Linux-Misc Digest #648, Volume #24 Tue, 30 May 00 05:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (James Lockwood)
Re: DHCP kills kppp - please help ("L. Friedman")
Re: AutoMount 2nd CDROM in Redhat 6.2? ("pascal")
Re: Can't change video res in kde (Franses)
removing the automatic startx and bootable disk!! (Arun Mahajan)
Re: democracy? (Mark Wilden)
Re: removing the automatic startx and bootable disk!! ("David ..")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Mark Wilden)
Linker does not find libs in some cases ("Timo Volkmer")
Re: Telnet from Windows ("Stefan Kneip")
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! ("Qwagga")
Re: gnome 1.2 menu bar (muzh)
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From: James Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 06:12:40 GMT
In comp.sys.sun.hardware GENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: As one who spent a lot of lab time with SparcStation 10, 20, and various
: Ultra machines, let me caution you about old hardware. You may find it
: hard to fix, and Sun CE's don't come cheap. In the Sparc 10 era, for
: example, the frame buffers were as slow as DOGs. They had some boards
: for the S-bus called cgsix0 and cgsix1 (and also called by some other
: marketing names). The result of having an unaccelerated frame buffer
: (with only 8 bit planes by the way), is that X eats up your CPU. Sure,
The cg6 family is definately accelerated. You are probably thinking of the
cg3, which is quite slow by comparison.
Agreed with the rest though. First define your goals, then decide on
s/w and h/w. Most people who are buying older Sun h/w are not doing it
for raw CPU or graphics performance.
-James
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From: "L. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DHCP kills kppp - please help
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 02:32:26 -0400
knud wrote:
>
> > In article <8gupth$383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "knud"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have my linux box plugged into the local LAN. The problem is, when I
> >> set the ethernet card to connect via DHCP (as it should), linux no
> >> longer recognizes kppp modem connections. That is to say, kppp connects
> >> to my ISP but my apps wont use the connection even though the Internet
> >> at large isn't visiable from the LAN.
> >>
> >> What I'm forced to do is kill the ethernet connection each time I want
> >> to dail out. What can I do to have both connection working at the same
> >> time?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> knud
> >>
> > In article <hnEY4.14851$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "asdf"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You problem is when ppp is started, your defauld route is still set to
> > use your local network. Since you're using kppp, you can edit your
> > account, click the gateway tab, and check
> > "Assign the Default Route to this Gateway".
> > Unfortunately sometimes this doesn't work. You may have to edit the
> > up/down scripts in
> > /etc/ppp or manually set the default route using the route command.
> >
>
> I'm using ksaferppp by Caldera so I can't edit kppp in the manner you
> mentioned. Could you explain in more detail how to edit the /etc/ppp
> up/down scripts?
They're text files. You edit them like you would any text file, in a
text editor.
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L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The alt.os.linux.caldera FAQ:
http://netllama.ipfox.com/COL_FAQ.html
Step-by-step help for COL problems:
http://netllama.ipfox.com/stepbystep.htm
2:30am up 2:20, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.23
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From: "pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: AutoMount 2nd CDROM in Redhat 6.2?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:09:35 +0100
Edit /etc/fstab and add the same line you have related to your /dev/cdrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <8gvj1s$j9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi, there,
>
>I have one SCSI CD-ROM drive (/dev/cdrom) and one SCSI CD-RW
>(/dev/cdrom1) drive in my system. I had installed Redhat 6.2
>on it. Both drives are seen by Linux. I am running GNOME
>winder manager.
>
>As 'root', both drives are set as auto-mount. When I place
>an audio CD in either one, it is played automatically.
>
>But as a normal user, I can only set /dev/cdrom as auto-mount.
>The CD-RW drive can't be set as auto-mount. I tried to use 'Rescan
>Device' with right mouse button. But it doesn't work. It won't
>auto-mount neither audio nor data CD and no icon on
>the desktop.
>
>Is there any way to fix it?
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>Roger Shum
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Franses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't change video res in kde
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:23:47 +0200
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 May 2000 14:40:42 +0200, Mario Franses Aparicio
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >HI!!
> >I'm wondering how one may change the video resolution in the kde
> >workstation.
