Linux-Misc Digest #696, Volume #21                Mon, 6 Sep 99 02:13:20 EDT

Contents:
  Made my own "live CD" at last!  Works great, too :-) (Sitaram Chamarty)
  Re: Is is possible to store debug information from a seg fault? (M van Oosterhout)
  THANK YOU!! Re: NFS Daemon Failed to load:  nfssvc not Implemented (newsseeker)
  Re: Help Naming Executable files (Paul Kimoto)
  Please Help me! ("William Mariani")
  Kernel-Panic ???? (Sebastian Koball)
  Re: lilo or loadlin timing= ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Help: RH6 Installation Problem (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Help: RH6 Installation Problem (Leonard Evens)
  Re: make linux disk only one (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Can't Creat boot disk/install LILO (Leonard Evens)
  RE: Hotmail anyone? ("Sam Sim")
  Re: making linux go away ("Jeroen Willems")
  Re: Say a prayer? ("Edgar M. Brocke")
  Re: Windows 98 and Caldera Open Linux Help !!!!! (Uwe Klingerlocalhost)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Made my own "live CD" at last!  Works great, too :-)
Date: 5 Sep 1999 22:26:27 -0700

[Apologies if you see this twice; I posted it this morning and as
of now (10pm) it hadn't made it anywhere outside my ISP's news
spool!  Trying again...]

Stuck with a machine that has only Windows?  Can't fdisk the damn
thing and "upgrade" it?

If it's a relatively new machine, read on...

Imagine a CD that you pop into almost any "recent" PC (needs a
decent amount of RAM and preferably a VBE 2.0 compliant video
card) and go straight into Linux.

Imagine getting X to work (at 1024x768@16bpp or better, albeit
un-accelerated), without even knowing what video card it has.  (In
fact, imagine going straight into "xdm"!)

With a little more info on the hardware available, imagine doing
almost anything that your distro of Linux does (ethernet, ppp,
whatever...).

=====

Well, after searching thru usenet for a while, and getting some
ideas from posts that talked about similar things, I have finally
made a CD with a "live filesystem" on it.  It is based on a full
(well, almost) install of RH 5.2, but you can use whatever you
prefer to make your own.

The URL:

    http://www.diac.com/~sitaram/linux-live-cd/

will give you details on why and how I did this.  Almost anything
in there that reflects my personal choices at the present moment
(distro/version, kernel version, XFree86 version, pcmcia-cs
version, choice of packages installed...) can of course be changed
by you to get yourself YOUR live CD.

Here're some details:

  - bootable (of course!)
  - kernel 2.2.6 (too lazy right now, but any 2.2.x+ will do),
    with *as much as possible* compiled as modules
  - pcmcia-cs 3.0.12
  - all X servers avlbl on my RH 5.2 CD (just in case the video
    card is not VBE 2.0 compliant and so the frame buffer server
    doesn't work, or you absolutely must have accelerated
    graphics!)
  - AfterStep, WindowMaker, and fvwm2/95
  - gcc and all the other stuff
  - "developed" on my NEC Versa laptop, tested on 3 other machines
    (one of which is a Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop) without even
    knowing what video card it has!
  - networking works great, even ppp of course.

For more details please see the web page above.

Any and all comments welcome.

My main purpose in doing this was to preserve my sanity during the
next few weeks, when I will be traveling with a customer's laptop
(long story) on which I am not allowed to do something as drastic
as installing an entire new O/S.  The thought of 3+ weeks, mostly
out of town, with a laptop that runs only N(ice) T(oy), nearly
drove me to insanity!

A great side effect is to show off to Windows people (or PoBs, as
Tom C over on the perl newsgroups puts it :-)  Challenge anyone to
come up with a similar "N(ice) T(oy) on a CD".  I have actually
seen one person go for an aspirin after just *thinking* about it
for a few minutes [1].

Have fun!

Sitaram.

[1] OK, I admit I made that up.  But it *could* happen, you know!
Try it on the next NT geek you see.  See their brain go into
seizure trying to grasp the how or the why of the concept :-)


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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:41:33 +1000
From: M van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is is possible to store debug information from a seg fault?

