Linux-Misc Digest #901, Volume #23 Sun, 19 Mar 00 22:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: I'm Lost!! New to Linux (Hal Burgiss)
Re: ok- fiixed-forget it-Re: Compiled pop3 simply wont work? Help? (Steve)
Re: Is turbolinux server available somewhere as a download or is this a commercial
distro only? (Steve)
Re: Older Dell Pentium 90 won't recognize 10G Hard Rive ("Buck Turgidson")
How do I get rid of LILO? ("Jon Davis")
Re: Windows 2000 Dynamic disks ("Jon Davis")
Re: Help - can't install gcc Package found on CD ("A Slater")
Re: I need Auction Software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
System Lockup using sound (Andrei Kibbe)
Re: zip drive, graphics card,alias (RB)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! (Dr Sinister)
Gnome Resolution ("Philip Lee")
Re: Help with Linux advocacy ("Jon Davis")
Re: Windows 2000 Dynamic disks ("Kart")
Re: Does KPilot work? (Rick)
Problems w/ ICQ & IPMasq ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! ("Greg Fortune")
Re: Do you hate vi? (Matt Chiglinsky)
Re: Gnome Resolution (Dances With Crows)
xmms problems after upgrade (Jesse F. Hughes)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: I'm Lost!! New to Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:23:58 GMT
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:24:54 GMT, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have installed Linux which went ok. I'm running a separate HD for
>Linux so I use a boot disk to launch Linux. That all works ok. I log on
>ok with name & passwd & I appear to go to XWindows . Blue background
>with 2 white boxes where my command line comes up.
>
>{ldweber@localhost /ldweber} $
>
>How do I get to an actuall desktop environment??
You are already there! Click on background and see if you don't get a
menu. You probably need to take some time to learn something about the
windowmanager so you can set it up to your liking. Sounds like a minimal
config.
What distro and version?
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: ok- fiixed-forget it-Re: Compiled pop3 simply wont work? Help?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Mar 2000 00:28:16 GMT
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:34:22 +1000, Robert Chalmers wrote:
>
>"Robert Chalmers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:hWVA4.47$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi,
>> has anyone successfully compiled and installed qpopper. (pop3) from
>qualcom
>> ?
>>
>> It compiles fine. No errors. but simply wont work.
>>
>> thanks for any help
>> Bob
Can we have a description of how 'not working' manifests itself in this
instance. A URL of where you got it from might help too, also the
exact program naem, how you're invoking it and any error messages/output
that you might be getting.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
2:07pm up 10:42, 6 users, load average: 2.07, 1.60, 1.50
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Is turbolinux server available somewhere as a download or is this a
commercial distro only?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Mar 2000 00:28:18 GMT
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:58:33 GMT, REMOVE_ME_TO_REPLY wrote:
>Is turbolinux server available somewhere as a download or is this a commercial
>distro only?
>
>I already have debian, redhat 6.1, turbolinux workstation and would like to
>try turbolinux server. If it is a download please let me know.
Linux by nature can be many things, presumably you've got all that you
need, you just need to turn all the server bits on for the bits you want,
you just need to do some research to find out how to set the various parts
up, it doesn't always involve installing anything new or making major
changes, but changing settings in existing config files and asking linux to
reread those files.
Hope this points you in the right direction, a book such as 'Running Linus'
(O'Reilly), is a good place to start, and all the information is in
one place.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
2:07pm up 10:42, 6 users, load average: 2.07, 1.60, 1.50
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Older Dell Pentium 90 won't recognize 10G Hard Rive
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:34:06 GMT
I also have a Dell P-90 (the chip with the "infamous" fault). I was able to
update the BIOS (for Y2k reasons). Call them or try their web-site. I
don't remember how I did it, but I am sure it was before I converted the
Dell to linux, so the patch they sent me was DOS-based. That may pose a
problem.
Vlar Schreidlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an older Dell Pentium 90 computer that I want to make into a
> Linux firewall box. I got a 10G hard drive for it, but the BIOS
> apparently won't recognize anything above 2G, so Linux Mandrake can't
> create the file system because no acceptable devices are recognized. I
> can't find any 2G drives new. How can I make this box recognize the
> larger drive so I can install Linux?
