Linux-Misc Digest #620, Volume #24 Sat, 27 May 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: FTP & TELNET ("AfterFX")
Re: No sound for Sound Blaster Live ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 2 Questions (One for Oracle People) ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: printing to various deskjets from Linux ? (Smitty)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: fork in shell-scripts (Alex Chudnovsky)
Re: FTP Server with wu-ftpd ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: What web server? (Jordan Dimitrov)
OK, so how do they do it? (Karel Jansens)
Re: connect LINUX to Free ISPs???
gnome question (Alexander Antonakakis)
Re: Problems with VIA686 sound-chipset (ALSA) and Red Hat 6.2 (Marc Geerlings)
Re: What web server? (Raymond N Shwake)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! (Lauren Child)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! (Lauren Child)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! ("Jason Bentley")
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From: "AfterFX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FTP & TELNET
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:43:37 -0500
Can you explain this in a little more detail - where do I find out about the
auth service?
The one thing that gets me down more than anything else about Linux is the
seemingly endless configuration that must be performed just to get a simple
service running...
: (
Steve
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8gm52g$1c6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> | 1) I setup a FTP server using wu-ftp, when I use CuteFTP in Win98, I
> | must wait for a long time to login, any idea can speed up it?
>
> Two possibilities are DNS failure (or delay) or incorrectly configured
> response to the auth service. If you don't provide auth you should deny
> it, not just ignore it, or servers using that service will be slow.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No sound for Sound Blaster Live
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 21:39:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 19 May 2000 03:30:04 GMT, Jeremy wrote:
> > >I have recently installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 for the first time. I
am a
> > >newbie to the OS. It detects my card (sound blaster live), but when
i
> test
> > >i get nothing. Also need help mounting cd rom. Mounted it, can't
use
> it!
> > >Help me please!
> >
> > You may try running sndconfig to get your sound card setup correctly
> that's
> > if sndconfig comes with your distro.
> >
> > To mount a CDROM I su to root and do:
> >
> > [sjlen@zero-pps /etc]$ su
> > Password:
> > [root@zero-pps /etc]# mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> > mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting
read-only
> > [root@zero-pps /etc]# cd /mnt/cdrom
> > [root@zero-pps cdrom]# ls
> > COPYING README README.1ST RPM-PGP-KEY RedHat TRANS.TBL doc
> dosutils
> > images oreilly
> > [root@zero-pps cdrom]#
> >
> > I then type exit so that I'm back as a normal user again, and go to
the
> > directory /mnt/cdrom where I'll find the root directory of the
cdrom.
> > It doesn't matter what directory you're in when you mount the cdrom
but
> > when unmounting make sure that you're working directory isn't one of
> > the directories on the cdrom (in any of your windows or sessions),
> > otherwise you get a device busy message.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
> >
> > web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
> >
> > or http://start.at/zero-pps
> >
> > 1:17pm up 1 day, 21:22, 4 users, load average: 1.06, 1.16, 1.08
>
> Thanks for the reply. I will try it and let you know the outcome.
>
> Thank again,
> J
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
>
I am also having trouble getting Linux to accept my Sound Blaster Live.
I have tried using sndconfig and Lothar to configure it but with both
when testing the sound I get the error message:
"/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/misc/emul0kl.o:init_module:Device or resource
busy". Lothar shows all info (IRQ, etc...) to be -1 and wont allow me to
change the values. If any one has run in to this problem or has any
suggestions your response is appreciated.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Questions (One for Oracle People)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:57:38 -0500
On Sat, 27 May 2000, GailWeber wrote:
+ Scenario: I am contemplating buying an iMac, partitioning the drive in half,
+ wiping the second half, and laying linux (for mac) on that half.
OK...
+ Question #1: Since Oracle will run on linux, can I install on my linux
+ partition, or are they (Oracle) talking linux chip set (does that even
+ exist)?
I am not sure about this one.. I do not know what you mean by
'linux chip set', however Oracle installation question would be
better answered either in an Oracle NG, or perhaps on the Oracle
web site.
