Linux-Misc Digest #531, Volume #26 Tue, 12 Dec 00 14:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Telnet problem (DualIP)
Re: Linux freeze (dixon)
Ext. modem that can do voice codec? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: display error (Kae Verens)
host name lookup failure????? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Configuring ehternet card ("Sudhakar R.")
Re: Mandrake upgrade: terrible ("Tom")
Stampede Linux ("John E. Garrott Sr")
Re: New To Linux - Distributions (Rod Smith)
Re: howto verify I'm online??? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Checking for already compiled kernel options (James Blanford)
Re: export display from aix to redhat 7.0 (Paul Kimoto)
Is Linux/Mandrake good? (Matthew B)
Re: RH6.2 only supports 8.3 Filenames? (James Blanford)
stream objects ("Cekir")
Re: Patch too big for floppy (Christopher Michael Collins ())
Re: Star Office installation Q. (Aulne)
Setting Reply-to in pine (Mark J. Tilford)
Re: What is the difference? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Accessing the DOS partition while using Linux with UMSDOS filesystem (mike)
Re: Setting Reply-to in pine ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: host name lookup failure?????
Re: (Newbie) Mandrake 7.2 less buggy than Red Hat 7.0? ("Jeff Susanj")
Lilo: hiding one partition and unhiding other when booting?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Telnet problem
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:13:03 GMT
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:41:16 +0100, "Danny Wijsman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Try to add the address and name of one of your clients in
>> >/etc/hosts of your telnet server, this might help.
>>
>> That's the common workaround , that also solved that problem here.
>> But how to prevent telnetd to do a reserve DNS for the telnet clients
>> IP address??
>>
>> DualIP
>
>Setting up our local DNS server.
Still a workaround
On most LANs with MS based clients a DNS isn't really necessary.
I'd like an extra telnet command line option so in stead of :
Last login: Tue Dec 12 15:03:21 from "reverse DNS machinename here"
it should echoe:
Last login: Tue Dec 12 15:03:21 from "IP-Address"
DualIP
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From: dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:26:38 GMT
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:07:22 GMT, "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>As shocking as the title may be, it just happened to me. I was surfing the
>internet using netscape 4.7?, and suddenly everything freezed and I had to
>hard-reboot the computer to regain control. The mouse pointer was moving,
>but except that, the system didn't respond to anything.
>
>Maybe it has something to do with netscape, not Linux? I am running Redhat
>7. Has anybody experienced simliar things? Thanks.
>
>
You may have better luck running a different browser. Although Opera
(http://www.opera.com) is still in beta, it's reported to be very good
quality.
Also, I believe that Gibson Research (http://www.grc.com) has found
that the Netscape Smart Download utility is spyware. I don't know if
this spyware is incorporated in the linux version of the browser but
the fact that *any* version is spyware leaves the software suspect.
Why take the chance??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ext. modem that can do voice codec?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:18:02 GMT
I want to write software to create a voice mail function using linux as
the OS. I bought a 3COM/US Robotics external V90 "voice modem" and
discovered much to my misery that 3COM will not publish a programmer's
specification (and the application they supply to do this function is
only for windoze.)
Anyway I'm back to square one, and no friend of 3COM, so I was advised
to try in the Linux community to see if there was such a modem that
could be adapted for this function. Ideally I'd like to use the modem to
input/output voice and touch tones on a phone line, through a serial
port.
Any suggestions for hardware?
Tnx,
Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Kae Verens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: display error
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:44:30 +0000
Lodo Nicolino wrote:
>
> Hi i am nico.
> I have got a red-hat 6.2.
> when i try to use utility like modemtool or printtool from the character
> prompt i got the following message:
> " no display name and no $DISPLAY enviroment variable ".
> Anybody can tell me where i have to set that variable.
IIRC, those programs require X to be running. X will supply the $DISPLAY
variable.
Kae
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: host name lookup failure?????
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:49:52 GMT
Hi, I am trying to connect to the Net via my newly installed Linux box
(debian 2.1 with a 14.4K modem).
I am using the wvdial app called from root to get the pppd running,
and it does seem to be working, because these are the status messages I
get:
Iniitalizing modem
sending AT2
AT2
OK
Sending ATQ8...[a bunch of other stuff...]
modem initialized
waiting for carrier
ATDT 7135538649
Waiting for carrier
ATDT 7135548649
CONNECT 9600
carrier detected. Waiting for prompt
PPP negotiation detected
Starting PPPD at tues, dec...
...
The modem sounds fine when it connects. Very normal.
then it just blocks, so I go to another "virtual window" using alt-f2
and get another root prompt and I try to get lynx running, but it
always comes up with
"host name lookup failure". Same thing for FTP.
