Linux-Misc Digest #868, Volume #18 Tue, 2 Feb 99 18:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: use theramin as input device (Eric Miller)
Re: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background (Lawrence Sweeney)
Linux Database Question (Steve Quinn)
Re: Zip Disk: Win 95 OK, Linux not happy (Nicholas Guarracino)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: Problems with Network Card (Ben Russo)
Re: Newbie question: can't run stuff? ("Matt Penfold")
Re: info (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background (Staffan H�m�l�)
Sybase ct-lib connecting to SqlServer 7.0 ("John Hamlik")
Re: Howto create files... (Tom Fawcett)
Re: SuSE 5.3 not compiling sources (Ulrich Teichert)
Shells ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Shells (Walther Ligtvoet)
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From: Eric Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:51:00 -0800
steve mcadams wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any work that has been done with the idea of using
> a theramin for an input/pointing device? -steve
> --------------------------------------------------------
> so what? - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
Wouldn't that be making the easy, difficult? Most theramins I've seen
are bigger than a mouse and keyboard, and would require two hands to use
(unlike a mouse). A novel idea, but just plain silly.
--
Eric G. Miller
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tidepool.com/~egm2
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In vino veritas [In wine there is truth]
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From: Lawrence Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:06:16 +0000
2) How in the hell do you get support for a hippie commune product like
this?
(I know the corporate software isn't much better in the support
department, so
don't flame. I'm just a little cheezed off.)
Perhaps by rephrasing your question ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Quinn)
Subject: Linux Database Question
Date: 2 Feb 1999 21:52:56 GMT
Hi,
I'm going to be implementing a database server using an Intel box running
Linux, with PosgresSQL (sp?) as the database software.
My understanding is that Linux does not (currently) implement raw disk
partitions. This is probably a stupid question, but, given this, is there
any way to circumvent the filesystem when implementing a database in Linux?
In particular, I want to avoid the filesystem I/O buffering in order to
guarantee write consistancy in case of a system crash.
Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.
--
Steve Quinn
NCSA at University of Illinois
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(217) 244-7570
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From: Nicholas Guarracino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip Disk: Win 95 OK, Linux not happy
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:17:32 -0500
I'm assuming you have the parallel port version Zip drive? With that, you
can't use the printer and Zip drive at the same time, hence you're compiling
them as modules. You must also compile lp support as a module. It should show
up under /lib/modules/2.2.1/misc after make modules_install.
Also you must remove the lp module before loading the ppa module. I just do
something like modprobe -r lp and then modprobe ppa when I want to use the
zip drive and vice versa when I want to print. Seems to work
ok for me, but I haven't tried it on a 2.2 kernel yet. Also if you have
mounted a filesystem on your zip drive, make sure you umount it before trying
to remove the ppa module.
Good luck...
>Nicholas Guarracino ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
>: If you want to use ppa as a module, when you compile your kernel,
you must
>: choose ppa as a module during make config. After you compile the
>: actual kernel, you have to make the modules separately by typing make
modules.
>: Then you must install the modules by typing make modules_install.
Have a look
>: under /lib/modules/2.2.1/scsi and there should be a file
called ppa.o which is
>: the module you can load. Also make sure you've
enabled module support in your
>: kernel as well.
>
>
>Hi,
>
> Thanks
for the speedy reply! I tried what you suggested, and got
>a little further.
This is what I now get:
>
>chain# insmod ppa
>/lib/modules/2.2.1/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>chain# insmod lp
>insmod: lp: no module by that name found
>
>Well, this is an improvement, actually. Any suggestions on how
>I might get this to load? It seems the module is there.
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 02 Feb 1999 13:52:03 -0800
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>>>>> "david" == david perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
david> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
david> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>>> "david" == david perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> writes:
david> I agree. However, I felt the need to correct a really
david> stupid statement made by someone to the effect that the
david> first computer was built in England. This guy (don't
david> remember who it was) then proceeded to define a computer
david> as...you guessed it...what was first built in England.
david> This was mighty Clinton-esque of him. The fact that this
david> statement was made in answer to an equally stupid statement
david> that the computer was invented in the US didn't excuse it.
>> Well, if this refers to me, it's inaccurate. I did not write
>> that the first computer was built in England, I wrote that it
>> was invented in England. So, you're tilting against a windmill
>> & denouncing a statement that never was made. Since all the
>> accounts I have seen derive the modern computer from the abacus
>> and Babbage's Analytical Engine, -- in no way, shape or form
>> did Americans "invent" the computer.
david> Well, it's crap this way, too. Computers were NOT invented
david> in England. Babbage invented the Difference Engine, which
david> never actually worked. The Difference Engine was supposed
david> to be a mechanical computer. There's an ENORMOUS
david> difference between the way a mechanical computer works and
david> the way a digital, electronic computer works. If you say
david> this is "the" computer invention, it's just as valid for me
david> to say the first computer was a biological brain. After
david> all, it does image and audio processing and also interprets
david> instincts into neural commands. Your insistance that
david> England can claim credit for the first computer invention
david> is just asinine.
