Linux-Misc Digest #648, Volume #21 Thu, 2 Sep 99 22:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: set up c++ development environment (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Please help to chose the OS of Linex (Yan Seiner)
Re: Real;Player bombs with Comm4.51 (Michel Catudal)
Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12 (Bob Martin)
Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12 (Bob Martin)
Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12 (Bob Martin)
Re: Text Editor (Cameron Simpson)
Problem with Disk Geometry (james hayes)
Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$ (Daniel Weber)
Gnome Panel in KDE??? (Jason Bond)
Re: How to use SoftOSS for playing midi files? (Michel Catudal)
_tabs_ command, or the lack thereof (Erich Schwarz)
PIM Manager (Christopher Molnar)
Re: Sound help needed ("J. Escalante")
Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects (Barry Margolin)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Subject: Re: set up c++ development environment
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:40:47 GMT
Graffiti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >i am learning c++. i want to do c++ program under linux. what packages
: >(rpm) do i need? what environment variable i need to set? and how i
: >compile the source code?
: >
: >------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
: > http://www.searchlinux.com
: Hmm... *goes to website*
: Okay, this is annoying. A Usenet gateway of some sort. People post
: questions to a web page expecting support. And it shuffles it off to
: the newsgroups, and grabs the replies?
: Are there any Usenet-wide policies that prohibit this?
Maybe we could arrange to have everything cross-posted to comp.lang.c, and
let them get flamed to death.
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Phil Darnowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove spam, eggs, bacon, spam, and dot to reply.
"I'd use 'Hitler-Ware' if it would get the job done."
--Terry Fry
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:31:09 GMT
Christopher,
Thanks for bringing up that topic. :-)
> I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
> instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
> Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux)
is
> free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people can
> hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
> and stuff, since it's a free OS.
That's a ridiculous argument. Public domain doesn't make something easier
to crack. As an example, the DES encryption standard is public domain. You
can even find code that implements it. But it is very secure (albeit, it
has been superceded now).
How secure is Windows NT? Well, here's an example. We have NT 4.0 running
here. My administrator (a rooky right out of school) forgot his Admin
password. He didn't know what to do at first, but after searching the WWW
for 5 minutes he obtained information that allowed him to crack it easily.
I've been trying to figure out why NT is rated C2 secure...duh.
> I questioned the fact that the majority of servers on the internet use
some
> flavor or *nix. He answered saying that only small size companies use
*nix.
> Everyone else uses something more secure (he meant MS I'm assuming).
Only small size companies? I think he's making this up. Did you ask him if
he owns MS stock? Or, he's only been reading MS propaganda.
> I wanted to know what everyone here thinks about this. I'm a firm
believer
> thatn *nix is a very stable, secure system.
Good for you! It's certainly more secure than any flavor of Windows.
Mark
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help to chose the OS of Linex
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:21:55 -0400
I use RedHat 5 & 6, and I am quite happy with it. If you are
inexperienced in linux/unix, you probably should consider the commercial
version. The manuals are very good.
Yan
Sam wrote:
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> I am a starter of Linex. Could any one of you could teach me which version
> of Linex should I try to start?
>
> RH6? or susie? I heard that RH is better. And the menu book of Susie is
> better, but it is not user friendly. Moreover, how about chinese Linex?
> Because I want to use it in office and some documents are in Chinese?
>
> Please help :-)
>
> Sam
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Real;Player bombs with Comm4.51
Date: 2 Sep 1999 19:52:02 -0500
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Ron Gibson wrote:
>
> I can't get RealPlayer working with Comm 4.51. I've tried both the elf
> and the aout versions. It starts to play and I hear a few sounds and
> then it dies with an error 1, which tells me nothing at real web site.
>
> Everything works fine under Windoze. Anybody got a clue as to what
> mighht be wrong?
>
> Also, the installation instructions are confusing. It appears to first
> set it up as a plugin then tells you to set it up as a helper app. So I
> wondering what set of instructions go with the two options.
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I assume that you are using kernel 2.2.xx or 2.3.xx
It will not work unless you patch it up with the included
patch. Better yet, install G2 for Linux which works with the
newer kernels.
You run the script in the directory were the binary is. Make
a backup of the binary first just in case. G2 doesn't need a patch
but is only at the alpha level. It works ok for me but some people
have had problems.
