Linux-Misc Digest #868, Volume #23               Thu, 16 Mar 00 22:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Need help defragmenting... (Sacgonepro)
  Re: C++ in Linux (Sacgonepro)
  Re: setting up my network ("Buck Turgidson")
  Modem does not initialize
  Monitor
  Re: rh6.1 needs to be optimized on amd K 7 (Sebastien Caille)
  How stable is gnuCash 1.3.5? (Rob Knop)
  LINUX VS. MS (roooster)
  Re: Monitor (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Opinion on Windows emulators? (Brilan Carver)
  Re: LINUX VS. MS ("David ..")
  Re: Toshiba 1605CDS (Peter Stark)
  Re: Opinion on Windows emulators? (Dances With Crows)
  writting my own man (Davis Eric)
  Re: How to make mounted floppy user writeable? ("Christopher R. Carlen")
  Re: telnet, keyboard-mappings, emulations.. ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: LINUX VS. MS (Alexander K)
  Re: Linux based software to US government? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  latex2html for linux? (Sam Cable)
  Re: Netfinity boot floppy ("Josh")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sacgonepro)
Subject: Need help defragmenting...
Date: 17 Mar 2000 01:11:22 GMT

i have an old pentium box that i want to convert to linux from win98...
i used the windows defrag to get all of the data together on the "front" of the
drive, so that i can use FIPS to create new partition ( i want to dual boot )
Although i have 629M of free space on my hard drive, FDIS is only giving me the
option to create a 29M (or smaller) new partition.  i believe this is because
the defragmenter program has not moved all of the data to the "front"... the
"show detail" option shows me that there are a few clusters towards the back of
the drive that it "cant move" (it's marked as a white square with red in the
upper right corner)   any ideas, anyone?   is there a better defragmenter that
will move these clusters?  

thanks in advance for any help!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sacgonepro)
Subject: Re: C++ in Linux
Date: 17 Mar 2000 01:15:36 GMT

tia,

i found the book "On to C++" by Patrick Henry Winston to be helpful in moving
from C to C++ (its published by Addison Wesley)  He uses a simple metaphor to
introduce all of the key concepts of C++ /Object Oriented Programming.

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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up my network
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:30:04 GMT

I am getting ready to install RH 6.1.  Any idea what kernel it has?  I have
a local store that sells Linksys pretty cheaply, and was going to pick one
up.  Thanks.

Regards from Washington, DC


Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ctfA4.3248$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> wally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 1) My linux box is unable to detect my network card(linksys 10/100 LAN
> > card).I have a feeling the non-detection is because the linux drivers
have
> > not been installed. Is this right? If it is then how can I install the
> > drivers?
>
> It's hard to be sure without knowing the exact model card you're using,
> possibly including the revision number, and the kernel you're using. My
> guess, though, is that you've got an LNE100TX. Recent versions of this
> card often don't work well with the stock drivers that come with the
> kernel. This problem has been fixed with kernel 2.2.14, so you can fix the
> problem by upgrading your kernel. There are other possible causes of this
> problem, but covering them all would be tedious. If upgrading your kernel
> doesn't help, try posting more details, including the exact model number,
> the kernel version you're using, whether you compiled it yourself or are
> using a precompiled binary, and perhaps what distribution you're using.
>
> > 2) I have just done a server installation on my box and I'm now trying
to
> > recompile the KERNEL using the follwing commands:
> >                cd /usr/src/linux
> >                make config
> >  but its coming up with an error message saying : can't target 'config'.
>
> I suspect you don't have full kernel sources installed. I recommend you
> get a complete kernel source tree from any of hundreds or thousands of
> Linux FTP sites. If you know of no others nearer you, try
> http://www.kernel.org for some pointers. When you have the kernel sources,
> follow these steps:
>
> 1) cd /usr/src
> 2) rm linux
> 3) mkdir linux-2.2.14
> 4) ln -s linux-2.2.14 linux
> 5) tar xvfz ~/linux-2.2.14.tar.gz
> 6) cd linux
> 7) make menuconfig
>
> You can then configure and make your kernel. Note that you may need to
> adjust some of these commands; for instance, if you try a development
> kernel, or if 2.2.15's been released and you try that, you need to adjust
> the kernel number. If you're running X, you may prefer "make xconfig" in
> step 7 rather than "make menuconfig". You'll probably need to be root to
> do all of this.
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem does not initialize
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:30:10 GMT

I just got linux. When i am in the KDE shell, i use Kppp to try to connect 
to the internet. My modem (Sportster 5600 Voice Internal) initializes when 
I use the terminal that runs with Kppp. But, then when I get connected to 
my isp, it disconects. Also, when ever I try to connect using Kppp the 
normal way, my modem starts initializing and does not go on from there.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitor
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:30:12 GMT

My monitor display is terrible in linux. The pixels are large and i can't 
fit everything on the screen. Where can I change my monitor settings?

