Linux-Misc Digest #648, Volume #27               Thu, 19 Apr 01 10:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: gnome & gnucash ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Xconfigurator help. (Sander Zijlstra)
  Re: launch remote X session from Linux ? (Vincent Zweije)
  Re: ZIP100 not having correct major or minor number ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: ZIP100 not having correct major or minor number ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Which distro for 2.4.x ? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (John Ridley)
  Re: Am I fucked? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Karel Jansens)
  Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Dreamspinner3")
  Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Dreamspinner3")
  Re: mounting iso-fs hangs (Dances With Crows)
  Re: About Virtual Hosting, plz HELP (Sebastian Wild)
  cannot upload with Squid ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
  Re: Stupid login tricks (/etc/issue question) ("Jeffrey J. Bacon")
  Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Donn Miller)
  Re: ZIP100 not having correct major or minor number (Bart Friederichs)
  Re: Sailboat Racing & Navigation (Lee Allen)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome & gnucash
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:38:11 +0200

Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <rant> I've just wasted about 4 hours over 2 days trying to get all
> the dependencies worked out so that I could compile & install gnucash.

Eh? Worked fine here last time I tried it.

> download one library after another, do the './configure make install'

You don't, surely. That's all taken care of for you by debian.

> thing.  But, after going to all that trouble, and have the gnome-lib
> compile break because one of those other libs uses a header I don't
> have (xpm.h) & which I can't find -- it's the last straw.  I can blame

xpm.h is  part of the very old X development kit, isn't it? I don't
think it's current!

  oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb/src/shellutils-2.0.11% locate xpm.h
  /usr/X11R6/include/X11/xpm.h

> some of it on debian -- the world's worst installer makes it
> impossible for me to even think about using the system installer for
> binaries. And as is usually the case with debian, about half what you

Eh? Are you confused? Debian magics everything binary into place,
resolving all dependencies automatically. Just out of curiousity, I
tried it, and it installs fine:

  nbd:/tmp% sudo apt-get install -d gnucash
  Reading Package Lists... Done
  Building Dependency Tree... Done
  The following extra packages will be installed:
  eperl guile1.3 libgtkxmhtml1 libguile6 libguile6-slib
  libhtml-parser-perl libmime-base64-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl scm 
  The following NEW packages will be installed:
  eperl gnucash guile1.3 libgtkxmhtml1 libguile6 libguile6-slib
  libhtml-parser-perl libmime-base64-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl scm 
  0 packages upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded.
  Need to get 3514kB of archives. After unpacking 8340kB will be used.
  Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

> actually need to make it work is installed by default, and the rest

There is no such thing as "default".  You get what you ask for, plus the
dependencies required to make it work.

> trained enough to actually use dselect.  I'm about done with debian,

dselect? Never used it ... isn't that that headache inducing thing that
they used to use? I always do "apt-get install foo" to download and
install foo and all prerequirements. 

> too.  I think slack is going back on this machine.  PDQ.

Not bad.

> But, my real beef is with gnome & gnucash, two of the most
> USER-UNFRIENDLY installations on the linux planet.  These applications

Possibly. I wouldn't touch gnome, but meany people like it.

> a lot of respects.  I can do a lot & I'm really willing to put up with
> a lot (like kernel 2.4 breaking SB soundcard support that had been

Mine is working fine.

> The bottom line is, I'm going to wind up using MS Money for my
> financials because all I have to do is stick in a CD & in ten minutes,

It took me about 20s to install gnucash. But I have no intention of
using it. I don't have any dollars!

> I'm working on my dollars & not on the damned software.

