Linux-Misc Digest #620, Volume #21 Tue, 31 Aug 99 18:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Had it with RH6 (Michael McConnell)
Fax for Linux ("Kerry J. Cox")
Scheduling in Kernel 2.2 (Christoph Pleger)
Re: Using grep to match complete words (Larry Rosler)
Re: telnet connects, but 'closed by foreign host' b4 prompt ("Ben Gunter")
Re: Trouble with make dep (Peter Caffin)
help with .deb (gc)
Re: networking slows down (Tom Eastep)
Re: why not C++? (NF Stevens)
Re: why not C++? (Andomar)
Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Re: why not C++? (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: apps run as root, segfault as user? (Bob Hauck)
Re: why not C++? (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Building packages trashes my files system... (Peter Caffin)
Re: source for icewm??? (Peter Caffin)
Re: QuickCam VC + parallel port ? (Peter Caffin)
Re: News Proxy (Jerry Craker)
Re: Linux background / wallpaper? (exile)
need dumb serial terminal program (Grant Edwards)
Sun acquires StarOffice; gives it away for free ("Tim")
Re: Sun acquires StarOffice; gives it away for free (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: POP3 server. ("Aaron Lyon")
Re: source for icewm??? ("Duy D.")
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Had it with RH6
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:02:31 +0100
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Steve D. Perkins wrote:
> > SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
> > got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
> > one for a completely different model sound card.
>
> I've been complaining about the exact same problem on this group for
> about a week-and-a-half, and haven't heard any possible solutions yet.
> What exactly DID you end up doing to make your sound card work?
I got a friend's machine with SB16 PnP to work ni RH6 by using ALSA (supplied
on the Eridani RH6 CDs).
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell
Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://linux.amush.cx Fax: +44-8701-600807
Eridani: Your PC doesn't need Windows or Gates.
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fax for Linux
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:24:55 -0600
I used to run WinFax Lite way back when I used Windows, but now I am
looking for an equivalent fax program for Linux. I would just like
something that would allow me to fax off documents either in WP8 or Star
Office 5.1 format. Anyone know of anything similar, I'd be most
appreciative.
I'm running RH 6.0 with kernel 2.2.11. My modem is an external US
Robotics 33.6 sitting on the old COM2 port. I use it all the time to
dial-up to my ISP, no problem.
Thanks in advance.
KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Pleger)
Subject: Scheduling in Kernel 2.2
Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:45:30 GMT
Hello,
What has happened with the scheduling under Kernel 2.2?
I had compiled the following program under Kernel 2.0. The program - as intended
- switched the context between two processes:
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/wait.h>
#include <signal.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sched.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#define DPRINTF(str) { printf(str); fflush(stdout); }
#define LOOPS 10
struct sched_param schedparam;
pid_t Children[2] = {0,0};
int min,max;
void server(void)
{
schedparam.sched_priority = max - 5;
sched_setscheduler(0,SCHED_FIFO,&schedparam);
sched_yield();
while (1)
{
DPRINTF("server\n");
sched_yield();
}
}
void client(void)
{
int i;
schedparam.sched_priority = max - 5;
sched_setscheduler(0,SCHED_FIFO,&schedparam);
sched_yield();
for (i = 0;i < LOOPS;i++)
{
DPRINTF("client\n");
sched_yield();
}
kill(Children[0],SIGKILL);}
void main(void)
{
min = sched_get_priority_min(SCHED_FIFO);
max = sched_get_priority_max(SCHED_FIFO);
schedparam.sched_priority = max;
sched_setscheduler(0,SCHED_FIFO,&schedparam);
if ((Children[0] = fork()) != 0)
{
if ((Children[1] = fork()) == 0)
{
client();
_exit(0);
}
}
else
{
server();
_exit(0);
}
waitpid(Children[0],NULL,0);
waitpid(Children[1],NULL,0);
}
After switching to Kernel 2.2 the program was recompiled. When I let it run
now, the server-process stays in its endless-loop and the client-process is
never reached. What can be the reason for that? Was the scheduling changed in the
kernel?
