Linux-Misc Digest #696, Volume #25 Fri, 8 Sep 00 04:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Lilo removal from mbr (Graham Daniell)
Re: Tekram DC-390 SCSI - start on boot ("Dan")
Re: Help on mathematical functions (Kalle Olavi Niemitalo)
Statistics Software for Linux? (J Garcia)
Re: ASCII File transfer over Ethernet to Mulitport Serial on Linux box? (Pete
Zaitcev)
Re: what's up with Sun? (T. Max Devlin)
Clicking Two buttons on Logitech Locks up X (RH6.2 Enlightenment) (root)
Re: Goddamnit! Can't download files (Richard Steiner)
Re: How do you change the timezone on Linux? (Villy Kruse)
Re: IP address stealing on Intranet ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: ppp, direct lan connection, and squid ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: buffer_dirty - what's the @#$%? ("Ian Dichkovsky")
Re: new mail from "Cron" ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4 ("Tom Millington")
Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4 ("Tom Millington")
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?AND-Verkn=FCpfungen?= mit Grep (Otto Wyss)
Partition destroyed? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me?= Berthier)
WRONG HEADING - should be " Installing SUSE 6.4 on SCSI hard drives from SCSI CD"
("Tom Millington")
Re: The Government's Decision to Use Microsoft (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: My project. (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: pppd wants remote sysyem to authenticate ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: Graham Daniell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Lilo removal from mbr
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 12:13:21 +0800
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All you need is a dos BOOT disk with fdisk on it. Boot from this disk, THEN do
"fdisk /mbr" Then you can use fdisk in the usual way to create DOS parrtitions
etc. (Note to remove the Linux partitions you will need to use Linux fdisk - I
do this by booting from my RH Linux CD-ROM and starting a "custom" install.
Choose the ooption to "use fdisk" when presented, and type "m" to see help on
how thos add / remove partitions. After removing the Linux partitions, use "w"
to write the changes to the disk. Then reboot.
I have come across this problem on numerous occassions, and this always works.
Regards,
Graham, Daniell
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CatfishFred wrote:
> Needing to do the same thing, I tried dos fdisk and re-formatting. Never
> could get it to work. After 3 days of trying I finally Low Level Formatted
> the drive with Award's bios prog. Only way I could get to work..
>
> "Dave T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8p8sht$r96$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Get an MS-DOS disk with the fdisk command on it.
> >
> > The type fdisk /mbr
> >
> > That should remove the Master Boot Record.
> >
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> > "oneal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > I want to take out the 2nd hard drive which contains Linux and move it
> > > to another computer. How do I get rid of LILO in the mbr? Should I
> > > reformat my linux os since I'm going to another system? Should I do this
> > > before I take it out of my first system?
> > > Oneal
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tekram DC-390 SCSI - start on boot
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:49:21 -0400
I am using 2.2.16 with the native support. I was trying the SYM53c8xxx and
the Tekram driver, not the NCR version... Do you think that was it? I tried
installing the same type of card in a blank machine and doing a fresh
install on it. It shows (during boot) that it detects one scsi host and it
get's the NCR one... Should I have used the NCR instead of the SYMbios?
"Rich Piotrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DrCt5.38599$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8p3vd5$j79$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a Tekram DC-390U2W SCSI card. I compile support into the kernel
> > (have tried module and *, but no help). I have to boot up, wait until
> > init
> > drops to a shell because it can't mount all the filesystems, and then
> > insert the module and mount the filesystems. I then go to runlevel 3 to
> > resume startup. How do I get it to do this at startup?
> >
> >
>
> Strange, I have a DC-390F (same chipset). I have done it with the support
> compiled in and as a module. I am using the standard NCR53C8XX support.
> If it is done as a module, you must of course, create an "initrd". Are you
using
> the stock kernel or is it patched with the tekram mods. What Kernel
version?
>
> Rich Piotrowski
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Subject: Re: Help on mathematical functions
From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Sep 2000 00:53:06 +0300
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since most programs needed libc.a, but few needed libm.a, they
> were separated so those who did not need libm.a could use the
> memory for something else.
I don't see the point. Wouldn't the linker ignore libm.a anyway
if the program doesn't refer to anything in it?
... or do you mean the _linker_ would run out of memory?
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:17:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Statistics Software for Linux?
