Linux-Misc Digest #849, Volume #23 Tue, 14 Mar 00 19:13:04 EST
Contents:
please help - need info on linux utility "scp" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Copying entire partitions... over the network ? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Databasing with Perl, Advice for a newbie (Andrew J. Perrin)
No APM for Kernal ("xia")
Re: slackware installation (Rob Clark)
Re: SHELLS (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Mp3 Player for Car (Van den Bosch Ludo)
Re: please help - need info on linux utility "scp" ("Garen Erdoisa")
Re: .kshrc & .profile (bmlam)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! (Jim McBoyle)
Linux Newbie compiling plptools (The Procrastinator)
Very Slow aterm (jay)
Re: mysql (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! (Johan Kullstam)
Re: ping script (Hal Burgiss)
OK Question. I changed the desktop to something weird (linuxidiot)
Which RDBMS would you choose? ("Dennis Edward")
Re: OK Question. I changed the desktop to something weird (Big Daddy)
Linux/Firewall problem (Michael Compton)
Re: tcsh up/down arrow history broken (Seth Green)
Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard... (Chuan-kai Lin)
unkillable linux box (cathy gramze)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: please help - need info on linux utility "scp"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:05:02 GMT
i am aware that scp is used to transfer files from machine to machine
using ssh for data transfer however it has been very difficult for me
to find info on scp besides for linux's manual pages. all i want is an
ex of how it would be implemented - exactly waht i would type in and
what it would do. that's it. nothing major. no details. just straight -
what do i type to make it go.
please answer as soon as possible.ive been looking on this too long.
thanks for your tiem and help its really appreciated
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Copying entire partitions... over the network ?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 22:16:19 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rudy Taraschi) writes:
]Andreas Grosche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]> how do I copy the *raw* data of an *entire* partition over TCP/IP
What do you mean by the *raw* data? Do you want all of the superblocks
inodes etc to be identical? Do you just want the data to be identical?
Do you care if data x on sector y on the first drive and on sector z of
the second?
Ie, be a bit clearer on your demands. The suggestion below will work
if you just want the data, not the detailed drive structure transfered.
(Note you must have the dest machine in your /etc/hosts file and you
must have the source machine in the .rhosts file on the dest machine.)
]> (i.e. the whole partition such as /dev/hdc6 e.g. to the /dev/hda6 on another
]> computer "at the other end of the network wire",
]from the 'tar' manpage on my SGI IRIX 5.3 machine:
]> To move hierarchies between machines, use the command
]>
]> cd fromdir; tar cBf - . | rsh remote "(cd todir; tar xBf -)"
]>
Note, I would use tar xBpf -, to make sure that permissions were
preserved. I would also probably use the S option.
tar xBpSf -
to handle sparse files properly.
(This assumes you use gnu tar. Otherwise sparse files are expanded and a
1K file can grow to 10M.)
]> where remote is the host name of the remote machine.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin)
Subject: Re: Databasing with Perl, Advice for a newbie
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:18:28 -0800
Paul G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
There are lots and lots of options:
- flat files, delimited with some convenient character;
- DBM files tied to Perl hashes (associative arrays);
- SQL::CSV, which lets you handle flat files like SQL databases; and
- DBI, the protocol for full-fledged relational database access from perl.
There's a great new book on exactly this topic (databasing from perl).
It starts from flat files and works from there. It's Descartes and
Bunce, "Programming the Perl DBI" from O'Reilly.
Good luck.
> Currently learning Perl (In 21 Days?)
>
> Could anyone give me advice on how I would go about databasing in Perl I
> know that array variables are available (I think :-)) are there any
> other ways of going about this?
>
> Many thanks
>
> --
> Paul G
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Consulting: Solaris-Linux-NT-Samba-Perl-MS Access-Postgres
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin
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From: "xia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No APM for Kernal
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:28:05 -0500
I installed RedHat Linux 6.0 on my machin. When I boot the machine up it
shows "No APM for Kernal" and when I shutdown the Linux it says "No APM
deamon". But the system still works. Can somebody tell me what the APM is?
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Subject: Re: slackware installation
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:21:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CAK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>in the help and how can i
>make a swap
>area
>and partition area
Full details are in the README7.TXT file in the top directory of your
CD-ROM. The short version:
After logging in as "root" but before running "setup," use cfdisk to
create Linux native and swap partitions.