> >The res on this shared computer is way to high. It's really starting to
> >bug me....
>
> KDE has nothing to do with the screen resolution. When you're running X,
> the command to change screen resolution is Ctrl-Alt-(Keypad +) or
> Ctrl-Alt-(Keypad -). Have fun with the "virtual screen" feature of X...
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
> There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
> But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
Thanks!!!
Now I can use Linux and actually read what's on the screen...
============
--Franses---
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From: Arun Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: removing the automatic startx and bootable disk!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:30:05 GMT
Hello Everybody,
i've recently added linux at my computer and wants to to do following two
things:-
1. i'd choosed for automatic start of startx when i configured the same.
and now would like to remove it i.e. it should come to login mode(like in
dos) not on startx.
2. how can i make a bootable disk in case i skipped at the time of
installation.
thanks in advance for the help.
regards,
Arun
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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:45:30 +0100
"Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:
>
> Clever. :-) I guess every year really starts a new millennium,
> although this does not directly pertain to the millennium we were
> discussing.
Actually, each second starts a new millenium. :)
> Well, to me the real idiot is one who does not take the time to think
> about the truth of the matter, and then refuses to admit when he is
> blatently incorrect.
However, my point was that this issue is simply not important enough for
most people to worry about strict accuracy. And why should they? The
rollover to 2000 is much more interesting to them.
> [ First of all, let me point out that you more than likely do not have
> to recompile your kernel to make your sound card work. ]
I did, although I compiled sound card support as a module.
> Not so, chosen ignorance is not an excuse
We just disagree. There are more important issues in people's lives than
computer OSs. We, as computer people, tend to forget that.
> to say that people think that
> Windows is better becuase they do not want to try anything else just
> points out their stupidity.
No, it just points out that they've got other things to think about.
>If this were the case in all aspects of
> life, we would not even have electricity for goodness sake.
It is the case in all aspects of life. It took technologically astute
people to make electricity acceptable to non-technologically astute
people.
> And to say
> that the majority of people believe that Windows is best is not idiotic,
> it is true, look at the usage percentage!!!
That percentage arises from the number of computers that come preloaded
with Windows, not from the number of people who think Windows is 'the
best OS ever', as you averred.
> of the computers on the planet... Are you saying that that many people
> would use it even if there were something better?
If it were _proven_ to be better, yes. There are other issues involved
than the technical quality of the OS, such as the availability of
software and help.
> Either way you slice it, the majority looks rather dumb.
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way, because it must make living in this
world very unpleasant for you, thinking that most people are 'idiots'. I
also question how, without an absolute standard of intelligence (which
doesn't exist), the majority of people can be anything other than
average.
> + Of course, there are people who are smarter than average, and I think
> + Usenetters in general fall into that category. But just because I
> + (err--we) are smarter than average doesn't mean the average is low. It
> + just means that we're quite smart. :)
>
> Why the (err-we), are you directly insulting my intelligence?
Not to mention the fact that there are lots of other qualities a person
can have besides intelligence (which the term 'idiot' ignores). One of
them is to be tolerant and with a strong enough ego that one doesn't
read insults where they weren't intended. To be crystal clear, the
'err-we' was an acknowledgement of your and other Usenetter's
intelligence, not an insult to it.
> I made no attempt to insult yours, but if this is your course
> of argument, let me know now, so we can either agree to disagree,
> or killfile each other ( I would rather not do that ).
I have never killfiled anyone in 16 years online. If I don't respect
someone's opinions, or feel they don't respect mine, I simply ignore
their posts, as I ignore the majority of posts for reasons ranging for
disinterest to laziness. The average person, as stupid as she may be,
does not generally put her fingers in her ears and scream "I can't hear
you, I can't hear you!!", which is what the public announcement of
killfiling amounts to.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing the automatic startx and bootable disk!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 02:41:01 -0500
Arun Mahajan wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
>
> i've recently added linux at my computer and wants to to do following two
> things:-
>
> 1. i'd choosed for automatic start of startx when i configured the same.
> and now would like to remove it i.e. it should come to login mode(like in
> dos) not on startx.
