Linux-Misc Digest #940, Volume #23 Fri, 24 Mar 00 10:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Is Linux good for Data Centers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how modify apache httpd startup call??? (Robert Heller)
Re: Can I use linux??? (Robert Heller)
Re: IMAP (Koos Pol)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (John
Loukidelis)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Henrik
Becker)
New to Linux: Help! (User)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Sacha
Kaercher)
Real player 7 on SuSE (6.2) (Roberto Maria Avanzi Mocenigo)
Re: Can I use linux??? (Jeff Roediger)
Re: How to install new applications??? (J.M. Paden)
expert mode and drivers disks for rh6.1 install (Allen Ahoffman)
Help: access denied to device ttyS1(serial port COM1) in SusE Linux 6.3 (George Bell)
Question: writing or getting hold of a dial-up script (George Bell)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Re: Help: access denied to device ttyS1(serial port COM1) in SusE Linux 6.3 (Henrik
Becker)
Ethernet via USB adapter ? (Bjorn Leffler)
eth0 Operation Failed!!! (brad)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Allin
Cottrell)
Re: MP3 ripping and (en)decoding? (Allin Cottrell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,sg.linux
Subject: Re: Is Linux good for Data Centers?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:04:48 GMT
client or server?
As clients they kick-ass, small, fast, works on crud hardware, (anyone
with a datacenter has just tons and tons of this crap piled up
somewhere) can work with just about any mainframe or terminal type. No
worries about people installing their own wacky software, or breaking
the box by deleting files. Plus all the joys of remote management.
As servers, it depends on what programs you're running. You might have
lots of problems trying to get someone to port it over for you, assuming
your vendor will even consider such a thing.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Anyone out there ever tried using Linux for data centers? Any advice
or
> issues?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
> Damon
>
> P.S. - please remove DONT_MASS_WITH_ME to correspond.
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how modify apache httpd startup call???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:09:46 GMT
Markus Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:56:30 +0100, wrote :
MW> Hi,
MW>
MW> I would like to add some commandline options to the httpd startup call
MW> during boot. I searched all the startup scripts in init.d and finally
MW> found a call to apache, which is a binary file.
MW>
MW> Can't I modify the startup of httpd? Do I have to recompile and
MW> reinstall apache just to add some options to the startup commandline? I
MW> am using SuSE 6.3.
In /etc/rc.d/init.d should be a file named 'httpd' -- you *could* edit
this file, BUT I'm guessing what you really want to do is edit the
*.conf files in /etc/httpd/conf/.
What *exactly* do you want to do?
MW>
MW> Thanks for any hints,
MW>
MW> MArkus
MW>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use linux???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:09:43 GMT
D.Weitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:07:25 GMT, wrote :
D> Our church has a 486 with a 500 meg hard disk that was donated. All os
D> have been deleted from the machine. I can't use Windows on it and while
D> I could install DOS and use Dos-based Wordperfect and Lotus I'd rather
D> use linux if it would be practical. My other problems are that this
D> machine has no CD. I probably could install a modem but haven't got a
D> browser -- I'm not sure but I might be able to find an old Dos version
D> of Procom Plus but I'm not at all sure about that. I was wondering if an
D> older version of linux would be a way to start. Any recommendations.
D> Thanks very much.
D> Dave Weitz
Get Slackware and a *big* box of floppies -- Slackware can be installed
from floppies.
If you can beg/borrow/steal/etc a pair of NICs and a desktop box with a
CDROM, Linux already installed, you can drop in a RedHat CD in the
desktop box and install via ethernet. Actually, you don't really need
the NIC's -- a null modem cable and pppd on both machines will work as
well (just not quite as fast). You might need to install a small
Slackware system (A and N disks) to get enough up and alive to use some
sort for file transfer hack to get the RH RPM's over.
This is esentually how I got RH 4.1 (and later upgraded to RH 5.2) on
my *old* 486-50 LapTop (I have a PCMCIA Ethernet card). It has a 500meg
hard drive and no CD-ROM. Works great. I don't have netscape
installed and don't have a "word processor". I do have MicroEmacs
3.10, TeTeX, GhostScript, C/C++, SWIG, Tcl/Tk, Xf, xv, ucblogo, xbill,
and X11 installed -- a pretty complete, but basic development system.
I did delete most of the stuff under /usr/doc and most of the man pages
to make room.
D>
D>
D> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
D> Before you buy.
D>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: IMAP
Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:02:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:54:11 GMT, David Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Guys!
|
| I'm using IMAP instead of CUCIPOP but I can't seem to get IMAP to run as a
| service at boot time it runs then won't TSR or whatever linux does and just
| holds the system up! AM I BEING DIM??
