Linux-Misc Digest #922, Volume #23 Wed, 22 Mar 00 09:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: How to turn X window autostart off? (Simon White)
I Broke It (Raquel Rice)
flexbackup corrupting archives (Kirk Freeman)
Re: staroffice running slowly (Karel Jansens)
LILO (Mohammed Khalid Ansari)
Re: I want to learn UNIX. I'd like to know what product of Linux I could use? (Lee
Sau Dan)
Installing RedHat 6.0 with a non bootable CDROM (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?=
Cottalorda)
Re: LAN transfer speed (Mike Schoppe)
Re: Can't Download Tar Files (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: staroffice running slowly ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: LILO ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: User password required to reboot (Brian Moore)
HP printer ("hallg3")
Re: Can't Download Tar Files ("Mark Johnson")
Can't ping out from RH 6.1 (Carter Braxton)
Re: Red Hat install problem (Chris Lowth)
Re: I Broke It (Yan Seiner)
Re: Can't ping out from RH 6.1 ("Peter T. Breuer")
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
From: Simon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to turn X window autostart off?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:35:07 +0000
> Sorry, i know i should read the documentation first but could someone
> tell me how to turn the autostart to X window when logging into Linux?
> I'm using RH6.1.
>
> Regards
> the newbie
try "linuxconf"
Or read the documentation :-)
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From: Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I Broke It
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:42:59 -0800
I've had RH 6.1 installed for a little over a week and
everything was going well. This afternoon I figured out why
the printer wasn't working and then I had a printer. I was
on top of the world!
Then I broke it. I opened up an application (Gnumeric
spreadsheet) and opened up the printer setup for the
program. I was looking around to see what was there. Then
for a reason that is unknown to me, everything locked up.
Nothing worked. No key presses. No mouse clicks. No
getting anywhere. Even the good ol' 3-finger salute didn't
work. The only thing that was left was (please don't yell),
the reset button.
Now when I type "/usr/bin/lpr -Plp /etc/passwd" into the
shell, I get an error message,
"/usr/bin/lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon."
What did I break and how do I go about fixing it?
Thanks for your help!
--
Raquel
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It's better to be known by six people for something you're
proud of than by 60 million for something you're not.
-- Albert Brooks
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From: Kirk Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: flexbackup corrupting archives
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:20:43 -0800
Hi,
I'm trying to use flexbackup on Redhat 6.1 and everything seems fine
except the file archives. I've tried both afio and tar. Other options
used include gzip, blksize=64, archive to file.
Has anyone heard of similar problems?
Thanks in advance,
Kirk Freeman
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Subject: Re: staroffice running slowly
Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:03:44 GMT
Edward M Grill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> its HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to have at minimum of 64Megs of RAM just to run X
> windows. then on top of that you are running a JAVA based app. you are
> asking too much from your system. buy some more RAM and that may help a lot.
>
Are you on some kind of drug? Or maybe running Windows?
X will run smoothly in as little as 16 MB RAM or even below. In fact,
when properly set up, KDE runs without hickups on 24 MB of RAM
(version 1.0). I know, because I've done this (even worse, I've done
it on a Pentium 60!).
Granted, StarOffice is not modest in its memory requirements, but 48
MB should be sufficient to make it workable. And it is by no means a
"Java based app"! Sheesh!
"Buy more RAM" is the standard advice to anyone running whatever
flavour of Windows, but thankfully other operating systems give the
user more (and saner) options...
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
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"How to make God laugh?"
"Tell Him your plans."
(paraphrased from "Foundation's Fear" - Gregory Benford)
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From: Mohammed Khalid Ansari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:34:04 GMT
HI,
I am wondering on the following point.
1)It is independent of the file system. You can use LILO with DOS, UNIX,
OS/2, and Windows NT.
2) what is a map file?
3) what happens exactly (step by step) when the system boots up?
Please answer the above asked queries asap.
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From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to learn UNIX. I'd like to know what product of Linux I could use?
Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:55:44 +0800
>>>>> "Adam" == Adam C Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Adam> My main problem with RedHat is that I know too many people
Adam> who install it, and don't even know what ifconfig, route, or
Adam> even fsck is for, so when something goes wrong, they're
Adam> stuck.
Even under RedHat (I use RedHat at work but Slackware at home), you
can still fire up a command prompt and issue the "ifconfig", "route",
"netstat", "find /tmp -atime +30 -exec rm {} \;", etc. That the nice
GUI/TUI wraps around them doesn't mean they are unavailable.
So, you can just go ahead. RedHat gets you a ready-to-use system
quickly. From there on, you can explore your wonderland. (Of course,
the starting point is already so comfortable that it diminishes your
intention to do your adventure.)
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Cottalorda
Subject: Installing RedHat 6.0 with a non bootable CDROM
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:14:45 +0100
Hi all,
Can anybody help me to solve my problem ?
I've an old PC that is not able to boot from his CDROM (only HD or FD ar
allowed by the BIOS)
I've a RedHat 6.0 install cdrom.
How can I run the install program that is on the CDROM ?
(I've partitionned my 10Go Hard Disk in two parts : one for Windows 98
(yet installed) and another one for Linux)
Thanks in advance.
Sebastien
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From: Mike Schoppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LAN transfer speed
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:24:33 -0700
Are you certain that you are using a true crossover cable?
Mike Schoppe
Frenzy Killa wrote:
>
> I'm having low transfer speeds between two computers connected through a
> single twisted pair cable.
>
> One of them is a dual Celeron 366MHz on an ABit BP6 with 128MB RAM, an IBM
> DeskStar 34GXP 27GB 7200RPM U-ATA/66 and a 3Com 3C905C 10/100 NIC running
> Windows 2000 Pro. The other is a Pentium 200MHz with 32MB RAM, a Quantum
> Fireball ST 6.4GB 5400RPM(not really sure about this) and a 3Com 3C905C
> 10/100 NIC running Red Hat 6.1.
>
> When I download files from the linux ftp-server to the Win2K box I get a
> speed varying between 1500KB/s and 2500KB/s. This to me seems low but still
> ok. However when uploading I get a constant speed of 131KB/s. This is
> extremely low and totally unacceptable considering that the two boxes are
> connected solely through a single TP-cable without sending data through
> hubs, switches or the Internet.
>
> I've tried changing the hard drive and NIC in the Linux box to different
> brands and models, but still I get the same results. I have also installed
> the latest kernel(2.2.14) getting the same upload rate but an even lower
> download rate(about 400-550KB/s). I've also tried the latest NIC drivers
> from 3Com without further improvement.
>
> I'm quite a Linux newbie, but I do know these rates are way below average
> for systems with this sort of hardware. Someone please help me with this.
> It'd be a real pity having a Linux server without being able to use its full
> potential. I'd really appriciate any help I can get.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Can't Download Tar Files
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 00 11:44:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan Schaumann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Binyomin Kaplan wrote:
>Maybe file-naming conventions on Winblows interfer?
>Just save as foo.tar or foo.tar.gz (ie, short name), and it should
>work...
Windows makes a mess of the filenames: it replaces all dots in the name,
except the last with underscores. xxx.tar.gz -> xxx_tar.gz. This is easy to
correct but it is better to download from linux (when you have a good browser
:-( )
Succes,
__________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice running slowly
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:49:17 GMT
Karel Jansens <jansens_at_ibm_dot_net> wrote:
: Edward M Grill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Are you on some kind of drug? Or maybe running Windows?
Gimme some (of the former).
: X will run smoothly in as little as 16 MB RAM or even below. In fact,
True.
: when properly set up, KDE runs without hickups on 24 MB of RAM
: (version 1.0). I know, because I've done this (even worse, I've done
: it on a Pentium 60!).
That's difficult. You'd have to be very careful. I reckon that it
probably needs about 24MB to itself avoid touching swap. At 64MB ram
you're singing.
