Linux-Misc Digest #531, Volume #24 Sat, 20 May 00 06:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (haysus)
chmod problem (marge schott)
compiling (Daffy)
a few questions please ("AJ")
Re: compiling (Bob Martin)
Re: sendmail daemon start slow after changing hostname (Bob Martin)
sound over network (root)
time qoutes (faisal gillani)
Re: site wide search capability (Mike Thompson)
Re: 3com 3C509B Etherlink III with RedHat (fred smith)
you ll love this!!!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What's the difference between NT4 And Linux?
Re: What's the difference between NT4 And Linux? (Richard Steiner)
you ll love this!!!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Maximum Linux (Steve)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David T. Blake)
BAD MAGIC NUMBER IN SUPERBLOCK ("Tony Reutter")
Re: Help!!!..MAKING A NEWSGROUP LIST...!!!! (Tux)
serial mice & cheap motherboards ? (Mike Keiser)
Re: sendmail question (Miroslav Zubcic)
Re: chmod problem ("Lonni J. Friedman")
Re: FreeBSD and Linux (david parsons)
Re: How to "format" under Linux ("Totoro")
Re: Maximum Linux (DanH)
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From: haysus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 20 May 2000 00:10:04 -0500
>No distribution can put anything in /usr/local. That's for YOU to make
>non-distro-spawned additions in.
I ran Caldera 2.3 for a while (not the best idea) and I recall it
installing lots of stuff to /usr/local. Perhaps I'm wrong, it's been a
few months.
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From: marge schott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: chmod problem
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:32:06 -0700
I installed linux and ran this crazy bastille program and it created a
.rhosts file in my root directory with access perms -r-- --- ---. I
now cannot modify this file. Does anyone know how I can get rid of it?
thanks.
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From: Daffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compiling
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 05:30:10 GMT
Ok, I've got the source (.c) file and a Makefile, now what? I know how to
compile a kernel, but this has got me baffeled. I am not a programmer by
any means.
Thanks
--
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From: "AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: a few questions please
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 05:42:40 GMT
Hi.. I am an experience Novell tech (CNE) but new to linux and want to get
windows out of my life as soon as possible... I Would like someone to answer
a few questions for me.. First i want to install linux on the following
system,,, P II 400 , 64 ram , 4.8 G hd , SB pci sound , 4meg ATI Rage
video, and US Robotics pci 56k, and 3com pci net card( 3c509). I know this
more than meets the requirements. My questions are the following
1) I use a high speed isp ( called : vibe) not a cable modem but adsl. it
used a newbridge networks MainStreet in my home and i use a 3com net card.
Is there any known problem settting lunix up on this?
2) I just got Storm linux does anyone have instructions how to install it in
a partition without it destroying the other one's? Please Help
3) this storm linux? is it ok? any things i should know or be warned? what
to use instead? you opinion is appreciated..
Please Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compiling
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 01:05:22 -0500
Daffy wrote:
>
> Ok, I've got the source (.c) file and a Makefile, now what? I know how to
> compile a kernel, but this has got me baffeled. I am not a programmer by
> any means.
>
> Thanks
>
If that is all that the package came with , you just type make at the
command prompt. The make utility will use the MAkefile to compile the
source.
--
Bob Martin
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail daemon start slow after changing hostname
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 01:26:58 -0500
kaming wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> For RedHat Linux 6.2, I have changed the host name by "hostname
> newhostname". After reboot, the sendmail daemon start very slow (hang
> about for several minutes). Do any one know how to solved this? what
> file should I edit...
>
> Thanx a lots!
> Henry Chui
sendmail is looking for a fully qualified domain name and can't find
one. edit /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig/network. Or if you don't need
sendmail, most probably don't, just turn it off so that it doesn't start
at bootup.