Then I tested the following:
void main(void)
{
min = sched_get_priority_min(SCHED_FIFO);
max = sched_get_priority_max(SCHED_FIFO);
schedparam.sched_priority = max;
sched_setscheduler(0,SCHED_FIFO,&schedparam);
if ((Children[0] = fork()) != 0)
{
if ((Children[1] = fork()) == 0)
{
switch (sched_getscheduler(0))
{
case SCHED_OTHER: printf("client: SCHED_OTHER, "); break;
case SCHED_FIFO: printf("client: SCHED_FIFO, "); break;
case SCHED_RR: printf("client: SCHED_RR, "); break;
default: break;
}
sched_getparam(0,&schedparam);
printf("%d\n",schedparam.sched_priority);
// client();
// _exit(0);
}
}
else
{
switch (sched_getscheduler(0))
{
case SCHED_OTHER: printf("server: SCHED_OTHER, "); break;
case SCHED_FIFO: printf("server: SCHED_FIFO, "); break;
case SCHED_RR: printf("server: SCHED_RR, "); break;
default: break;
}
sched_getparam(0,&schedparam);
printf("%d\n",schedparam.sched_priority);
// server();
// _exit(0);
}
waitpid(Children[0],NULL,0);
waitpid(Children[1],NULL,0);
}
This program gave the following output:
client: SCHED_FIFO, 99
server: SCHED_FIFO, 99
How is it possible that - in spite of SCHED_FIFO and equal priority - the
client makes its output before the server, though the server was created
before the client?
In Kernel 2.0 the server was started before the client.
Christoph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Rosler)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.shell,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Using grep to match complete words
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:29:37 -0700
In article <7qgn0v$a15$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31 Aug 1999 13:57:51
GMT, Larry James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says...
> I have a grep script to check for the presents of a word in a list
> of words. My problem is that if the current word is "hello" and the
> list has a word "hello2" because "hello2" has "hello" included, this
> will show up as found.
Please drop comp.lang.perl.misc from the followups on this thread, which
keeps proliferating. Just because Perl has a built-in function called
'grep' is no reason whatever to post in the Perl newsgroup.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ben Gunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet connects, but 'closed by foreign host' b4 prompt
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:52:01 -0400
I missed the original post, but I'll try to help anyway...
Could the problem be tcpwrappers? If your /etc/inetd.conf file is tells
inetd to use tcpd to launch the telnet daemon, then tcpwrappers is working
on that port. If that's the case, either remove the part where it calls
tcpd (if you don't want tcpwrappers enabled) and give inetd a HUP, or edit
/etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny .
I'd bet /etc/hosts.allow is all comments and /etc/hosts.deny has the line
ALL:ALL in it. Here's my suggestion:
man tcpd (tells what tcpwrappers is all about)
man hosts.allow (covers format of access files)
Just a guess...
-Ben
matt shobe wrote in message <7qgvsh$rku$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>it's surely bad form to reply to yourself, but I have new information
>that' probably quite relevant to this:
>
>>
>> Aug 31 08:49:59 knrq in.telnetd[787]: connect from 127.0.0.1
>> Aug 31 08:49:59 knrq in.telnetd[787]: error: cannot
>> execute /usr/sbin/in.telnetd: No such file or directory
>>
>> ...which just leaves me wondering, how did in.telnetd get misplaced or
>> blown away? hack? careless whispers?
>
>I noticed that in/telnetd was simply missing from /usr/sbin, as the
>error message would suggest. However, I somehow have two telnet RPMs
>installed, one client and one client+server. They won't allow each
>other to uninstall because they are both named "telnet." anyhow,
>in.telnetd is now on my system and the logfile no long lists the error
>shown above, but the connection is still rejected, even from the
>console.
>
>1) how do you uninstall duplicate-named RPM packages?
>
>2) if the log won't even tell me why the connection was rejected, how
>can I start over from scratch with telnetd? I have no man for telnetd
>on my system, dangit.
>
>-matt
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with make dep
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:01:21 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a fresh install of the 2.2.5 kernel and am trying to compile the
> kernel (for ftape). Anyhow, when I run make dep I get the following
> error:
> make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/drivers/fc4'
> Makefile:10: ../../.config: No such file or directory
You've deleted your kernel configuration file. You'll have to run
`make menuconfig` again. Then:
make depend ; make clean ; make bzlilo
make modules; make modules_install
Hope that helps.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (gc)
Subject: help with .deb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:02:13 -0700
I have downloaded some software packages which are .deb archives.