When I use control-c to kill pppd, I can hear the modem disconnecting;
it all sounds fine.
I figure this might have something to do with DNS, so I looked for the
etc/resolv.cong file and there was none, and so I created it and it
contains only the following two lines:
....
domain mylinuxisp.com <--the name of my ISP
nameserver 294.251.209.8, 204.251.209.9 <-ISP info
....
Any clues as to what I need to do?
I do not have X windows running. I don't need it, and I know nothing
about the video card of this old P-120 computer. I just wanted to be
able to get lynx runnig or FTP or telnet, or to make a Perl HTTP client
work.
Thanks
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http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuring ehternet card
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:03:49 -0500
Hi all,
I recently installed my Redhat 7.0 linux box and have been having trouble
trying to configure it for the LAN here.
I use a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 LAN card. On booting the kernel says.
Bringing up interface eth0 insmod /...../tulip.o : insmod eth0 failed
Any help to resolve this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
-sudhakar
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From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake upgrade: terrible
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:10:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrew Brooks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had a clean installation of Mandrake 7.0 and tried the 7.2 upgrade
> yesterday. What a disaster!
The general consensus with 7.2 is to do a clean install,
not an upgrade. There's many reasons for this, but the 2 main
reasons are the shift to compliance with the LSB, and the
differences bewtween KDE2 and KDE1. Do a fresh 7.2 install
and I believe most all your problems will go away.
Tom
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From: "John E. Garrott Sr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stampede Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:27:07 -0800
Can anyone else reach the Stampede Linux site,
http://www.stampede.org/ ?
I can ping it ok, but either netscape or lynx seem
to connect, but wait forever for a reply.
TIA,
John
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:26:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
1on1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mandrake-Linux includes several Linux books with their 7.2 CD's
> REAL books...not just something they wrote.
>
> SAMS, Learn Linux in 24 hrs.
> SAMS, Learn Mandrake in 24 hrs.
> ...and another.
Precisely which ones come with the package depend on the Mandrake
package (there are at least three). I know that my own _Linux Hardware
Handbook_ is included with three of them.
Note that these are books *ON CD*, not printed books.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: howto verify I'm online???
Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:30:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cryofan wrote:
> And I alt-f2 to anohter virtual window and try to start Lynx. so that I can
> verify I am online. But Lynx won't start.
What do you mean by "won't start"? What happens if you tell it what web
page to get, e.g., "lynx http://www.kernel.org/"? Do you have the
(numerical) address of your DNS server(s) listed in /etc/resolv.conf?
> What can I run while the pppd is running on wvdial in order to verify that I
> am online? I assume I need to switch to another virtual window in order to
> run another app while wvdial is running?
Yes, unless wvdial is backgrounded. You can run "/sbin/route" and see
whether there's a line starting "default". If so, then your computer
believes that it knows how to contact arbitrary places on the internet.
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Blanford)
Subject: Re: Checking for already compiled kernel options
Date: 12 Dec 2000 17:35:14 GMT
In article <915fl4$g0g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is there any way to check if currently running kernel is SMP capable?
> in other words, if the kernel was compiled with SMP options enabled
> or not?
If you rolled it yourself and saved the .config file you can load
it after running
make xconfig
in /usr/src/linux. Then browse through the options to see what the
kernel supports.
If it's a store-bought, the only advice I can offer is to run a program
that requires SMP and look for warning messages from the kernel.
More specifically, I don't believe the kernel provides any particular
support for SMP. If you want to run it over TCP/IP, you need that
capability and the same for PPP or ethernet or however you are going
to network. If it's an a.out program you need a.out support. If it's
elf you need that.
I strongly suspect that if you have a network connection running, SMP
should work. Almost all kernels have the support I mentioned above.
If you're having problems, it's most likely a setup issue or you need
some compatible libraries.
Good Luck,
- jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: export display from aix to redhat 7.0
Date: 12 Dec 2000 12:35:53 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <913gdq$v7a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> on linux box #xhost + (let anyone connect to X to begin)
By "anyone", this means "anyone", i.e., everyone on the entire internet.
Anyone can connect to your X server and do anything (that you can) with it,
for example, spy on your keystrokes.
See http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Remote-X-Apps.html for a more secure
approach.
--
Paul Kimoto
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: Matthew B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is Linux/Mandrake good?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:42:17 +1100
Well, anyone?......any thoughts????
Is linux/mandrake any good?
AND is there something wrong with RH7 or is it just me?