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:20:49 +0100
From: Sebastien Caille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rh6.1 needs to be optimized on amd K 7

Slava ZIMINE wrote:

> [...]   For the moment, the reality showed me the inversed situation.
>
> Thanks if somebody else has played with AMD proc and is willing to share his
>
>   results.
>

Hello,
if your motherboard is an asus k7m, you may have a bios related problem.

- first solution:
in the bios, select "default settings" or something that sounds like
that
  (I'm not sure 'cause I don't have a k7)
- second solution:
update the bios (current version is 1.008 I think)

all those informations come from alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus

I know that 2.3 kernels have some special code for Athlon, but
I don't know if it has been ported in 2.2.15-pre kernels.
AFAIK non-optimized kernels runs fine on k7.

hope it helps


--
He who make the day recreate the sun,
He who make the night recreate the moon,
He who make the storms supplicate us with rain,
He who make the wind supplicate us with force
>>> ----------------------------------------------- <<<
icq:46340027




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From: Rob Knop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How stable is gnuCash 1.3.5?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:35:20 GMT

I know that the 1.2 branch is the stable branch, but if I use 1.3, it
will save me from having to muck with Motif.

The README file suggests that "soon" the 1.3 branch will be stable
enough for general use.   Has that "soon" happened yet?  Or if I use
1.3.5, do I risk having my account balances calculated wrong, and my
financial records lost?

-Rob

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From: roooster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX VS. MS
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:42:53 -0800

what is the fate of linux?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Monitor
Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:01:47 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:30:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>My monitor display is terrible in linux. The pixels are large and i can't 
>fit everything on the screen. Where can I change my monitor settings?

Before you waste even more of your time and ours, read the manual that
came with your distribution, or the online documentation that came with
the CD. Every paper manual that I have seen contains at least one chapter
addressing this and explaining how to go about configuring X.  You
will also learn many things and probably spare yourself a great deal of
future pain if you Read The Fine Manual *before* you have problems.

The exact tool you'll use depends on the distribution you have.  Mandrake
and RedHat use "Xconfigurator", SuSE uses "SaX", Debian uses "XF86Setup".
Run one of those utilities as root, and you will be asked a bunch of
questions about your graphics card and monitor.  Answer them correctly.
After that is done, you should be able to start X in a more pleasing
resolution and color depth.  If this doesn't completely work, you can edit
XF86Config (under /etc or /etc/X11 ) by hand to tweak it a bit.

Some video cards, notably a few Trident models, some SiS models, and the
absolutely newest cards (Rage 128 Pro, GeForce) don't really work
quite right yet or require more tweaking.  If you run into trouble that
you can't resolve by reading the documentation, post the following
information and someone will probably be able to help you:
1. Distro with version number (RedHat, SuSE, Corel, Caldera....)
2. Make and model of graphics card

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: Brilan Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opinion on Windows emulators?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:04:11 -0500

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:40:23 -0800, Gordon Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> If I have an interest in emulating Windows applications under Linux, are there
>> any choices other than WINE and VMWare?  Of these choices, can anybody contrast
>> and compare the different products?
>
>I haven't used WINE, so I won't comment on it.  
>
>I'm currently using VMWare to run a virtual NT machine on RedHat 6.1. 
>So far, I'm pretty impressed.  Everything runs (well, as well as
>anything runs on NT), and performance is plenty acceptable (I'm on a
>667MHz Pentium III).  Having worked on virtual environments in a
>previous life at Apple, I can attest to the difficulty of the problem. 
>The folks at VMWare seem to have done a fine job.
>
>You can download vmware for evaluation from http://www.vmware.com.  It's
>the full product, the license just expires in 30 days.  I'm happy enough
>with it that I'll be shelling out the bucks at the end of the evaluation
>period.
>
>Good luck.
>
>----
>Gordon Durand      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Silicon Graphics

Re: Vmware
If the 'Windows' is running "like a virtual pc",under linux ,would
not that windows system be subject to the same bugs and GPF's of the
system
runnning under it's own operating system.
If so then Wine might be a better choice as it only uses parts of
Windows.

Just curious for an answer from someone who really knows !

BC

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX VS. MS
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:02:19 -0600

 Still going & going & going &, well you get the idea?
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From: Peter Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Toshiba 1605CDS
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:09:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

> I have a toshiba portege 7020. It has a lucent winmodem. Works "fine"

                  ^^^^^^^?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Opinion on Windows emulators?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:17:38 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:04:11 -0500, Brilan Carver 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>If the 'Windows' is running "like a virtual pc",under linux ,would
>not that windows system be subject to the same bugs and GPF's of the
>system
>runnning under it's own operating system.
>If so then Wine might be a better choice as it only uses parts of
>Windows.

