Linux-Misc Digest #849, Volume #26 Thu, 18 Jan 01 10:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux not free anymore? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: scsi emulation problem... (Larry Condon)
Re: debian2.2r0: unable to read a tar from a DAT created on a SparcSolaris 7
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need sound help (Crystal cs4232) under kernel 2.4.x (Christopher W. Aiken)
Re: cutting & pasting (Steve Connet)
Re: Term emulator with *real* keypad emulation? (Thomas Dickey)
Mini Distribution with DOSEMU? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: setting up Win to access lin (ext2) files systems on the same computer? (i.e.
dualboot system) (Rod Smith)
Re: cutting & pasting (Steve Connet)
php running as cgi problem ("Michal Kolesar")
Re: linux2.4.0: VFS: can't mount root 03:05 (Steve Connet)
user created backdoor (David Clark)
Re: user created backdoor (Kae Verens)
Ultra ATA issue ("Richard Kimber")
insmod problems . . . (ekk)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:11:16 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
> On 18 Jan 2001 00:59:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
> >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rafael - LumesITSupport
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >]First when I get info about it I did not believed. But it seems to be
> >]true in Poland.
> >]Tax offices trying to find money or paid by Microsoft :) started to put
> >]tax from Linux. Thus if you have company you have to pay tax if you
> >]have Linux, the level of the tax is the same like from Windows NT
> >]Server. It is against low and our Worldwide Linux community have to do
> >]something with it. Please do something to not spread it to more
> >]countries.
> >On what basis do they tax it? Mind you governments can do what they
> >want. For a while here in BC the govt considered taxing house owners
> >saying that the rent that they did not have to pay because they owned
> >the house was like an income to them and thus they should be taxed on
> >it. Fortunately the idea died a well deserved political death.
>
> And I thought that Ontario politicians were greedy <g>. I hope that
> other political jurisdictions don't get the same idea; I can just see
> some provincial government politician deciding to increase the income
> tax of pedestrians because "the commutter costs (automobile/public
> transit) that they did not have to pay because they walked is like
> income, and should be taxed as such". <g>
The feds seem pretty greedy too; the amount of tax being assessed on a
single CD-R seems to keep rising, from what I hear. A couple weeks
ago, I bought a 50-pack of CD-Rs for $10. I gather that, in Canada, I
would have been assessed a tax of somewhere around $15 on that.
Apparently the intent seems to be that CD-R's are to be "sin-taxed,"
just like cigarettes and booze, such that you pay more in tax than you
do for the underlying product...
>>Note that this has nothing to do with Linux. It is still free. The
>>govenment can tax anything they want-- including the air you breathe
>>(Now, you are a runner, and thus you breathe more. Plse pay and
>>extra 25$ air tax). What stops them is the political cost of such
>>schemes.
> It's tactics like this (sales tax on a costless item) that gives
> politicians (rightly) a bad name. P'haps it's time for "Open Source
> Politics" <g>
That seems more likely to happen in Europe than in North America.
And "Free Politics" is more nearly the right term; the "open source"
movement has, at its roots, the point of _getting away from_
impractical things like defending principles on principle. After all,
the term "open source" came out of a discussion where the conclusion
was to:
"sell the idea strictly on the same pragmatic, business-case grounds
that motivated Netscape"
If the point of changing terms was to "dump confrontational attitude"
(which is on record as being the case) and to "sell strictly on
pragmatism" (which is a reasonable interpretation of "selling strictly
on pragmatic business case") the connection to either moral or ethic
principle seems pretty lost to me.
Putting the word "ethics" and "open source" in the same sentence is
pretty much a denial of ethics, unless your preferred ethical system
is based purely on pragmatic matters...
--
(reverse (concatenate 'string "ac.notelrac.teneerf@" "454aa"))
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
"The only constructive theory connecting neuroscience and psychology
will arise from the study of software."
-- Alan Perlis
[To the endless aggravation of both disciplines. Ed.]
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From: Larry Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: scsi emulation problem...
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:21:53 -0500
Did you change your /etc/fstab emtry to reflect the change to /dev/scd0?
Try #mount /dev/scd0 / -t iso9660 /your/mount_point. If that works it's
probably an fstab problem.
Rinaldi on someone else's box.
Mal Whitten wrote:
> Thanks for that. I think that I have recompiled the kernel scsi modules
> correctly. I was really fishing to see if anyone else had experienced
> similar problems.