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From: "Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.win2000.beta.file_system,microsoft.public.win98.fat32
Subject: How do I get rid of LILO?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:47:01 GMT
A few months back I tried dual-booting between Win2k and Red Hat Linux 6.1.
Linux kept choking so I killed it. Now, a few months later, I'm trying to
dual-boot between Win2k and Win98 by switching boot-up drives in the BIOS,
where Win98 is going on the same hard drive that I had put Linux on before.
But I can't seem to be able to get rid of LILO. I have formatted the drive
from within Win2k and from within DOS, and I tried "fdisk /mbr" but still no
go. The whole Linux kernel seems to be booting, but bootup dies when it
tries to mount the file system since I formatted the drive.
What gives? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jon Davis
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From: "Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Dynamic disks
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:48:10 GMT
Wait?
Jon
"Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8b386u$ald$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to install Linux on a Windows 2000 system wich has Dynamic
> disks. These ones are not recognized by linux (neither by any partitioning
> tool I know).
>
> Some ideas to let Linux work on the same disks ???
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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From: "A Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help - can't install gcc Package found on CD
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:49:55 -0000
I found the package on the CD !!
disk 1, \mandrake\rpms\Pgcc-1_1.rpm
this seems to have loaded the gnu c compiler (checked using: gcc -v)
BTW I did download a package from internet but it then wanted gcc-cpp
package too.
Thanks to everyone.
Paul Cobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
>
> Problem solved - thanks for the pointers raised in this thread.
>
> It was still not clear WHICH rpm I needed to install, so I did an upgrade
of
> my installation & asked for all the development libararies possible. It
did
> install gcc but I am still unaware of which rpm contained gcc - I think
there
> is a command line rpm switch which will tell me which package gcc came
from.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I need Auction Software
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:48:08 GMT
try here:
http://www.needfulthings.net/mysql/demo/index.html
This software uses a mysql database backend. Seems to have all the
options of ebay...
Phil
In article <8942rb$7v8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need software that allows to make Auctions through Internet (like
> EBAY). It must be made in Perl or Java, and the transactions must be
> registered in a DB.
> Any help?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Kibbe)
Subject: System Lockup using sound
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:45:28 GMT
Although I am using Mandrake 7.0 this problem has occurred with the
6.0 version. When I am using the Mpeg player or the CD player in KDE,
for some unexplained reason the entire desktop will lockup solid. The
hard drive light stays on and the keyboard and mouse are frozen, a la
Windows. The only way I can get out of this situation is to power on
and off. I have a SoundBlaster AWE64 value card and the sound module
loaded as configured during the install of the system. Both of these
players will play and I can listen to either a CD or a Mp3. However,
at some point they will stop working, freezing the system.
I don't know if there is a problem with the hardware or the sound
driver that is being loaded. Since everything plays OK, I think that
it is setup properly. In order to find out if the driver is giving me
a problem I would need to load a different sound module other than the
one that comes with the operating system. I am aware of another sound
module that some other distributions use, OSS maybe.
Is it possible to not load the sound module that I have and try to
install another one with Mandrake 7.0. If this is possible then how
do I do this? Any help would be appreciated because my file system is
being ruined whenever I have to reboot.
Andrei
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From: RB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip drive, graphics card,alias
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:30:16 GMT
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>
>
> RB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : 1. I cannot get mandrake 6.0 to recognize a zip100. I have used
modprobe
> : ppa, insmod parport, insmod ppa, and various replies like "no ppa
devices
> : axvailable", "device or resource busy".
>
> Read the ZIP-HOWTO
>
>
> : 2. How do I reconfigure a new graphics card?
>
> edit your XF86Config or use any of the fine setup tools that do it for
> you. Read the X*-HOWTO.
>
> : 3. I used the alias command in bash, but I want it to remain when I
logout
> : or power down.
>
> man bash. Edit the appropriate dotfile. Probably .bash_profile.