Tough to just admit you were wrong, eh? Well, it's equally "asinine"
to maintain that Americans deserve all the credit. The theoretical
and yes, even some of the practical, groundwork for the construction
of ENIAC were laid in England. If it had not been for the work done
in England, especially in the early 40s, there would have been no
ENIAC in 1946. I don't know why this is such a tough concept for some
people to handle. Machismo Americanos -- just can't admit that the
rest of the world can have a hand in anything. Sheesh! You're about
on the level of the Russians who claimed to have invented television.
Read it and weep:
http://www.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~stu19/hum2e03/o'brien/humaniti/colos.htm
mp
- - --
Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro,alt.comp.pheriphs.mainboard.supermicro,intel.networking_and_communications.network_adapters_and_hubs
Subject: Re: Problems with Network Card
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:03:25 -0500
Just a suggestion, boot into NT, and check the hardware settings of this
network card on System A.
Read the documentation for the "eexpress" driver and see if it will take
boot options for the IO and IRQ addresses. If it will, then at boot time
you will have to make a lilo boot disk and have something like the
following in the lilo.conf file:
append="ether=12,0x300,eth0"
I think that your eexpress driver is autoscanning the IO devices on the
system and it thinks it has found the network card, but hasn't.
-Ben.
megasurg wrote:
> Let me first explain that I have a small network of four machines. I
> will refer to them as System A-D, to make things easier. All of the
> systems have the same network adapter, which is an Intel EtherExpress
> 16. I'm using a Kingston 5 port hub also. The systems themselves
> differ in hardware, CPU and OS's installed. Below is a brief summary of
> each system.
>
> System A: SuperMicro P5STE Mainboard w/ P-100Mhz CPU; it is dual-booted*
> with Win95 and Linux (SUSE Dist.)
>
> System B: VA-503+ Mainboard w/ P-200Mhz CPU; it is dual-booted* with
> WinNT4.0 sp4 and Linux (SUSE Dist.)
>
> System C: 486 generic Mainboard w/ 486DX2-100Mhz; it only runs Linux
> (SUSE Dist.)
>
> System D: 486 generic Mainboard w/ 486DX2-50Mhz; it only runs Linux
> (SUSE Dist.)
>
> * when I say "dual-booted", I mean that both OS's exist however Lilo is
> not installed or any other boot-loader...I use a Lilo Boot Disk to boot
> into my linux on those machines (System A & B in question).
>
> Ok, now let me explain my problem. Basically, all of the systems can
> connect to the network except System A. For some reason System A won't
> connect or rather initialize the network card in Linux. Now if I boot
> into my microsoft windoze they are also network seperately and they
> indeed communicate. (I do not have my windoze network connected with my
> linux network, they are seperate entities.) Because System A & B can
> connect to each other, that tells me that the physical card should work
> fine. However, it does not. When I boot into my linux network all of
> the machines can connect except for System A. To test this theory, I
> even replaced the Network card in System A with an extra one I had and
> it still worked the same.
>
> One thing I noticed is that all of the traffic indicator lights go on
> the hub right when power is turned on each system, except System A. I
> decided to take a closer look at this. I found that if I boot into
> Win95 on System A and go through a "step-by-step confirmation", the
> light on the hub for that system turns on at the point when Win95 is
> loading all of it's drivers. When I boot into linux, the light never
> goes on. Now a quick note on drivers. On all of the linux systems, I
> use the same ethernet driver which is eexpress.c. Again the only system
> that doesn't respond or cannot connect to the network when linux is
> running is System A.
>
> I went through and decided to pay particular attention to any possible
> conflicts. I checked IRQ and I/O conflicts and found none. So that's
> pretty much out.
>
> Now while booted into linux on System A, I can ping myself and the
> systems tells me that the card is activated and acknowledges it as
> eth0. So, there shouldn't be anything here.
>
> Well, one last thing to check...the bios. I decided to check the bios
> of each system and see if there were any differences. Well, obviously
> there are. I have four different motherboards and each has it's own
> unique bios. All of them except System A are fairly standard. System
> A, on the other hand has quite the detailed bios of which is my
> problem. I'm not sure what all of the settings mean but I can manage to
> fumble through it. I have turned off PNP features of any bios that had
> it long ago so as to avoid conflicts within linux and I find that
> windoze doesn't really care anyway.
>
> So, the only thing I see that maybe a problem is might be the bios. But
> then again it could still be a number of things I may have overlooked or
> just not known of. If anyone has any ideas please, I beg of you send
> them my way. I really would like to get this system online and I am now
> completely out of ideas. If you would like more information please let
> me know and I'll post it. Thank you for any assistance.
>
> --
> "If there is a *quintessential zone of human privacy* it is the mind."
>
> If you wish to send me a message using PGP my key is located here:
> http://www.teleport.com/~megasurg/pgpmegasurg
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From: "Matt Penfold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question: can't run stuff?