>
> Mal.
>
> "BIANCO ROBERTO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:945933$8kh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > check out
> >
> > www.guug.de:8080/cgi-bin/winni/lsc-orig.pl
> >
> > to find out what hardware goes with which version of cdrecord and with
> > which version of the kernel.
> >
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Ben Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I am trying to set up scsi emulation on my dell inspiron 5000e with a
> > >SONY CD-RW CRX700E. I have compiled in emulation support, scsi support,
> > >and scsi generic support. I am running redhat 7.0 with kernel 2.2.18.
> > >In my lilo.conf I tell linux to ignore my cdrom as an ide device:
> > >append="hdc=ide-scsi". I have moved the cdrom link from /dev/hdc to
> > >/dev/scd0. When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get,
> > >
> > >{root@taiga}->cdrecord -scanbus
> > >Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
> > >Linux sg driver version: 2.1.39
> > >Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
> > >scsibus0:
> > > 0,0,0 0) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX700E ' '1.4h' Removable
> > >CD-ROM
> > > 0,1,0 1) *
> > > 0,2,0 2) *
> > > 0,3,0 3) *
> > > 0,4,0 4) *
> > > 0,5,0 5) *
> > > 0,6,0 6) *
> > > 0,7,0 7) *
> > >
> > >which seems fine. However, I am unable to mount the cdrom drive. When
> > >I try I get,
> > >
> > >{root@taiga}->mount /cdrom
> > >mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device
> > > (maybe `insmod driver'?)
> > >
> > >Am I missing a module? Or have I forgotten something. By the way, the
> > >cdrom works fine if I treat it as an ide drive.
> >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: debian2.2r0: unable to read a tar from a DAT created on a SparcSolaris 7
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:20:44 GMT
In article <946rfk$290$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <946dgj$nli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I've created an archive on my Sparc 5 (Sparc Solaris 7) at work and
I
> > wanted to untar it at home on my debian (x86 release 2.2r0).
> >
> > My DAT writer at work is a Sun Dat (a DSS3 I think)
> > My DAT reader at home is a Sony DT 7000 (DSS 2)
> > My DAT tape is a 90meter DSS 2 tape.
> >
> > I can create/extract an archive on both of my system, but I can't
> > create on one and extract on the other, the error message is:
> > "incoorect block size" then exit.
> >
> > But the 'mt -f /dev/st0 (or /dev/rmt/0 upon the os)' indicates me
the
> > right block size (512 bytes).
> >
> > So?
> > man tar (on my debian) and info tar seemed to give me a track to the
> > Truth, because they say that Sun tar is buggy and comput the
checksum
> > the wrong way, BUT gnu tar comput the checksum both way and checks
if
> > one of them work (at least in reading/extracting mode). So I should
be
> > able to extract my tar at home, created on my Sun (at work), no?
> >
> > More astunning!
> > I've a Win port of ?tar made by MKS (release 6.1), which, IT, can
read
> > my tar created on my Sun Workstation!!!!
> > What the hell can happened?
> > Why a WinTar port culd success where the 'orginal' sources could
fail?
> >
> > PLEASE HELP ME!!!! Save My Kernel (well, it's for extract
> linux-kernel-
> > 2.4.0 ;-) )
>
> Try setting Linux's tape-device to variable-block-mode:
> mt setblk 0
> Reference: /usr/src/linux/drivers/README.st
> DATs support this feature.
>
> The st (SCSI Tape) driver is how this is controlled.
>
> --
> Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
>
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>
Ok
Great! Many Thanks to you LJL!
I'll try it this evenig and i'll tell you tomorrow (I'had not time yet
to configure my modem).
Please Keep in touch!
The Die
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher W. Aiken)
Subject: Re: Need sound help (Crystal cs4232) under kernel 2.4.x
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:32:35 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:21:07 -0500, Maury Merkin wrote:
->In ealier kernels' 'make config' there was a place to give
->the configuration file the parameters needed for this driver
->(i/o addres, irq, and dma channels). That is no longer
->so and it seems that it is necessary to pass this
->information manually somehow on booting.
->
->I have tried adding an "append= " line in lilo.config but it
->has not worked. Perhaps I didn't do it properly but I've
->tried several different ways.
->
->Sound is not really a big deal for me but I'd like to be
->able to play cd's and such.