--
Bob Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Subject: sound over network
Date: 20 May 2000 06:24:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I have 2 pc's:
- linux 2.2.5-15 redhat 6
many mem&mhz X3
!!No souncard
/\ client01
|
| 10 mb ethernet (working)
|
\/ server
- linux 2.2.14 redhat 6
p120, 16m
working souncard
too slow for a good x
And I want a xmms (or even cat>/dev/dsp) on client01 soundfile
to make some noise out of the server...
I have some kind of esd installed on both pc's , but I don't get the port:host
explanation in the esd "documentaition"
Who can help me?
This is only for testing, I can play my music comfortably trough the server,
so dont tell me to buy a soundcard
(ps I know I'm root)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] my be down this week, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: faisal gillani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: time qoutes
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 06:30:04 GMT
I want to specify user specific time to acess network how to do that ??
Like user1 has 10 hours specific to use network
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Thompson)
Subject: Re: site wide search capability
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:12:43 GMT
Hi Oktay,
You may want look at www.atomz.com. Atomz.com is an alternative
hosted search service to Searchbutton.com that is also free, but does
not display ad banners on the search results and allows 100%
customization to blend seamlessly with your web site. For a quick
example of another Atomz.com customer, you can try searching
www.oreilly.com and see what they did with Atomz.com search. You
would be getting the exact same search engine that Oreilly uses.
I hope you find this information useful.
Mike Thompson
CTO/Co-Founder
Atomz.com
On Mon, 15 May 2000 17:36:21 GMT, Oktay Altunergil
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a website hosted on linuxave.net and I am currently using
>searchbutton.com's search service to enable searching for keywords within
>my site. However searchbutton is a free commercial service that displays
>ads on the result page. I don't want to display ads on my linux site. I
>have access to the shell account at linuxave.net. Can I add this search
>capability to my website myself? What do I need to look for?
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com 3C509B Etherlink III with RedHat
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:33:08 GMT
Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am trying to use a 3Com 3C509B Etherlink III ISA network card with
: RedHAt Linux 6.2. When the card is switched to non-plug-and-pray mode
: it works fine in linux, but win98 can't seem to use it. When its in
: plug-and-play mode, Linux doesn't work with it but win98 works fine. I
: am using the BNC coax connector and have set to always use that
: connector. If anyone could tell me how to get redhat to use it in pnp
: mode or win98 to use it in non-pnp mode, i would appreciate it.
: Thanks,
: Kevin
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My home network consists entirely of 3c509b-tpo cards. To set one up
for a Linux/Windoze dual boot, firstly enable plug-n-pray, install it
in Windoze and make note of the parameters Windoze picks for the card.
Then turn off plug-n-pray and hard-wire the card to the parameters
Windoze picked. Then reboot windoze and manually set it to always use
those parameters. Then configure linux to use those same parameters.
Should work like a charm. All of mine do.
Fred
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---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
"And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He
will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
=============================== Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ==============================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx
Subject: you ll love this!!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:24:47 GMT
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] or fax us at 00 34 952 664 325 with details and well be
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What's the difference between NT4 And Linux?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:30:02 GMT
well hi there and hope that you guys could help me out...
i've got yhis question for my assignment and here it goes...
the comparison between windows and UNIX.
i am really stuck here so i guess if there's any website or any other to
know the comparison. please reply, thank you.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: What's the difference between NT4 And Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 02:45:13 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:
>well hi there and hope that you guys could help me out...
>i've got yhis question for my assignment and here it goes...
>the comparison between windows and UNIX.
One classic comparison site is here:
http://www.kirch.net/unix-nt/
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Everything in the universe is packaging, big toys or meat.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx
Subject: you ll love this!!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:51:08 GMT
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] or fax us at 00 34 952 664 325 with details and well be
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Maximum Linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:07:00 +0100
You can have my copy of the magazine May/June but I don't have hte
2 discs anymore
In article <8g3al8$j826$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Griffiths <michael.gri
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Does anybody know of a retail outlet in or near London that sells the US
>> magazine Maximum Linux?
>
>most big newsagents can get US magazines if you place a regular order with
>them
>
>
--
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 20 May 2000 01:27:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Victor Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >:> a thing.
