Linux-Misc Digest #802, Volume #23               Fri, 10 Mar 00 03:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: test ("Ted")
  Re: crazy fdisk output ("Charles Sullivan")
  Choose network profile at startup? (cgomulka)
  Re: How to repair disk error (D Nguyen)
  Re: mandrake 7.0 or openlinux2.3? (Rod Smith)
  Re: my login prompt ran away... (Josh Nichols)
  Mp3 Player for Car ("pentalpha | newtotheinternet.com")
  Re: Telnet problems with Linux console (Paul Kimoto)
  ppp problem (Sergey Grishin)
  Re: Salary? (Martin Redmond)
  Problem with tabs in rxvt (John Broadhead)
  Re: Salary? (Vilmos Soti)
  a good freeware mpeg video player for Linux? (Minko Markov)
  Linux Laptop setup... (raman_narayan)
  Re: Makefile include -- no cd (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: What is a Zombie process? (Lew Pitcher)
  win2000 + linux client (Robin Becker)
  Re: Building and modifying libraries ("Rainer Temme")

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From: "Ted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: test
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:48:11 -0500

you pass.

carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Y7ex4.3350$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> test
>
>



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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crazy fdisk output
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:41:00 -0500

Nico Beuermann wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Charles Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> The difference in reported HD geometry is no doubt due to
>> your bios having LBA enabled.  This is generally a good thing
>> and you should go with it.
>>
>> (With LBA, the manufacturer's HD geometry is remapped so there
>> are a greater number of logical heads and fewer logical cylinders -
>> the objective being to keep as much of the HD space as possible
>> below the 1024 cylinder boundary.)
>>
>> The version of fdisk you are using is normally able to comprehend
>> this.  Did you in any way attempt to force the system to use
>> the manufacturer's HD geometry - this might confuse the issue.
>>
>The BIOS settings were changed not always consistently  with the plugged
HD.
>Could this be the reason?
>
>> I'm unfamiliar with the Suse distributions, but assume your kernel
>> version is 2.2.0 or highter.
>You�re right. Kernel 2.2.10, glibc2 and so on.


I'm not sure what you are saying - did you change something in
your bios HD setup?  (My bios automatically recognized my HD
by manufacturer and model - I never attempted to change anything.)


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From: cgomulka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Choose network profile at startup?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:43:27 GMT

 I'm running Redhat 6.2 on my laptop which I switch between two
networks home and work. I am familiar with using LinuxConf to switch the
network configuration profiles after I boot and log in. Does anyone
know how I can set up Linux so that it asks me which network profile I
would like to use during the boot process or before I log in? Thanks. -
Craig

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Craig Gomulka
http://www.gomulka.com


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From: D Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to repair disk error
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:04:44 GMT



Vilmos Soti wrote:

> zung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error
> > }
> > hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=433520,
> > sector=135089, end_request: I/O error, dev 03:06 (hda), sector 135089
> > Error reading block 16886 (Attempt to read block from filesystem
>
> When I had these messages, my disk was dying. You might better backup
> your vital data and move it to another disk.
>
> Vilmos

It certainly is the bad news but thanks for making me prepared. I do
not have much data but time wasting is for sure. I will attempt to
reformat the disk and reinstall linux. It appears to me there is only
a few bad sectors and it is a waste if it cannot be fixed or worked
around.



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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: mandrake 7.0 or openlinux2.3?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:16:54 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i think i posted my message on a wrong newsgroup last time, sorry.
> anyway, here's my question
> 
> im a newbie to linux and never use it b4, should i choose mandrake 7.0 or 
> openlinux2.3 to start with? my situation is that:

First, you might want to check my comments on Linux distributions at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/. I've recently installed Mandrake 7.0
on one system, but haven't gotten around to updating the web page yet (I
hope to do so in the next few days, though).

> 1. i need a easy installation interface so i won't mess up win98

Both Mandrake and Caldera have pretty easy installations. Mandrake 7.0 is
now GUI-based (previous versions weren't). It also now includes dynamic
partition resizing as part of the base package, but I don't know how well
it works. Caldera doesn't include this in the downloadable version, but
the retail versions include a limited version of Partition Magic.

> 2. a distribution with a well detailed documentation (so that i can 
> minimize the spending on linux books)

All self-respecting mainstream Linux distributions come with scads of
documentation, but it can be difficult to find, and some of it's difficult
for the uninitiated to understand. I strongly recommend that a Linux
newcomer invest in a book or two -- either something distribution-specific
(which probably comes with a CD of the distribution in question) or a
general-purpose book like _Running Linux_. I've got specific suggestions
for many distributions on my distributions web page, and also on
http://www.rodsbooks.com/books/books-linintro.html.

> 3. coz im using a winmodem, i need a way download linux software with 
> win98 and install it in linux
> so which distribution is better?