I have had version 5.2 through to 7. thats when the troubles started....now
i,m checking out this so called MDK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Blanford)
Subject: Re: RH6.2 only supports 8.3 Filenames?
Date: 12 Dec 2000 17:46:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan De Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On my 2nd HD, I use both Win32 and Linux. I've noticed that at least>> on my
>machine, Linux doesn't support long file names. Everything is
>> 8.3 format (i.e., filename.ext becomes filena~1.ext).
> Hi,
> Wrong modules loaded !
> lsmod should return the module vfat + msdos (fat + msdos is what you will
> see).
> Jo
I beg to differ, good sir. fat is the underlying support for dos file
systems. msdos supports the old 8.3 file naming system. vfat supports
windows long file names.
So you are right he will see fat + msdos, but he needs fat + vfat.
So Johan, try
modprobe -r msdos
modprobe vfat
if that doesn't work, you will likely need to recompile your kernel.
Good Luck,
- jim
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From: "Cekir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: stream objects
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:50:08 +0100
Linker doesn't find stream objects methods (fstream, iostream, etc.) The
error is "undefined reference...". It probably needs a library, bat which
one? And where should I look for such information - man doesn't find
anything about it, apropos too.
And By the way, why are the copying constructors of the stream classes
private? If I need to use them, may I just change the header, or should I do
something else?.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Cekir.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins ())
Subject: Re: Patch too big for floppy
Date: 12 Dec 2000 18:27:51 GMT
>> What is a person to do without being able to patch the
>> kernel with floppies? Don't patches typically try to stay
>> under 1.4megs?
>Simplest thing to do would be to 'split' the patch into two pieces,
>copy it over, then 'cat' the two pieces together.
Okay. from the man page it looks like
bash-2.00$ ls patch*
patch-2.2.18.bz2
bash-2.00$ split -b 1240k patch-2.2.18.bz2
bash-2.00$ ls -l x*
-rw-r----- 1 chris 1269760 Dec 12 09:54 xaa
-rw-r----- 1 chris 1234966 Dec 12 09:55 xab
bash-2.00$ mount /dev/fd0 /mnt <--- insert floppy #1
bash-2.00$ mv xaa /mnt
bash-2.00$ umount /mnt <--- remove floppy #1
bash-2.00$ mount /dev/fd0 /mnt <--- insert floppy #2
bash-2.00$ mv xab /mnt
bash-2.00$ umount /mnt <--- remove floppy #2
Then put these two in a directory on my laptop and type:
bash-2.00$ cat xaa xab >patch-2.2.18.bz2
Is this approximately the proceedure to get the
patch onto my laptop??
I did this from memory so if there are any glaring
errors please write them out for me and anyone else
who will be doing this on 2.2.18
Thank you,
--Chris
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From: Aulne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office installation Q.
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:14:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just downloaded SO 5.2 from Sun. This comes in 10 files, plus 2 additional
> files with some extras. Noting this is clearly a multi-part archive, I thought I
> could just run the first file, the only one with the ELF header, and it'll
> extract everything for me. No luck: 'Text file busy'. Ok, so it's writing over
> itself (maybe a sensible thing to do for a self-extractor), but before it's even
> executed? ldd gives the same result.
I'm sorry I don't have any answer to this since I've downloaded SO in one
file, but while on the subject, anyone knows how to install SO for
multi-users? I know, there are instructions files at Sun's in zip and pdf
formats, but I tried downloading them several times and in several languages
but all downloads did not succeed.
Alain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark J. Tilford)
Subject: Setting Reply-to in pine
Date: 12 Dec 2000 18:33:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm using pine for my email. Is there a way I can set it up so that it
includes a reply-to line?
--
=======================
Mark Jeffrey Tilford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is the difference?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:53:20 +0000
Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> What is the difference between Publishers, Standard, and Professinal Edition
> of Linux?
I have noooo idea what you're on about.
There is no "publishers", "standard" or "professional" edition of linux.
There may be for different distros, but as you mentioned no distribution,
the question is meaningless.
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Accessing the DOS partition while using Linux with UMSDOS filesystem
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:49:13 GMT
Hi,
I am using Pygmy Linux on a laptop under the umsdos filesystem.
I would like to access some DOS files. Is there any way to access
the DOS files while using Linux on the same partition?
Mike
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to in pine
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:57:27 GMT
* "Mark J. Tilford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using pine for my email. Is there a way I can set it up so that it
> includes a reply-to line?
Try the Menu->Setup->Configure screen or ask in comp.mail.pine
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
"Hey, sexy mama. Wanna kill all the humans?" -Bender
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: host name lookup failure?????
