Linux-Misc Digest #620, Volume #27               Mon, 16 Apr 01 13:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Kernel 2.4.1 and StarOffice (Colin Pinkney)
  Changing initial window size ("Abha Ahuja")
  Re: non GUI starting in debian (Alex Yung)
  Re: Daylight saving bug in Redhat Linux? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Daylight saving bug in Redhat Linux? (Raymond Chui)
  Re: Reflection X (Juergen Sauer)
  Re: gcc 2.95... installation problem (Jason Lott)
  Re: READ THIS!!!Here is the technical explanation! (Dan Mercer)
  Re: process just refuses to die!!!! (Wayne Pollock)
  Re: help with playing StarCraft games behind a linux firewall (Dmitri Barski)
  Support of additional IDE channels on motherboards with RAID chipset (Emil Naepflein)
  Re: process just refuses to die!!!! (Lew Pitcher)
  mulinux (LiLo) (Mike Homuth)
  Re: Thrashing HD (David Goldstein)

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From: Colin Pinkney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.1 and StarOffice
Date: 16 Apr 2001 15:23:50 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9aq804$div$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Colin Pinkney"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> StarOffice refuses to save to either the win98 partition or
>> zip disks, yet has no problems saving to any ext2 partitions.

> Just a long shot, but what are your fstab entries for these partitions?
> Do you have 'user' in the options field?

Yes I do have the 'user' option in the relevant fstab entries. Like I
said, without changing anything, booting up with kernel 2.2.13 and
StarOffice works fine. Boot up with kernel 2.4.x and StarOffice can't
save to FAT partitions. But I need things from 2.4.x which I can't work
around. I can at least save to my Linux partitions and then simply copy
the files over to my win98 partition but it's very inconvenient. I
think I'm compiling my filesystem stuff the same, but the 2.2.13 kernel
I have is the precompiled one from SuSE 6.3. It has really stumped me.
I can't find any other program that has the same problem. Everything
else, all command line tools, Netscape, Gimp, etc. can all save to my
FAT partitions running either 2.2.13 or 2.4.x.

-- 
Colin Pinkney
======== 3rd Year Warwick University Computer Science Undergraduate =========
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Web Site: http://www.cpinkney.org.uk
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "I am ready to go anywhere, provided it be forward" *-*-*

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From: "Abha Ahuja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing initial window size
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:38:45 GMT

I want to change the initial window size to 4 segments. How can I do this
for a linux kernel. Do I have to modify the ketnel source or is it a
configurable option/setting. Any help in this area is appritiated. Thanks in
advance for any answers.

Atul Ahuja
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Subject: Re: non GUI starting in debian
Date: 16 Apr 2001 15:38:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian does not use runlevel 5 to start xdm.  It always start in non
GUI mode.  It just runs xdm as the last startup process if you have
configured X.  You can use
    rc.d_update remove xdm
It will remove all of the sym-link in various runlevel so that it will
not try to start in your next reboot.

If you are trying to change video card, you don't really have to
bother changing/stopping xdm.  Just shutdown your machine and change
your hardware.  If the new hardware requires you to switch to another
X server, xdm will fail to start anyway.  If you want to turn off xdm
temporary, you can use "/etc/init.d/xdm stop".  Now, you can do
whatever you want to adjust.  "/etc/init.d/xdm start" restarts xdm.

L.V.Gandhi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In RH, we can change inittab file to start at run level 3 or with label
: giving option of 3. But how to start in console in debian. This is needed
: say when we change graphics card so that we can configure new card after
: starting in console?