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:52:49 +0000
Stephen Thomas wrote:
>
> I just installed the 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 patch. When I compile it I get the
> following errors:
>
> make[3]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[3]: *** No rule to make target 'pc_keyb.h', needed by 'pc_keyb.o'.
> Stop.
> make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[1]: *** [_subdir_char] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers'
> make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
Your kernel is 2.2.2 and you installed patch 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 ? what
about patches 2.2.3 - 2.2.10 ? did you install those as well ? all
patches have to be installed in sequence to bring you up to the current
level.
I would also start with a stock kernel as I have no idea if suse tweaked
anything in the version the ship.
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:53:23 +0000
Stephen Thomas wrote:
>
> I just installed the 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 patch. When I compile it I get the
> following errors:
>
> make[3]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[3]: *** No rule to make target 'pc_keyb.h', needed by 'pc_keyb.o'.
> Stop.
> make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[1]: *** [_subdir_char] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers'
> make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
Your kernel is 2.2.2 and you installed patch 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 ? what
about patches 2.2.3 - 2.2.10 ? did you install those as well ? all
patches have to be installed in sequence to bring you up to the current
level.
I would also start with a stock kernel as I have no idea if suse tweaked
anything in the version the ship.
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Errors when compiling 2.2.12
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:53:41 +0000
Stephen Thomas wrote:
>
> I just installed the 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 patch. When I compile it I get the
> following errors:
>
> make[3]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[3]: *** No rule to make target 'pc_keyb.h', needed by 'pc_keyb.o'.
> Stop.
> make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers/char'
> make[1]: *** [_subdir_char] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.2.SuSe/drivers'
> make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
Your kernel is 2.2.2 and you installed patch 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 ? what
about patches 2.2.3 - 2.2.10 ? did you install those as well ? all
patches have to be installed in sequence to bring you up to the current
level.
I would also start with a stock kernel as I have no idea if suse tweaked
anything in the version the ship.
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From: Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Text Editor
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:28:05 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| I telnet into my Linux server from a windows box. I need to work with text
| files (C++ Source) but I hate the VI editor. Is there any editors that are,
| well, more user friendly that will work?
Hmm - being a VI-phile myself I'll not suggest something else, but for the
new VI user there are two vital habits to learn:
- _always_ press escape when you pause in your typing; you will never
forget which mode you're in once you've learnt this reflex
- try not to use the arrow keys
Cheers,
--
Cameron Simpson, DoD#743 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
BTW, don't bother flaming me. I can't read.
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Dennison)
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From: james hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Disk Geometry
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:41:30 -0400
Hi,
I am currently running Slackware 3.6 (Linux kernel 2.0.35) on a Dell
Expressions PC, and I am having trouble getting the kernel to recognize
the correct disk geometry of my IDE drive.
I am running in a mixed drive environment (IDE drive is /dev/hda and
SCSI drive is /dev/sda). I am booting from /dev/hda (which is an
ST36531A). The Dell BIOS correctly recognizes the drive as having the
following (LBA mode is OFF):
Heads : 15
Sectors : 63
Cylinders :13446
Howver, when booting from a LILO floppy, the disk is seen as
Heads : 247
Sectors : 0
Cylinders : 19689.
When I boot from a disk image, I can pass the correct geometry to the
kernel and it sees the disk as it should. However, after loading LILO
on /dev/hda (with append "hda=13446,15,63" in lilo.conf) and rebooting,
I get an
"Operating System not found".
When I reboot with the LILO boot disk, I wind up where I started.
I would appreciate any insight into this problem as I am just about at
the end of my rope.
Thanks
Jim Hayes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Daniel Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:32:24 GMT
kev wrote:
> Thanks very much Heiki, but that's a fix I keep seeing. I've tried it and it
> hasn't made any difference at all.
> I've come across one or two other people on this group a few weeks ago for whom it
> didn't work either.
>
> - Kev
There's a fix on the netscape page about making sure a couple of environment
variables are defined.
# prevent netscape crash
MOZILLA_HOME="/usr/bin"
export MOZILLA_HOME
CLASSPATH=" /usr/local/netscape/java/classes/java40.jar"
export CLASSPATH
This has helped a great deal for me... I can actually get to many pages that crashed
before and use java a little before it locks up.
As far as X logging you out, you aren't part of a network are you and someone is
playing a little joke on you and killing your X server?
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome Panel in KDE???