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:56:13 -0500
while you are dialing out, look at /var/log/messages on another console.
tail /var/log/messages
watch for any mention of local ip , remote ip etc.
Then
ping a known ip address like your dns server or something.
If you see "No route to host" then the dialing program needs to add a
default route to the routing table when the line is up.
check the "route" program.
( man route )
or just type route at the console, and it will tell you what it expects.
hth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:915kvd$l20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi, I am trying to connect to the Net via my newly installed Linux box
> (debian 2.1 with a 14.4K modem).
>
> I am using the wvdial app called from root to get the pppd running,
> and it does seem to be working, because these are the status messages I
> get:
>
> Iniitalizing modem
> sending AT2
> AT2
> OK
> Sending ATQ8...[a bunch of other stuff...]
> modem initialized
> waiting for carrier
> ATDT 7135538649
> Waiting for carrier
> ATDT 7135548649
> CONNECT 9600
> carrier detected. Waiting for prompt
> PPP negotiation detected
> Starting PPPD at tues, dec...
> ...
>
> The modem sounds fine when it connects. Very normal.
>
> then it just blocks, so I go to another "virtual window" using alt-f2
> and get another root prompt and I try to get lynx running, but it
> always comes up with
> "host name lookup failure". Same thing for FTP.
>
> When I use control-c to kill pppd, I can hear the modem disconnecting;
> it all sounds fine.
>
> I figure this might have something to do with DNS, so I looked for the
> etc/resolv.cong file and there was none, and so I created it and it
> contains only the following two lines:
> ....
>
> domain mylinuxisp.com <--the name of my ISP
> nameserver 294.251.209.8, 204.251.209.9 <-ISP info
>
> ....
> Any clues as to what I need to do?
>
> I do not have X windows running. I don't need it, and I know nothing
> about the video card of this old P-120 computer. I just wanted to be
> able to get lynx runnig or FTP or telnet, or to make a Perl HTTP client
> work.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Newbie) Mandrake 7.2 less buggy than Red Hat 7.0?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:13:51 GMT
As far as bugs, I have been running RedHat 7.0 for a month or so and I
haven't seen any major problems. Also, their web site has been providing
fixes regularly so that if there are problems in the basic distribution they
are quickly being repaired. I have not been able to install Mandrake on my
system since it is not a pentium but an AMD 586 and thus Mandrake is not
compatible.
Jeff S.
Sinner from the Prairy wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Garry Heaton wrote:
>
>> I'm about to select my first Linux/UNIX OS and have narrowed-down the
choice
>> to Mandrake 7.2 or Red Hat 7.0. I've heard Red Hat 7.0 is buggy. Is
Mandrake
>> therefore more stable? Are there any significant differences between the
2?
>> I tend towards the ease of use end of the spectrum as I want to
concentrate
>> on Perl development not OS expertise.
>
>I say go Mandrake 7.2 all the way.
>
>Choose "development install" for your needs.
>
>> Also, can I run Apache for desktop development with both of these
options? I
>> read somewhere that Mandrame 7.2 is designed for the desktop, not the
>> server, but I understand by this that I will still be able to use it as a
>> desktop development environment with Apache but not as a server machine.
>> Please correct if this isn't the case.
>
>Both have Apache. If the default "development" install doesn't provide
>you with a working apache, then, install it and configure it graphicaly.
>
>Go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en and http://www.mandrakeuser.org
>for more info.
>
>
>> Thanks
>> Garry Heaton
>
>
>
>Salut,
>Sinner
>--
>http://www.geocities.com/sinner_prairy
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> |\ Linux User # 89976
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo: hiding one partition and unhiding other when booting?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:05:39 -0500
Hello,
I am having some difficulty figuring this out.
conf:
hda1 : ext2 ( Active, with lilo )
hda2: fat16 nt
hda3 :fat16 win98
hda4 : extd
I would like lilo o unhide hda2 , and hide hda3 when I boot NT . conversely,
I would like lilo to hide hd2 and unhide hda3 when I boot win98 . That is, I
do not want either of them trying to boot from "C:", for what ever reason.
No, installing win98 into a D: drive ( and having both visible ) is not a
solution - it will still use the boot block on hda2 .
My previous approach was to make the nt partition ntfs, and win98 fat32.
That way, win98 thinks hda3 is "C:" (sigh!) .
I have heard that lilo can hide and unhide partition while booting, so I
took a look in the docs, and got so far as preparing a changes subsection
for the nt and win98 sections. What comes next ?
I am not sure how to define the rules for a fat 16 partition.
Any ideas ?
joseph
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