Peter

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From: Sander Zijlstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Xconfigurator help.
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:10:48 +0200

fdsjfdsa

"Kenny@BUI" wrote:

> i was able to find the line.
> thank you.
>
> "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:1cFB6.166$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > i cannot find that line in my XF86Config line.
> >
> > > edit the XF86Config file in ect/ uncomment the NO_ACELL option> in you
> > video driver bit  SAVE IT and restart Linux and presto it should work
> > > great!!!!!
> > > Littlefish
> > > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > hello,
> > > > > we just upgraded to from 6.2 to 7.0.
> > > > > the thing would not display properly. we are trying to use
> > Xconfigurator
> > > to
> > > > > fix the problem. it appears that the monitor is being detected but
> > when
> > > we
> > > > > type startx the
> > > > > screen does not refresh properly. the icons are there but you have
> to
> > > put
> > > > > the mouse over them for them to appear. there are also lines all
> over
> > > the
> > > > > screen. looks like the tile effect in win98.
> > > >
> > > > 7.0 uses XFree86 4.0.2, while 6.2 uses XFree86-3.x -- you may want to
> > > > downgrade your X11 server to the older one so that it works again.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX
> > videoboard
> > > > Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
> > >
> > >
> >
> >


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From: Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: launch remote X session from Linux ?
Date: 19 Apr 2001 12:22:05 +0200

 * Removed comp.os.linux.misc.  If it's something else, it's not .misc.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dean Thompson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

||  > I have a Red Hat 7.0 laptop. Does anyone know how to open a remote x
||  > session to other machines?
||  >
||  > For example, I want to telnet into another SUN Solaris or DEC UNIX or
||  > another Linux computer and do emacs (and I want to see the emacs window
||  > on my laptop).
||
||  On your laptop providing X is running on it, you could do something like
||  the following:
||
||  [user@laptop] xhost +remotemachine.com
||  [user@laptop] ssh / telnet remotehmachine.com
||  [user@remotemachine] setenv DISPLAY = laptop.com
||  [user@remotemachine] xemacs &

This is plain silly.  If you have ssh installed anyway, use its forwarding
capabilities.  In fact, if you use ssh, the xhost command is superfluous,
as xemacs will not be using a plain X connection back to your X server,
but the ssh-forwarded one instead.

While I'm at it: xhost is *dangerous*.  It allows access to your X display
to *everyone* who is logged in on the remote host.  It will let them spy
on your display, monitor your mouse and keystrokes, and feed synthetic
keystrokes to your windows.

Just don't use xhost.

Ciao.                                                             Vincent.
-- 
Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>    | "If you're flamed in a group you
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/>      | don't read, does anybody get burnt?"
[Xhost should be taken out and shot] |            -- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP100 not having correct major or minor number
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:29:54 +0200

Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> 
>> Cdrecord is not interesting. You simply need to know what is on your scsi
>> bus. For that, you need to look at the scsi bus. It's all in
>> /proc/scsi/ (and your bootup messages).
> /proc/scsi/scsi says:
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00  Lun: 00
>   Vendor PHILIPS  Model: PCRW804      Rev: 1.1
>   Type: CD-ROM                                ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 06  Lun: 00
>  Vendor: IOMEGA   Model: ZIP 100       Rev: D.06
>   Type: Direct-Access                 ANSI SCSI revision: 02

OK, that's conclusive, isn't it? You have two controllers (one of them is
imaginary), scsi0 and scsi1. On the first (scsi0) there is a cdrom at
ID 0.  So that will be /dev/sga or equivalent (I don't know what the
scsi cdrom devices are called on your distro .. posibly scd0?). The
zip is on the second conroller (scsi1) with ID 6. It will be /dev/sdb.
Use fdisk on it to see where the partitions are. It's partition will
probably (but not certainly) be /dev/sdb4.

BTW, you can always use defvs in the kernel and then go via
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/ !  I don't know if your kernel has that
support for physical device naming or not.

>> You can also look directly at your bootup messages (dmesg) and get the
>> info  you need that way.
> dmesg says:
> ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 16 bit
> ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 16 bit
> scsi1 : Iomega VPIO (ppa) interface)
> scsi: 2 hosts.
>  Vendor: IOMEGA   Model: ZIP 100       Rev: D.06
>   Type: Direct-Access                 ANSI SCSI revision: 02

You need the partition info from a bit farther down. This is just a
repeat of the info in /proc7scsi.