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:52:25 -0000
D. Dale Gulledge wrote in message ...
>Brian Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Often, when I install a program, I can't run it. For instance, I
installed
>> Netscape 4.5 to /opt/netscape. No matter what I type, and no matter if
I'm
>> logged on as a user or as root, I can't get it to run.
"/opt/netscape/netscape"
>> says "No such file or directory". "cd /opt/netscape; netscape" says
"command not
>> found". "cd /opt/netscape; ./netscape" says "No such file or directory".
What
>> am I doing wrong? I'm using SuSE 5.2 if it matters.
>
>It probably isn't executable. Assuming that there is nothing else wrong
with
>it, use chmod to make it executable. However, be careful that the
ownership
>is correct and that you don't make it executable by people who shouldn't
have
>access to it. For Netscape, that should be a non-issue, but for daemons,
>exercise some caution.
>
I had this problem, it turned out to be I was using GLIB2C version of
netscape and NOT the lib5c (which is what my system used at the time). Try
downloading Netscape agfain< making sure that you select the right library
version. Thelink from Netscapes web page only points you to the GLIBC
version, so try ftp.netscape>com and llook for the correct version.
Hope this helps
Matt Penfold
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: info
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:28:47 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:33:55 -0500...
..and Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "info" is a command in and of itself on RedHat systems, I don't know about
> other distribs.
It's a GNU utility. You'll find it on most half-decent Unix
distributions that come with any GNU programs. Even if it's just for
Emacs. It was around before Linux.
> Info pages are just text files (like man pages) that
> contain manual documentation for commands and files and libs and stuff.
No way! They are generated with TeX using a special macro package
called Texinfo, and you can generate pretty *books* from the same
source with just one command.
> The difference is that the "info" files are made using a different markup
> language that allows cross-reference links (kinda-like HTML).
>
> WHY we didn't just USE HTML and install "lynx" on peoples machines I will
> never know?!?!
Simple. Info was created because there was need for a hypertext help
system. But hey! At that time, HTML didn't even exist! Gosh.
> I think that the "info" command might actually just be a link to emacs
> console mode with the info
> tool loaded???
It wouldn't load that fast if it was.
mawa
--
Matthias Warkus | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dyson Spheres for sale!
My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Staffan H�m�l�)
Subject: Re: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:15:47 GMT
On 2 Feb 1999 09:02:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello) wrote:
>Installing the .rpm for WindowMaker 0.51 blew away my workspace background.
>Now it's just that ugly herringbone pattern from the default X root window.
>Nothing has changed in my WindowMaker pref file, in fact, changing the
>pref file does nothing.
>
>1) Is this happening to anyone else?
This happened to me too. I just made a new background using ee and
all worked as before.
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From: "John Hamlik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sybase ct-lib connecting to SqlServer 7.0
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:09:08 -0800
I am getting a invalid login error on the SqlServer7.0 console and a
unexepected EOF error on the linux side. Has anyone successfully connected
to SqlServer7.0 from ct-lib. This same install connects flawlessly to
SqlServer6.5.
Thanks,
MostToys
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howto create files...
Date: 02 Feb 1999 08:48:02 -0500
Joerg Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How can I create a empty (actually filled with zero's) file with a
> specified size ? I know there's is a command arround like this on
> Solaris, but coudn't find anything for Linux yet...
dd if=/dev/zero of=FILE bs=1k count=SIZE
Same as on Solaris.
-Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Teichert)
Subject: Re: SuSE 5.3 not compiling sources
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:34:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Walther Ligtvoet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hya there,
Hi!
>checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no
======================^^^
>... C++ compiler cannot create executables...
>I'm using gcc 2.7.2.1-6 on SuSE 5.3. Tried with kernel 2.0.35 and 2.2.0.
>Strange fact: kernel 2.2.0 compiles like a charm...
You need a C++ compiler. Either install the g++ matching your gcc
version or (better IMHO) install egcs (get a new one from ftp.cygnus.com).
HTH,
Uli
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Stormweg 24 |listening to: This Is Just A Punk Rock Song (Bad
24539 Neumuenster, Germany|Religion), Shadow (The Headcoatees)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Shells
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:57:48 -0800
Hello,
I am new to Linux and need some help. What is the best shell to use? Currently,
whenever I use crontab or tin, it defaults to using vi. I would prefer to use Pico
for these situations. How and where do I go about changing that setting? I am
currently using the bash shell.
Thanks,
Jeff
--
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Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Walther Ligtvoet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Shells
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:09:37 +0000
Hello Jeff,
Try adding the following line to your .bashrc:
EDITOR=/usr/bin/pico
Where i assume "/usr/bin/pico" is the correct path to pico.
Greetingz...
Walther Ligtvoet
" Why, in gods name, do you want to use THAT as an os ?!?!? "
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am new to Linux and need some help. What is the best shell to use? Currently,
>whenever I use crontab or tin, it defaults to using vi. I would prefer to use Pico
>for these situations. How and where do I go about changing that setting? I am
>currently using the bash shell.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> --
> -----
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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