: Granted, StarOffice is not modest in its memory requirements, but 48
: MB should be sufficient to make it workable. And it is by no means a
Not so. It is converted from NT. It doesn't know too much about
sharing. On a 1GB ram machine I saw staroffice using 500MB! I am
feeling more comfortable now I have upgraded my portable 300MHz to
128MB, but I still don't like using staroffice on it. Too slow.
It takes my 450MHz workstation and lots of ram to make it feel anything
like snappy.
: "Buy more RAM" is the standard advice to anyone running whatever
: flavour of Windows, but thankfully other operating systems give the
: user more (and saner) options...
Sure. Don't use staroffice :-). Or buy a faster disk.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:49:47 GMT
Mohammed Khalid Ansari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: HI,
: I am wondering on the following point.
: 1)It is independent of the file system. You can use LILO with DOS, UNIX,
: OS/2, and Windows NT.
: 2) what is a map file?
: 3) what happens exactly (step by step) when the system boots up?
: Please answer the above asked queries asap.
Read the lilo docs and find out. Reading problem?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: User password required to reboot
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:09:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8b93jl$dhl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan Burns <aburns@!SPAMTRAP.ebicom.net> wrote:
...
>
>I just meant that he was being a bit presumptuous by assuming to
>know what the original poster's users should and shouldn't be
>doing on the system. Obviously, there is some need for users to
>be able to shut down, or the question wouldn't have been asked.
>
>That's not helpful at all. A better answer is, "Here's how to fix it....."
>and not, "You don't need that." That's the kind of answer one might
>get from Microsoft. :-0
And I agree with you. And I have an example of a common case where
you would want users to be shutting down, not root. I have set up
a Linux system at home, and due to hardware configurations, it is the
only computer in the house which can connect to an ISP (this is a
temporary condition.. but anyhow). The other family members have accounts
and use it. There are times when they need to shutdown to move the
computer (its a laptop), but I DON'T want them to have to be root
to do it.
A similar pet peeve I have is whenever anyone posts here, distraught from
someone having recently hacked into their system, no matter what the
details of the situation, the first response is to berate them and
inform them that it was their own fault. In some cases there may be
some truth to this (although I *don't* ascribe to the the philosophy
that many seem to hold here that if even the tiniest security
hole is left open, somehow the one doing the cracking is entirely
justified in coming in and doing whatever they like...) but it
is annoying nonetheless.
--
Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , (814)-898-6334
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From: "hallg3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP printer
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:06:58 +0100
Hello !
I am a beginner at Linux, and I have a question about printer configuration.
I choosed a printer in YAST, but I can't use it in KDE (StarOffice), or
anywhere. Please help me.
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From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't Download Tar Files
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:02:45 -0600
"Binyomin Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Can anyone think of a reason why an http download of a tar
> file on a computer running windows would change it in some way,
> making it unusable? I have a computer without a modem running
> linux. Sometimes I download files for it on the windows computer,
> and it doesn't seem that it was ever a problem to then
> use the files on my linux computer, but now I don't seem to be
> able to untar the files. Winzip doesn't seem to be able to do anything
> with them under Windows either.
When you downloaded, did you remember to set the 'binary'
option in ftp? tar archives, even those of all ASCII files, don't
like being downloaded as ASCII. It will almost certainly munge
the checksum and make it impossible to un-tar.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carter Braxton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Can't ping out from RH 6.1
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:43:31 GMT
I decided to give Linux a try, being pretty sick and tired of crashes
with Windows. So I got Red Hat 6.1 from cheapbytes.com and installed it
on an old 486DX2-66 with 32 Meg RAM and 700 Meg HD to play around with.
(I won't be running X.)
Everything went smoothly, except that the system can't reach the network
it's connected to. Can't ping anything. I don't think it's a hardware
problem since "eth0" initializes OK on boot, and the same SMC ethernet card
and ethernet connection work from Windows.
