Linux-Misc Digest #850, Volume #21 Fri, 17 Sep 99 13:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: NetWare to Linux? (Karl)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Erich Meier)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Linux support for FAT filesystems with long file names? (Mircea)
Re: How TO Extract SPEC File Out From A Given RPM Source? (Bob Tennent)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Joerg Schilling)
Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt. ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root? (john)
converting MacBinary ?? (Andreas Ortmann Jaunsen)
Help! Advansys 2930u SCSI module parameters (sean)
Re: Graphical world clock (Timothy)
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? (John Culleton)
IBM PS/2 with linux, how? (Herve Fache)
PPP - server assigned DNS address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
building ftape documentation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mandrake6.1 - which kdebase should I upgrade? ("dkmallick")
Re: Local printing using ansi emulation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Get a jump on your competitors with remote upgrading!! ("Nick Berliner")
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From: Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NetWare to Linux?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 13:42:25 GMT
"DHobbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Karl wrote:
>>
>> The powers that be where I work are considering dumping NetWare
in
>> favor of Linux. Has anyone out there been through this type of
>> conversion?
>>
>> Good idea, bad idea? Hints, tips, stories and any other
thoughts
>> would be appreciated.
>
>What are you going to do with it? Mail, web, router, DNS,
firewall,
>directory server, even desktops it works wonderfully.
>
>I got rid of a Cisco and dropped a 486 with Linux and four NICs
as the
>router for three subnets, it got those WIN machines off on their
own
>subnet and they can chat all they want and they don't interfere
with the
>rest of the machines.
Right now, NetWare is primarily file, print and security services.
We were considering a jump from 3.x to 5, but the cost is
prohibitive for what Novell is actually offering us.
I have pretty much settled on Red Hat as my recommendation as a
platform (if we go forward) because of the availability of support
and training. Recent experiences trying to iron out printing bugs
with Slackware showed me that we (spelled I) am not ready to
support a production environment without some sort of tech support
backup.
Has anyone seen tools that aid in migrating users and files from
one platform to another?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erich Meier)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 16:33:29 +0200
Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Grant Edwards <grant@nowhere.> wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William Firkser wrote:
>>>David,
>>>
>>>You might want to look into more ram. Linux needs at least 32mb to run
>>>at a reasonable speed
>> Nonsense. It depends entirely on what you run.
>> My main machine at work is a P166 24M Linux machine. It's
>> quite comfortable though I wouldn't try to run Star Office,
>> Applix, Gnome, or KDE. But, it works great with fvwm2 as a
>> window manager.
>That's my point exactly. Try fvwm. You might like it. Or even twm or mwm. In
>terms of appearance, it is the same thing minus the virtual part. twm might
>be even simpler.
Use 9wm.
Erich
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:25:52 -0400
Peter Samuelson wrote in message <7rsnql$avi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[Joel Hanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>> --------------7DBC1BD9A282A9A835167EC4
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Please. Don't. Use. MIME. On. Usenet.
>
> [bilge, on reverse engineering]
>> > How many examples of such practicess in long existing areas of law
>> > enforcement would be required to convince you how little their
>> > actions to prosecute you can negatively affect their prosecution of
>> > you?
>> Why is it so that Bill Gates can get away with such an offense
>> without punishment... such as did apple???
>
>What offense? Gates has done many things in his career but I seriously
>doubt he has reverse engineered anything. Why reverse engineer when
>you can buy?
Bill Gates is not known for parting with money when he can get
what he wants by other means. Consider his negotiation with
Stacker, which fell apart when he announced he would use his
own scheme for drive compression.
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux support for FAT filesystems with long file names?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:50:11 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'm doing some web/java development on my PC on which I have both RedHat
> 6.0 Linux and Windows NT (and Windows'95) installed. I would like to be
> able to share files between both Windows NT and Linux so that I can do
> most of my programming under Linux but still use some of the authoring
> tools I have for Windows NT.
>
> I have a FAT partition into which I can put shared files and which is
> mounted by both Windows NT and Linux. When using Win95 or
> Windows NT I can use long file names. However, from Linux I can only get
> the short MSDOS version of the file names not the long versions that I
> can use with Windows NT.
>
Mount the partitions as vfat (mount -t vfat...). This assumes, of
course, your kernel has support for vfat already (most distributions do,
out-of-the-box).
MST
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: How TO Extract SPEC File Out From A Given RPM Source?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 13:41:24 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:10:56 -0400, Young4ert wrote:
>
>
>Given an RPM source file, can anyone please tell me how to extract the
>SPEC file out from the RPM source?
>
Do rpm -i package.src.rpm
The spec file is installed into /usr/src/redhat/SPECS.
Bob T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 13:51:45 GMT
In article <7rqska$e6c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
>I cannot understand why Fran�ois Pinard listen to me when Joerg Schilling
>is really more important than me on computer sciences. I do not work with
>the Technical University of Berlin or Fokus (a great company on ATM
>research). I am sorry to read that Mr. Pinard ignored you when you
>sent this information _before me_.