I am looking for GNOME/Kde/command-line based
GPL/freeware statistics software for Linux. Any people
out there want to recommend their favorite statistics applications?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Subject: Re: ASCII File transfer over Ethernet to Mulitport Serial on Linux box?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 05:32:57 GMT
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 00:45:48 GMT, John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I work in a machine shop and the machinery uses ASCII files to control
> the machine movements. Currently we have the switch box setup to
> select which Win98 computer sends/recieves to which machine. We'd like
> to switch to multiport serial devices on a Linux server (where the
> files will be stored for re-use) to eliminate the problems we are
> having with the boxes (not a pleasant enviroment).
> John Branlund
I have some doubt that your Linux system is going to work
in "not a pleasant environment" where serial switchboxes fail.
Switchboxes should be much more rugged than whatever Linux box
you throw on the job (unless you boot off flash and have a
convection cooled sealed case).
Apart from this, there are some unknowns in your description.
The most important is the protocol used to upload control files
to the machinery. If this protocol is known, perhaps you can
write your own software to do this on Linux. If this protocol
is not known, you must use whatever software exist on Windows
and use some sort of a serial port redirector DLL to proxy
for all serial port exchanges.
--Pete
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 01:42:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Andrew N. McGuire in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, T. Max Devlin quoth:
[...]
>~~ Ooh-rah.
>
>Marine?
Navy, Triple Threat Company, NRTC Great Lakes. Choir.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Clicking Two buttons on Logitech Locks up X (RH6.2 Enlightenment)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:05:44 -0700
I installed RH 6.2 over 6.0 and upgraded the kernel to 2.4.0-test7,
still using the default
Enlightenment WM. I've got a Logitech mouseman on a PS/2 port. If I
click both the left and
right buttons at the same time, X locks up and will not respond to mouse
clicks. I have to
CTRL-ALT-BS to restart it and then it works again. I've tried everything
I could think of
in XF86Config Pointer section and the following is the only one I tried
where the mouse works
at all, but with this problem.
Section "Pointer"
Protocol "PS/2"
Device "/dev/mouse"
Buttons 3
BaudRate 1200
EndSection
I tried MMSeries, Mouseman, Mouseman+PS/2 and IMPS/2. All of those seem
to use the wrong
protocol and the pointer jumps all over.
I don't think the kernel had anything to do with it, as it happened with
stock RH 6.2.
Anyone have any Idea of what to try? This is annoying!
Mark Goldberg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Goddamnit! Can't download files
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 01:21:18 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>This is really beginning to tick me off.
>
>Lately I have been unable to download files. I have
>tried with ncftp and plain old ftp. Neither works.
>
>What happens is that it appears to download fine, all
>the way to the end, but at the end, the connection
>doesn't terminate and just doesn't complete.
Is it possible that you have a file (or directory) permission problem
in the location where you're trying to write the file?
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
And Boy, Are My Arms Tired!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: How do you change the timezone on Linux?
Date: 8 Sep 2000 06:43:30 GMT
On 8 Sep 2000 02:26:21 +0100, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>BST is GMT +01 hours and 00 minutes, if it's not broken then don't try to fix
>it. You look at the email from someone sending from a yahoo address, then it
>gets confusing, this guy lives 5 minutes down the road from me, his clock is
>set correctly but look what the header says:
>
>At the top of the header:
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 29 23:00:53 2000
>
>Then a bit fruther down:
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:28:12 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Are you on line at the moment?
>To: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>I wanted to know if he was on line, and only received a reply the following
>evening, their mail server is in the states somewhere looking at the header
>just confused me.
>
Local time = 14:28 minus -07:00 = 21:28 UTC = 22:28 BST
You then received it half an hour later at 23:00.
That's how you calculate the times.
Villy
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP address stealing on Intranet
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 01:43:39 -0500
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, D G quoth:
~~ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:39:18 -0700
~~ From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: IP address stealing on Intranet
~~
~~ "M. Buchenrieder" wrote:
~~ >
~~ > "kipz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
~~ > >I urge everybody in this group to with-hold any help to this person if
~~ > >it will be used to restrict peoples access to the web.
~~ >
~~ > Nonsense. There's no human right to web access. After all, this is
~~ > a highly expensive tool, and somebody does have to pay the phone
~~ > bills, huh?
~~
~~ Tell that to Al Gore and his "internet access tax".
