Linux-Misc Digest #850, Volume #24 Sun, 18 Jun 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
FIPS question (DSpaar)
Booting Corel on DuOS ("Ross M. Greenberg")
Re: Small Linux (Robie Basak)
Re: Linux using up 256 Mb??? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Blocking news servers? (Robie Basak)
Re: only 64 of 128MB RAM detected (Bit Twister)
Re: Downloading Mandrake 7.1 (Asrhaf)
Re: Dammit... (Valentin Guillen)
Re: Linux floating point/IEEE Std.745-1985 compliancy (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Helix Gnome and C library ("Kevin Vandersloot")
Re: Video modes listed by vga=ask (David Efflandt)
Re: xf86config - quantex monitor and intel video card (H Dziardziel)
Re: Modem Config. Problem using Kppp ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Netscape 4.63 can't access Newsgroups ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DSpaar)
Subject: FIPS question
Date: 18 Jun 2000 14:58:09 GMT
Sorry to be a bother, I'm having a problem trying to run FIPS to repartition my
hard drive. When I reboot with the DOS system disk I created as described in
the FIPS documentation, and type "fips" at the A:> prompt, I get a message
"Program too big to fit in memory". I've tried adjusting the memory available
to DOS (I have 80 MB RAM) but the message persists.
If anyone has had this problem and knows how to resolve it, I'd be very
thankful. I'd like to start getting familiar with Linux, but it's going to be
difficult if I can't get it installed. Oh, I'm attempting this repartitioning
and installation on a 166 MHz Pentium II MMX machine, if that is helpful and
I'm running Win98 at the moment.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Dave Spaar
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From: "Ross M. Greenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Booting Corel on DuOS
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:54:40 -0400
I recently got a new DuOS box. Good little box, but the network card only
had an RJ-45 connection, and our network is BNC the whole way. So I pulled
the RJ-45 card and stuck in a vanilla Realtek 8019 ISA card. Booted to
Windows and all was working well. Booted to Linux when I discovered the
kernel had no idea what Realtek was. Followed the directions at
http://www.smc.com/eznet/drivers/1660/1660linux.txt and there were no probs
until
reboot. When you boot a duOS box, you get a menu with
Linux/Windows/Debug/Expert modes. Booting to Linux gives me an instant
dead-box now, with a pretty multi-colored display. I can however go to
Expert and boot from my old backup kernel (I'm not entirely stupid!)
However, even when I replaced the new buggy kernel with the functioning one,
the boot menu refuses to boot to it.
Where does the boot menu go to find the kernel it boots to? Yes, I ran
LILO, but it still seems to want to boot onto the buggy kernel.
Help!
And has anybody gotten an 8019 ISA card to work?
Thanks!
Ross
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Small Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Jun 2000 15:01:22 GMT
On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:38:13 +1200, dru said:
>Is there a Linux installation that will run on a 286? Also, I have Small
No. Linux uses protected mode, which doesn't exist prior to the 386.
>linux http://smalllinux.netpedia.net/ newbie question is, can I use it
>to boot and then run a linux application previously intalled on hd?
Mount the root partition on the hard disk to, say, /mnt. Then type:
chroot /mnt /usr/bin/whatever
and it runs (very useful for chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo :-)
Robie.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux using up 256 Mb???
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:02:55 GMT
Adam Schuetze wrote:
>
> I don't use gnome terminals, or gnome at all, so I cannot
> compare. Gnome (and kde) and all it's associated gui stuff are
> cpu/ram pigs, and of no use to me. I want my linux to look/feel
> like unix, not windows.
>
> Even the gnome terminals are a waste of ram. Try running an
> "rxvt" terminal (which are even more light-weight than xterms),
> and compare the ram/cpu usage between rxvt and a gnome terminal.
>
> On an individual basis, gnome terminals don't use all THAT much
> ram, but when you have 10 of them running...
>
It looks like a quiescent rxvt uses about 1.3 Mb, and a gnome-terminal
about 3.9 Mb.
Sounds like no difference to me if you only use a few terminals at
once.
I telnetted into my box running fvdm2/Afterstep, and got 6.9% CPU usage.
Then after running Gnome/Enlightenment and got 3.0% CPU usage.
These are quiescent measurements; lots of graphics might show a
different
tale. The simpler GUI felt a bit faster, but I like the prettiness of
Gnome.
Just my input.
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Blocking news servers?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Jun 2000 15:04:59 GMT
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:49:46 -0400, Ken Yasuda said:
>
>Actually, the reason I ask is because I'm not able to access some news sites
>even though I can access others with no problems. The departmental machine is
>a Linux box and I'm wanting to familiarize myself with things before I approach
>the sysadmin with my access problem.
