Linux-Misc Digest #925, Volume #23 Wed, 22 Mar 00 16:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: monitor configuration (Gerald Willmann)
newbie question: rm.... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't ping out from RH 6.1 (Carter Braxton)
Re: I Broke It (Raquel Rice)
Re: Do you hate vi? (Steven Whatley)
afbackup.deb install on RedHat? ("Bob Cent")
unmounting a harddrive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Shell Accounts (Marc D. Williams)
Re: staroffice running slowly ("Jeff Susanj")
Re: Linux Shell Accounts (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
PPP Error ^JRejected^J^M (Stu)
Can wine handle kid's games? (Harlan Grove)
Re: unmounting a harddrive (Andres Soolo)
Re: unmounting a harddrive (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Can't ping out from RH 6.1 ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: newbie question: rm.... (Leonard Evens)
Re: User password required to reboot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Browser based email - Specifics ("John Arnott - PDbS, Inc.")
Re: Do you hate vi? (Otto Wyss)
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: monitor configuration
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:09:35 -0800
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Default User wrote:
> I have just installed Mandrake Linux 6.5 on my PC, which came with 17 in
> monitor (Acer G772, 0.25dpi) capable of running true color(32bit) at
> 1280x1024 under windows environment. My computer also has a 16mb AGP
> video card. But during the installation, the x-configurator
> automatically probed the monitor and determine that the monitor can only
> work at 8bit and 600x480 display size. The icons are so big that it make
> me feel like I am 70 years old with vision disability.
> So how can I change this setting after installation? Especially is there
> a way to do so in the x-environment (KDE, GNOME)?
> Any help is very much appreciated.
look at your XF86Config file (should be in /etc/X11, otherwise locate with
locate XF86Config). Spend some hours understanding that file with the help
of the XFree86-howto which you find at the linux documentation project on
the web. Then start experimenting with different modelines (by then you
know what these are). You can generate them on the web at
http://www.inria.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines
To experiment you should have init level set to 3 not 5 (ie console is the
default and X doesn't start automatically). You achieve that by editing
the file inittab (_careful_ here) and changing it from 5 to 3 and
rebooting if it's not 3. Also you might want to start X probing only and
redirect the output to a file to analyze (cf. book runnig linux). If some
experiment goes bad, ie you don't see anything, do CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to
kill the Xserver and start over. Hope this helps,
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: newbie question: rm....
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:04:51 GMT
just installed new 20gb harddrive in linux apache webserver.
rdy to delete old copy.
am i correct in assuming that the proper way to delete the old copy and
not the new one is to umount the new drive while the old drive is
mounted, rm the files, and remount the new drive??
thanx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carter Braxton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can't ping out from RH 6.1
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:21:12 GMT
On 22 Mar 2000 13:48:09 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Read them again. If you don't tell us anything, we can't tell you
>anything. Show us the output from /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route -n.
You're right of course. My only excuse is that I had some vain hope that
perhaps someone else might have done a RH 6.1 install and run into a
similar problem. (Sometimes you get lucky and find someone who can
say, "Oh yeah, that happened to me, this is how I fixed it.")
I'll pony up more info when I get the chance, for now other work has
come up that has higher priority.
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From: Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I Broke It
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:26:57 -0800
Yan,
I'm sorry this has been rehashed in the past. I've only been using Linux
for 10 days and am trying to learn instead of relying on a GUI to do
everything for me.
I've done everything suggested 3 or 4 times and continue to get the same
error:
/usr/bin/lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
Since I'm so new using Linux I'm not really familiar with were everything
is or how it all works yet. Could I have messed something else up?
Thank you again for your help.
Raquel Rice
Yan Seiner wrote:
> This has been rehashed in the past. Basically, there is a lock file or
> something else gumming up the works.
>
> Time for some not-so-radical surgery:
>
> # killall lpd
>
> that should kill all lpd daemons (if any)
>
> go into /var/locks and delete all lpd lock files.