->
->Any suggestions are appreciated.
->
->Maury
->
Add a modprobe cs4232 io=0x... irq=... dm1=... dma2=... etc.
to your rc.local file. Just supply your correct info.
--
---
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com
Current O/S: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2
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Subject: Re: cutting & pasting
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:34:37 GMT
Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sounds like you are using KDE, you would likely get more response in
> comp.windows.x.kde.
Nope... using plain VTWM.
--
Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Term emulator with *real* keypad emulation?
Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:38:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thomas Dickey wrote:
>> all of the hits I find are for "xkb", which is not applicable.
>> perhaps you meant xkeycaps (which sets up xmodmap -- but that has problems).
> Yea, that is what I ment. What type of problems goes it have? I just
> installed it on my box and it seems to work fine.
It changes the behavior of all applications (not just xterm).
Also, commonly people are using a number for the the assignment,
which doesn't have the same meaning on all keyboards.
(xkeycaps is a good thing - I used it a while back to adapt a keyboard
for an X server that didn't recognize it - but it's not very useful for
making the numeric keypad work, since that has several states).
--
Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mini Distribution with DOSEMU?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:30:41 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for a Mini Distribution of Linux (to use on an old 486 with
8 megs of ram). I was also hoping the distribution could work with a
recent version of DOSEMU (0.98 or higher). Does anyone have any
suggestions. I am a bit of linux newbie, I am also using RH 6.1 on a
Pentium 333. Any suggestion for using linux with dosemu on an old 486.
Thanks in advance.
GP Doyle
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: setting up Win to access lin (ext2) files systems on the same computer?
(i.e. dualboot system)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:44:24 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <945bdv$t1c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gaiko Kyofusho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, i am a networking newbie and was told that the only (please
> tell me there are other ways to do it) way to have win see/read
> lin file systems is by using samba. I am rather unfamiliar with
> samba and was wondering (assuming there and no reasonable
> alternatives) if there are some newbie/spoon feeding type howtos
> on setting up samba to read lin partitions on the same computer.
If you want to read Linux partitions on the same computer as Windows,
Samba is 100% useless (at least for that purpose -- it may still be
useful to let other systems read the Linux partitions). What you want is
a utility or driver to handle ext2fs in Windows. Several are listed at:
http://www.penguin.cz/~mhi/fs/Filesystems-HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO-6.html
Also, even for network access, Samba isn't the *ONLY* way to give
Windows boxes access to Linux partitions, although it's probably the
most common way. It's also possible to run an NFS client on the Windows
computer or use other protocols, like IPX.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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Subject: Re: cutting & pasting
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:44:54 GMT
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why?
> Just highlight. Copy. Paste. Then delete the text you don't want.
Seems to me that it makes more sense if you can hilight the old text,
then paste. The old text gets replaced with the new text. All in one
step.
But the problem is stupid X copies the text as soon as you hilight
it. This is bad.
> If you really want to create extra steps for yourself, I suppose
> you could use xclipboard to accomplish that.
Actually they are the same amount of steps. Let's look:
My way:
1. Hilight text to be copied
2. Copy text to the clipboard
3. Hilight old text to be replaced
4. Paste (replaces old text with new text)
X way:
1. Hilight text to be copied
2. Paste text to new location.
3. Hilight old text.
4. Press the delete key on keyboard.
See. But in my opinion, my way is much more intuitive and faster.
So.. is there anyway to get X to do it my way? I'll look into
xclipboard... but knowing unix applications it's probably uneccesarily
complicated with 10,000 pages of wasteful and fluf documentation,
which you have to spend hours reading just to get it configured. Let's
not make any unix application work right out of the box and be very
intuitive, no way... that's not the unix way.
--
Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Michal Kolesar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cz.comp.linux,cz.comp.lang.php
Subject: php running as cgi problem
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:11:32 +0100
Hi all!
I have running php as cgi script.
file phpinfo.php:
!#/usr/local/bin/php.4
<? phpinfo(); ?>
my problem:
[root@quarto bin]# telnet 0 80
Trying 0.0.0.0...
Connected to 0.
Escape character is '^]'.
get http://www.vykysaly.cz/cgi-bin/vykysaly/phpinfo.php3 HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:06:14 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) (Red Hat/Linux) FrontPage/4.0.4.3
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.0.4pl1
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
#!/usr/local/bin/php.4
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<html>
<head><STYLE TYPE="text/css"><!--
A { text-decoration: none; }
when I connect to web i get the string "#!/usr/local/bin/php.4" on first
row. Phpinfo.php site is OK (php translation works) .. but on every php page
is
this row on top of site.