Maybe he had different targets for GNUtar changes.
Anyway, the maintainer changed and Paul Eggert seems to like to talk to me ;-)
We aggreed on a way to encode large data types (e.g. uid's > 2097151).
So it is not needed to think about this anymore.
>Now, Unix programs can use some library functions like getopt() that make
>easy to develop syntax-compatible utilities. I think it is useful, mainly
>for end-users, and I decided to use it a lot of time ago.
For this reason, I decided to use my getargs() before getopt() became
available. As getopt() does not allow me to use it for all things I do
with getargs() I stay with getargs. It _is_ compatible with the way
UNIX commands work.
>About star I want to say it is a _great_ tar implementation. It works
>really fine and we have it installed on our workstations for a lot of
>time. But it have a problem... a really hard syntax and we prefer to
>use tar (on Solaris or HP-UX) or GNU tar (on our Linux boxes). We have
>star to untar some tar archives that cannot be untarred with other tar
>releases but our end-users do not want to learn a new tar syntax and I
>can understand it.
I don't understand you.
Star allows exactly the same syntax that was used by the historic
tar implementation. If you really find a case where star does not
allow the syntax that has been described in the tar manuals before 1984,
send me a bug report.
Of course, star implements much more. And star does this in it's own
syntax which differs from the historical tar syntax like the GNUTtar
syntax is different from the historical tar syntax. If you like me to
adopt to the GNUtar notation in all cases, you will be out of luck.
Star is older than GNUtar and I see no reason to go to the GNUtar notation
for this reason.
>Finally, I think star is a great program, but we think that users
>will not migrate to it quickly because its syntax is really different.
>I think that star has a lot of advantages over GNU tar, but syntax is
>not one of this.
As I said before, star only differs if you like to use the extended featues.
Note that the POSIX people like you to use pax unstead of tar in future.
>From my impression, the pax command line syntax is even worse than the
tar or star comand line syntax.
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:39:20 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In addition to the other responses, know that you can switch to consoles
1-6 from X with Ctrl-Alt-F# where # is the console number and back to X,
which normally takes over consoles 7 in RH, with Ctrl-Alt-F7.
Art S. Kagel
Raterus wrote:
>
> I'm running redhat 6.0 and noticed they inconveniently left out how to
> shutdown X and go back to the command prompt. How do you do this and if
> possible how can I add this to an option on my logoff window?
>
> Rat
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From: john <john*nospam*@jjgb.com>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:54:56 -0600
Anton wrote:
> john <john*nospam*@jjgb.com> hurled onto comp.os.linux.security:
>
> >Close, but no cigar <G>
> >
> >Here is my /etc/fstab
> >
> >/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto,user 0 0
> >/dev/fd0 /mnt/dosfloppy vfat noauto,user 0 0
> ^^^^
>
> Why not simply use 'auto' as the file system type? That way you'll need
> only a single mount point, and the kernel will figure out what type it
> is.
>
> Anton
>
> --
>
> Silence is wise if we are foolish, but foolish if we are wise.
Mostly because, from what I have read, sometimes (what can I say) the kernel
makes a mistake. Why chance fate? <G> (kernel 2.0.36)
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From: Andreas Ortmann Jaunsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: converting MacBinary ??
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:16:29 +0200
I made a blunder and ftp'd (using Anarchie) some Photoshop
files without making sure they were transferred in RAW format.
Is it possible to convert the MacBinary files to "normal" binaries on my
Linux/win98 PC ? Infact, I'd be glad just to know what
is the difference between these binary forms ? byte swapped ?
Andreas
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From: sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help! Advansys 2930u SCSI module parameters
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:46:30 +0100
hi im trying to get suse 6.2 onto a IBM SCSI hard disc. I need to load
the advansys module but do not know what parameters to set. I've tried
modprobe at1700 io=0x1000 irq=10 and insmode at1700 io=0x1000 irq=10
but this drops me into a black screen with the word setup- in the corner
and the computer hangs any advice or information appreciated.
--
sean
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Subject: Re: Graphical world clock
From: Timothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:31:23 +1000
>I think you mean `sunclock'. You can find it on ftp.x.org in the
>contrib section and without doubt in many Linux distributions.
Or he may have been talking about 'xearth' which came with my RH6. It ma=
kes a
great background....=20
Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:13:51 GMT
vi is the html editor that suits me best ;-)
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From: John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:34:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Indica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John Hasler wrote:
>
> > WYSIWYG HTML editor is an oxymoron.
>
> Hardly, I suggest you go out and learn some more about high end
editors
> and site management tools before you make such a statement.
>
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
>
We are talking html, right? It does not control format precisely. What
you get will vary from browser to browser and even from site to site.
Unless the editor has a different mode for every known browser from
Mosaic on forward and allows you to see all the possible variations of
window size etc. there will never be a true WYSIWYG html editor.