>
> Peter
Thank you very much for the replies. I have taken care of the alias
problem, but I am having trouble accessing the mini-HOWTO's(yeah, I'm new
to this, but OS's beginning with a W aren't very good).
--
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
From: Dr Sinister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Mar 2000 20:36:20 -0500
Jim McBoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whilst I was pretending to study, RST wrote:
>
> > Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack) writes:
> <snipped>
> > @
> > @ Real hackers write their *own* tools.
> > @
> > @ In Emacs Lisp.
> >
> > in C.
> >
> In Obfuscated C ;-)
In INTERCAL.
--
M'bhdewy'a zimbleswi'nho ngui'bdlepny?
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From: "Philip Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome Resolution
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:41:31 -0500
I can't figure out how to change the resolution in gnome. It's WAY to small
and I want to get it to about 800x600. I clicked ' run configuration tool
for enlightenment ' and changed the screen to ' 1x1 ' but that didn't change
anything. The smartest computer guy I know installed the same stuff as I and
even he can't figure it out. HELP!!!
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From: "Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Linux advocacy
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:55:38 GMT
I couldn't help but chime in and note that your users might save money by
skimping on the computers, but at the cost of feeling micromanaged, in a
sense, by their IT guy. The concept of using X Windows or Windows NT
Terminal Server is quite popular *in theory* among IT admins, but it is
understandably unpopular in practice because, frankly, people want to use
nice, new Pentium III computers of their own, and will not stop short of
making all kinds of political noise if they have to use terminal nodes to a
shared server that won't even load Microsoft Word 2000 documents correctly.
Jon
"John Loukidels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I work in the corporate world where Linux is only a far off rumour, at
> least as far as the vast majority of users are concerned. To help me
> illustrate the power of Linux to my colleagues, if I were so
> inclined, I though I could give the following example.
>
> Let's assume I want to set up a small office computer system. Let's
> say there will be two consultants in the office and one secretary. It
> seems to me that I have two alternatives:
>
> 1. I could go out and buy three standard desktops loaded with the
> usual suspects when it comes to software (Win NT with MS Office).
> Total cost: about CDN$9,000. I'd have to network them, and because
> I'm not that technologically sophisticated, I would hire a
> consultant to do it for me. I don't know how much that would cost,
> but let's say it would be another CDN$1,000.
>
> 2. As an alternative, I could go out and buy one kick-ass machine, a
> Linux distribution that includes Netscape and StarOffice 5.1 and
> two legacy machines (say 486 66's with 24MB RAM each etc). My
> guess is that that would cost me about CDN$4,000. I would hire a
> Linux consultant to network the machines (also for CDN$1,000?) so
> that the legacy boxes would be X terminals used by the consultants.
> Not only is this solution much cheaper, but I get easier software
> administration, no-headache intra-office email, no-headache net
> access, no-headache file sharing, no-headache printer sharing etc.
> The question is, is it realistic to expect the kick-ass box to be
> able to run three X sessions where each session is running SO 5.1
> and Navigator (these programs are mighty big pigs after all)?
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> --
> John Loukidelis
>
>
>
>
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From: "Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Dynamic disks
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:12:14 +0100
"Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ezeB4.6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Wait?
Yes it can do the stuff ... But since Win2K betas are out for about a year
now I wonder if some patch official or not would be available ! I still need
to keep Windows for video editing and some 3D apps.
If Someone has an idea ... a real one !
Note : Please don't bother me with mails like : "Windows *ROCKS*" or "piss
off". Linux and Windows are not the same things. I need Linux and need
Windows. Can some understand that ???
>
> Jon
>
>
> "Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8b386u$ald$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to install Linux on a Windows 2000 system wich has Dynamic
> > disks. These ones are not recognized by linux (neither by any
partitioning
> > tool I know).
> >
> > Some ideas to let Linux work on the same disks ???
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
>
>
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Does KPilot work?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:19:51 -0500
Achim Woellgens wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 08:30:29 -0500, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> well, it works on my RHL 6.0 connected to com1!