(I prefer fdisk myself)
Here's an example of a hard disk that is ready to use:
--
Disk /dev/hda: 15 heads, 62 sectors, 899 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 930 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 71 32984 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda2 72 899 385020 83 Linux native
--
When you enter the setup program, the Linux swap will automatically be
recognized and configured. In my simple example, /dev/hda2 will be the
root ("/") partition.
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: SHELLS
Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:27:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bastian wrote:
> Edit your /etc/passwd file
... using the "vipw" command, or use the "chsh" command.
These will help in keeping you from having a messed-up
/etc/passwd, which could seriously harm your system.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Van den Bosch Ludo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mp3 Player for Car
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:32:55 GMT
Talking about carMP3-players.
Check this out:
http://www.empeg.com
Regards,
Ludo
Jamie Tomlinson wrote:
>
> The article can also be seen and printed out from:
>
> http://www.maximumpc.com/route66/howto1_3.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Jamie T.
>
> To respond by e-mail use: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Andrew Purugganan wrote:
> >
> > Guys GUYS Listen up
> >
> > The issue of Maximum PC on the newsstands has one such article right now,
> > complete with PICTURES! They even tell you where to get a PC case
> > specially made for a really low profile (Hah! didn't even know they made
> > them) RIGHT DOWN to THE LCD DISPLAY!!
> >
> > Go to the bookstore NOW!!
> >
> > Brian Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > : I've done some thoughts myself along the same lines, just haven't gotten to the
> > : point were I'm going to do it yet..
> > : a couple of things (ok, so the list grew to more than a couple):
> > : -probably the biggestest challenge is going to be having clean/reliable power
> > : (especially if the system tries booting up while your starting your car or
> > : something?)
> > : -as far as transfering new files to it, what I would do if toss a cheap
> > : ($20ish) network car in the system, you can mount a jack for it under one of
> > : the seats or something, so it's hidden yet easily accesable, and then ftp new
> > : mp3s to your car (don't have to worry much about security because no-one will
> > : have access to the machine being in your trunk. or even a network that uses
> > : radiofrequency, or even IR (if you park in a garage)
> > : -on mine I also want to be able to hotsync my palm to it.. :)
> > : -they make car stereo headunits with a small color lcd tvscreen built into
> > : them, if you use a video-output card (and want to spend $1,000 for the
> > : headunit) you can actually have a real display for it.. ...mabie someday, but
> > : that's ALOT of money, unless you get an internet connection from your car as
> > : well..
> > : - possibly use an ir-port with a remote control to control it (I've seen
> > : other people have hacked telephone keypads too...) or mabie something like the
> > : original gravis gamepad :)
> > : -SHOCK PROTECT THE HARDDRIVE ("Opps, hit a pothole....hey, why'd the music
> > : stop, and what's that grinding noise coming from the computer?")
> > : -why do you need to disable the login?
> > : -probably want to glue the audio-out cable so it doesn't pop-out.. and
> > : protect it so if somehow it gets banged it doesn't break (headphone style jacks
> > : suck, I've gone through a few portable cd players just because the headphone
> > : jack stopped working)
> > : -one you've got the computer in the car you can make it do other stuff as
> > : well.. security system for example.. you could even make it so you "log-in
> > : to your car" to start the engine, and if you hook-up a keyless entry system as
> > : well you could totally do without keys (although I'd want to keep the option of
> > : using keys as well). use some temperature sensors at let it control your heat
> > : and a/c in the car, and so forth.. might as well do more than just play music
> > : since the computer will already be there.. of course if your going to do
> > : stuff that requires the computer to be on all the time your going to want to
> > : make it draw as little power as possible with powersaving and so-forth, and
> > : also probably get a bigger, or second car battery, and mabie even buy a
> > : "battery tender" type charger (not a tricklecharger that'll boil your battery
> > : dry) so you don't run out of juice.. :)
> >
> > : let me know what you do for your power supply needs, this is probably the
> > : biggest thing stopping me from doing this myself.. I already have the spare
> > : processor/motherboard/soundcard/hard drive/etc....
> > : hope my wacky ideas helped, and good luck..
> > : -Brian
> >
> > : "pentalpha | newtotheinternet.com" wrote:
> >
> > : > Greetings.
> > : >
> > : > I am currently undergoing a project to create my own car mp3 player. I've
> > : > found similar projects (at sites like http://www.carplayer.com/plans.html),
> > : > but for experience (and lack of the $20) I have decided to do it myself. If
> > : > anyone out there is interested in collaborating or helping, or whatever,
> > : > contact me.