>
> The exact problem: I can ping news.vmware.com but I can't actually
>access for reading with xrn, krn, or Netscape's news program. I always get the
>message
> "Failed to connect to NNTP server"
>
> I don't have this problem with the local uni sites, so my news access is
>definitely site-specific.
>
>
> Smells to me like the sysadmin has the news.vmware.com site either
>blocked out or not explicitly allowed. I want to check my facts first. Things
>generally go more smoothly when I can talk specifics...
Try:
telnet news.vmware.com 119
If it connects, then there's a problem with your news client, or
you're being denied access by vmware. Otherwise, there's a problem on
your side.
Robie.
>
>
> Any opinions?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>|> Try using ipchains to block out entire IPs. Probably something like:
>|>
>|> ipchains -A input -s <newsgroupservername/ipaddress> -j DENY
>|>
>|> That probably isn't the exact context you would use (depending on your
>|> existing firewall), but I'm sure that ipchains can block specific
>|> hosts. Unless you're talking about specific newsgroups, which I don't
>|> think you can do.
>|>
>|> Ken Yasuda wrote:
>|>
>|> > Hello fellow users,
>|> >
>|> > Is it possible to block access to certain news servers?
>|> >
>|> > Any suggestions on how to do it?
>|> >
>|> > Thanks,
>|> >
>|> > Ken
>|> >
>|> > Remove "nospam" if emailing.
>|>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Crossposted-To:
nl.comp.os.linux.overig,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: only 64 of 128MB RAM detected
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:09:05 GMT
As root
edit /etc/lilo.conf and add
append="mem=128M"
somewhere near the top, then install the change, and reboot with
lilo
shutdown -r now
On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:53:58 +0200, Floris Hammer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I've got 128 mb RAM, but linux detects only 64.
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If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: Asrhaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading Mandrake 7.1
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:30:05 GMT
Thanks for you reply
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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Dammit...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:45:53 -0600
Michael,
I thought that anyone in Provo who said Damnit would be banished to
instant hellfire!
Anyway, my thought is that if it's worth an hour of your work to try and
get GNU/Linux installed, then it's worth obtaining a CD disk to install
from. Here in Albuquerque, we have many stores at which you can buy
ENTIRE multiCD distributions of Linux for under 25.00 bucks. Currently,
TurboLinux boxed set is 28.00 with a twenty dollar rebate. I use SuSE,
and it's currently 28.00 for the 6 cd boxed set and comes with what is
probably the best manual included in ANY distro on the market.
My personal feeling is that only a seasoned linux veteran has the
expertise to sucessfully use hard drive images, network installations,
etc. Most of us need the documentation, and the ability to do rapid,
repeat corrective installations while we work through the installation
and early implementation process. While it is correct, of course, that
it is possible to perform these non-standard, complicated installations
of linux, what they really do is scare most people off, lead to
disappointment and frustration, give linux a bad rap, etc.
Much better to order a nice fully documented distro, or even to purchase
a dollar fifty cheapbytes distro CD. People are having so many problems
downloading images and attemtping the burning of their own CDs. I can't
tell you how many posts I've responded to from people who have
nightmares with these "burnt CDs", when for the dollar fifty, they could
obtain proven CDs.
I think that people should view Linux as being "gratis" but not free!
It may not cost lots of money, but it's going to cost plenty of time, at
least initially, for the steep learning curve, and the reinstalls, the
frustration, etc.
So, the frustration in your post is manifest. Invest thirty bucks in
your career and future, go out to Fred Meyer or CompUSA or
OfficeMax,etc, and obtain a decent distro. After having used Red Hat and
Slackware for several years, I swear by SuSE.
Good Luck with your issue. Just remember, with the right distro, Linux
is much easier to install than win. And look around at your newsstand.
Last month I got a magazine with 2 distro cds, one for StormLinux and
the other for Mandrake 7.0 The mandrake installed with a few issues,
but very smoothly, and just the right order for newbies.
Valentin Guillen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Linux floating point/IEEE Std.745-1985 compliancy
Date: 18 Jun 2000 11:48:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8iie6o$b1g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Niek Bergboer wrote:
> I am
> a bit worried by rumours that Linux does not
> completely conform to the IEEE-745 Standard for Binary Floating Point
> Arithmetic (IEEE Std. 745-1985).
Have you read http://www.suburbia.net/~billm/floating-point/index.html?
(It is possible that it won't answer all of your questions, though.)