+ Question #2: I've been using Solaris 2.6/7 (not on a mac), how badly am I
+ going to hose myself, trying to use Solaris UNIX constructs in a linux
+ environment?
Not too badly, much is the same, after all UNIX is UNIX... However
there are many things that are different as well. I would say that you
will be better off than someone coming from a Windows background,
however you will have much to learn.
+ If anybody can answer one or both, please email me at:
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nope, post here, read here. That's how Usenet works.
+ <(NOTE: spammers will find their IP addresses mysteriously remapped if they
+ abuse this email address. Have a nice day)>
And how exactly, do you plan to do that? Do you work for ARIN or
something.
Regards,
anm
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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing to various deskjets from Linux ?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:51:14 -0400
Robert Herzog wrote:
> Hello,
> A colleague of mine intends to reconfigure his NT based network into all
> Linux boxes. The machines must run a decent Office suite, like
> Staroffice, Applixware, etc.
> But each of these PC's presently have their own deskjet printer, ansd as
> you might guess, there is a very heterogeneous stable of these.
> While my choice would be to print on one or a few decent central laser
> printers in PostScript, this is not an option here...
> Can someone recommend which is/are the best option(s) here, in order to
> fully exploit the color/BW capabilities of these printers, including
> which Linux Office package is the richest in this respect ?
> What about the present status of KWord and friends ?
> Herzog
KOffice is still under developement. I would not try to use a beta or
initial release for a commercial application. I use StarOffice and am
satisfied with it. The price is right and you can import ms documents.
The other threads directed you to info on printers.
Good luck,
Smitty
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 27 May 2000 16:59:32 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Cvs is free, fairly painless, works cross-platform and gives you
>>a nice consolidated area to back up even if your working/testing
>>space is distributed. I'd recommend it for your 20000 lines of code
>>even if the kernel never goes that route.
>
>Thanks, but I'm afraid cvs doesn't run on OS2200. :-)
It is fairly vanilla C code. If it is even close to a
unix-like environment there is a good chance it would
compile. If not, you could stick the repository somewhere
else and commit with anything that can see both the
workspace and the repository.
>I'd use the same tools we use for the application I support if I had
>need for a real change control facility.
Does that provide cross-platform client/server access?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fork in shell-scripts
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:37:34 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 5/26/00, 4:05:22 PM, "Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding fork in=
=20
shell-scripts:
> Hello,
> I've got following question.
> Is there a possibility to do sth. like a fork in a shell-script?
> I have a process that does a certain job. I would like to fork+exec an=
d
> observe the father-process.
> But as I found out there doesn't seem to be a fork in bash and ksh. Do=
es
> anybody know a workaround, except writing a C-program that does it?
Some simple kind of workaround : the script executes itself in backgroun=
d=20
or in subshell with some parameter or environment variable different for=
=20
father and for child. Script should check this variable at the very=20
beginning and so to know whether it must "fork" itself or "exec" some=20
other programs ( shell supports exec command)
> Any help is appreciated,
> Marc
Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky,
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 35559910
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP Server with wu-ftpd
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:08:49 -0500
On Sat, 27 May 2000, Sylvain Bouchard wrote:
+ How to run a ftp server with wu-ftpd ?
+
+ I have an entry for it in /etc/inetd.conf and in /etc/services. But
+ when I type "ftp" on the prompt it says "Connection refused". It does
+ not even ask me for a login and password.
How do you expect people to help if you if you are not
willing to articulate your question such that the
reader may have a reasonable chance at seeing what you are
trying to do?
Did you add ftp in /etc/inetd.conf recently? If so did
you HUP inetd?
kill -1 `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`
Can you telnet to that port? Can you use nmap or another port scanner
to see if the port is even open?
Do you have an /etc/ftphosts file that prevents you from connecting?
Is your login shell in /etc/shells?
As you can see, there are many things that could go wrong,
I have only scratched the surface.. Ultimately you will
have to RTFM, or pose a more specific question.