>
> go into /var/spool/lpd/[printerspooldir] and delete everyting there.
>
> make sure lpd is not running:
>
> # ps auxw | grep lpd
>
> should produce a blank. If not, repeat above ad nauseum.
>
> now rerun lpd:
>
> # lpd
>
> and try that print job.
>
> --Yan
>
> Raquel Rice wrote:
> >
> > I've had RH 6.1 installed for a little over a week and
> > everything was going well. This afternoon I figured out why
> >
> > the printer wasn't working and then I had a printer. I was
> > on top of the world!
> >
> > Then I broke it. I opened up an application (Gnumeric
> > spreadsheet) and opened up the printer setup for the
> > program. I was looking around to see what was there. Then
> > for a reason that is unknown to me, everything locked up.
> > Nothing worked. No key presses. No mouse clicks. No
> > getting anywhere. Even the good ol' 3-finger salute didn't
> > work. The only thing that was left was (please don't yell),
> >
> > the reset button.
> >
> > Now when I type "/usr/bin/lpr -Plp /etc/passwd" into the
> > shell, I get an error message,
> > "/usr/bin/lpr: connect: Connection refused
> > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon."
> >
> > What did I break and how do I go about fixing it?
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> > --
> > Raquel
> > =============================================================
> >
> > It's better to be known by six people for something you're
> > proud of than by 60 million for something you're not.
> > -- Albert Brooks
>
> --
>
> Think different
> ride a recumbent
> use Linux.
--
Raquel
=============================================================
It's better to be known by six people for something you're proud of than by 60 million
for something you're not.
-- Albert Brooks
Cross-Stitcher
http://www.yellowline.com/cross-stitcher/index.shtml
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From: Steven Whatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Crossposted-To: comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:36:47 GMT
In comp.unix.misc termite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, in emergencies, I have a DOS boot floppy with vim on it - and in
> my linux system, I vote for vim every time. I can write a file with only a
> few (around 10) commands and don't get a headache from trying to remember
> C-x C-@#$% C-AARGH!!
We all know what Emacs stands for: Esc+Meta+Alt+Ctrl+Shift. :) BTW, I am
an avid XEmacs user. I even have the XEmacs-NT installed at work (WinNT)
and home (Win2k).
kLater,
Steven
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From: "Bob Cent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: afbackup.deb install on RedHat?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:25:45 -0800
Reply-To: "Bob Cent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi all,
I want to test backup utility afbackup on my RedHat server. The problem is
that afbackup is distributed as a .deb file. Both kpackage and alien failed
for me.
The KDE kpackage utility exited without warning while processing afbackup.
I also tried alien (alien -r afbackup_3_1beta1-1_1.deb) and it failed too
and gave this message:
alien : rpm --show rc failed
Any suggestions what to do?
_____________________________
Bob Cent
University of Washington
Box 357330
Seattle, WA 98195-7330
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice: 206.543.1433
fax: 206.685.0305
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unmounting a harddrive
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:39:02 GMT
i am attempting to unmount a hard drive (/dev/hda3)
when typing "umount /dev/hda3"
i get message "umount: /: device is busy"
how do i "unbusy" the device so i can umount it??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: Linux Shell Accounts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:51:10 GMT
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:30:38 -0000, Fuze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
> Can anyone setup me up with a Linux shell account, or point me in the
>right direction where to get one ?
>
Just install Linux and you'll have your shell account. Neat, eh?
If you don't want to tackle partitioning and all that stuff to install
it then get one of those distros designed to run on top of FAT such
as WinLinux or whatever it's called.
--
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover
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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice running slowly
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:42:43 GMT
Go get a Kaypro II computer (2 Mhz Z80) running CP/M 2.2 and then use
Wordstar for a while. After waiting for the floppy drives to grind a way
for a while, Star Office will look like it is flying. All things are
relative.
Jeff S.
