Linux-Misc Digest #751, Volume #21 Fri, 10 Sep 99 13:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: please help b4 my head bursts (Terry Porter)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (K. Bjarnason)
Re: Red Hat 6 and /etc/issue (Shane Blaufuss)
How do I delete mail from Netscape? (kev)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
crontab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How do you pronounce Linux? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Can't get FTP service to accept connections ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Apache ~ user directories? (Gina)
Re: SupraMAX 56k PCI Modem and Red Hat 5.2 ("HillBoy")
Re: Accessing DB2/400 from perl on Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Staroffice Aborts on startup.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Setting prompt in BASH ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Raising window follows mouse moving? (Jack Zhou)
Re: Stupid FTP Question (Pat Heuvel)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Gerald Willmann)
CDR software for linux ("Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)")
Re: CDR software for linux (Conway Yee)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: please help b4 my head bursts
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:06:59 +0800
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:00:20 -0500, Jeffrey S. Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sounds like when it was mounted, the system detected a fault in the file
>system and mounted it readonly. I've had that happen. You can run a fsck (if
>it's an ext2 disk) on it and see if all is ok.
>
>Jeff
>
>kev wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Hi,
>>
>>Linux thinks there is nothing on the floppy disk in my floppy drive,
>>when in actual fact there are some very important files on it which I
>>need, like, now, if not sooner.
>>
>>I realise this is some sort of cacheing problem. I've tried to 'touch' a
>>new file on there in the hope that this would force it to re-read the
>>disk, but instead I just got "touch: /mnt/floppy/tmp: Read-only file
>>system". According to the options for this drive (and yes, it is
>>mounted) it is _not_ read-only.
>>
>>What is going on? How do I read the disk? Why is it so unnecessarily
>>un-intuitive ?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Kev
>>
>
>
Sounds like it hasnt mounted the floppy, period.
Look in your log, see what the errors are.
Do you have read rights to the floppy ?
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: K. Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:17:10 -0700
[snips]
> A desktop PC also qualifies, provided that the user is not expected to
> (nay, is *forbidden* from) installing software on it. Part of the Great
> MS-Illusion is the idea that any random jerk should be able to install
> software on his or her machine, ***without knowing jack sh*t about
> computers.***
Nice little attitude there. "It's your machine. It's your software.
But don't you *dare* attempt to do it yourself. I haven't deemed you
worthy."
Migrating from zealotry into what approaches the mentality behind
certain states known as "fascist" doesn't help matters any, you know.
> Now, if you want to *race* a car, or change its performance for any
> other reason, you'd better know about cars.
Absolutely. John Q. Public user doesn't generally install his new
motherboard; he takes the machine in to have it done.
> of cars, isn't it? But people get real stupid when discussing the
> corresponding issues with regards to computers. General-purpose desktop
> computers are orders of magnitude more complex and sophisticated than
> cars, yet people think that *less* knowledge or intelligence should be
> necessary in the case of computers.
Why? *Because* they are orders of magnitude more complex. Huh?
Simple: we, as developers, can use that complexity to our advantage, to
create products which actually allow the end user to do the things he
needs to do *without* becoming a computer expert.
To my way of thinking, an application typically falls into two
categories: end-user, or administrative. Administrative tools aren't
aimed at the end user; if a web server requires command-line twiddling,
fine, so be it. If an end-user app such as a word processor requires
the end user to know anything more complicated than "run setup.exe to
install, then click on the icon to run", then it has a serious
shortcoming - which is a fault of the install developer, not of the
mechanics behind the machine.
The complexity is there for you and for I, as developers, to use. If we
choose not to use it, and demand that the end user become a system
expert in order to do nothing more complex than install and run our
application, it is we who look pathetic.
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From: Shane Blaufuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6 and /etc/issue
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:01:40 GMT
What I like to do is create a text file called "warning" and place it
in my /etc/rc.d/ directory. In my rc.local, right before
cp -f /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
i insert a line that says
cat /etc/rc.d/warning" >> /etc/issue
This places the contents of my text file "warning" before the login
prompt. The cp to issue.net makes it so users who telnet in see same
thing. I use the "warning" file to display a standard "Authorized
users only" message...They say that if you don't display warnings
against unauthorized use on your network, you can't prosecute
breakins...Anyway, better safe than sorry, right?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bryan Woody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aaron B. Hockley wrote:
> >
> > OK, I am trying to change the message that is diplayed at the login
> > prompt, which is the contents of /etc/issue
> >
> > I can change this file, log out, and when I go to log in the new
text
> > is displayed.
> >
> > However, when I reboot, I get the default message back again and it
> > has replaced my custom /etc/issue
> >
> > What's going on?
> >
>
> In Redhat 5.2, /etc/rc.d/rc.local changed /etc/issue on bootup. Maybe
> it's the same in Redhat 6.0, though I've never used it. Just
> delete/comment out the relevant lines.