> > : >
> > : > So, far the following tasks need to be accomplished:
> > : >
> > : > - the box is basically going to be a head-less PC
> > : > - linux will act as the OS, which means no swap space, mount filesystem read
> > : > only and prob. use FAT16 on / for simplicity and lack of privledges. I also
> > : > need some way to disable the login....
> > : > - the actual mp3 player must be command-line driven and will be called from
> > : > the bash init scripts. It will always start playing the same playlist file
> > : > (m3u) randomly. (the player must include command-line parameters to do
> > : > this)
> > : > - the sound card will be either a creative sound blaster (one of the first)
> > : > or whatever is integrated on this Cyrix 6x86MX motherboard I have laying
> > : > around.
> > : > - I'd like to eventually add an LCD screen to the parallel port for ID3
> > : > output (any ideas???)
> > : > - there has to be some mechanism to upload more songs. By using FAT16, I
> > : > can just yank out the hard disk and pop it in my Win95 machine, where I keep
> > : > Napster. Or possibly give the machine a modem and set up a null modem
> > : > network, but that would make it heavier and more expensive.
> >
> > --
> > jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> > Registered linux user no. 164098-88940
> > Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> > --- OUT THERE??
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From: "Garen Erdoisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help - need info on linux utility "scp"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:32:02 -0700
1st, make sure sshd (the ssh daemon) is running on the destination machine.
2nd, make sure you can use ssh to establish a shell connection.
ie: ssh somemachine.somewhere.org
3rd: if the first two work, then try the following:
scp filename [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/filename
It should ask you for your ssh passphase, then transfer the file.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8amd2a$che$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i am aware that scp is used to transfer files from machine to machine
> using ssh for data transfer however it has been very difficult for me
> to find info on scp besides for linux's manual pages. all i want is an
> ex of how it would be implemented - exactly waht i would type in and
> what it would do. that's it. nothing major. no details. just straight -
> what do i type to make it go.
> please answer as soon as possible.ive been looking on this too long.
> thanks for your tiem and help its really appreciated
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: bmlam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .kshrc & .profile
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:38:06 +0100
Dav schrieb:
> I just installed the ksh
> I can get to it when i enter [bash%]ksh
> it brings me to a # prompt
> but i cant find the .profile or .kshrc to make changes
Dont know how the standard is on Linux. On other Unix platforms, the
superuser has to set it up, in, I believe, /etc/profile bcos that is
what gets executed first when someone logs in
>
> ALSO I would like this to be my default...
>
Again, ask the superuser to edit /etc/passwd for you. Eeach entry there
contains a value for the default shell
> If this isnt a super huge task I would love some
> input, also thanks to all who helped w/ the install
> and the .tar Q's
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: Jim McBoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:16:56 +0000
Whilst I was pretending to study, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i am not trying to be an ass, but on a boot disk you will want to save
> > memory. ed's not hard to use, it just kind of primitive. if you know
>
> Have you actually _tried_ tomsrtbt?
I have to say this, but Tomsrtbt is excellent, it's saved my <ahem> many
times... especially at the moment, as it's helped troubleshoot the beowulf
cluster I'm putting together for my final year project at uni<happygrin>
much kudos to Tom for making it!
> It is available at:
>
> http://www.toms.net/rb/
>
Try, Use, Keep a copy in your pocket for handy emergency work!
Have Fun,
Jim.
--
James McBoyle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "There is no spoon." Neo, The Matrix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Spooooooooooon!" The Tick, The Tick
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From: The Procrastinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Newbie compiling plptools
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:52:15 +0100
Please advise this linux programming newbe.
I am trying to communicate with my psion5 mx from my linux-pc
(psiconv may also be helpful later)
I found plptools-0.4 and think this should be suitable but
cannot get it to compile.