All Linux distributions can mount FAT (Win98) partitions, so this isn't an
issue. No matter what distribution you decide on, you might want to check
http://www.linmodems.org, which has information on Linux drivers for
software modems. (As with filesystem support, driver support isn't
generally distribution-specific, although some binary-only drivers may be
designed for one distribution or another and therefore be more difficult
to use in other distributions.)

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux

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From: Josh Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: my login prompt ran away...
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:30:12 GMT

Update:
        I was able to able to get a prompt on the box by doing [as root] 'login 
< /dev/tty1' from telnet. It put up a prompt, and I was able to login, and 
startx. yay. but the question is, how to get working normally aside from 
adding the above to rc.local...

Josh Nichols wrote:
> 
> Hmmm... still no login prompt. So let me go over it again....
> So I turn on my computer, and it boots everything up fine [on runlevel 5],
> except there is no login prompt [normally standard login, not X]. In my
> /etc/inittab, it has:
> # Run gettys in standard runlevels
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
> 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2
> 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
> 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
> 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
> 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6
> 
> Like I said earlier, I can still telnet into it. I can login as my normal
> user, switch to root, and 'startx' and it will start an X session on the
> console. I also can 'sulogin /dev/console' to do a single user session, and
> then startx. But I can't switch to the user account and startx because
> "Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have
> console ownership?"
> 
> Also, the DISPLAY isn't being set in the /etc/profile.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> > 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Josh Nichols wrote:
> > >I have an interesting problem... I restarted my linux box [RH6.1] for
> the
> > >first time in awhile [almost a week] right before going to bed, and
> didn't
> > >look to see if it had actually booted... so I get home from school the
> next
> > >day to find that it had booted fine, but there was no login prompt! I
> tried
> > >restarting, but that didn't help. The weird thing is that I can still
> > >telnet into it. I'm not exactly sure what I did, but I haven't done
> > >anything major except playing around with remote X sessions, but nothing
> > >else... any suggestions?
> > 
> > Since you still can telnet into it ...
> > [/sbin/runlevel] :: after a reboot something like N 2
> > ... then see /etc/inittab ...
> > c1:1234:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 tty1
> > ... and voila, agetty processes are spawned in all runlevels from 1 .. 4.
> > 
> > If the 2, common value for multi user mode, is not what runlevel
> > is telling you, then do a ...
> > /sbin/telinit 2
> > ... for instance. Use some runlevel in which a getty process is supposed
> > to be spawned.
> > 
> > If you can get a login prompt that way, go to bed, have nap and
> > investigate further after having had some sleep.
> > 
> > If not, then do a /sbin/telinit S.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Juergen
> > 
> > -- 
> > \ Real name     : Jrgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
> >  \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
> 
> 
> 
> --
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From: "pentalpha | newtotheinternet.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Mp3 Player for Car
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:41:45 GMT

Greetings.

I am currently undergoing a project to create my own car mp3 player.  I've
found similar projects (at sites like http://www.carplayer.com/plans.html),
but for experience (and lack of the $20) I have decided to do it myself.  If
anyone out there is interested in collaborating or helping, or whatever,
contact me.

So, far the following tasks need to be accomplished:

- the box is basically going to be a head-less PC
- linux will act as the OS, which means no swap space, mount filesystem read
only and prob. use FAT16 on / for simplicity and lack of privledges.  I also
need some way to disable the login....
- the actual mp3 player must be command-line driven and will be called from
the bash init scripts.  It will always start playing the same playlist file
(m3u) randomly.  (the player must include command-line parameters to do
this)
- the sound card will be either a creative sound blaster (one of the first)
or whatever is integrated on this Cyrix 6x86MX motherboard I have laying
around.
- I'd like to eventually add an LCD screen to the parallel port for ID3
output (any ideas???)
- there has to be some mechanism to upload more songs.  By using FAT16, I
can just yank out the hard disk and pop it in my Win95 machine, where I keep
Napster.  Or possibly give the machine a modem and set up a null modem
network, but that would make it heavier and more expensive.

If anyone has any suggestions, hints or help, feel free to send me a
message.  When I finish this I plan to release my plans for FREE!  None of
this 20 buck crap.  Peace.

---//---

: pentalpha
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: icq uin - 1688728
: http://www.newtotheinternet.com





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Telnet problems with Linux console
Date: 9 Mar 2000 23:50:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8a9mr7$i7r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  I access the net
> through a dial-up ISP.  My wife needs to telnet into her account at a
> local university.  We can telnet using an xterm easily enough, but when
> we try it under the console, the server tells us that it doesn't
> recognize the terminal type.  Is there a way to fool the server into
> thinking that it's dealing with a "standard" terminal?

Using xterm, the TERM type is "xterm".  Using the Linux console, it's
"linux".  The computer (you are connecting to) understands the value
"xterm" but not the value "linux".  You may like to try out one of the
vtXXX TERM entries instead: the simplest is "vt100".  You can do this by
running

$ env TERM=vt100 telnet some.other.host

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Sergey Grishin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp problem
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:19:15 +0200

Hello

I have a problem dialing to my ISP.