Hey, he created it, so he can tax people for its use if he
wants to, dammit.
anm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ppp, direct lan connection, and squid
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 06:58:10 GMT
well right now everything is going out via the ppp link (I think because
it was the one set as default gateway in the routing table).
so whether one uses the proxy or not in their browser they all end up
using the phone line (ppp).
a few days ago we had separate machines. one machine has a default
gateway pointing to the school router via a lan, the other machine
uses the ppp conection and the squid so configuring what goes where was
relatively easy.
jojo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You don't say what is happening now. Maybe you need local DNS zones
or
> /etc/hosts entries so school mail is routed to LAN IPs instead of
> going out to the internet and back.
>
> And whether web browsers use squid or not for certain IP ranges is
> determined by browser settings. For example if you set Netscape to
"No
> proxy for 192.168." (trailing dot) it would not use squid for
192.168.x.x
> IPs, and where the request goes depends upon your -net or -host
routing.
>
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From: "Ian Dichkovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: buffer_dirty - what's the @#$%?
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:11:55 +0300
> > I copy file _FROM_ floppy to hard
> it has time. If you remove the floppy before it gets around to
> doing/finishing the copy the buffer is "dirty."
I don't remove floppy before umount.
>
> sync
>
> forces the write (rather than waiting).
I know about sync
so maybe I must type
mount /mnt/fd; cp /mnt/fd/* /prj; sync; umount /mnt/fd
Bye!
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: new mail from "Cron"
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:59:56 +0100
Devon Harding wrote:
Hi,
>
> Why do I keep getting this mail from the cron daemon:
>
Cron is getting upset - the last bit may reveal something...
> /usr/bin/news.daily: /var/lib/news/.news.daily: Permission denied
Check permissions on this file....
On my system...
[root@phard1e0 /root]# ls /var/lib/news -al
total 24
drwxrwxr-x 2 news news 4096 Jun 4 18:08 .
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Jun 5 04:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Mar 2 2000 .news.daily
<snip>
It would appear to be present on my machine although zero length.
> error: bad top line in state file /var/lib/logrotate.status
>
...so check the file /var/lib/logrotate.status
For reference mine looks like...
logrotate state -- version 1
/var/log/cron 2000-9-3
/var/log/messages 2000-9-3
/var/log/secure 2000-9-3
/var/log/maillog 2000-9-3
/var/log/spooler 2000-9-3
/var/log/boot.log 2000-9-3
/var/log/htmlaccess.log 2000-6-5
/var/log/netconf.log 2000-9-1
/var/log/xferlog 2000-9-3
/var/log/wtmp 2000-9-1
/var/log/samba/log.nmb 2000-6-28
/var/log/samba/log.smb 2000-6-28
/var/log/httpd/access_log 2000-9-3
/var/log/httpd/error_log 2000-9-3
Regards
Phil Q
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From: "Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:21:48 +0100
I am a newbie trying to put Linux on another server, namely an old P133
(Altos) that has 3 x 4.5Gb SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CDROM. The machine is
currently loaded with an old copy of SCO UNIX. I have tried to use the Linux
boot floppy but neither the hard drives nor the CD are seen - in other words
it says I have no hard drives or CD player.
Where do I go from here? Help! I am a newbie so simple steps please.
Many thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:22:55 +0100
I am trying to connect an HP DeskJet 850C to a P100 running SUSE Linux 6.4.
The printer is connected to a CAT5/10 Mbs network via an Axis OfficeBasic
Print Server. The printer has a network name (in Axis) of 193.1.1.201_9900
and a model name of DESKJET 850C.
I am a nenwbie at Linux and cannot find any information that helps me
configure this. I have seen other messages that say use 'printtool' but I
can find no reference to this on my distribution. Also, on the same network
is another UNIX server running SCO OpenServer 5.5. I would eventually like
all of our printers to connect in this way and be seen by all PCs and
Servers alike. This printer is currently only seen by PCs with the Axis
print server software loaded.
Can anyone give me simple step-by-step instructions for connecting,
configuring and driving the printer from Linux and/or SCO UNIX. Basic steps
pleas. I really am a newbie.
Many thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss)
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?AND-Verkn=FCpfungen?= mit Grep
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:28:34 +0200
Ich wollte letzthin mal nach bestimmten Perl-Beispielen suchen, aber
konnte Grep nicht zu einer vern�nftigen Mitarbeit bewegen. K�nnte mir
jemand sagen wie ich folgendes l�se:
Ich m�chte zuerst nach Perlscripten suchen (-e "#!/usr/bin/perl") und
das Resultat wieder Grep f�ttern um z.B. nach "gzip" zu suchen. Also in
etwa
grep -rsl -e "#!/usr/bin/perl" l grep -e "gzip"
Erstes Problem, der Pfad in -e... wird nicht als Suchkriterium
verwendet. Zweites Problem, die Pipe zum zweiten Grep funktioniert
nicht.