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Daylight saving bug in Redhat Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:40:58 -0400

> Thank you very much!
> 
> >  On my system,
> > /etc/localtime is a copy of /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT , not a link.
> >
> 
> Can you do me a favor type
> 
> ls -lai /etc/localtime
> ls -lai /usr/share/zoninfo/EST5EDT
> 
> See if the inode number (the 1st column) is the same or not.
> If they are the same, then /etc/localtime is a hardlink (not symbolic
> link).
> If they are different, then /etc/localtime is a copy of a file.
> Thank you again.
> 
I said that on my system, it was a copy, not a link, but since you do
not believe me, 

valinux:jdbeyer[~]$  ls -lai /etc/localtime
 358354 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1250 Jan 22 18:06 /etc/localtime
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ ls -lai /usr/share/zoninfo/EST5EDT
ls: /usr/share/zoninfo/EST5EDT: No such file or directory

And, just for free,

valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ ls -lai /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
 276952 -rw-r--r-- 4 root root 1250 Aug  1  2000
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ ls -l /etc/localtime 
        -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1250 Jan 22 18:06 /etc/localtime
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ diff /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ 

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 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 11:30am up 14 days, 18:18, 3 users, load average: 4.09, 3.62,
3.43

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From: Raymond Chui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Daylight saving bug in Redhat Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:22:46 -0400

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Jean-David Beyer wrote:


Thank you very much!

>  On my system,
> /etc/localtime is a copy of /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT , not a link.
>

Can you do me a favor type

ls -lai /etc/localtime
ls -lai /usr/share/zoninfo/EST5EDT

See if the inode number (the 1st column) is the same or not.
If they are the same, then /etc/localtime is a hardlink (not symbolic
link).
If they are different, then /etc/localtime is a copy of a file.
Thank you again.

--Raymond


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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reflection X
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:51:01 GMT

Aaron Brice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:42:14 GMT in comp.os.linux.misc:

> I'm using Reflection X v8.00 on Win98 to connect to a linux box running
> kdm.  When it connects, I get annoying vertical lines in the title bars
> of windows and certain buttons, and horizontal lines in scrollbars.  I
> would guess that this is a problem with Reflection X and not kdm, but
> has anyone else had this problem?  I also had this problem running
> Reflection X v6.2.  Is there a free Win98 XDMCP client someone could
> suggest to me so I can see if I have the same problem with a different
> program?

I saw that in such a Client at the Hannover University.
Playing around with the Display-Acceleration Settings in Reflection-X
solved that. Switching almost off worked...

mfG
        Jojo

-- 
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From: Jason Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc 2.95... installation problem
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:17:57 -0500

On 16 Apr 2001 07:30:27 GMT, 172.173.85.96 [Anshul Kothari] wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to install gcc-2.95 in my redhat 6.1 system. When i try to do rpm -Uhv 
>gcc-2.96.rpm, it gives me an error saying that it needs cpp-2.96. 
>
>When I try to install cpp-2.96, I get the following errors:
>
># rpm -Uhv cpp-2.96~1.rpm
>
>error: failed dependencies:
>       cpp = 1.1.2 is needed by egcs-1.1.2-24
>       cpp = 1.1.2 is needed by egcs-objc-1.1.2-24
>       cpp = 1.1.2 is needed by egcs-c++-1.1.2-24
>

>When I query the rpm database for the cpp and egcs installed. It gives me following 
>output:
>
>#rpm -q -a | grep cpp
>cpp-1.1.2-24
>
>#rpm -q -a | grep egcs
>egcs-1.1.2-24
>egcs-g77-1.1.2-24
>egcs-objc-1.1.2-24
>egcs-c++-1.1.2-24
>
>It clearly shows that cpp-1.1.2 is already installed so why is cpp-2.96 not able to 
>find it?
rpm is seeing the cpp-1.1.2 just fine, it's the egcs-1.1.2-24 dependencies that
are saying "hey! you can't remove/replace cpp-1.1.2, because I need it!!". The
best course of action would be to remove egcs-1.1.2-24, cpp-1.1.2-24, egcs-g77,
and egcs-objc-c++ since they are being replaced by gcc-2.96, cpp-2.96, gcc-g77,
and gcc-objc respectively. The avoid the dependency errors between gcc-2.96 and
cpp-2.96, copy the gcc* and cpp* rpms into one directory, and 
run: rpm -Uvh *.rpm

 