Chris Butler wrote:
> 
> [comp.os.linux.misc - Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:33:59 +0100] * Spike! wrote *
> >> Do you have a core file ? Maybe you find a kind soul who'll help you debug
> >> using it ...
> >> (It might be at /core or somewhere like this).
> > If all the filesystems are unmounted when the segfault occurs...
> > Where would the core file go?
> 
> Where would the executable be read from?

It comes from /sbin which is most likely on the /
partition, which is at that time mounted read-only.

In response to the original post, it's caused
by him having a buggy APM BIOS. Turn of APM
support or upgrade your BIOS.

Martijn van Oosterhout
Australia

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From: newsseeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: THANK YOU!! Re: NFS Daemon Failed to load:  nfssvc not Implemented
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:05:03 -0500

Everyone,

Thank you so much.  I've been tearing my hair out trying to find out why, and
your suggestions look like they did the trick.  I just recompiled my kernel
with the NFS server and daemon included in the kernel, not as modules.....that
seems to be the key.  Why?  I don't know, but I'm just happy to get it
running.

Thanks again,
--nwskr

"Peter S. Fales" wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, root  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >When upgrading my RedHat 6.0 to kernels 2.2.10 and 2.2.12, the
> >NFS Daemon does not load properly.
> >
> >At boot, I get FAILED, and when trying to run /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd
> >manually, I get;
> >nfssvc: Function not implemented
> >
> >NFS runs properly under the default RH6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15 kernel.
> >
> >Any suggestions on how to fix this?
>
> I ran into this problem and fixed it by the following.  I'm not sure
> why this works so, I don't know if this is the "right" way to do it:
>
> (Using "make menuconfig")
>
> - Under "Code maturity level options" select
>         "Prompt for development and/or incomplete drivers"
>
> - Under "Filesystems->Network File Systems" select "Y" for NFS server
>         support.  (I *think* you can build it as a module also, but
>         you may need to manually load the nfsd module.)
>
> - Despite the above, continue using the user space NFS drivers.
>
> YMMV.
>
> --
> Peter Fales                       Lucent Technologies, Room 9A-213
> N9IYJ                             2000 N Naperville Rd PO Box 3033
> internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Naperville, IL 60566-7033
> Remove the "1" from my email      work: (630) 979-8031


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Help Naming Executable files
Date: 5 Sep 1999 23:39:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason Bond wrote:
> I've quite confused about which files can be exectued
> by just typing their names at a prompt
> and which ones require a ./ in front of them.

> Now gzip can be executed by just typing gzip at the prompt
> while bzip2 requires one to type ./bzip2.  Why exactly
> is this?

"." is another name for the current working directory, so when
you type "./bzip2", you are specifying a particular file.
When you type "gzip", you are asking the shell to look up the
name "gzip" in its list of alias, functions, and the PATH.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "William Mariani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please Help me!
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:52:14 -0500

I have a Gateway 2000 Destination with a pentium II 333mhz. It came with an
STB Videorage II Videocard accelerated with an Apocalypse 3Dx card. The
monitor is a Gateway Destination 36" and I need to know what settings I use
to install it correctly. The only info I have is that the refresh rate is
60mhz (NTSC60). But have no other info. Please help me!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Koball)
Subject: Kernel-Panic ????
Date: 6 Sep 1999 07:04:11 +0100

please help !
what does it mean : Kernel panic ?
thank you
sebastian.koball(at)stud.uni-rostock.de


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lilo or loadlin timing=
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:16:23 GMT

I checked that first... The only thing it says is that it cannot be
changed while the system is up.  What I saw was related to specifying
the timing along with the video mode.

Eric

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:38:55 GMT,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've heard that the video timing for a frambuffer device could be
> > specified in either lilo or loadlin.  I believe I saw the setting
start
> > with timing=... but I can't find that post anymore.  Can anyone help
me
> > with this.
>
> Tried /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt?
>
> Note that you can't specify the timings unless you're using a device
> that supports it (such as Matrox).
>
> --
> Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
>       Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be
waiting
>       Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh
day.
>       Netscum, Bane of Elves.
>


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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: RH6 Installation Problem
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:52:04 -0500

Tan wrote:
> 
> I'm new to Linux. I've 2 HDDs on 1st IDE and CD-ROM on 2nd IDE. Pri
> master HDD (8.4GB) used for Win95. Pri slave HDD (2.1GB) wanted for
> installing Linux.
> 
> After selecting "Everything" as package option and starting creating

That was your first mistake, although I'm not sure it caused your
problem.  Everything includes an awful lot.  For example, it includes
a Novell network server, which you probably don't want.   Instead
I would recommend using the default packages.  You can always
add other packages later.