I tried use "#!/usr/local/bin/php.4 -q" - quite mod...
but there is other problem:
[root@quarto bin]# telnet 0 80
Trying 0.0.0.0...
Connected to 0.
Escape character is '^]'.
get http://www.vykysaly.cz/cgi-bin/vykysaly/phpinfo.php3 HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:02:19 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) (Red Hat/Linux) FrontPage/4.0.4.3
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.0.4pl1
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
No input file specified.
Connection closed by foreign host.
I get "No input file specified" ...
Any idea?
Than You for help!
--
S pozdravem,
Michal Kolesar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.egarden.cz
server of free unix services
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Subject: Re: linux2.4.0: VFS: can't mount root 03:05
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:46:24 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vito) writes:
> you must make a ramdisk with mkinitrd like this
>
> mkinitrd /boot/initrd-xxxxxx.img xxxxxxx
> (xxxxxx is the kernel version)
>
> then add it to your lilo.conf like this
> initrd=/boot/initrd-xxxxxx.img
Nah.. actually I was able to get it to work. I compiled the IDE driver
as a module... which is a no no if your root is using IDE. It works now.
--
Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: David Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: user created backdoor
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:40:33 -0700
Hi,
I have a user on my system who I suspect has created a backdoor for
himself somehow. This server is at a high school and we're still in a
learning curve with linux. We're running RH7.
I suspected him of some inappropriate activity on the system & changed his
password yesterday. He still was able to come in without a hitch last
night. From /var/messages:
Jan 17 20:18:25 xxxxxx PAM_unix[1593]: (system-auth) session opened for
user xxxx by (uid=0)
(the xxxxs are the server name & user name). I'd like to get a handle
on what's going on before I confront him as he obviously has more unix
experience than I do. Any ideas where I should look to figure this out?
Thanks,
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From: Kae Verens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: user created backdoor
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:00:34 +0000
David Clark wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a user on my system who I suspect has created a backdoor for
> himself somehow. This server is at a high school and we're still in a
> learning curve with linux. We're running RH7.
>
> I suspected him of some inappropriate activity on the system & changed his
> password yesterday. He still was able to come in without a hitch last
> night. From /var/messages:
>
> Jan 17 20:18:25 xxxxxx PAM_unix[1593]: (system-auth) session opened for
> user xxxx by (uid=0)
>
> (the xxxxs are the server name & user name). I'd like to get a handle
> on what's going on before I confront him as he obviously has more unix
> experience than I do. Any ideas where I should look to figure this out?
to begin with, try changing the root password as well.
Then look in /etc/passwd to see if the encrypted passwords are visible.
If the second field of each entry is an 'x', then you have shadow
passwords, which is good. If not, then I suggest you read up on them.
If the user is logging in from an external terminal, then he's most
likely logging in using someone else's account, 'su'ing to root, then
'su'ing to his own account, so he may have someone else's account. In
fact, it may be someone else who is masquerading as your user.
Kae
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From: "Richard Kimber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ultra ATA issue
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:00:24 -0000
I read in the HOWTO: Multi Disk System Tuning that ultra ATA cables must not
be more than 18 inches long. It also suggested that the two IDE channels
were often connected and so the two cables counted as one.
Since the distance between a disk and its connector will almost always be
more than 9 inches, does this mean that one can only ever run one disk?
And does it mean that the second IDE channel cannot be used for anything if
an ultra ATA disk is using the first channel?
- Richard Kimber.
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: insmod problems . . .
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:50:58 -0500
Hello,
Something I've always been confused about - and I'm embarrased to say
so, because it seems like one of the most fundamental and important
things about linux - but I have a hard time inserting modules!! For
instance, I'm trying to install RH, and I made the necessary network
files for my eth0 card, and I'm trying to do an 'insmod tulip.o', but
all I get is and '/lib/modules/2.2.12-20/net/tulip.o: init_module:
Device or resource busy' error. I know I can recompile the kernel with
tulip turned on and the rest of the network devices turned off, but
I don't want to - as it takes too long (even on my new dual 850
machine). What is the appropriate procedure for running this module???
Thanks,
Ken
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