>
> --
> Bryan Woody - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: How do I delete mail from Netscape?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:09:04 +0100
Hi,
I've been right through some of my mail folders in order to delete the
ones I don't need (Netscape kept crashing with large mail folders).
However, the size of the folders on disk has not changed. And, because
deleting something moves it to the Trash folder (then I deleted it from
there), my Trash mail file is now 68Mb, even though there is 'nothing'
in there when viewing the Trash folder in Messenger. How do I make
Netscape delete the messages it reckons are already deleted?
Thanks,
- Kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:08:07 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bilge:
|> Fred Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] blared:
|> >I hear you, but IMHO any prohibition on reverse engineering is horse
|> >manure. Reverse engineering is a natural right.
[Snip...]
Well, by some accounts, so is "free speech" but that's not to say the price
isn't on occasion quite high in exercising it. I doubt Sun or Oracle or the
whole commercial world cares one whit you've built a replica of their works
in your basement. They will be more than peeved, however, should you make a
commercial venture based on their intellectual property without permission,
and compensation for *their* expense and trouble. This really boils down to
an ownership (or relationship) agreement, explicit or not.
The problem with any "natural right" is not its existence; it's in what any
*exercise* of it implies about relationship and property issues. The beauty
of Open Source is it very nearly neutralizes the *property* portion of this
potential for disagreement. The really vital issue, it seems to me in these
social negotiations, is more fundamentally a question of relationship. That
is what seems to drive "capitalists" bonkers when they run across "marxist"
concepts like the GPL.
I am *not* trying to start YAF over the GPL. Just some honest consideration
of what values are advanced whenever "a natural right" is exercised.
[Snip...Re: exercising the "right" of reverse engineering...]
|> You havent read the digital millennium copyright act. It provides
|> for criminal penalties if you even interfere with the normal
|> functioning of the software as determined by the copyright holder.
|> Then things take a turn for the worse...
Along a similar vein, I suggest everybody interested in preserving any such
"natural" rights visit the UCITA InfoWorld site:
http://www.infoworld.com/UCITA
The irony of all this is how it *will* accelerate Open Source adoption.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: crontab
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:03:04 GMT
Another newbie question:
I want to set up a script using crontab which will be scheduled to run
once a day. My system (single user PC) will however not be switched on
every day. What happen when the system hasn't been running for more than
a 24 hour period? Are the script executions which weren't carried out
because the system wasn't on simply ignored or will the system try and
"catch up" on the backlog of non-executed scripts next time it's
switched on?
The script in question is non-critical; it will just extract a "quote of
the day" relevant for that day from a file.
Yours
Schablonski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:35:32 GMT
I pronounce it "Fred", but that's just me ;-)
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:38:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (otto) wrote:
>Is it Lie-nux or Lynn-ux? I've heard it both ways.
>
>Thanks.
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't get FTP service to accept connections
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:28:33 GMT
In article <7r9lbk$7lo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tom Baldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I try to ftp into my Linux server from a win98 client, I get a
> "connection failed" message. I am able to telnet to the server. Can
anybody
> help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Baldridge
>
>
Check your /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/hosts.* files and look at the man
pages. Should be matter of removing a single # symbol :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gina)
Subject: Apache ~ user directories?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:42:15 GMT
Hi,
What's the term for having user directory web pages. I'd like to enable this
on my httpd Apache server (under linux). Ie:
http://www.binarycity.net/~tgreen/
I have a small apache book. If I know what this was referred to, I can look it
up myself. I'm only part incompitent :) hehehe
Gina
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From: "HillBoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SupraMAX 56k PCI Modem and Red Hat 5.2
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:54:53 GMT
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but your SupraMax modem is a software
modem and will not work under Linux. If you'll look under Windows, it's
loading an HCF serial driver. There is no Linux equivalent for this driver.
To get a modem working, you'll need to either switch to an external modem or
get an ISA V.90 modem that has jumpers that enable you to set Com Port/Irq.
These modems are still around and are very cheap. I suggest looking for the
Hayes Accura modems which are being liquidated since Hayes is no more.
Beware PCI modems. Except for the newest Lucent CallerID modems, they are
not Linux friendly.
Marco Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi.
>
> I bought a SupraMax 56k PCI and it works fine under Windows 9x/NT.
> I tried to use it under Red Hat Linux 5.2 and I could not get the modem
> to work.
>
> Before I bought it, I checked
>
http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/hardware/intel/52/rh52-hardware-intel-14.
html#ss14.3
>
> and it says that the following (among others) are incompatible modems:
>
> - Plug-and-Play (PNP) modems (these may be set up via isapnptools and
> setserial).
> - Modems that require software drivers for compression, error
> correction, high-speed operation, etc.
> - PCI Memory Mapped Modems (these do not act like serial ports)
> - Internal SupraExpress 56k
> - Internal SupraSonic 56k
> - ...