I've read HOW-TOs that address networking and as far as I can tell things
are configured correctly, but obviously something is amiss that I've
overlooked. Suggestions of what that may be would be greatly appreciated!
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http://www.save-a-patriot.org/census/census.html
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From: Chris Lowth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat install problem
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:32:58 +0000
Sorry for the delay -- been busy!
Hmm..
How old is this box? I wonder whether you have the old "drive too big for
bios" issue. Have you tried using a "/boot" partition? It should be the
first partition on the drive, and be approx 25Mb. This forces the vmlinuz
etc to be near the start of the drive, thus ensuring that LILO can find
them on older bios machines (and some newer ones too).
The other thing to watch is the "linear" option for LILO. I know redhat
asks whether you want to set this. Try "yes" as the answer.
Finally. If you provided any scsi module parameters by hand during the
install, try supplying the same at the lilo prompt when it boots from HDU
after the install. You really want to get them into lilo.conf and
re-lilo. So you should supply them at the "lilo configuration" screen of
the installation tool.
I have never used SuSE, but I expect the same conciderations apply.
Chris.
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, John Zumsteg wrote:
> I just tried yet another custom install, setting up the partitions this
> way:
>
> / sda1 1850mb native
> /usr1 sda5 1859mb native
> /usr2 sda6 258mb native
> /usr3 sda7 258mb native
> sda8 70mb swap
>
> The partitions are those set up by a previous (unsuccessful, of course)
> installation using the Server selection. I simply added the mount
> points. Again, the boot proceeded until it said no inittab was found,
> asked me for a runlevel and then died when I entered on.
>
> Hope this helps. I have (almost) no doubt that this has something to do
> with using scsi drives, but I sure don't know what.
>
> John
>
>
> Chris Lowth wrote:
> > systems, etc - anything hard disk related. Ideally - let's see the lot!
> >
>
--
>From Chris Lowth
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My Real e-mail address is (roughly):
chris
<AT> lowth
<DOT> com
(Silly over-parnoid anti-spam measure)
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I Broke It
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:54:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This has been rehashed in the past. Basically, there is a lock file or
something else gumming up the works.
Time for some not-so-radical surgery:
# killall lpd
that should kill all lpd daemons (if any)
go into /var/locks and delete all lpd lock files.
go into /var/spool/lpd/[printerspooldir] and delete everyting there.
make sure lpd is not running:
# ps auxw | grep lpd
should produce a blank. If not, repeat above ad nauseum.
now rerun lpd:
# lpd
and try that print job.
--Yan
Raquel Rice wrote:
>
> I've had RH 6.1 installed for a little over a week and
> everything was going well. This afternoon I figured out why
>
> the printer wasn't working and then I had a printer. I was
> on top of the world!
>
> Then I broke it. I opened up an application (Gnumeric
> spreadsheet) and opened up the printer setup for the
> program. I was looking around to see what was there. Then
> for a reason that is unknown to me, everything locked up.
> Nothing worked. No key presses. No mouse clicks. No
> getting anywhere. Even the good ol' 3-finger salute didn't
> work. The only thing that was left was (please don't yell),
>
> the reset button.
>
> Now when I type "/usr/bin/lpr -Plp /etc/passwd" into the
> shell, I get an error message,
> "/usr/bin/lpr: connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon."
>
> What did I break and how do I go about fixing it?
>
> Thanks for your help!
> --
> Raquel
> =============================================================
>
> It's better to be known by six people for something you're
> proud of than by 60 million for something you're not.
> -- Albert Brooks
--
Think different
ride a recumbent
use Linux.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can't ping out from RH 6.1
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:48:09 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Carter Braxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I've read HOW-TOs that address networking and as far as I can tell things
: are configured correctly, but obviously something is amiss that I've
: overlooked. Suggestions of what that may be would be greatly appreciated!
Read them again. If you don't tell us anything, we can't tell you
anything. Show us the output from /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route -n.
I'd make rwandom guesses as to what you've misconfigured if you like,
but why should I, without data?
Peter
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