> S, it looks to me that the device is detected. The only problem is that
> I cannot find the right /dev to mount it on/with/to (I do not know the
> correct english syntax for that). I found /dev's that show up to be the
> ZIP: /dev/sgb and /dev/sg1. They are as follows:
> crw------- 1 root     root    21, 1 Apr 17 19:04 sg1
> crw------- 1 root     root    21, 1 Jul 18 19:04 sgb

This are both precisely incorrect choices. Look at devices.txt  in the
kernel sources for precise naming and moajor/minor coneventions if you
need to know more. But you want (probably) /dev/sdb4  (scsi disk b,
partition 4).

> those devices. I should be able to mount /dev/sgb4 as that should be the

No, it should be/do nothing. Where do you get this name or idea from!

We still need a bit more info .. from the bootup messages again, but
this time from a little further on, where it shows the partition info
of the detected disks.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP100 not having correct major or minor number
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:11:09 +0200

Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip

> it says that the kernel doesn't recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device,

Well of course it "doesn't". That's because it ISN'T. sdb4 will be
where your zip drive is, if that's what you're talking about! sda
doesn't exist on your machine.

> and that maybe 'insmod driver' works. In my opinion the ppa module is
> the correct driver. It worked all fine before I compiled my kernel to
> support ide-scsi et al to be able to burn CDs (which is more important

Of cousre. As EVERYONE has been telling you, your cdrom scsi emulation
now occupies the virtual place that your zip drive was in before. Your
zip drive has shifted down one. If you don't likethat, then use the
physical reference names (devfs) istead of the logical ones!

You'd get the same effect from putting a reasl scsi cdrom on your real
scsi bus, if you have one! (your zip has ID 6, which always places it
last on the bus).

> now than ZIP support, but still).

> Perhaps a kernel recompile is needed to fix this. 

Perhaps NOT.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which distro for 2.4.x ?
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:33:08 +0200

Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So,...  RedHat has included GCC 2.96 with RedHat 7.1, instead of GCC 2.95.  
> Now, the binaries are incompatible.
> Can you recommend a disto that has kernel 2.4.x, and produces compatible 
> binaries,...

debian or slackware (or suse). Debian has 2.4.* in the current (i.e.
testing) archives as default. Slackware likewise. Suse offers it at 
install too.

Peter

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From: John Ridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:18:30 -0400

Hitler.  Nazis.  There, this thread is officially over.  Please shut
up.

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:19:08 -0700, "Kevin"
<Raknaman(NoSpam)@charter.net> wrote:

>> > No, you are not f*****, but you are a jackass for posting a subject line
>> > like that.  And the people who are defending you are bigger jackasses.
>>
>> Why? It's a perfectly common (ab)use of the word in contemporary
>> English. Why is he a jackass for writing English?
>
>
>Figures an even bigger jackass would think using a subject line like that is
>okay!
>

=====
John Ridley
http://ridley.dyndns.org

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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I fucked? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:01:48 +0000

John Carter wrote:
> 
> Since this is an informational group, how many people would consider
> it a safe place for a 10 year old to look for information about a new
> digital camera?
> 
I don't care about other people's 10 year olds. They are not my
responsibility.

> Would you want your child using the word in everyday conversation?
> 
Many people use the word "fuck" in everyday conversation. It rarely
refers to the biological act of reproduction.

Many people also use the word "mate" in everyday conversation. It too
rarely refers to copulation.

I don't get your point; are you in fact saying that your children have
to get their education from what they read on the Internet? That you are
such an incompetent parent that you are unable to teach your children
the difference between decent and indecent language? And that you are
even proud of the fact that you are unable to educate your children
yourself?

If that is the case, do yourself (and the rest of the human species) a
favour: get a vasectomy before your accidentally reproduce any further.


> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:52:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >In comp.os.linux.misc Kevin <Raknaman(NoSpam)@charter.net> wrote:
> >>> > No, you are not f*****, but you are a jackass for posting a subject line
> >>> > like that.  And the people who are defending you are bigger jackasses.
> >>>
> >>> Why? It's a perfectly common (ab)use of the word in contemporary
> >>> English. Why is he a jackass for writing English?
> >
> >
> >> Figures an even bigger jackass would think using a subject line like that is
> >> okay!
> >
> >Figures that an even bigger jackass would think that there something wrong
> >with using the work fuck.
> >
> >Adam

--
Regards,

Karel Jansens
==============================================================
"You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
==============================================================

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From: "Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:59:34 -0500
Reply-To: "Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You sound like a very responsible parent.  I applaud your efforts.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:RMsD6.14637$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Since this is an informational group, how many people would consider
> > it a safe place for a 10 year old to look for information about a new
> > digital camera?
>
> > Would you want your child using the word in everyday conversation?
>
> I wouldn't be letting my 10 year old child perusing newsgroups on their
> own.  And then, if we encountered this same situation, I would have dealt
> with it in a mature manner than most on here seem to be handling it.
>
> Adam
>



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From: "Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:05:02 -0500
Reply-To: "Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It always happens...whenever someone is confronted with ideas they don't
like or people who don't think the same way they do, this insults is
invariably thrown out.  Very mature.

"John Ridley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hitler.  Nazis.  There, this thread is officially over.  Please shut
> up.
>
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:19:08 -0700, "Kevin"
> <Raknaman(NoSpam)@charter.net> wrote:
>
> >> > No, you are not f*****, but you are a jackass for posting a subject
line
> >> > like that.  And the people who are defending you are bigger
jackasses.
> >>
> >> Why? It's a perfectly common (ab)use of the word in contemporary
> >> English. Why is he a jackass for writing English?
> >
> >
> >Figures an even bigger jackass would think using a subject line like that
is
> >okay!
> >
>
> -----
> John Ridley
> http://ridley.dyndns.org



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: mounting iso-fs hangs
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Apr 2001 13:01:36 GMT

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:15:25 +0200, Michael Wohlwend staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>my problem:
> if a generate an iso-fs with mkiso -o image.iso -R cd_dir/
> and the try to mount it with 
>"mount image.iso -t iso9660 -o loop /image"
>the mount command hangs and I am not even able to kill the mount.
>I'm using kernel 2.4.2 and Reiserfs

This is a known problem with kernel 2.4.2 and the loopback filesystem.
Upgrade the kernel to 2.4.3, or get the loopback patch for 2.4.2.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: Sebastian Wild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.protocols.dns,comp.unix.admin,japan.www.server.apache
Subject: Re: About Virtual Hosting, plz HELP
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:04:31 +0200

That may have a very simple reason :)
Did you restart or send a HUP signal to your httpd after applying the
changes you listed in your posting to the httpd.conf? You need to do
that to make httpd re-read httpd.conf because your httpd is running
standalone!

Remember: if you have more virtual hosts in your httpd.conf you should
send httpd a HUP signal instead of restarting it 'cause that is faster
and does not cause any downtime :)

mfg
Wastl

Ella schrieb:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am in trouble.
> What I am to do is to host an additional virtual host www.waphotmail.com.
> 
> I have tried looking into ducuments and helps, but everytime
> www.waphotmail.com
> just redirect to the documents of www.hkix.com though I have declared the
> different
> DocumentRoot in the Apache config. file httpd.conf:
-- 
Linux ist wie ein Pinguin im Wasser, elegant und geschmeidig
    und f�r manch andere Spezies durchaus gef�hrlich.

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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot upload with Squid
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:10:43 +0200

I have Squid proxy installed, everything works fine, but I can't upload
files to any ftp server on the internet.



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From: "Jeffrey J. Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid login tricks (/etc/issue question)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:20:33 GMT

I'm interested in this as well.  I have edited the /etc/issue output in
rc.local and have a script executing on startup that creates my
/etc/motd file but and ANSI codes in it just show up as the codes not
the colours.  I'd be most interested in how to get this to work.