Regards,
anm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 27 May 2000 17:01:14 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Personally, I use source control for practically everything I do. If for
>>no other reason, because when I'm finished a set of changes, I can
>>compare them to the previous version and make sure I didn't leave in any
>>debugging code, etc.
>
>It's easy to do that using a file comparison utility. :-)
If you keep complete copies of every file in every version
every made... Cvs sits on top of rcs and is able to construct
every version while storing only the differences.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.inetserver.iis,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: What web server?
From: Jordan Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 May 2000 23:16:21 +0100
Patrick,
I don't really understand your point. Of course M$ bought hotmail some
donkey years ago. The point is that they repeatedly tried to convert
it into NT and failed!
The original posting asked for comparison between different www
servers and there the answer is!
Cheers,
--
============
Jordan
http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~jordan/
"Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> as you may not notice that hotmail was belonging to hotmail company, i think
> you people are too young, microsoft just bought the hotmail from them.
>
>
>
> Jordan Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > You should probably take a look at http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/ and
> > especially http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/hotmail.html. Actually
> > Kirch's paper says it all. http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Subject: OK, so how do they do it?
Date: 27 May 2000 23:28:40 GMT
Just to share my amazement.
I wanted to hook up my parallel port ZIP-drive to my linux box (I even
installed a second parallel port for it), so - obviously! - I read the
mini-howto, compiled scsi support into the kernel and installed
modules for ppa and lp. I rebooted and I have now a ZIP-drive.
So how did my kernel know which port my ZIP-drive was on???!!! It
never asked me for it. I did insmod lp, and my printer works just the
way it used to do.
Freakin' amazin', if you ask me...
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: connect LINUX to Free ISPs???
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:44:14 GMT
On Fri, 12 May 2000 00:37:24 GMT, NetVAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know how to configure LINUX to connect to
>Free ISPs like Netzero, Freei.net, etc???
>i need the IP configuration settings and which LINUX is best?
>Redhat? SUSE? TurboLinux? BSD? etc??
>thanks in advance
I've used Worldspy ( http://www.worldspy.com/ ) as a free ISP under
Linux; you just need a Windows box to set up the account, and then you
can yank the username/password out of Dial-Up Networking. It uses
plain-old PAP authentication, so it's relatively straightforward.
Daniel J. Peng
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alexander Antonakakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome question
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 01:53:47 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is a little silly but how can I change the font type and color on my
gnome desktop icons. I use gnome with enlightenment 0.16.3 for my X.
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From: Marc Geerlings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with VIA686 sound-chipset (ALSA) and Red Hat 6.2
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:46:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but mine looks like
> this and works ok (FWIW - Redhat 6.1 and Epox EP-7KXA motherboard):
>
Thank you for you reaction.
I tried it but know it seems that my problem boils down to one,
It seems that snd-pcm.o has one unresolved symbol,
when I install the driver section of ALSA the install warn me about
this:
/lib/modules/2.2.14-6.1.1/snd-pcm.o: unresolved symbol
this symbol is __cmpdi2
Did someone had te same problem?
regards
regards,
M.Geerlings
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Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.inetserver.iis,comp.unix.solaris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raymond N Shwake)
Subject: Re: What web server?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:21:36 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent) writes:
>On Sun, 28 May 2000 02:50:40 +0800, James wrote:
> >
> >Your few words wake me up and solve my question. This is really amazing and
> >surprising, Hotmail is using Apache and FreeBSD. I always suppose they should
> >use MS technology and MS IIS.
> >
>This may be because you think hotmail is one of MS's "innovations".
>In fact, like all of MS's "innovations" (except maybe "Bob"), it
>was bought (or stolen). They tried to port the system to MS products
>and it was a disaster. They haven't tried again.
I'm no fan of Microsoft - indeed, I support the three-way split
proposal submitted in court this week. But "stolen" is a bit strong.
MS paid good money for HotMail ($400 Million if I'm not mistaken) so they're
free to do with it as they wish, and succeed or fail as a result.