Now I know there are folks who think the only OS is Win something or
other and the only suitable browsers are IE and Netscape 5.0. But when
you create a web page you are writing for an audience and the audience
uses a variety of browsers and OS. The issue is not WYSIWYG but WYSIWTG
what you see is what they get) and for the reasons cited this must
always be an approximation at best.
John Culleton
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From: Herve Fache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM PS/2 with linux, how?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:51:49 GMT
Is it now possible to install linux on an IBM PS/2 386 with MCA/SCSI
buses? My RedHat 5.1 crashes when the hardware is to be detected...
TIA
Herv�.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: PPP - server assigned DNS address
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:39:03 GMT
How can I specify 'server assigned DNS address' (dynamic DNS?). Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: building ftape documentation
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:54:14 GMT
I am trying to build the most recent ftape-doc (ftape-doc-1999_03_17).
When I type ./config, it checks for programs/dirs and then freezes when
checking for sgmlcheck. Here is the log:
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
configuring in ftape-manual
running /bin/sh ./configure --cache-file=.././config.cache --srcdir=.
loading cache .././config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether #! works in shell scripts... yes
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for texi2dvi... texi2dvi
checking for dvips... no
checking for texindex... texindex
checking for latex... no
checking for sgml2txt... no
checking for sgml2rtf... no
checking for sgml2lyx... no
checking for sgml2latex... no
checking for sgml2html... no
Install Postscript manual: no
Info manual destination: /usr/local/info
Html manual destination: /usr/local/share/texi2www/ftape-4
Sgml derived manuals: /usr/local/share/ftape-manual/sgml
Sgml derived HTML and PS: no
Info to HTML gateway: http://localhost/cgi-bin/info2html
Ftape-HOWTO references: /usr/local/share/ftape-howto/html/ftape-
howto.html
Ftape-FAQ references: /usr/local/share/ftape-faq/html/ftape-
faq.html
updating cache .././config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating texi/Makefile
creating etc/Makefile
sed: can't read ./etc/Makefile.in: No such file or directory
creating html/Makefile
creating sgml/Makefile
creating etc/texi2www
creating etc/texi2sgml
creating etc/latex
making auto-generated scripts in etc/ executable
configuring in ftape-howto
running /bin/sh ./configure --cache-file=.././config.cache --srcdir=.
loading cache .././config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether #! works in shell scripts... (cached) yes
checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes
checking for latex... no
checking for sgml2txt... no
checking for sgml2rtf... no
checking for sgml2lyx... no
checking for sgml2latex... no
checking for sgml2html... no
sgmltools are missing, will not reformat the documentation
Install Postscript manual: no
Html manual destination: ${prefix}/share/ftape-howto/html
Remaining manuals: ${prefix}/share/ftape-howto
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating etc/Makefile
creating etc/latex
making auto-generated scripts executable
configuring in sgml-tools
running /bin/sh ./configure --cache-file=../.././config.cache --
srcdir=.
loading cache ../.././config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for perl... (cached) /usr/bin/perl
checking for groff... /usr/bin/groff
checking for nsgmls... no
checking for sgmlsasp... no
checking for sgmlcheck... no
Any help would be appreciated!!!! Thanks.
JW
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From: "dkmallick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Mandrake6.1 - which kdebase should I upgrade?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:07:31 -0500
I am a newbie and I am confused about something.
I am currently running Linux Mandrake 6.0. Looks like LM 6.1 is out and I
want to upgrade by installing the new RPMs. When I went to download the new
kde rpms, I see several different versions of kdebase, kdelibs etc. For
example, there is kdebase 1.1.2-7mdk, kdebase 1.1.2pre1-2mdk and
kdebase1.1.2pre1-5 mdk.
Which one should I upgrade to and why?
What does this 'pre' thing mean?
Any pointers will greatly appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Local printing using ansi emulation
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:10:23 GMT
How can I sent and what is the escape sequence for
use the transparent print resource on a telnet
session? You know any FAQ?
In article
<4Pzu3.924$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Americo Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm newbie to Linux (not to unix). I use the
same version of SCO Unix
> > (5.0.5) on our server. Several windows98
machines on our network access the
> > SCO server to run a character application.
We're using the great Netterm
> > from Neosoft, but it doesn't have a linux
version! So I have the same
> > problem that you - can't print to a local
printer when using Linux and a
> > emulator like xvt, xterm, konsole, etc. The
emulator ignores the
> > "transparent print" escape sequence.
>
> XFree86 xterm supports the "transparent print"
escape sequence(s).
>
> The XFree86 3.3.3.1 xterm supports ANSI color
and VT220 emulation
> There's an faq at
>
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html
> ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm
>
> --
> Thomas E. Dickey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
>
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From: "Nick Berliner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Get a jump on your competitors with remote upgrading!!
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:19:21 -0700
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