-KDE stuff, which is what I'm using, and
once I had it entered correctly Linux worked fine!)
FYI, I use (under Linux), VTWM, and control panel to configure everything,
as opposed to LinuxConf, KontrolPanel, etc..
Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the help guys.
> Heck, as crappy as Windows is, it at least
> can manage a simple ISP connection without having to become a
> programming expert first. It's probably just frustration getting the
> best of me, I'll give it another shot after I simmer down a little...
> ;-)
>
> Thanks again, the help is appreciated..
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Reply-To: "Brendan Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Brendan Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't mount Win98 Fat32 hdd...can anyone help...!!!
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:45:54 -0400
Cantona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
<snip>
> # mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /dosd
Have you tried to mount it as FAT32 ;-)
# mount -t msdos etc.
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From: "Matthew O. Persico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ppp problems
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:53:08 -0400
One more thing. Are you running the latest code? If you are running RedHat,
get thee to the errata page and download EVERYTHING that has to do with KDE
or NET and install it. I did and whamo I'm on. Now all I havd to figure out
is why the connections aren't the 48k speed I get under NT.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the help guys. Unfortunately, nothing has done the
> trick yet. I have been using KPPP and tried upping the timeout and
> adding netscape to the program execution box, but I still get the
> timeouts. I worked through the 11+ page ppp sheet that was suggested,
> but it made no changes that I could tell. The log generated is very
> ambiguous and states no problems until it shows "terminating on signal
> 15" or something like that. It basicaly just sits there trying to
> "connect to the network" before it times out - every time. There were
> a couple times I tried to do something outlined in the sheet but
> received a "permission denied." Interestng since I was logged in as
> root. Anyway, I have sent emails to my ISP and the support company I
> have access to for purchasing the software but have heard nothing back
> of course - and probably won't either if past experience is any
> indicator. After spending about 10 hours the past couple days just
> trying to get Linux to connect to my ISP I'm thinking it probably
> isn't worth the hassle. Heck, as crappy as Windows is, it at least
> can manage a simple ISP connection without having to become a
> programming expert first. It's probably just frustration getting the
> best of me, I'll give it another shot after I simmer down a little...
> ;-)
>
> Thanks again, the help is appreciated..
--
Matthew O. Persico
You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold dead oversized
control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gaetan Lord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Q: Radio card, which one
Date: 25 Aug 1999 02:40:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
I would like to know if it's possible to have a radio card install
with RH 6.0, and have the sound output going through the sound card.
I have a Zoltrix radio plus 108, but I'm not able to install it. It
work OK with windows NT. I tried to have info on how to configure
the cards, but I didn't found anythings.
So, is there any radio cards who could meet my request, and where could I
found a mini-HOWTO on radio cards.
Tx
--
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Gaetan Lord - FTA - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - SGI - Montreal, Canada
pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (200 car. max)
"There is no future in time traveling"
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Subject: Re: Modem suggestions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:36:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
remove-to-reply) (Matt Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But does anyone have any suggestions of inexpensive internal v.90 modems
>that DO work under Linux? I'm looking for something cheap and dirty, and if
>worse comes to worst I have an old USR 28.8 that I could slap in. It's just
>I could benefit from the experience of some of you folk who've solved the
>problem.
Try http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html <-- Linux/modem compat. list
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From: "Matthew O. Persico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Give back on ppp connect/Netscape problem
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:23:42 -0400
Which all just begs the question:
How is it done under Windows? I just enter a phone number, username,
password, click a couple of TPC/IP settings (dynamic IP, dynamic DNS) and
I'm off. No fiddling with scripts. No fidding with /etc/resolv (which
really sticks in my craw). How is it that the supposedly brain dead system
makes connection to ISPs a no-op yet, from the number of PPP subject I read
aross many a Linux news group, on the Linux side, ISP connection is fraught
with peril?
MotorHead wrote:
>
> I have fought this problem for a couple of days now. It was
> exascerbated by the fact I had also changed ISP's, but this turned out
> to be the clue I was looking for. What leads one astray is that the
> modem can connect, but you still may not be logged into you ISP and
> ppp initiated. My other clue was my /var/ppp/messages stated that my
> "login script failed". What I did then was start a minicom session and
> watch what my ISP was asking for during the login process, and then
> used this information to properly change my login script. What had me
> fouled up was that my previous ISP used "login:" to ask for the
> username, while my new one used "username:". The default "expect"
> for Gnome network configuration is "ogin:", a substring for "login:"
> My new ISP, as stated used "username:", so the correct
> substring for the "expect" entry would be "sername:" or something
> shorter. Just "ame:" would work. Don't forget the colon and quotes are
> not necessary. Once this was changed, the modem connected, the login
> took place, and ppp was started by the ISP. Netscape came up and
> connected to it's home page. To change this you must edit the ppp0
> interface. Edit the first "expect" entry ( under the communication tab
> for Gnome network configurator) and change the substring to match what
> your ISP asks for. With Kppd, the is a separate login script tab when
> you go into setup/account setup/edit. This worked for me and I hope
> some others.
> Isn't this fun!
>
> On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:05:36 -0400, "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\""
> <*****@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm able to dial out and connect to my ISP with kppp, but, when I start
> >Netscape, or any other program that uses the internet, I get a can't connect
> >error message. It seems that I may not have a permission or path set
> >properly. I have read books and Howto's and still can't resolve this. I'm
> >sure it's something simple that I'm overlooking. Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
--
Matthew O. Persico
You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold dead oversized
control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:03:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:19:57 +0100, Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >A general operator syntax, now that would be nice :)
> >
> >
> > C = A `x B; // cross product
> > C = A `. B; // dot product
>
> Why not just overload, say * for the dot, and % for the cross? There is no
> shortage of operators.
The asterisk would be reasonable for dot, but I'd prefer it for the
cross. Whether modulo division could be meaningful for vectors and
matrices I'm not sure, but to me, the C modulo division operator is for
modulo divisions.
--
"What do you mean, I can't initialize things in an assert()?"
-- Unknown programmer
Tristan Wibberley
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