> >
> >: First, the Qt library _is_ now free. Trolltech decided to license it
> >: using a "free" license. Second, there already was (a now dead?)
> >
> >Not "free", just "open source". And Raimond have specially tweaked open
> >source definition, so Mozilla and Qt would pass the test.
> >In strict Stallman's sense of "free" Qt is not free.
>
> Put another way: what would or wouldn't stop you from making
> a BeOS or MacOS version?
QT licenses DONATE all derived works back to Trolltech. That
includes all modifications of the code. You literally cannot
patch the code without giving them the patch.
Further, if you modify the code, you can only distribute your
modifications as patches. Not as another version of QT. The
license actively prevents forking in this way. Only Trolltech
is allowed to release versions of QT.
Further, if you even LINK to QT, you have to make your program
more FREE than QT. You have to make your program's source
redistributable and make modifications of your program's
source redistributable.
Further, if you create a program that links with QT and
is private, behind your own firewall, you have to make its
source available to Trolltech upon request.
Consider the loss of freedom relative to the LGPL. With LGPL
you can create any program that only dynamically links with
the library, be it open source, closed source, or behind the
firewall. There is NEVER a requirement that you give copyright
from every program that links to an LGPL library to FSF.
Any LGPL program can be forked and redistributed under
a new name, as long as it remains LGPL.
I don't think QT does qualify as open source. It clearly
fails allowing the creation of derived works licensed under
the same license. If you create a derived work, Trolltech
has copyright of that work. You may only distribute it as
a patch, whereas Trolltech make take your modification and
distribute as their copyright. They own your work. Their
license is horribly tilted towards Trolltech. Should they
ever try to use these rights granted under their license,
there will be a true uproar.
--
Dave Blake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Tony Reutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BAD MAGIC NUMBER IN SUPERBLOCK
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:34:49 -0500
Sorry about the screaming!..I have Mandrake 7.0 and am fairly new at this
stuff...I had been messing around with user setup in root and apparently
failed to activate the changes...OR...was running Netscape 6.0 Beta in
nonroot and it crashed...EITHER WAY..my /dev/hda7,,which is home..got
trashed on bootup..It shows bad magic number in superblock while trying to
open /dev/hda7..try running e2fsck with alternate block, such as -b 8193
/dev/hda7....I have tried that, and at least 10 successions of 8193, such as
16385,etc,etc, all to no avail...I reread the posts concerning this problem
and did check my partition table using fdisk :p and it shows my hda7 being a
valid linux native, starting at 3190, ending 3381. blocks 1542208+ with ID
83, system linux...I also tried mke2fs using -s option but got lost
quickly..Any guru suggestions appreciated...I HAVE TO LEARN TO LEAVE ROOT
ALONE!!
In the past when this has happened, my only recourse was to completely
reload the system from scratch..Surely I don't have to do that for a screwed
magic number..HELP
Tony
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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Help!!!..MAKING A NEWSGROUP LIST...!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 05:53:38 -0230
"Jay E. Morris" wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2000 21:46:30 -0700, softrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Steve wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 15 May 2000 06:06:02 -0230, Tux wrote:
> >> >Hey guys/gals,
> >> >
> >> >I'm using netscape communicator for an email/newsgroup browser and I was
> >> >wondering if there is some way that I can make a newsgroup list, much
> >> >like an email list, whereby I can type in the name of the list and the
> >> >message that I was composing wouldbe sent to multiple newsgroups (all
> >> >the newsgroups in my list)....!!!!! Does anyone know how to do
> >> >this...??? Thanks...
> >>
> >> Before you go doing stuff like that read some of the FAQs on how to use
> >> newsgroups and the netequette used in such forums.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >Gosh, Tux, wasn't Steve *really* helpful? Doncha just *love* people like
> >him?
> 1. Steve's answer was exactly right.
> 2. He was much, much nicer than I would have been concerning
> cross-posting..