Using minicom I dial and tell him my login & password.
Then I start PPP manually:

pppd /dev/ttyS1 38400 &

It receives IP numbers and configures interface. Pinging DNS gives
positive result.
And when I try to ping some other host it says the host is unknown (I
tried both specifying host by IP address and domain name).
When I try:

ftp sunsite.unc.edu

it �thinks� for a long time and then reports that host is unknown.

Also

route
Ifconfig
cat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/host.conf

are reporting that everything is okay (according to ppp howto) on my
side.
Unfortunately under Windows everything works.

Thanks




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From: Martin Redmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:12:51 -0500

Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> scary. i couldn't live in a place like that. Of course Dublin City has a
> crime problem, but mainly burglary/theft, ie non-violent.
> 
> Outside of dublin things are a lot better. 
> 
[snip]
> 
> scary country....
> 

You shouldn't be so timid.  The US is a great country to live in.  I'm from
Dublin and I can tell you, Ireland is pretty dull after living in NY for
a few years.

Martin

> 
> -paul.

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From: John Broadhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Problem with tabs in rxvt
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:55:52 -0700

I'm having trouble with displaying tabs in rxvt.

If I cat or more a file that contains tabs, the tab character will force
the cursor to the end of the line. This only seems to happen in rxvt,
since it seems to work fine in xterm and the regular linux console.

Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong?

I'm using RedHat 6.1 and rxvt 2.6.1.

-John



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:58:07 GMT

Martin Redmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You shouldn't be so timid.  The US is a great country to live in.  I'm from
> Dublin and I can tell you, Ireland is pretty dull after living in NY for
> a few years.

Please don't compare Dublin to NYC. I fell into the same mistake when I
compared my homecity, 2M people, to the city in the US where I lived,
100K people.

Compare NYC to Paris or London. They are in the same league.

Vilmos


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Subject: a good freeware mpeg video player for Linux?
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:15:23 GMT

Hi,

I could not find a decent free video player for mpeg.
mtvp offers no control (pause, stop, etc.). mtv is
not free, and if the movie is longer than several
minutes it stops playing the sound - on purpose.

There is something called mpeg_play, but it does not
support sound.

Is it me that cannot find anything better, or?

Thanks for any suggestions.

        Minko


-- 
Minko Markov  -  Doctoral Student in Computer Science,
                 University of Victoria, Victoria, CANADA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: (250) 721-8768                             home: (250) 385-1041

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Laptop setup...
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:20:16 -0800

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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Makefile include -- no cd
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:29:04 GMT

Siemel Naran wrote:
> 
>    $ cat A/Makefile.define
>    # nothing yet
> 
>    $ cat A/B/Makefile.define
>    include ../Makefile.define
> 
>    $ cat A/B/C/Makefile
>    include ../Makefile.define
> 
>    $ cd A/B/C/
> 
>    $ make
> 
> The invocation of make above calls upon A/B/C/Makefile
> Which includes A/B/Makefile.define
> Which should cd into A/B, so that it includes A/Makefile.define
> But instead into includes A/B/Makefile.define over and over again

Yes, it will. Remember, all paths are relative to cwd, which in this
case is A/B/C. So, the "include ../Makefile.define" in A/B/C/Makefile
refers to A/B/Makefile.define (i.e. A/B/C/../Makefile.define) and
the "include ../Makefile.define" in A/B/Makefile.define _also_ refers
to A/B/C/../Makefile.define


> How to solve this problem?
One way to fix this would be to change A/B/Makefile.define to read 
"include ../../Makefile.define"

-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is a Zombie process?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:29:09 GMT

Kenny McCormack wrote:
> 
> In article <88r9ha$5ag$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> >: Typical GRE question.
> >: If I'm not mistaken, in English "zombie" means almost dead, isn't it?
> >
> >No, it means "living dead". Or "reawakened dead". It's moot whether
> >they're on the way down or up.
> 
> Tina Yothers?

Jerry Garcia?

-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: win2000 + linux client
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:48:31 +0000

Anyone know how to make a linux network client for a win2000 dialout.

I can get the Linux machine to see the local net and even ping the
win2000 machine which is the gateway, but I can't seem to reach the
outside world even when the other machine is fully dialled out.

When the same hardware runs win98 as a client it easily sees the outside
via the gateway and if the phone isn't dialled will cause a dial out as
required.
-- 
Robin Becker

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From: "Rainer Temme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Building and modifying libraries
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:05:56 +0100

"Ramin Sina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to add an object file (.o) to a .so library. Here is the
> error I get
>
> [sina@iss]$ ar -q ATICCdf.o libaticcdf.so
> ar: ATICCdf.o: File format not recognized
> [sina@iss]$

Hi Ramin Sina,

Shared-Libraries (*.so-files) are not build with "ar", they are build by the
compiler/linker
with e special option (-G on some compilers).
You need to have all object-files for the linking-process, unlike with
archive-libraries (*.a-files),
where you can simply add an object-file.

Regards Rainer




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