Distribution SuSE 6.3
Compiler gcc --version
egcs-2.91.66
glib2
/usr/bin/i386-glibc20-linux-c++
/usr/bin/i386-glibc20-linux-g++
/usr/bin/i386-glibc20-linux-gcc
/usr/i486-glibc20-linux/lib/*
./configure seems to run okay without errors.
make fails with these errors
log.cc: In method `int logbuf::overflow(int = -1)':
log.cc:20: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned
../lib/.libs/libplp.so: undefined reference to `streambuf::seekpos(long, int)'
../lib/.libs/libplp.so: undefined reference to `streambuf::seekoff(long,
ios::seek_dir, int)' ../lib/.libs/libplp.so: undefined reference to
`streambuf::sys_seek(long, ios::seek_dir)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [ncpd] Error 1 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
I have the headers for streambuf.h
/usr/i486-glibc20-linux/include/g++/streambuf.h
/usr/include/g++/streambuf.h
I am not sure in which library the code is in though. It should be there
somewhere.
The other thing of interest is from the making of libplp.la:
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link g++ -O2 -Wall -s -o libplp.la -rpath
/usr/local/lib --debug -version-info 1:0:0 bufferarray.lo bufferstore.lo
iowatch.lo ppsocket.lo rfsv32.lo log.lo -lnsl -lhistory rm -fr
.libs/libplp.la .libs/libplp.* .libs/libplp.*
*** Warning: This library needs some functionality provided by -lhistory.
*** I have the capability to make that library automatically link in when
*** you link to this library. But I can only do this if you have a
*** shared version of the library, which you do not appear to have.
*** The inter-library dependencies that have been dropped here will be
*** automatically added whenever a program is linked with this library
*** or is declared to -dlopen it.
My libhistory is
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27110 Aug 7 1999 /usr/lib/libhistory.a
I dont see anything like libhistory.so
I am not sure what I am missing or have done wrong.
Helpful suggestions welcome.
Adrian
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From: jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Very Slow aterm
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:49:53 GMT
I am attempting to run aterm terminals with the Afterstep window
manager. My aterms work fine provided that I do not use transparency.
As soon as I give a command line option to use transparency, the aterm
that opens up is ridiculously slow. Almost like I am using the window to
access data over a 9600 baud modem. I am not sure what the problem is.
I have rebuilt the libjpeg libraries. Still nuthin'
The biggest catch is that I have the same executables running on another
machine that is running the same OS and no problems. I have 256 megs of
RAM and a 450 Mhz processor. So I don't think that resources are a
problem.
Any ideas?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mysql
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:01:52 -0500
L_newbies wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can download mysql for linux and related
> documentation?
>
Err....how about... http://www.mysql.org??
Did you even *try* to look for it on the web??
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
We will have solar energy as soon as the utility companies solve one
technical
problem -- how to run a sunbeam through a meter.
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:16:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i am not trying to be an ass, but on a boot disk you will want to save
> > memory. ed's not hard to use, it just kind of primitive. if you know
>
> Have you actually _tried_ tomsrtbt?
no
> Please use it and then see if you still feel the same way.
sounds fair enough.
> It is available at:
>
> http://www.toms.net/rb/
you seem to have crammed a *supendous* amount of stuff on one lousy
floppy. i am duly impressed. i'll give it a whirl. thanks.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: ping script
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:37:43 GMT
On 14 Mar 2000 11:52:21 -0800, Ray B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings all. I am trying to make a script that will ping a computer
>every few minutes and reboot itself if there is no answer. Does anyone
>have any script to post?
>
>Thanks very much for all the help,
Not tested but:
while true; do
if ! ping -c1 -i $SECONDS $HOST > /dev/null; then
reboot
fi
done
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: linuxidiot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OK Question. I changed the desktop to something weird
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:30:35 GMT
Ok i changed the desktop to something weird, now i want to go back to kde,
i dont know what i changed it to...but when X starts x-term is the only on
on in sight, when i click the mouse i get this little green menue that
offers me anything but changing back to kde can ya help me get back to kde
ken
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From: "Dennis Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.databases
Subject: Which RDBMS would you choose?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:47:45 GMT
Oracle just p*d me off again with their palm-out attitude, and I'm (not for
the first time) considering replacing our Oracle RDBMS with an open-source
alternative. The two that come to mind are Postgres and Interbase (when the
source comes out). Since this is for a business setting, things like
robustness, speed, and transaction/rollback ability are important. Our data
is less than 10 GB, and read-mostly.
Anyone done anything similar, and care to share some sooth?
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OK Question. I changed the desktop to something weird
Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:49:40 GMT
Scribbling furiously, linuxidiot managed to write....
: Ok i changed the desktop to something weird, now i want to go back to kde,
: i dont know what i changed it to...but when X starts x-term is the only on
: on in sight, when i click the mouse i get this little green menue that
: offers me anything but changing back to kde can ya help me get back to kde
Try just typing "kde" or "startkde" at that xterm....