> filesystem, error message came out:
> Mount failed: Invalid argument

I don't know just why you got this error message, but your
partitioning seems screwy to me.   For example, I don't see
why you need 1 GB for / exclusive of /usr and /var.  There
really isn't all that much left to put in it.   Also, the
/usr directory on my machine has 777 MB,  and I certainly
haven't installed `everything'.

I strongly suggest that you repartition.  With a disk that small,
you don't really need more than a / and swap partition.  Forget
about separate /usr and /var partitions.   If you
want a separate /home partition, leave at least 1 GB for /,
or better 1.25 GB.   That will leave room for other packages
and upgrades to the OS.

In prinicple it would be a good idea to have a separate /boot
partition fo 10-20 MB, but since your disk only has 1023
cylinders, it is not necessary.

Make sure you put the lilo boot loader in the master boot record
of the first drive, or you won't be able to boot Linux from the
hard drives.

> 
> Here is my fdisk list:
> Disk /tmp/hdb: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 4032 * 52 bytes
> Device          Boot    Start   End             Blocks          Id      System
> /tmp/hdb1       *               1               9               18112+          83   
>   Linux native
> /tmp/hdb2                       10              517             1024128         83   
>   Linux native
> /tmp/hdb3                       518             1023    1020096         5       
>Extended
> /tmp/hdb6                       518             550             66465           82   
>   Linux swap
> /tmp/hdb7                       551             754             411232+         83   
>   Linux native
> /tmp/hdb8                       755             885             264064+         83   
>   Linux native
> /tmp/hdb9                       886             1023    278176+         83      
>Linux native
> 
> Mount points are as follow:
> hdb1 - /boot
> hdb2 - /
> hdb7 - /usr
> hdb8 - /home
> hdb9 - /var
> 

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: RH6 Installation Problem
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:00:53 -0500

MBH wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
>  I havent tried RD6.0 but the RH5.1 must be installed on master drive either
> on primary IDE or secondary IDE. Suggest you change your set up : put one hd
> on 1st IDE , second hd on 2nd IDE, all jumpered as master. Then put your

I don't think this is relevant.   I don't remember RH5.1, but under
6.0, /boot must be on either /dev/hda or /dev/hdb, i.e. hard drives
on the first controller, which is what he has.

Actually, reading the installation instructions literally, they
would seem to allow /boot on either /dev/hda or /dev/hdc if
there is no other (CD) drive on the first controller.  But I
don't know if they mean that.  I seem to remember people installing
Linux on /dev/hdc in a dual boot system.  Can anyone comment?

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: make linux disk only one
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:16:13 -0500

Manut wrote:
> 
> who recommend to me about seft make linux disk ?
> thank you.

I hate to be chauvinistic about my native tongue, but a question
posted in a garbled form of English is not going to be understandable
to anyone, native English speaker or not.   If one does not know
much English, it might be better to post the question in one's
native language and hope a speaker of that language is reading
the newsgroup.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't Creat boot disk/install LILO
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 23:38:36 -0500

Michael wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I am haing a problem when trying to install Linux on my Packard Bell
> 133, with a 1.2 gig hard drive.
> 
> The installation of Mandrake 6.0 seems to go along fine, using their
> latest boot image, up until we get to the "make a boot disk" section.
> Whenever I try to make a boot disk, it pops up with the error that it
> can't make the boot disk, but it never even seems to access the drive.
> No drive activity light comes on, nor do I hear it spin at all, and
> this error pops up very quickly.
> 
> Well, tiring of this nonsense, I skipped a boot disk and went on to
> instlal the bootloader (LILO) with the EXACT same thing happening.  It
> doesn't even seem to look, befor giving up and saying no way.
> 
> Two questions:
> 1) What is this dumb newbie doing wrong, and
> 
> 2) What should I do to fix this problem?
> 
> If you can reply via e-mail I would appreciate it, but please post to
> the group to.. I am sure others are having this problem too.

I am not familiar with Mandrake, but under RedHat 5.2, the program
mkbootdisk would fail if the file /etc/conf.modules had repeated
entries in it.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "Sam Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Hotmail anyone?
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:10:30 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Try http://joydesk.com.  web-based email, message board, calendar and
address book with secure ssl login.