I have looked around the debian.org website to figure out how
to open it, but the software which appears to do that is also in
a .deb archive. So is there a way to open these things without
having to install the entire debian os?
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From: Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: networking slows down
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:41:44 +0000
Janet wrote:
>
> Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Janet wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have been recently been experiencing a problem with my networking
> > > slowing down. If I ping my other machine, the ping time is normally less
> > > than 1 ms. However, occasionally (it has happened 2 or 3 times in the
> > > last week), it becomes a lot slower, sometimes taking up to 30 ms.
> > > However, if I just restart networking (using the network startup script in
> > > /etc/rc.d/init.d), it goes back to the sub-1 time. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Janet
> >
> > I saw a similar problem on a DC21143-based NIC when used with the Tulip
> > driver (in my case, the ping time was 1-2 seconds). Switching to the
> > De4x5 driver seemed to avoid the problem.
>
> I have been using the same Linksys card with the Tulip driver for a year;
> it has just recently started having problems. Also, this only happens
> when the box has been up for a few days. Do you think it could still be a
> driver issue?
Those are exactly the symptoms that I saw...
-Tom
--
Tom Eastep \ Opinions expressed here
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ are my own and not
Shoreline, Washington USA \ those of my employer
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:09:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Waugaman) wrote:
[snip]
>In other words, the statement "references must be non-NULL" fails the
>Machiavelli test.
>
>However, considering the difficulty of creating code that exercises the
>compiler this way, compared to the ease of creating code that dereferences
>a NULL pointer, I would say that C++ references pass the "Murphy" test
>with flying colors.
I disagree with this. The places where C can introduce a null pointer
are exactly the same places where a null reference would creep in in
C++. If you can make all you C++ references point to existing variables
then the equivalent C construction (which is to take the address of
an existing variable) has no possibility of introducing a null pointer.
However in situations where you are dealing with pointers whose
value must be changed (e.g. because they are part of some changing
data structure) then in a C++ program you must use the deference
pointer to reference construction used in my previous post. My
argument is that these situations using a reference rather than
a pointer gives you no absolutely no guarantee of pointing to
a valid object.
Norman
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:11:53 +0200
From: Andomar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
> In the face of the new possibilities for error, the static diagnosis of
>
> foo(NULL);
>
> is a worthless consolation prize.
Agreed. I never use references for that reason.
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From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:15:56 -0400
Robert Heller wrote:
>
> Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:59:18 +0800, wrote :
>
> JL> I have got myself an old 486 with a 243Mb Hard drive... a great tool for
> JL> trying out Linux networking...
> JL>
> JL> I created a boot disk out of the disk image provided by my Mandrake RH
> JL> 6.0 CDRom... When the 486 is booted with the boot disk, the partition
> JL> check always give a bunch of error messages:
> JL>
> JL> Partition Check:
> JL> hda/hda: status error: status=0x01 {error}
> JL> hda/hda: status error: status=0x04 {DiskStatuserror}
> JL> Drive not ready for command
> JL>
> JL> The hard drive is connected to the 486 thru a HDD controller. The
> JL> problem seems to be stemed from the controller board. Any idea how I
> JL> would solve the problem here?
>
Mandrake requires pentiums+. Try a distro that uses i386 kernels
as the standard installation. You can pick up cheap $2 CDs of most
distros from someplace like cheapbytes. I'd recommend Suse for a small
installation because the Suse installer tells you how big the packages
you're picking are. But Red Hat or Slackware or any major distro that
uses i386 kernels should work ok.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:30:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:52:26 -0400 (EDT), "Gabriel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:53:31 +0100, Spike! wrote:
>
>>Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Exactly,
>>> MS will not let go easily and it has practically endless
>>> resources.
>>> those who believe that Linux is safe just because they
>>> can't
>>> imagine what ms will do next are sitting penguins.
>>> My guess is that sooner or later ms will buy one of the
>>> distributions and start playing with it.