O. Wyss
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me?= Berthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition destroyed?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:35:02 +0200
Hi,
I had an hard drive with 2 partitions, win98 on the first one, linux
on the second one. After reinstalling win98, I was horrified when I see
that my linux partition didn't seem to be recognized: the win partition
has not been enlarged to fit all the disk, it kept its previous size,
but I can't see any more my linux partition! Event partition magic tell
me that I only have one partition... :-(
So well, my question is that is there a frequent problem with win98,
which has a solution (I could dream...)?
Could it be as well the boot sector which would have been destroyed?
(what would be the solution?)
Or may be a problem with the superblock of the linux partition? (i
don't think so, but it is just a supposition)
Please help!!
--
jerome
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From: "Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: WRONG HEADING - should be " Installing SUSE 6.4 on SCSI hard drives from SCSI
CD"
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:29:13 +0100
Sorry - sent two messages and got the titles mixed up!
"Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:...
> I am a newbie trying to put Linux on another server, namely an old P133
> (Altos) that has 3 x 4.5Gb SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CDROM. The machine
is
> currently loaded with an old copy of SCO UNIX. I have tried to use the
Linux
> boot floppy but neither the hard drives nor the CD are seen - in other
words
> it says I have no hard drives or CD player.
>
> Where do I go from here? Help! I am a newbie so simple steps please.
>
> Many thanks
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Government's Decision to Use Microsoft
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:53:14 +0200
A great argument from the government to use a min. C2 security rating.
What about Linux beeing more secure than NT is NOT the case.
NT out of the box is more secure then Linux out of the box. Since Linux is
multiuser by default
unlike NT which will always be a extra security thread when it comes to Buffer
Overflow exploits. (Which have happend to much in Linux! specially RedHats
security issues were the past 2 years a thorn in the eye of many webadmin).
With some effort you can make Linux secure and because you can go deeper down
in the OS you do have more control then with NT. But this takes effort.
Then again Linux can't be rated since you have 100 or more distro's so you
can't generally rate Linux.
A better candidate for the NSCS to rate is OpenBSD or NETBSD which have proven
to be very very secure and they have only 1 point were distro's are made. So
rate 1 and you know they are all that save.
Personally I think rating security in different classes is more a management
trick. You can by a B1 or even a A1 proven OS. But with no propper
administration it can be as leak as a fully turned open fosset. You can install
a buggy service or software that you need. It happend before and will happen in
the past.
Personally I would like to see that governments would rate a complete
server+network setup on security. So that the specific situation is rated and
it should be anually re-rated. Just like elevators are rated every 2 years here
in The Netherlands. It could be save 2 years ago but who says it will be 6
months or even 2 years later?
Raymond
TechnoJoe wrote:
> A recent OSOpinion article perked my interest about the Navy's recent
> decision to use the Microsoft Windows operating system in its next
> generation aircraft carrier
> (http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2000/0807/news-navy-08-07-00.asp). Two
> years earlier, a divide by zero error on a Microsoft Windows NT machine left
> the USS Yorktown dead in the water for over two hours
> (http://www.gcn.com/archives/gcn/1998/july13/cov2.htm). The sequence of
> these events forces one to ask the question: why would the government choose
> the Microsoft Windows operating system despite the known defects and
> problems? The answer is really quite simple - they do not have a choice in
> the matter.
>
> The Department of Defense has a little known rule that all computer products
> (hardware and software) containing classified or unclassified sensitive
> information must be evaluated and rated. The National Computer Security
> Center (NCSC), a branch of the NSA, is responsible for evaluating and rating
> commercial security products. These products fall into one of four
> divisions: D - Minimal Security, C - Discretionary Protection, B - Mandatory
> Protection, and A - Verified Protection. Divisions C, B, and A are divided
> into classes: C1 - Discretionary Security Protection (no longer in use),
> C2 - Controlled Access Protection, B1 - Labeled Security Protection, B2 -
> Structured Protection, B3 - Security Domains, and A1 - Verified Design (see
> Orange Book, http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/library/rainbow/index.html).