>
>TIA,
>anshul
>
>ps: Would appreciate if you can send me a response at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>==================================
>Poster's IP address: 172.173.85.96
>Posted via http://nodevice.com
>Linux Programmer's Site


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: READ THIS!!!Here is the technical explanation!
Date: 16 Apr 2001 16:20:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jason wrote:
>>
>> If this is the wrong newsgroup, sorry.
>> Hi, I have an important question, I'm not trying to cause trouble, but
>> why is it that Internet Explorer  for Microsoft runs so much faster than
>> any browser on Linux?
> 
> It's not. It's faster than Netscape or Mozilla for some things,
> but is slow as a sloth compared to Konqueror and many of the other
> borwsers out there.
> 
> In part, IE has going for it that portions of the browser reside in the
> kernel instead of user space, and it uses DirectDraw for some rendering
> (and Netscape etc don't use DRI). Also, IE uses the native widget set
> whereas Netscape uses the poorly design Motif widget set. In comparison,

Motif is hardly "poorly designed".  Netscape's implementation on Motif
was very poor.  Netscape's ignorance is not Motif's fault.

-- 
Dan Mercer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>> Thanks
>> Jason Toy
> 
> --
> James D. McIninch
> Cereon Genomics, LLC
> (617) 551-8022
> 



Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.


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From: Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: process just refuses to die!!!!
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:30:05 -0400

If you used kill -9 <pid> on the correct <pid> and did that as root,
and the process didn't die, then it must be a zombie.  (That means
its dead but will still show up in the "ps" output.)  It will not
run nor take any resources, so don't worry about it.  It will go
away completely at your next reboot.

However servers are often watched over by other processes, and if
one dies another is created to replace it.  Have you checked to make
sure when you kill the process a new one isn't replacing it?  You may
need to kill the parent.

-Wayne Pollock

me wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> i'm got a crashed process on my system that refuses to terminate. i've
> killed the window and tried to kill the process with a whole bunch of
> signals, even kill -9 didnt work.
> 
> what can i do short of rebooting the system???
> 
> thanks
> ali
> 
> (btw. the process is opera, the web brower)

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From: Dmitri Barski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with playing StarCraft games behind a linux firewall
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:14:35 +0200

Hung Ngoc Lai wrote:

> behind the linux box.  I would like to be able to play the StarCraft
> game on my Microsoft Windows machine.  What do I need to
> modify the rc.firewall script rule set for this to work?  I understand
> that in kernel 2.2.x you have to run the loose UDP but I am running
You needn't, in fact. However it is really kind of great deal to implement 
the way I describe here...
> kernel 2.4.2 now.  Please help....

I skipped the irrelevant things.. So here we go. SC uses UDP, so its 
packets are treated by:
> $IPT -A INPUT -p udp -j firewall
Which is in fact not a problem... However, take a look onto your previously 
set up "firewall" chain:
> #Set up the firewall chain
> $IPT -N firewall
> $IPT -A firewall -j LOG --log-level info --log-prefix "Firewall:"
> $IPT -A firewall -j DROP
It just logs and drops EVERYTHING. You cannot have both: absolute security 
and StarCraft... You can however try following ( it works for me, so it 
should ( normally ) do it for you as well ):
Reject ( or DROP ) everything not coming over a connection set up from 
inside ( use the "-m state" extension ). Then accept UDP. With TCP you 
could use the SYN flag ( ipchains -y, do not know what's it with 
iptables... ), however it can be fooled and UDP is connectionless anyway, 
so you have to use the connection tracking shipped with netfilter.

Here is an example:
--> cut <--
# Connection tracking: only allow connections from inside!
iptables -A INPUT -i $extint -m state --state NEW,INVALID \
        -j LOG --log-ip-options \
        --log-prefix "CONNECTION " --log-level warn \
        --match limit --limit 10/minute
# Log connections from outside...
iptables -A INPUT -i $extint -m state --state NEW,INVALID -j DROP
# And DROP them!

iptables -A INPUT -p udp -j udp_in
# Handle UDP.
--> cut <--

You got the idea. Rearrange the example to match your needs!