--
Big Daddy
For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.
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From: Michael Compton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux/Firewall problem
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:01:17 -0800
Hello,
This might be a dumb question, but here goes:
I have a dual-boot (Win98/Linux) pentium that sits behind our
newly-installed firewall (a SonicWall DMZ) and use "one-to-one NAT" for
mapping a "public" IP address onto the machines "private" IP address.
Everything works fine when I boot the machine under Windows; the machine
is available on our internal network via its private IP address, and is
also available from outside the firewall via the public one. However,
when I boot up Linux, the machine is only available from inside.
This leads me to believe that the firewall is configured properly, but
something in the Linux setup is keeping the system from being available
outside.
Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.
Michael Compton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Seth Green <sethgreen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: tcsh up/down arrow history broken
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:58:58 -0800
Hi-
I had the same problem to and I got my arrow keys to work, but I'm
not quite sure why it worked.
My symptoms were this: my shell was /bin/tcsh. Arrow keys for
scrolling through history worked on console, but not for any remote
login. Typing `history` produced no history list. Seemingly unrelated
every time I logged in I got a message that the coredumpsize limit
could not be set.
To get rid of the annoying message about coredump size, I commented
out this line in /etc/csh.cshrc
# limit coredumpsize 1000000
Next time I logged in not only did the annoying message disappear,
but my arrow keys now scroll through my shell history! Also typing
`history` gives a list of recent commands... ???
I uncommented and repeated the experiment, and commenting out that
line definetly solves my history problem, though I don't understand
why. Any clues?
I'm using YellowDog Linux for PPC which is similar to Red Hat for
Intel.
Seth
>
>I'm running the Intel version of Redhat 6.0. I have a pretty standard
>setup. I much prefer using tcsh to bash, and most tcsh things like
>filename completion work fine. However, the up arrow and down arrow
>method of scrolling through the command line history doesn't work, at
>least not on the console non-X logins. Left and right arrows work fine
>on the command line.
>
>I made sure that I set the history variable so I actually had a history
>to scroll through. The up/down arrows just show up as tildes on the
>command line.
>
>Any clues?
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From: Chuan-kai Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard...
Date: 15 Mar 2000 00:03:14 GMT
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chuan-kai Lin write:
>> Intel 440GX is for Pentium-II and Pentium-III Xeon systems, and the same
>> goes for the S2DGU motherboard.
> And thus is a chipset other than the HX which supports dual Pentiums, which
> you claimed does not exist. If you meant your remark to apply to only one
> type of Pentium you should have said so.
I suppose Pentium means nothing but Pentium, which is the trademark
Intel branded to a specific line of x86 processors. When somebody asks
"what kind of socket the Pentium fits in", the correct answer should be
socket-7, instead of "socket-7, socket-8, slot-1 SECC 1, slot-1 SECC 2,
slot-2, and socket-370, depending on which kind of Pentium you are talking
about". I thought that was obvious enough.
If you mean all processors with the word "Pentium" somewhere in its
name, then there are at least a dozen lines of processors different
from each other one way or another not counting frequency differences
(instruction set, socket/slot, electrical/bus interface, SMP support,
etc.) They are of such great variety that referring to them all as
"Pentium" does not make any sense anymore.
Either way, maybe we all contributed to the the mess in one way or
the other. The original poster I responded to was referring to dual
Pentium Pro systems, but mistakenly thought it had something to do
with the TX chipset. I saw the TX chipset mentioned, and mistakenly
thought he was referring to dual Pentium systems...
-- Chuan-kai Lin
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Subject: unkillable linux box
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cathy gramze)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:03:37 GMT
I inherited an old 486 Red Hat 5.2 box, sitting idle on a shelf, with my
network admin job. I want to make it a Win 95 box (rarely used!) so I can
swipe the existing Win95 box with a faster CPU and a bigger hard drive. I
plan to install Red Hat 6.1 and HP OpenMail on the better box.
I can't kill the Red Hat 5.2! No one knows the root password, or any other
password. I've set the BIOS to boot to the A: drive, rebooted with a
bootable DOS disk (to trash the partitions with) and watched as Linux
cheerfully booted from the hard drive. How can I kill this Linux off so I
can get on with my fiendish plan to create a better Linux box?
cathyy
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