>>
>>At which point, the rest of the linux community will mark that distro as
>>dead...
>
>
>That is assuming that the community is last year's
>community. I'm afraid
>some of the people and companies who jumped on the wagon in
>the
>last year will see reasons to welcome MS, which will bring
>muscle and
>money, and a promise to make some pet projects "better."
>The result could be a fork.
The people who jump to Linux now are fed upo with Microsoft.
My feeling is that many feel that MS is jerking tem around and making
their lives tougher so that they can maintain their advantage ( for
example the widely varying definition of ActiveX to keep competitors
at bay ). They will not happily accept Microsoft.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:25:27 GMT
On 31 Aug 1999 09:26:08 -0700, Don Waugaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There's one way to do this: returning a local variable by reference from
>a function. On the other hand, it is possible to point a pointer to
>a variable that goes out of scope within a function while the pointer
>is still valid.
>
>The solution is simple: never return a local variable by reference from
>a function.
In other words, in this regard, references require the same care and discipline
as pointers.
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From: Bob Hauck <b o b h @ w a s a t c h . c o m>
Subject: Re: apps run as root, segfault as user?
Date: 31 Aug 1999 14:53:11 -0600
"Mark E. Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have 2 apps (my MySQL monitor and XChat) that run fine as root but
> segfautl when run as my normal user? Anyone know what causes this?
Have you checked permissions on /dev/zero? Should be rw to everyone.
Also, are those apps perhaps trying to open a TCP port < 1024?
Two things that just came to mind...
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Wasatch Communications Group
-| 801-272-3771
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:36:44 GMT
On 31 Aug 1999 10:34:29 -0700, Don Waugaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In regard to using pointers or references to refer to local variables,
>no. A reference must go out-of-scope before the variable it refers
>to. A pointer, on the other hand, can be reseated to point to a variable
>declared in an enclosing scope.
We've been over this one. A const-qualified pointer cannot be reseated, so this
is within the capability of pointers. However, the possibility exists that a
pointer may be uninitialized. This is a quality of implementation issue. If you
fail to initialize a const object, the language implementation should provide a
diagnostic, since there is obviously no other legal way that the object can
acquire a value. The only way in which such a construct is not in error
is if the object is never used.
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Building packages trashes my files system...
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:44:07 +0000
Richard Mace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My question is: what am I doing wrong?! How can a simple ./configure,
> compile and link break a filesystem,
Sounds like flaky hardware to me. Most likely your harddrive is on its
way out, however, it's probably worth reseating the cables and cards
related to your harddisk system.
Right now, however, your first priority MUST be to back up any data
you don't want lost. Whatever is causing your filesystem corruption,
you're running a big risk by not doing so.
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_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: source for icewm???
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:48:03 +0000
Duy D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can somebody please tell me where I can find source code for
> icewm-0.9.41 in tar.gz format?
You could always try the icewm homepage at
http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4fr0235/icewm/
> I know RedHat has it, but it's in rpm format.
In which case, easy: `alien --to-tgz icewm-blah.rpm`
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_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: QuickCam VC + parallel port ?
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:09:50 +0000
William Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone successfully setup Connectix QuickCam VC (parallel port) on
> Linux? If yes, then can you give me few pointers on how to setup the
> parallel port, and what program you used? Even though it works okey
> on Win95, I'm trying to run it (or any cam) on Linux.
>From the kernel source help (kernel 2.2.12):
CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM:
This is the video4linux driver for the colour version of the
Connectix Quickcam. If you have one of these cameras, say Y here,
otherwise say N. This driver does not work with the original
monochrome Quickcam, Quickcam VC or QuickClip. It is also available
as a module (c-qcam.o).
Essentially, the Quickcam VC is not supported. Logitech are
refusing to release the hardware specs, so I doubt it will be in the
near future.
Complain to Logitech and see if you can get a refund from the store you
bought it from. Sorry about the bad news.
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_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: Jerry Craker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: News Proxy
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:11 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
leafnode does not "cache" newsgroups per-se. However, it does server as
both server/client. You set it up to download from the up-line
newsserver, and connect to it through your news client.
Jimmy Lio wrote:
> Any proxy servers that cache news from newsgroups? What about Apache
> and Squid?