-- 
CU Dmitri Barski
--
email: dmitri at barski dot org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Emil Naepflein)
Subject: Support of additional IDE channels on motherboards with RAID chipset
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:46:11 +0200

Hi,

I would like to use the additional IDE channels available with
motherboards having RAID functionality for normal IDE disks. Especially
I would like to build a RAID-5 with the MD driver using 7 IDE disks
connected to the four available IDE channels. 

Do you think that this is possible with the current IDE driver, i.e with
a MSI K7T Turbo Raid board having the Promise Raid chipset. Don't get me
wrong. I don't want to use the hardware RAID functionality, just the
four IDE channels.

Thanks,
Emil

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: process just refuses to die!!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:39:57 GMT

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:30:05 -0400, Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>If you used kill -9 <pid> on the correct <pid> and did that as root,
>and the process didn't die, then it must be a zombie. 
Not necessarily.

If it's swapped out on a hardware I/O, it won't die until the I/O
completes. If the hardware died (i.e. disk crash, tape not in drive,
etc.) then the I/O won't complete and the process will hang. A kill
here won't do any good until the I/O completes, which means repairing
the hardware problem.

You can tell if a process is in this state by checking the output of
'ps'. If the process shows a STATE CODE of 'D', it's in an
"UNINTERRUPTABLE SLEEP" state. See 'man ps' for information.

>(That means
>its dead but will still show up in the "ps" output.)  It will not
>run nor take any resources, so don't worry about it.  It will go
>away completely at your next reboot.
>
>However servers are often watched over by other processes, and if
>one dies another is created to replace it.  Have you checked to make
>sure when you kill the process a new one isn't replacing it?  You may
>need to kill the parent.
>
>-Wayne Pollock
>
>me wrote:
>> 
>> hi
>> 
>> i'm got a crashed process on my system that refuses to terminate. i've
>> killed the window and tried to kill the process with a whole bunch of
>> signals, even kill -9 didnt work.
>> 
>> what can i do short of rebooting the system???
>> 
>> thanks
>> ali
>> 
>> (btw. the process is opera, the web brower)


Lew Pitcher, Information Technology Consultant, Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:44:08 +0200
From: Mike Homuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mulinux (LiLo)

I would like create a mulinux bootdisk, but the LiLo is failt.

I've mulinux in version 11r12. If I start mulinux with the option 1 (one
1722 disk), I get not error messages. It counts 82 tracks, if I formate
the disk, but the disk don't boot. If I mount the disk, it is empty.

If I choice the second options (two 1440 disks), I get the message:
    /root/mulinux/bin/lilo: file not found
, but the /bin/lilo is there.

I've tried to start the lilo without mulinux: /sbin/lilo -C
/floppy/lilo.1440 (I've copied the lilo.1440 to the disk), but I get the
message:

Fatal: open /fd0H1440: device is in use

Thanks a lot.

Mike Homuth


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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thrashing HD
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:46:46 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am currently using Mandrake 7.2. After 15 min of use, the hard drive
> begins to thrash about for no obvious reason. I maybe online or using a
> word processor program, it doesn't seem to matter . Often the thrashing
> will start when the screen saver kicks on(if this is approx. 15 min after
> I boot up).The thrashing is enough to slow everything down to a crawl and
> the only way to make it usable again is to hit the power botton. This is a
> new problem that I didn't have with the 7.1 version. The only thing I can
> think of that is different is I had to reinstall Mandrake 7.2 when I added
> an hdparm script to rc.local file (I used the exact same script with 7.1
> on the same computer with no problems, but 7.2 would no boot). Now I type
> the command in at the terminal and there are no problems. The hard drive
> thrashes even when I dont use hdparm. Any ideas would be very helpful.

  I was having this problem with SuSE 7.x.  What I found was a program that 
ran regularly called mandb was causing the problem.  Under SuSE, I can turn 
this program off through YAST.  I no longer have the problem that you are 
referring to :)

David

> 
> Pat


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