>
> >--
> >the softrat
> >mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >---
> >Go ahead, Linux freaks, abuse me. I LOVE it!
> You're running Windows. I'd wouldn't feel right adding any abuse on
> top of that.
> --
> Jay E. Morris' Epsilon 3 Productions, www.epsilon3.com
> By 2000 we were supposed to have computers bright enough to argue
> with us, but that doesn't mean the way Word does it.
> -Jo Walton-
So what you are saying is that you guys have a problem with not being "NICE",
when somebody
asks a simple question of this nature... You do know that you cross-posted
when you replied to that message don't you...???
God, I don't know what the frigging problem is... I asked how posting to
multiple newsgroups would be done... I wasn't gonna SPAM, I just wanted to
post to my "LOCAL" provincial newsgroup as well as to alt.os.linux (or some
other NG).... And then you go talking about how Steve was much nicer then you
would've been... Well gosh darnit mamma, you must have extreme issues if this
topic would cause you stress.... In anycase, I'll write my own friggin'
program to post to the two NG's...
And BTW, if cross-posting is such a thorne in your side, why the heck did you
reply to this message....
Trevor...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Keiser)
Subject: serial mice & cheap motherboards ?
Date: 20 May 2000 08:35:50 GMT
a while ago, I bought a board w/out ps2 support (sigh), and
strangely enough have been unable to get any mouse to work
through my serial port. this applies to both x and the general
console - apparently my box isn't detecting the thing at all.
I've tried all the basic solutions, read countless howto's, and
gotten various friends to help me mess around with some
interesting serial hacks, but all to no avail. any ideas?
- mike keiser
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From: Miroslav Zubcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail question
Date: 20 May 2000 01:41:11 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) writes:
[...]
> As someone else already posted, sending an EOF to the command line
> (usually by typing CTRL-D) is easier and safer.
If `^D' is little strange to people, in new 8.10.X you have `/quit'
command.
--
Miroslav Zubcic
====================
tcsh% %blow
%blow: No such job.
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chmod problem
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 02:47:09 -0400
marge schott wrote:
>
> I installed linux and ran this crazy bastille program and it created a
> .rhosts file in my root directory with access perms -r-- --- ---. I
> now cannot modify this file. Does anyone know how I can get rid of it?
That's because you only have read access. Try:
chmod 600 .rhosts
and you should be able to edit/delete the file
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 20 May 2000 01:11:50 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve O'Hara-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> my answers:
>
>> In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc frans abels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : I have been experimenting with FreeBSD lately, comparing it to Linux.
>> : Here are some questions that I still have
>
>> : 1. FreeBSD runs Linux binaries. Does this mean that I can install a
>> : FreeBSD kernel
>> : in a Linux distribution?
>
>> No. You can use a Linux kernel on a linux system.
>
> Hmm, strictly speaking I suppose that is correct. If there isn't a linux
>kernel it isn't linux.
>
> That being said the question implied is interesting, namely just how
>little of FreeBSD would you need to support a complete userland from a
>linux distribution. Just the kernel, kernel+init, kernel+init+???.
Kernel, modules, modules loaders, some tweakery to get the Linux
emulator loaded. And lots of patience to actually go through the
process.
____
david parsons \bi/ Of course my Linux userland is mainly *BSD
\/ code, so that's cheating.
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From: "Totoro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to "format" under Linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:27:51 +0800
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
/dev/hdd6 /extra ext2 defaults,auto 0 1
What does <dump> and <pass> stand for?
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Maximum Linux
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 06:06:03 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can have my copy of the magazine May/June but I don't have hte
> 2 discs anymore
>
>
> In article <8g3al8$j826$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Griffiths <michael.gri
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> Does anybody know of a retail outlet in or near London that sells the
>>> US magazine Maximum Linux?
>>
>>most big newsagents can get US magazines if you place a regular order
>>with them
I still have the disks, want a copy of Mandrake 7.0 and Storm Linux?
I'll make them.
DanH
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generation
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