>
> Jimmy
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From: exile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux background / wallpaper?
Date: 31 Aug 1999 16:33:18 -0500
} In article <7q07t6$cpg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
} [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} > But I'm not really a Mac-person, I'd much rather have something
} Linuxy. Anyone know of any decent graphics I could use as a background or
} >wallpaper? Something like the Linux penguin or a 1024x768 screenshot
} of a windows manager?
I don't know how "linuxy" these are... you're free to use them though.
Http://www.freespeech.org/apophysis/pattern/patdex.html
As far as screen shots go... gimp does them fairly easily. You could always
switch to something like enlightement or blackbox, save a screenshot and
mount it in the root window then switch back to whatever you normally use.
{}Rick
Without taking a step outdoors You know the whole world; Without
taking a peep out the window You know the colour of the sky. The
more you experience, The less you know. {Tao De Jing}
http://www.freespeech.org/apophysis {v6.o} ICQ# 47439354
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: need dumb serial terminal program
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:54:55 GMT
I need a nice dumb serial terminal program. I need it to
* Transmit what I type
* Display what it receives
* Display the states of RTS, CTS, DSR, DTR, CD
* Allow me to change RTS and DTR. I
I don't need any sort of file transfer, modem handling,
terminal emulation, flow-control, or anything else.
I could use Kermit, but ckermit 1.9.2 won't build under Linux
(at least not under a remotely modern Linux). I assume it
builds under the old libc and not under glibc. I don't really
have the time/desire to go digging thorugh Kemrit source code
to figure out why.
Aren't there any nice, stupid, terminal programs around?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! FIRST, I'm covering
at you with OLIVE OIL and
visi.com PRUNE WHIP!!
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From: "Tim" <nada>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Sun acquires StarOffice; gives it away for free
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:40:15 -0700
Runs on Windows, Linux, OS/2, and Solaris SPARC/Intel.
www.sun.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Subject: Re: Sun acquires StarOffice; gives it away for free
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:18:00 GMT
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:40:15 -0700, Tim <nada> wrote:
>Runs on Windows, Linux, OS/2, and Solaris SPARC/Intel.
>
>www.sun.com
Clue: StarOffice was already given away for free before Sun's acquisition.
Free in the $$$ sense, that is to say. So nothing has changed.
What would make news is if the source code were made open. There have been some
buzzing rumors about that but nothing concrete.
You are way behind Slashdot with this, by the way.
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Reply-To: "Aaron Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Aaron Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:36:08 -0700
I typed rpm -i <rpm for imap>, the rpm is in the rpms directory on the red
hat cd, that installed the imapd and ipop2d and ipop3d binaries. After i
did that i uncommented the pop3d line in the inetd.conf and rebooted and it
worked fine. Enjoy. I did not uncomment ipop2d and imapd, and remote pop3
clients can connect fine and retrieve mail. That's all i wanted was remote
pop3 so i am letting you know. Hope i helped.
Luca Satolli (KaBooM) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is a pop3 server in Red Hat 5.2/6.0?
> Thanks a lot & best Regards
> Luca Satolli
>
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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: source for icewm???
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:53:32 -0400
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote:
> Duy D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Can somebody please tell me where I can find source code for icewm-0.9.41
> >in tar.gz format? I know RedHat has it, but it's in rpm format. Why the
> >hell does source code have to be in rpm format?
>
> A source package format offers some advantages, e.g. separating original
> source from fixes/improvements, standardising the build procedure etc. This
> can however be achieved without resorting to RPM.
>
> A quick search on freshmeat results in
> http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/03/09/889429231.html which gets you to
> http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4fr0235/icewm/devel/icewm-0.9.48.src.tar.gz
> (I haven't tested whether older versions are available from there too).
>
A quick search at Yahoo also give me icewm-0.9.48.src.tar.gz at the same site,
but I only want the older version. Thanks any way.
>
> >As a matter of fact, if somebody can tell me a good ftp site with source
> >codes in tar.gz, he/she is going to be my hero for today.
>
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/{stable,unstable}/*/source/*/*
>
> HTH,
> Ray
> --
> Obsig: developing a new sig
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