PS: is there a website with the color codes listed

David wrote:
> 
> Proton2112 wrote:
> >
> > I'm using Redhat 6.2.
> >
> > I am trying to make the login message in /etc/issue have colors.  I have
> >
> > not had luck just inserting ansi-looking codes (but maybe I didn't do it
> >
> > right).  Anyone know if this can be done?  Maybe it's whatever is
> > displaying /etc/issue (I have no idea which program it is) doesn't read
> > ansi codes.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > proton2112
> >
> > *remove stuff from email to reply directly*
> 
> /etc/issue and /etc/isue.net are re-written at each boot of the system
> with these lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> 
> #    echo "" > /etc/issue
> #    echo "$R" >> /etc/issue
> #    echo "Kernel $(uname -r) on $a $SMP$(uname -m)" >> /etc/issue
> #
> #    cp -f /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
> #    echo >> /etc/issue
> 
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more W/U's than 99.166% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

-- 
================================
Jeffrey Bacon  
================================
Administrator,   Breakfast.ca
Student,         Carleton U.
Java Programmer, Extrordinaire!
================================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.breakfast.ca/~jjbacon

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:41:50 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wouldn't be letting my 10 year old child perusing newsgroups on their
> own.  And then, if we encountered this same situation, I would have dealt
> with it in a mature manner than most on here seem to be handling it.

Exactly!  Usenet has a lot of bad language.  If we talked to the level
of a youngster younger than 10, we'd be sugarcoating things to the
extent that the adults wouldn't be able to discuss anything.  Bad
language is also one of the least of our worries, as there is a lot of
other adult matter on NG's (dealing with death, recovering from
alcoholism, etc.) that are inappropriate for kids.  NG's are not for
kids.  Anyone who thinks a kid can just logon to daddy's internet
service, and safely browse usenet NG's and not see something that is
disturbing to a child is severly deluded.  But that doesn't mean we
should spew forth crap and filth just because we can get away with it.

Kids should be browsing the internet only under adult supervision.


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From: Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP100 not having correct major or minor number
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:41:52 GMT

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> ID 0.  So that will be /dev/sga or equivalent (I don't know what the
> scsi cdrom devices are called on your distro .. posibly scd0?). The
Right. /dev/scd0 is the CDROM drive.

> zip is on the second conroller (scsi1) with ID 6. It will be /dev/sdb.
> Use fdisk on it to see where the partitions are. It's partition will
> probably (but not certainly) be /dev/sdb4.
Sorry to tell you, but I have it mounted at /dev/sda4 now (insmodding
sd_mod.o did it), thanks to Markus Kossmann for getting me on the right
track. 

Bart
=======================================================================
The internet is a too slow way of doing things you'd never do without
it.
                                              Bart Friederichs, 1998
=========================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Subject: Re: Sailboat Racing & Navigation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:53:39 GMT

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:52:13 -0400, Tom Hubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I write a commercial marine navigation and tidal current prediction
>application for Windows 3.1 (compiled with Borland c++ 3.1). I am
>considering releasing this or a variant of this under something like
>Linux. My goal is to continue to develop bells and whistles but to share
>the load with others. No particular commercial goals.
>
>In order to get recreational sailboat racers to use it I would like the
>public version to run under Windows too, if that is possible. Getting
>them to use any software while racing is a challenge. Getting them to
>install an OS that is not Windows will be nearly impossible.

I can't picture recreational sailboat racers with onboard Windows PCs.
Do they?  Wouldn't this be a natural for a PDA?

>I am an electrical engineer and optical engineer and not a professional
>programmer. I have been programming, as necessary, since the mid 1960's.
>So I cannot exactly claim to be new to computers. But I will say that I
>do not keep up with the software business. I am only vaguely familiar
>with Linux capabilities.
>
>In the last 2 weeks I have connected with Linux Users Groups in Columbia
>and Laurel MD.
>
>Any suggestions on how to tackle this? 

What?  Port to Linux?  There is Wine, specifically WineLib, which is
designed to port Windows applications to native Linux apps.  Newsgroup
is comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine, web page is www.winehq.com.  There
are companies (CodeWeavers is one) that will even do it for you.

But I thought you said it didn't make sense -- you think Linux is a
hard sell to this market.  I'm confused.

>Is there another Newsgroup where I should post this??
>
>You can get a look at last years demo at
>http://www.clark.net/pub/thubin/aocs . The sample screens there are
>several years old and come from an old DOS version of the program. The
>downloadable demo runs under Windows 3.1 or better.
>
>Tom Hubin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


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