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Paul Kimoto
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From: "Kevin Vandersloot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Helix Gnome and C library
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:10:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All I recently have tried to install helix
> Gnome. I have the the current GDK installed, but
> when I go to install Helix I get the error GDK
> Locale not supported by C library. I use Suse
> 6.3 and I have installed everything I can find
> that relates to C and Still no go. Does anyone
> know where to find the most current libraries,
> and which one I may be missing. I seem to run
> into this problem everytime I down load a
> program.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Patrick
I had this same error. It's not a problem in your C libraries
it's a problem with you LANG environment variable not
being set. So open a terminal and type 'echo $LANG' and
it will say 'null'. The soultion is when you log in manually
choose the English language ( or whatever language you use ).
I am assuming that you use the login manager (gdm) that came
with Helix. If you don't use gdm then somewhere you want to
set the LANG variable to C.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Video modes listed by vga=ask
Date: 18 Jun 2000 16:17:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, Jason Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>With the vga=ask option set in lilo.conf I get the following list:
>
>Video Adapter: VGA
>Mode COLSxROWS
>0 0F00 80x25
>1 0F01 80x50
>2 0F02 80x43
>etc.
>
>Can anyone tell me what the 2nd column refers to?
>
>I presume it has something to do with BIOS interupt function used to
>switch the adapter to that text mode, but I can't find any such
>function that corresponds with the numbers listed.
>
>Entering `scan' results in extra modes listed in the range 01xx.
>
>Is this mode auto-detection carried out by LILO or by the kernel?
It is a video mode id not an interrupt. It is explained in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation.svga.txt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Dziardziel)
Subject: Re: xf86config - quantex monitor and intel video card
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:36:06 GMT
On 16 Jun 2000 14:46:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted) wrote:
>First off I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my last question
>about partitioning with fips. The answers were very helpful.
>
>I have successfully installed Debian and am now attempting to run
>xf86config from root to set-up X. I have run into several problems
>identifying the hardware in my Quantex P3 which I purchased about 5 months
>ago.
>
>1) This will probably show my newbie-ness, but in the documentation that
>comes with my Quantex XP190A monitor it does not list horizontal or
>vertical sync, although there are values for 'horizont and vertical scan
>frequencies'. Is this the same as sync? The number listed are 30KHz to 96
>KHz for horizontal scan and 50Hz to 180Hz for vertical scan. These numbers
>are quite a bit wider in range than the settings listed in xf86config. Can
>anyone with some knowledge or a similar monitor tell me if there is a good
>preset to use or should I manually enter the above values? Given the stern
>warnings that settings an overzealous sync rate can permanently damage my
>monitor, I'm reluctant to try anything without some advice.\
>
>2) Looking under control panel in Win98 my video card says Quantex XP190
>on Intel810 Chipset Graphics Driver PV2.1. I assume that Intel810 is the
>model of the card, however I do not see this listed on the list of video
>cards provided with xf86config. Can anyone suggest how I should proceed?
>Will I be unable to run X because my hardware is not currently supported?
>Anyone with the same card comment?
>
>All responses will be greatly appreciated, as I am (clearly) quite new to
>it all.
>
>Thanks,
>Ted Schuman
1) yes scan in this case is the same as sync. The numbers you have
listed can be set into XFConfig with one of the configuration programs
or manually by you. These are quite a bit better than svga so you can
try that setting first. As long as you are within the (your) monitor
documented specs you're OK.
2)the i810 chipset is well supported by XFree86 and Intel, Try their
site for info but be ready for a lot of work.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Config. Problem using Kppp
Date: 18 Jun 2000 12:46:26 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Mink
: I'm having the same problem. I know mine is not
: a winmodem. I have an old USRobotics External
: 14.4 kbs modem. I did the same thing you did,
: set it to ttyS0. It keeps saying Modem is Locked.
: So how do I unlock it? That's the question.
Remove the lock file.
Tell us what you are doing. None of this "I did the same thing you
did". Commands, plus results and error messages.
What do you mean by "set it to", example?
You should find a complete guide to whatever you are trying to achieve
in the Serial-HOWTO.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.63 can't access Newsgroups
Date: 18 Jun 2000 12:25:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.help Dr. Guillermo A. Morales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: OK, The problem was I had not setup the pop parameters. Once I did that the
: message went away. However, the problem remains: Netscape can't access
: newsgroups.
: It keeps saying that it can't find the newsgroup servers!!! I've tried many
Better tell it what they are then, eh what? And make sure you have dns
working while you're at it ....
BTW, test using a normal news client, not netscape. Something like tin
slrn or mutt. Even knews. Telnet to their news port to check it answers
you.
Peter
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