Yes, misbehaving WinXX applications can cause VMware to crash.  The thing
is, VMware runs as a user-level process under Linux, and asks the Linux
kernel very nicely to do things like direct hardware access.  Should
VMware do something silly and attempt to access memory space that it
shouldn't (ie, GPF) then the Linux kernel will send a SIGSEGV and VMware
will die.  Linux will keep running as though nothing had happened... and
restarting VMware is a *lot* faster than rebooting WinXX from scratch.

Wine is still not up to VMware's level, but it's free (speech and beer)
and actively being developed and therefore cool....

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Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: Davis Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: writting my own man
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:11:42 GMT

Hi, there,

I met a problem when I tried to write my own man pages. I wanted to
first test the source files for the man pages before I put them to the
final places. So, I created a directory called /home/username/man . Then
 I put the source files here. I tried to use the -M option of man in the
following way
man -M /home/username/man manfile.location
But it told me that no manual pages for this manfile.

BTW, if I want to put my own man pages in a non-standard place, how can
I tell man to look at that place?

Thanks,

Davis


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will feel shameful if I haven't realized it.
--Myself


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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make mounted floppy user writeable?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:22:41 -0800

Steve wrote:
> Reading man mount it looks asthough you could make the following
> addition to your line
> 
> /dev/fd0        /floppy                   auto       noauto,user,rw 0 0
> 
> I havn't tried this but it should work.


No, adding rw won't change anything because it is the default case
anyway.

I have found a solution, and some interesting facts about mounting
filesystems, and permissions, that I wish someone could explain in
depth:

If I have 

drwxr-xr-x   2 user1     users        1024 Jan  5 12:57 floppy

BEFORE I mount, then after I mount, I see

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root        1024 Jan  5 12:57 floppy

and user1 can't write to it.

However, if I change the permissions to 

drwxr-xr-x   2 user1     users        1024 Jan  5 12:57 floppy

AFTER mounting, then the user1 can read/write.  What's more, AFTER I
unmount it again, the permissions go back to

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root        1024 Jan  5 12:57 floppy

And return to user1,users ownership when I mount it again.

That means, there must be permissions information stored on the disk
itself, or in some other file in the system.

Anyone know about this?

I suppose that originally, the disk was formatted by root, so when
mounted it had root ownership until changed by root.  Yes, I have
confirmed this by formatting a disk as user1, which is allowed since
/dev/fd0 is writeable by all.  When the disk mounts, /floppy switches to
user1,users

Hmm.  If the /dev/fd0 is rw by all, then even if there is an owner of
the /floppy when mounted, there is little security because one can
directly access the device file.  

I have to study this further...

Any comments?


_____________________
Christopher R. Carlen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux 2.2.10

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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet, keyboard-mappings, emulations..
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:47:59 GMT

Patrick Erler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T.E.Dickey) wrote in
> <zn9A4.4646$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>>Patrick Erler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> so here is what i want to have, maybe someone can tell me in 2 or 3
>>> words what to do...
>>I would use CRT with vt220 emulation - close but not quite.  There's a
>>terminfo entry 'crt' in ncurses 5.0
>>(http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/ncurses). The fewer things you
>>customize, the simpler it is to maintain. 
>>
> ok, found it. can i just copy the terminfo.src over the terminfo at the 
> linux-box? and then i do en "export TERM=CRT" right?

yes - not just copied: terminfo.src has to be compiled (normally as root):

        tic terminfo.src


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX VS. MS
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:57:05 +0100

roooster wrote:

> what is the fate of linux?
>
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oh what a boring post. if you want to start a discussion, then say something yourself.
and even then, i think some would say this isn't the place.

so instead i'll tell you a joke.
hmm...
...

who am i kidding, i'm just as boring myself.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux based software to US government?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:51:55 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
The Scotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can neither confirm nor deny that the US government already uses
Linux
> in network servers and firewalls.
>

The Department of the Army uses Linux in numerous key roles, according
to publicly available records.  For example, ....

    http://www.rap.ucar.edu/projects/tecom/

Talk to your contracting officer's representative for information on
supplying Linux with your project.  It is not specifically excluded.


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From: Sam Cable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: latex2html for linux?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:02:25 -0600

Hi all.

I have used latex2html on my UNIX station at work.  A very handy
package.  I was thinking there must be a version for linux out there,
but my web surfing hasn't turned up anything.  Anybody know how to get
latex2html for linux?

Thanks.

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From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Netfinity boot floppy
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:08:54 GMT

Whoa, wait, its saying LILO twice?

Could it be that you have it installed to the superblock of the disk AND
installed to the master boot record?

Perhaps you would like to tell LILO to uninstall itself with a "lilo -R
<device>".

:)

If you can get it working, I'd like to hear about it.  =)

--Josh



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