Alexis Bilodeau wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Richard Steiner wrote:
>>
>> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Jorge Ravazzola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> spake unto us, saying:
>>
>> >hi , im trying staroffice for linux under red hat 6.0 and it haves a
>> >really poor performance on my pentium 233 with 32 mb ram .Is this a
>> >common problem among staroffice users or it is just me and my machine,
>> >and if it so, could anyone give a clue of where to start loooking for
>> >the problem? thank you very much
>>
>> StarOffice is a huge monolithic program, and 32MB is really pushing the
>> bottom end as far as RAM is concerned (partiuclarly if you're using a
>> relatively heavy desktop environment like KDE).
>>
>> I would suggest buying another 32MB of RAM.
>>
>> --
>> -Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>> OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
>> + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>> I used to have a life... Now I have a computer!
>I have a pIII - 450 with 64 Mb RAM and StarOffice drives me crazy...
>Using another program is the best solution...
>--
>Alexis Bilodeau
> ----
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: Linux Shell Accounts
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:57:41 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marc D. Williams:
|> On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:30:38 -0000, Fuze:
|> >Hi
|> >
|> > Can anyone setup me up with a Linux shell account, or point me in the
|> >right direction where to get one ?
|> >
|> Just install Linux and you'll have your shell account. Neat, eh?
[Snip...]
http://workspot.com
[Snip...]
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: PPP Error ^JRejected^J^M
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:01:42 GMT
I am trying to connect to my ISP (using a UUNET dial in) using KPPP, but
whenever it tries to log on to the network the pppd daemon dies. KPPP
says the server returns the message "^JRejected^J^M". I have tried using
PAP and CHAP. I don't have any problem using my normal dial in. Does
anyone know what the error means ?
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can wine handle kid's games?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:05:23 -0800
My home PC has both Linux and Win95. My kids are getting
better at using Linux, and they can't screw up my files
under Linux. However, they've accumulated a few dozen CD-
based games over the years. Am I kidding myself that I
might be able to run them under wine? I'm ready to
experiment, but if anyone knows of any problems, work-
arounds I'd be grateful.
Anyone want to guess how long it will be until children's
educational and game software reaches Linux?
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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unmounting a harddrive
Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:24:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i am attempting to unmount a hard drive (/dev/hda3)
> when typing "umount /dev/hda3"
> i get message "umount: /: device is busy"
> how do i "unbusy" the device so i can umount it??
A device is considered busy when some files on it are open or running.
Surely you've got /bin/umount running on / when trying to unmount the
root filesystem :-)
The best you can do for root filesystem is to remount it read/only:
# mount -r -n -o remount /
Then again, why would you need to unmount your root filesystem?
If you're doing it to convert your system to a new harddisk (as you
said in another thread), then it would probably be better to boot
the system up from your new root filesystem. If you're using LILO,
the root=/dev/xyz command line option comes in handy. (Note that
you also should configure LILO to boot from the new partition
permanently and don't forget to install the LILO boot loader after
reconfiguring, or cryptic problems may happen.)
So, the short procedure would be:
1. reboot the machine and give the kernel a new root= value.
This loads the kernel from the OLD harddisk but mounts your NEW
filesystem as root.
2. Now you're booted up in your new environment. Reconfigure LILO
and reinstall the LILO boot loader.
3. Now you're booted up and capable to boot from your new harddisk.
No need to boot, but a little testing never hurts :-)
Note that the harddisk reordering may complicate things a bit.
--
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CORRUPT:
In politics, holding an office of trust or profit.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unmounting a harddrive
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:27:05 -0800
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i am attempting to unmount a hard drive (/dev/hda3)
> when typing "umount /dev/hda3"
> i get message "umount: /: device is busy"
> how do i "unbusy" the device so i can umount it??
first of all /dev/hda3 is not a harddrive but rather a partition thereon.
secondly, what's on hda3 and what's to mount point (ie /, /usr, ...)?