Usually IMAP servers are activated automatically through inetd under user
priviliges. Check your IMAP server doc's to see if this is indeed the case.
If so you don't need to startup anything at boottime. Your imap client will
trigger it all for you automatically.
Koos Pol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Loukidelis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:33:55 GMT
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:36:56 -0500, Allin Cottrell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What the heck you want to run that doesn't have a Linux version?
>
>--
>Allin Cottrell
>Department of Economics
>Wake Forest University, NC
MS Money, Quicken, MS Word...
--
John Loukidelis
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From: Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:57:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Loukidelis wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:36:56 -0500, Allin Cottrell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >What the heck you want to run that doesn't have a Linux version?
> >
> >--
> >Allin Cottrell
> >Department of Economics
> >Wake Forest University, NC
>
> MS Money, Quicken, MS Word...
For Money and Quicken (why both?) use VMWare, for Word use StarOffice or
rather LaTeXe/LyX and KOffice (soon).
Gruss / Regards,
Henrik Becker
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From: User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New to Linux: Help!
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:27:13 +0000
I installed Linux (RH 6.1) for the first time ever yesterday. It works
needs tweaking so any help with the following would be extremely welcome
(especially if in simple English!):
1: Everything on the desktop is far too big, so icons & windows are ugly
and cumbersome, and in some cases I can't even get at certain bits of
windows as they don't fit on the screen. I'm pretty confident that I had
the monitor/card settings correct when I installed - it's a laptop with
600x800 LCD panel and I never had this problem with Win95 so I'm
guessing it can be fixed. (I'm currently using the Enlightenment/GNOME
combination).
2: How can I check the contents of my harddrive to see e.g. if any bits
of my (well and truly corrupted) Win95 are still there taking up
valuable space?
3: Must it be so slow? I have 32MB of RAM (and allocated at least that
much swap space) which I know isn't massive, and a 200MHz Pentium. It
ran Win95 at lightning speed and they told me Linux could be at least as
fast. Is it possible to steamline things at all?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sacha Kaercher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:55:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:36:56 -0500, Allin Cottrell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Eric Peterson wrote:
>
>> Which would you prefer? Personally, if everything I wanted to run had a
>> Linux version, I doubt that I would EVER boot Windows again.
>
>What the heck you want to run that doesn't have a Linux version?
>
A fast and good video player
QuarkXpress
Opera
Netmeeting
PowerPoint
...
-- Sacha
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From: Roberto Maria Avanzi Mocenigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Real player 7 on SuSE (6.2)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:48:59 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
I am having a problem.
RealplayerG2 alpha for linux expired, and I downloaded
Real Player 7. I read "for Red hat 6.0" but I tried
anyway: I had nothing to loose since the old
version refuses to start.
Anyway, it does not work at all.
realplay does not even start, it seimply exits with
error code 1, whereas rpnphelper tells me
BOO!
Aborted
Anyone succeeded, there is no hope ?
If I think that G2 WORKED. grrrr
thank you in advance
Roberto
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From: Jeff Roediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use linux???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:49:13 -0700
Dave,
Do you have a CD-ROM? Put it in the church machine for the install and
then take it out.
Be prepared and available for questions. Or have a training class on
linux for your church members that use the system.
You'd have thought my church was the biggest in the world by the number
of calls I got a day on Linux. It's a small one actually but alot of
people use the system. Mostly for the CD-R. I wound up reinstalling
windows in order to have a life for linux;-).
I don't say this gladly considering windows doesn't even exist on any
of my boxes, but... you may want to go with windows unless you have a
small core group of people who will use the system and are willing to
take the time to learn Linux. Some day tho, Linux will rule the
desktop...
Regards
Jeff
"D.Weitz" wrote:
>
> Our church has a 486 with a 500 meg hard disk that was donated. All os
> have been deleted from the machine. I can't use Windows on it and while
> I could install DOS and use Dos-based Wordperfect and Lotus I'd rather
> use linux if it would be practical. My other problems are that this
> machine has no CD. I probably could install a modem but haven't got a
> browser -- I'm not sure but I might be able to find an old Dos version
> of Procom Plus but I'm not at all sure about that. I was wondering if an
> older version of linux would be a way to start. Any recommendations.
> Thanks very much.
> Dave Weitz
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.M. Paden)
Subject: Re: How to install new applications???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:48:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I feel like a complete idiot, but I have tried everything to install
>applications downloaded off the internet. I can't log on to the
>internet with Linux, but log on with windows, download applications, as
>either .tar or .tar.gz files and then transfer over to my Linux
>desktop. Then I try everything conceivably possible from a terminal
>window to install.