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:48:32 -0700
Does anyone out there know of a way to start
the gnome panel within other window managers
such as KDE or enlightenment?? I have the
necessary rpm's installed. I know the panel is in:
(root@blah: /home/jbond) rpm -q -a | grep gnome
gnome-linuxconf-0.14-4rh
xmms-gnome-0.9.1-1
gnome-libs-devel-0.20-3
gnome-audio-1.0.0-5
gnome-libs-1.0.8-2rh
gnome-core-1.0.4-13rh
the gnome-core-1.0.4 package. Or does one have
to use the knome window manager to use it? Thanks
kindly.
Jason
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to use SoftOSS for playing midi files?
Date: 2 Sep 1999 19:36:02 -0500
Selim Jochim wrote:
>
> Hi,
> can anyone tell me how to use SoftOSS to play midi files?
> How do I specify the path to the instrument files or where do I have to
> save them, how well does it actually work?
>
> Thanks, Selim
>
> --
Use Timidity++
Check on my web site for the link.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erich Schwarz)
Subject: _tabs_ command, or the lack thereof
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:20:42 -0500
System V has a command, _tabs_, which allows the number of spaces
in a tab to be adjusted at will. Apparently Linux doesn't. Why not?
--Erich Schwarz
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From: Christopher Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PIM Manager
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:54:03 -0400
Does anyone know where I could find a PIM for X? Specifically I need something
to use to take and organize notes taken in meetings. I am almost at the point I
have replaced all the functionality on my Redhat laptop that I lost when I
trashed windows, but this is still missing.
Thanks!
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From: "J. Escalante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.linux.slakware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Sound help needed
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:49:51 -0400
Cooper wrote:
> JERE WAMBLE wrote:
> >
> > I have a pnp ess 1869 card and I have had no seccess in getting it to
> > work. However, I do seem to have made one small step on the road. I
> > don't know exactly how I did it, but I recompiled and when I boot up i
> > see something to the effect
> > ESS003 ess1869 card at Blah-blah location is ok.
> > also, some other line that says the card is ok.
> >
> > However, I don't have any luck past there. When I check /dev/audio, I
> > see the file there, but when I try to cat a file to it , I get the
> > message
> > "/dev/audio-no such device"
> > I suppose this might be the problem, but not sure if it is the one, or
> > the only one. I don't know what to do from here. I am not familiar wit
> > the MAKDEV, or whatever, or even if I need to use it since the file is
> > there, but not initialized.
> > If someone could help, I would really appreciate it. It would sure help
> > get further away from Windows. I have Slackware 4.0, with KDE. I have
> > had sound working on another computer with Slackware 3.6, but no luck
> > here. I do NOT really understand isapnp, but my tinkering around with it
> > might be okay since I see the messages above on bootup.
>
> The line about card blah blah ok looks like it indeed came from isapnp
> meaning that your PnP card got initialised.
> The thing about PnP devices is that support for them *MUST* be compiled
> as a module. If you don't do it the kernel gets started first, along
> with the support for the card which will fail because the card wasn't
> initialised yet (which is what isapnp does). Isapnp can't start until
> the kernel starts the rc.* files.
> What you need to do is add lines to your /etc/conf.modules that
> specifies the settings of your sound device.
> Look in the Documentation subdir of the Linux sources for hints on that.
> I don't have your card so I can't help you much further with this, but
> this should at least point you in the right direction.
>
> Oh, one more thing. The 'files' in /dev (they're devices!) aren't there
> for what's in your system, but for what Linux would allow in your
> system. And with that I mean Linux in general. Your kernel compilation
> will typically exclude certain devices. That the device node is there
> doesn't mean that there's actually a device behind it or that support
> for it has been compiled into the kernel.
>
> Test if your soundcard had been found by the system with 'cat
> /dev/sndstat'.
>
> Cooper
> ---
> Quake 3 made me do it!
I have a similar problem, only that I have a Audio Excel that emulates SB16.
At the time I compiled the kernel, I specified that the card I had was one
that emulates SoundBlaster 16/32/etc. My question is, how can determine
whether the sound card module has been installed and if it is the wrong
module trouble shoot it?
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 02:01:03 GMT
In article <pquz3.2331$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Matthew Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 1) Not all potential users might have a C++ compiler.
>> 2) There will always be more C programmers that C++ programmers, since
>
>> anyone who can program C++ can also program C. Thus, making a in C++
>
>that's not true (unfortunately).
Are the unfortunate folks who are the exceptions to this rule really worth
worrying about?
--
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