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From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 23:12:42 +0100
Bernie wrote:
>
> Does this "real-world" lab environment also have simulated "dumb
> end-users", simulated unreasonable bosses, and simulated crackers to
> break into the servers or use make use of the email server as a relay
> point for spam? I'm just about curious how "real world" it is.
>
Ah - you just need a simple basic program
10 print "I didnt touch anything, I just came in this morning and it was
like it"
20 goto 10
Then network wise you just need to dangle a stripped cable down onto an
aluminium foil mat near an open window, and when the wind blows, hey
presto.
Simulating unreasonable demands is easy, put the above in a completely
different room you dont know exists, set the exam for 30 minutes after
walking in on the first day.
As far as crackers go there is no need - just play musical chairs -
every half an hour you move to the computer next to you and have to fix
all the mistakes the dodo next to you left you with - crackers cant do
half the damage a half witted computer wannabe with a book to copy from
can.
Oh dear Ive been doing this far too long......
TTFN
Lauren
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From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 23:17:46 +0100
"Harold S. Frydman" wrote:
>
> Don't let people fool you. THIS is NOT brain surgery.
yes but in 30 days your either going to come out very confused and
remembering little bits of everything, or youd know enough going in that
you could work it out from a book and not have to go on a course.
If the thirty days are spread out over 4 or 5 months then fine, but
there is a limit on peoples memory, and attention span, and cramming
that much in you arent going to remember half of it if you do it all in
a row.
TTFN
Lauren
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From: "Jason Bentley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 18:05:07 -0000
It will take you years to gain certification?
WOW! You are smart.
Jason
Sebastiaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Whats all the fuss about?
> I think these camps are excellent, only the material u need, why would
> somebody wanna study years and years when its possible in one month.
> If you aint talented enough than just dont do it and mind your own
business.
> This is excellent for people that really wanna learn something, its heavy
> alrite but atleast it gets you somewhere.
> I dont understand what all the noise be about.
> Yall linux gurus afriad you wasted al ur time experimenting with
"real-world
> experience".
> I guess some people just dont understand the real meaning of studying or
> even whats studying is about.
> when i read all the replies: old farts with oldfashioned opinions who just
> need something to discuss about.
> i'd say go critisize about something that really deserves critic.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bas
> (somebody who did a couple o boot camps with success and is happy he did
> them)
>
> Harold S. Frydman heeft geschreven in bericht
> <3QzX4.450$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Don't let people fool you. THIS is NOT brain surgery. There are lots of
> >people out there that will tell you all that counts is Real-World
> >experience...and they wouldn't be wrong...but they wouldn't be 100% right
> >either.
> >
> >Doctors spend years learning the basics before they are allowed to
practice
> >medicine. Lawyers must have years of education before they're allowed to
> >practice law. Why should the IT profession be any different?
> >
> >Nobody is saying that certification is the end...in fact, think about it
as
> >premed or prelaw...the more you know the better you'll do in a real word
> >environment later. The CMA course is a great BEGINNING....what you do
with
> >it afterward is everyone's personal choice. As an experienced admin for
> many
> >years I'd have to say I'd rather someone with no experience AND
> >certification, rather than no experience and no education.
> >
> >
> >
> >Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> Since they are providing people to do the "students" cooking, laundry,
> >> and their cleaning, I wonder if they also provide professional test
> >> takers to take their tests for them as well.
> >>
> >> Does this "real-world" lab environment also have simulated "dumb
> >> end-users", simulated unreasonable bosses, and simulated crackers to
> >> break into the servers or use make use of the email server as a relay
> >> point for spam? I'm just about curious how "real world" it is.
> >>
> >> One other question: Who gets to fix the laptops when the "students"
> >> inadvertently break them when fiddling around with fdisk? Is a *real*
> >> desktop support person on hand to wipe their butts in that way too?
> >>
> >> > "Harold S. Frydman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:wTuX4.129$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > http://certcoach.homestead.com
> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> > Thank you and good luck.
> >>
> >>
> >> --Bernie
> >
> >
>
>
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