> The ratings, in order from least secure to most secure, are D, C1, C2, B1,
> B2, B3, and A1.
>
> To make the rating system a little clearer, I'll draw an analogy. Microsoft
> DOS with the equivalent security of a Speedo - not very secure - would have
> a D rating. Microsoft Windows 95/98/ME with the equivalent security of a
> wooden barrel - stops rotten vegetables thrown by novice users but not
> bullets from professional hackers/crackers - would have a C1 rating.
> Microsoft Windows NT/2000 with the equivalent security of a bulletproof
> vest - able to stop professional hackers/crackers - has a C2 rating.
>
> Microsoft was very cunning in obtaining this rating. Microsoft Windows NT
> 4.0 is the only general-purpose operating system rated by the NCSC
> (http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/epl/historical.html). Other operating
> systems are rated, but those operating systems are designed for specific
> machines like mainframes and supercomputers, not general-purpose personal
> computers. Since all computer products containing classified or
> unclassified sensitive information must be rated for the government to use
> them, Microsoft Windows is the only general-purpose operating system the
> government can use. Hence, Microsoft has a monopoly on all general-purpose
> operating systems sold to the government.
>
> If you really want to break Microsoft's monopoly, you need to get
> alternative operating systems, like Linux, rated by the NCSC. Many
> companies, like Red Hat, do not want to invest the time or money to have
> their products evaluated and rated, but I believe that the potential for
> government contracts (and the knowledge that our nuclear secrets are a
> little bit safer) is well worth the investment. In addition, Microsoft will
> no longer be able to beat the Linux crowd over the head with the "No
> Security Rating" argument
> (http://www.microsoft.com/NTServer/nts/news/msnw/LinuxMyths.asp).
>
> I believe Linux is capable of much more than just meeting the C2 rating
> Microsoft Windows NT holds. Since Linux can do everything that Microsoft
> Windows NT can do (and then some), one can reasonably assume that Linux can
> achieve a minimum C2 rating. In order to meet the B1 requirements, the
> operating system must be able to append security information to objects
> after they leave the system. Microsoft Windows NT could not achieve this
> rating because they supported only the FAT file system for floppy disks,
> which cannot track security information. Linux supports the EXT2 file
> system for floppy disks, and the kernel can be compiled to remove support
> for the less secure FAT, forcing users to use a file system that contains
> security information, hence mandatory protection. However, requirements for
> B3 and A1 require that the operating systems be stripped of all components
> not vital to system security
> (http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/epl/epl-by-class.html). While this is
> theoretically possible given the Open Source nature of Linux, stripping away
> all non-security components would change the nature of Linux, and the
> stripped down version of Linux would no longer be a general-purpose
> operating system. I believe Linux is capable of at least a B1 or perhaps a
> B2 rating.
>
> I believe companies of alternative operating systems should buckle down and
> have their products rated by the NCSC to better compete with Microsoft and
> make us feel proud (and more secure) in using alternative operating systems,
> like Linux. Please email companies of alternative operating systems, like
> Red Hat, and tell them to get their products rated by the National Computer
> Security Center.
>
> That's my two-cents worth. For more information on Commercial Product
> Evaluations, check out the website of the NCSC at
> http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/.
>
> TechnoJoe
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: My project.
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:56:06 +0200
Mail the vendor of that chipset Tamarack to ask for the specifications of the
chips.
You often get this documentation.
Raymond
d3v wrote:
> Hi all,
> I recently decided to get into writing Device drivers for Linux I found
> a very old 8-bit midi or game card that I'd like to write a driver for I
> think the learning experience would be great. The problem is it's a no name
> card the chip is a Tamarack (TD3088A3) anyone know anything about this chip
> or maybe a good place to start my search. If I'm posting off topic please
> accept my apologies.And sorry for the cross-post I'm lazy :)
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd wants remote sysyem to authenticate
Date: 8 Sep 2000 07:48:44 GMT
Greg Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 8 Sep 2000 00:54:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
:>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Martin) writes:
:>put
:>route del default
:>into /etc/rc.d/rc.local (at the end)
:>
: I just did this. I'm not sure I noticed a difference. What does it
: accomplish?
It allows ppp to establish a default route (via ppp0) on connect.
I don't know if there is a ppp directive that allows an existing
default route to be overridden and then reestablished on disconnect.
That would be nice. Shades of ifup/ifdown, perhaps ...
Peter
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