Gerald
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can't ping out from RH 6.1
Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:24:50 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Carter Braxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 22 Mar 2000 13:48:09 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Read them again. If you don't tell us anything, we can't tell you
:>anything. Show us the output from /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route -n.
: You're right of course. My only excuse is that I had some vain hope that
: perhaps someone else might have done a RH 6.1 install and run into a
: similar problem. (Sometimes you get lucky and find someone who can
: say, "Oh yeah, that happened to me, this is how I fixed it.")
I know what you're after, but his advice is NOT likely to work for you,
because you have done something wrong. It's anyone's guess what you
have done wrong. Any thing at all could produce "cannot ping network".
For example you may have messed up your DNS so that name to IP
translation may not work. You may not have set a route to your net.
You may not even have a working card. Have you tried listening on the
interface with tcpdump to see if you are receiving anything? These
are the steps any competent person would take. If you choose to listen
to people who don't do that, then you are putting yourself in the hands
of the incompetent.
My guess would be that what you mean by "local network" is not what the
rest of the world means and that your windows boxes are not set up for
tcp/ip. So they won't reply. Or you may not have a working card yet.
We can't tell.
: I'll pony up more info when I get the chance, for now other work has
: come up that has higher priority.
You are not being asked for anything very difficult! Just execute
the commands
/sbin/ifconfig > /tmp/foo
/sbin/route -n >> /tmp/foo
cp /tmp/foo /dosc/foo
flip to windows or whatever you have on the machine, and mail or post
the file.
Peter
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question: rm....
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:08:37 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> just installed new 20gb harddrive in linux apache webserver.
> rdy to delete old copy.
>
> am i correct in assuming that the proper way to delete the old copy and
> not the new one is to umount the new drive while the old drive is
> mounted, rm the files, and remount the new drive??
>
> thanx
Instead, I would create a new mount point, call it /old_mount.
Then mount the old partition on that mount point with
mount /dev/XXXX /old_mount
Then cd /old_mount and delete the files. If you use a recursive
delete, make sure it doesn't follow symbolic links because it
could delete things in other partitions.
If you plan to repartition and entire old disk, you can just do
it by running fdisk or cfdisk and delete all the partitions from
that disk. Then you can make new partitions, new file systems,
and you won't have to bother removing files.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: User password required to reboot
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:35:57 GMT
In article <%lDB4.76$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein) wrote:
> Normal users are not supposed to do that.
>
I thought GNOME asks for the root password, not the logged-in user's.
But I could be wrong...
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Before you buy.
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From: "John Arnott - PDbS, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Browser based email - Specifics
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:52:54 GMT
My goal is mobility. Many people accomplish this goal with Yahoo mail and
Hotmail. I would like for my company email system to be accessible via a
browser as well.
We travel frequently and are often at client sites on client PCs. Using a
browser, I can still review my archived mail as well as new mail.
Lotus Domino accomplishes this goal, but I am looking for alternatives.
Thanks,
John Arnott
John Arnott - PDbS, Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ym7C4.117$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there software available for Linux that allows pop mail users to check
> and maintain their mail boxes via a browser? I reviewed Lotus Domino, but
I
> am considering less expensive alternatives.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> John Arnott
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:11:11 +0100
> Oh hey, what the heck to Mac users use? It must feel mightly strange
> going from a one-button mouse to vi. heh ;) Mac users?
I used to write everthing in "1stWord" (Atari)
I write small config files in "simpletext" (Mac)
I write docs in "Word 6" (Mac)
I write the rest in "BBedit" (Mac)
I write small config files in "notepad" (Win)
I write large config files in "wordpad" (Win)
I write docs in "Office97" in (Win)
I try to write anything in "vi" (Linux), if I want to copy/paste lines
I try to write anything in "emacs" (Linux), if I don't need copy/paste
What a perfect world I had with the Atari ;-)
O. Wyss
PS. Besides I use a 3-button-mouse (only 2 active) on the Mac. Also I
use the identical mouse (and keyboard) under Win98/Linux on my PC as
well.
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