> It s a normal pc with AMD K6 processor!
> >Does anyone have KPilot working. I have tried it on my Mac and my Compaq
> >laptop. All I ever get is a message that the Daemon cant connect to the
> >Pilot. I have set the /dev/pilot link to the appropriate ports on each,
> >but cant get a connection.
Well, I just got my internal modem working... maybe that is a good sign.
--
Rick
* To email me remove NOSPAM from my address *
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems w/ ICQ & IPMasq
Date: 19 Mar 2000 20:17:06 -0600
Some one told me that there is a kernel module (similar to the ftp,
irc, quake modules) that properly supports ICQ. Does anyone know if
this is true and if so what kernel is it in? I am using 2.2.14 on
RH6.1 Oh....my ICQ problems consist of not being able to make
direct connections, no file transfers possible and some messages have
to be sent through the server.
Thanks,
Don
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From: "Greg Fortune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:49:52 -0800
Ah, come on guys. We ALL know that writing it entirely in assembly would
make the program run much faster ;)
Greg Fortune
Dr Sinister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jim McBoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Whilst I was pretending to study, RST wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack) writes:
> > <snipped>
> > > @
> > > @ Real hackers write their *own* tools.
> > > @
> > > @ In Emacs Lisp.
> > >
> > > in C.
> > >
> > In Obfuscated C ;-)
>
> In INTERCAL.
>
>
> --
> M'bhdewy'a zimbleswi'nho ngui'bdlepny?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Chiglinsky)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: 20 Mar 2000 02:52:01 GMT
On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 05:51:18 GMT, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8817fe$9j7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Lots of discussion here.
>> It supports what I said in another thread:
>> if you learned on vi, you love it.
>> else, you hate it.
>
>Just as with all other blanket statements, this one is wrong. And stupid.
>
>
>
I write my C and lisp code in "emacs".
I write my Unix config file in "vi".
I write my DOS config files in "edit".
I write my Windows config files in "notepad".
I write my large (heh) Windows config files in "wordpad".
I write my papers in "Word".
Did someone say _one_ editor is best? Slap them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Gnome Resolution
Date: 19 Mar 2000 21:54:05 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:41:31 -0500, Philip Lee
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I can't figure out how to change the resolution in gnome. It's WAY to small
>and I want to get it to about 800x600. I clicked ' run configuration tool
First, try pressing Ctrl-Alt-(Keypad-Minus) and Ctrl-Alt-(Keypad-Plus).
Second, try running the Xfree86 configuration tool that came with your
distribution. RedHat and Mandrake use "Xconfigurator", SuSE uses "SaX",
Debian uses "XF86Setup". Become root and run one of those programs, then
answer its questions. As a last resort, try entering the command
"xf86config" as root--this will ask you a series of questions in a text
console, and write up an XF86Config file the X-Server will use.
You didn't post your graphics card model. I must warn you that some video
cards, most notably the cheaper Trident and SiS cards, are a royal pain in
the arse to get working under Linux. If you're still having trouble after
trying the basic stuff above, post the exact make+model of your video
card, the distro you're using, and any error messages you received before
to the comp.os.linux.hardware NG.
>anything. The smartest computer guy I know installed the same stuff as I and
>even he can't figure it out. HELP!!!
Find some smarter computer guys, then :-/ This basic X-configuring stuff
is usually covered in the manual that comes with your distro...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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Subject: xmms problems after upgrade
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesse F. Hughes)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:00:25 GMT
Hey ho.
I upgraded to Slackware 7.0 last night, and my xmms no longer works.
I have xmms 1.0.1 and I installed pretty much *all* of the
distribution.
Since then, xmms gives me nothing but "Segmentation fault". I have
recompiled it a dozen times, even going so far as deleting the source
tree and re-installing it. Everything in the configuration looks
okay.
I'm clueless how to find out what's wrong. How do I even start
looking? Any help would be appreciated.
--
Jesse Hughes
"You see 300 of something, anything, and you go `[Man], that's a lot of
stuff.'" -- Jim Bigler, quoted in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
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