Change the line in /etc/inittab
from: id:5:initdefault:
To: id:3:initdefault:
>
> 2. how can i make a bootable disk in case i skipped at the time of
> installation.
To make an Emergency Boot Disk floppy.
Login as root, and insert a new floppy.
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.2.xx
where xx is kernel version.
To make an Rescue disk:
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
Copy vmlinuz to the floppy disk:
cd /boot
cp vmlinuz /dev/fd0
Find the kernel's root device:
rdev
# will show /dev/hdaXX where XX is partition number
Set kernel's root device:
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdaXX
# where XX is the partition number
Mark the root device as read-only:
rdev -R /dev/fd0 1
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ID # 123538
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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:54:22 +0100
lop@l wrote:
>
> Imagine a civil engineer building a bridge, then finding out near the
> end that one end is shorter than the other, then blowing it, and starting
> again.
A couple of points: first, when they first started building bridges
(especially the first iron bridges), they made a lot of mistakes, and
they didn't get blown up, they just collapsed when the first train ran
across them, killing people. Hence, today's bridge designers have a lot
of negative experience to go against.
Second, a computer program is far more complex than a bridge. It's much
harder to design. I've read estimates that the average computer program
has more parts than a 747.
Third, a computer program _can_ be blown up and started over. That's one
of the beauties of software, and one big reason why we love it so: our
tools and our products are so much more plastic.
Fourth, the needs of a bridge are pretty simple. How many use cases does
a bridge support (so to speak)?
Fifth, a bridge's requirements are unlikely to change with the speed of
a computer program's. That's why it's easier to say OK, here's what we
want out of this bridge, and have a hope in hell of leaving that spec
frozen until delivery. Not so with computer programs.
Finally, computer programming is about 60 years old. When civil
engineering was 60 years old, the right angle hadn't yet been invented.
We're a young industry, and we can't expect maturity right off the bat.
The idea of One Right Way to do things is something for the future.
All that said, I do believe in analysis and design and agree that Linux
could use more of it (if it's true that there's no specification for its
components at all).
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From: "Timo Volkmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linker does not find libs in some cases
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:16:29 +0200
Hi everybody,
I am not an advanced user and I am having problems linking some of my C++
programs.
I use SuSE-Linux 6.2 and g++ (egcs 2.91.66). The linker does often not find
libraries which are
accessed via a softlink. For example:
Linker command:
g++ -Wl,shared -L/usr/oracle/V8.0.5/lib -lclntsh ...
The error-message says "clntsh: no such file or directory ..."
When I look into the directory I can find the following:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Feb 7 20:00 libclntsh.so ->
libclntsh.so.1.0*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba 4381924 Feb 7 19:48 libclntsh.so.1.0*
When I change the linker command to the following:
-Wl,-static -L/usr/oracle/V8.0.5/lib /usr/oracle/V8.0.5/lib/libclntsh.so
then it works.
What can the problem be? I have this kind of problem experienced with many
different libs and also while I was trying to include some header-files. I
am a kind of deserted here ...
I'll appreciate any help ... Thanks!
Timo.
eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reply-To: "Stefan Kneip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Stefan Kneip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet from Windows
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:10:14 GMT
I use NetTerm by InterSoft International, Inc.
Browse to: http://starbase.neosoft.com/~zkrr01/
It has VT320 colors, 132 x 40 screenresolution and works quite well.
Defenitely worth a try! It doesn't offer ssh though!
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From: "Qwagga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:17:37 +0200
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: gnome 1.2 menu bar
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:25:24 +1200
Kevin Vandersloot wrote:
>
> In article <8gshni$h5a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi, I just installed gnome 1.2 from Helix and it
> > looks really good. My question is that in the
> > screenshots there appeared to be a universal
> > menu bar (a la macintosh menu bar) but I don't
> > have one and I can't find an option to enable
> > it. does anyone knowhow to turn this feature
> > on?
> >
> > (btw, this is for a linuxppc 2000 system)
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before
> > you buy.
>
> right click on any existing panel and choose
> 'create panel / menu panel.'
Or delete your ~/.gnome directory. This will cause gnome to start up
next time in its default configuration, which seems to include the
Amiga/Macintosh type menu bar (no, it is not just another panel :))
--
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