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From: "Jeroen Willems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: 6 Sep 1999 05:14:58 GMT

Try this...

Boot up using a MS boot floppy with the fdisk and sys programs on it.

Then type: 
        fdisk /MBR
        sys c:
e presto!

Regards,

jEroen

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From: "Edgar M. Brocke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Say a prayer?
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:51:25 -0700

 "Edgar M. Brocke" wrote:
>
> Dear Armand,
>
> Thank you for getting back to me!!!
>
> I have not founf any solution to my problem. If you can point me in the
> right direction I would really appreciate it!
>
> I have been ready to get rid of COL 2.2 because this. I give up too easily
I
> think.
>
> Maybe I'll be able to get this going after all.
>
> Thanks for your encouragement.
>
> -Edgar
>
> P.s. May the Lord be with you as you're working on the boats!
>
> Have a great weekend too.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

Thanks for the good word from the Lord, God works in mysterious ways!

Now Edgar, going to http://www.calderasystems.com/support/forums/ I
selected the link Caldera Systems Users Archives and went back about 5
pages of ealier messages and found this.

Hope this helps, I had to do this in command mode using vi for an
editor, as root type:

vi /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc

Then move you cursor to where you want to make the changes and type "a"
without the quotation marks to insert text or backspace to delete text.
Make it look like the example below.

Press Esc to get out of insert mode and then type :wq to write and quit.

Logout and then log back in to effect the changes and then type "kde" at
the command prompt to start your server.

If your Xserver is configured correctly then your KDE Desktop will
appear, getting the Xserver right is the hardest thing about linux, if
you can get it working then everything else falls into place.

Its like that old tale of the young man whose teacher instructs him to
turn over a large rock in order to recieve the power that is held
beneath it, after years of trying he finally does it but the power that
was held beneath it was really just the strength he had gained by the
test of moving it.  Enjoy!  Armand Winter

############################################################################
#######

A fix for X-server startup


           From: Fedor Andrianov
           Subject: A fix for X-server startup
           Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:35:30 -0700


       Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
      After a default instaltion of Caldera2.2 there may
      be a problem starting X-server from non-graphical
      run-levels (say 2 or 3).
         Symptoms: You are sure (+/-) that you configured
      XFree86 for your system, You type "startx" or "kde"
      and nothing promising happens.
         Possible Fix:  was suggested by Caldera people
      themselves, there could be an authentication conflict
      which does not let X-server to start. To get rid of the
      problem you need to edit your  /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
      to look like this:
      ######################################################
      #!/bin/bash

      XAUTH=$HOME/.Xauthority
      MKCOOKIE=/usr/bin/mcookie

      touch $XAUTH

      for host in localhost $HOSTNAME $HOST; do
          xauth add $host/unix:0 . `$MKCOOKIE`
          xauth add $host:0 . `$MKCOOKIE`
      done

      exec Xwrapper -auth $XAUTH :0
      ########################################################
      in case you card was configured correctly, now you should
      be able to use "startx" or "kde" to start X-windows system
      from non-graphical level.
      Good Luck!
      Sincerely,
                 Fedor Andrianov.
      -
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From: Uwe Klingerlocalhost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 98 and Caldera Open Linux Help !!!!!
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 03:13:39 -0400

Todd Lenderman wrote:

> I installed a new 13 gig hard drive on my computer and installed windows 98.
> I partitioned the hard drive into 3 partitions and installed Linux on the
> other partition. Linux works great after I installed it but when I reboot my
> computer I'm back in Windows 98. I tried installing the Boot Manager
> that came on the disk "PartitionMagic" but had no luck. I have been reading
> about LILO but I'm a little bit lost : )  I'm thinking of buying System
> Comander to see if this will help. Right now I am stuck in Window98
> until I get this thing to boot to Linux.
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can send...
>
> Todd Lenderman
>
> *[EMAIL PROTECTED]*

Hi,

What distribution do you use? I think the best think is to use LILO.
Are you able to boot into linux? You can use loadlin from the dos prompt,
it should be shiped with your distribution in the dosutils dir or so.
When your in Linux, you should setup a lilo setup. Look into your linux book,
there should be a example or have a look at the LILO Howto at www.linuxberg.com

Uwe


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