>
> But is says nothing about SupraMax. So I assumed it would work.
>
> I have read now "Modems: Traditional, Controller-less and Soft" white
> paper
>
http://www.supra.com/products/white-papers/communications/c-less_paper.html
>
> and now I am afraid that is too late.
>
> Is it possible to get the modem working in a different OS other that
> Windows 9x/NT ?
> And is it possible to get the modem working under Linux ?
>
> Thank you
> Marco Costa
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Accessing DB2/400 from perl on Linux
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:50:58 GMT
In article <7qmt5b$2rj1@SGI3651ef0>,
"Juan Riera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
> Does anybody knows if is there any way of
accessing DB2/400 data on an
> AS/400 server from a perl CGI script on a linux
box? I have worked with
> DBI/DBD for MySQL.
>
> TIA
> Juan
>
>
Greetings,
I'm trying to figure out how to do the same
thing, only maybe with postgresql...hasn't been
much fun so far. If I come across something,
I'll thow up a signal.
I downloaded the port off the CPAN page, but it's
extension is .gz and neither winzip(win-32) nor
gunzip(linux) can open the damn thing. Another
funny thing was the fact that the CPAN page
showed the file as being 6.7MB, but the download
was closer to 17MB.
IBM does has a few reference to PERL near the 400
pages off their site.
I tried to e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the mail got
bounced back.
Shawn Pursley([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Network Administrator
Service Transport
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Staroffice Aborts on startup..
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:38:35 GMT
I reciently installed Star office 5.1 on my Red Hat Linux 6.0 system and
it worked just fine. Then for some reason it just stopped running. If I
attempt to run the application soffice from the command line it just
says Abort and exits after putting up the Star office banner. Any Ideas
what I have screwed up?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Setting prompt in BASH
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:04:09 GMT
I would like to set my prompt in the BASH shell to have reverse video
similar to using %S and %s in the prompt variable for tcsh. Right now
my PS1 variable is set to \h:\w\$. Is there any way I can get my pompt
to be shown in revers video?
Thanks,
Jim Johnke
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From: Jack Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Raising window follows mouse moving?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:56:50 +0100
Hello, Dear Sir/Madam,
I am running RedHat 6.0 (Gnome, Enlightenment). I was wondering
how to make a window raise following the mouse moving. Thank
you in advance.
Jack
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From: Pat Heuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid FTP Question
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:15:49 +1000
Gday there...
Orpheus wrote:
>
> I went to the Redhat support site with the Netscape browser, and when
> I found the file I wanted to download, netscape simply read it as a
> text file rather than implement FTP download.
>
Right-click the file you want to download, then take the "Save Link As"
option. That should do the trick!
'snot a secret, tho'.
Hope this helps,
Pat
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:26:26 -0700
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, K. Bjarnason wrote:
> Oh, marvellous. Wasn't Linux's strong point supposed to be
> standardization?
no, choice and choice is marvellous indeed
So now we have umpteen different distros, with
> different package managers, with different GUIs, with different...
users?
> Windows may not be perfect, but at least the user doesn't have to worry
> that just because he bought his copy from vendor A instead of vendor B,
> even the way he installs applications is totally different. :)
> Let me know when *Linux* has *a* standard GUI, with *a* standard - and
> GUI-based - method of installing applications, and we'll compare it to
> Windows in terms of ease-of-use for the end user.
if you want to wait til linux becomes like M$windows before comparing then
I'm afraid you'll never enjoy this pleasure.
> Oh, and let's not forget other little issues that go along with that,
> such as standardized GUI-driven uninstall mechanisms, so the user knows
> exactly where he has to look to remove an application if he wants -
> something equivalent to add/remove programs.
one of the many things most linux distros do better than M$windows is
package management. But then again, you would need to try linux which
appearantly you are unwilling to do. What are you doing in this ng
anyway, if I may a ask.
Gerald
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From: "Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDR software for linux
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:09:28 -0400
Does anyone know of any software for linux that allows me to write audio
CDR's, which is user-friendly? So far I've only found programs where
I have to enter in a long, complicated command with alot of switches.
Isn't there anything for X-Windows that has a nice user interface?
Thanks!
George Couch
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From: Conway Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDR software for linux
Date: 10 Sep 1999 12:57:06 -0400
"Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone know of any software for linux that allows me to write audio
> CDR's, which is user-friendly? So far I've only found programs where
> I have to enter in a long, complicated command with alot of switches.
> Isn't there anything for X-Windows that has a nice user interface?
It occurs to me that having a command line inteface for a program is a
feature not a bug. I find it more flexible and allows me more
control. Further, for those who are interested, a GUI wrapper can be
written to execute a command line program to get the best of both
worlds. Note the flexibility of gdb with xgdb front end. Try THAT
with a program with a built in "nice user interface!"
Conway Yee
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