>
>I try "gunzip"ing the .gz files then tar -xvf the tar files but nothing
>seems to happen. Can someone please give me a step by step approach on
>how to install software in Linux, so that a dummy could understand. I
>am using Mandrake 7.0.
>
>Thanks - Tim
The following are notes I made when puzzling through the aps
installation procedures for the first time.
Installing new Software
When you download software from the net, it is usually in the form
of a program.tar.gz or program.tgz file. The first thing you need
to do is to copy or download directly to one of your Linux
directories.
In some cases you are familiar with the program involved and know
where the files of the program are supposed to be distributed. Qu
frequently, however, you will not know where the program files are
supposed to go. The safe course is to put the *tar.gz file in a
"safe" workspace. /usr/src or /usr/local/src or ~/src are directories
that can be used. Some people put them in /tmp or /usr/local/tmp,
since the source files are probably going to be deleted after the
program is compiled and installed.
For the file "newprogram.tar.gz":
cp newprogram.tar.gz /usr/local/src
cd /usr/local/src
ls
To confirm the file was properly copied into this directory.
gzip -d newprogram.tar.gz
This uncompresses the file and leaves a file named
newprogram.tar.
tar -tvf newprogram.tar
The "t" of -tvf provides a list of the contents of
newprogram.tar without distributing the files into /usr/local/src or
any other directory. This lets you see where the files are going to
be after the full untar command is given. Look at the first few lines
of the list and you will see if they are:
./newprogram/README
./newprogram/Makefile
Which means that a new directory named "newprogram" will
be created in the current working directory /usr/local/src
and it will contain all the files that are in newprogram.tar.
This means that it is safe to continue to fully untar the
file.
However, if you see:
README
Makefile
conf.h
This indicates that when you untar the file, all of
its content
are going to be dumped into /usr/local/src. Usually
This is not what you want. You would then:
mkdir newprogram
mv newprogram.tar newprogram/
This puts newprogram.tar into a safer place.
cd newprogram
tar xvf newprogram.tar
This completes the untar process.
ls
You will now see all the files that come with
newprogram.
less README
This file usually points out any peculiarites of the
program and may point you to a file called INSTALL or install.
less INSTALL
If this file exists, it will give you more info on how
to compile/install the newprogram.
Even if the instructions are not there, you can make an
educated guess as to how to proceed.
If there is a file named "configure"?
If there is the following command will build a Makefile using
the Gnu autoconfig program:
./configure
make
make -n install
The make -n command gives you a preview of what
the "make install" command will do, without actually performing the
installation. It is, like the tar tvf command, a safe way to see
what is going to happen. If you see no problems, then:
make install
If your program does not have a file named "configure":
a. Is there a file named "Imakefile"? If so, use
"vi" or another editor, to make any needed changes in the Imakefile.
vi Imakefile
xmkmf
make
make -n install
make install
b. Is there a file named Makefile? If so, edit
Makefile with vi and then:
make
make install
Regards,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The last temptation is the greatest treason:
To do the right deed for the wrong reason."
--T.S. Eliot
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From: Allen Ahoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: expert mode and drivers disks for rh6.1 install
Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:55:19 GMT
Can someone explain how expert mode oeprates with rh6.1 installations.
How do I make a drivers disk that it asks for?
I want to include a module not in the stock kernel during the install for
the dm9102 network card.
Thanks.
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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help: access denied to device ttyS1(serial port COM1) in SusE Linux 6.3
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:01:42 -0500
Subject: Cannot open /dev/ttyS1: Permission denied
I cannot use wvdial as a normal user because of the above error. It
only works for "root". Changing group of user to uucp, root, or both
has no effect. Changing the permissions of /dev/ttyS1 has no effect
either.
Why does it do this? If nothing to do with file permissions , has it
something to do with the kernal provided by SusE? If this is so I
rather disappointed this had to be built into the standard kernal. This
means only "root" can have internet access from the pc, and checking off
"modem access" for each user is pointless, which is pretty stupid.
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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question: writing or getting hold of a dial-up script
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:08:23 -0500
I would like to have a script that can be executed from the bash shell,
which can use the wvdialer to dial in, execute sendmail -q and
fetchmail, then kill all these processes. I am using SusE Linux 6.3.
The manual mentions entering these commands into "scripts that
establish the connection to your isp" , but does not offer a clue on how
to come by such a script. Being a newbie, the script I wrote of couse
did not work. There must be one out there somewhere that I can use and
study.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:20:01 GMT
On 24 Mar 2000 00:08:39 -0600, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:28:49 -0800, Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Nope. You got it backwards.
>>>Windows sets up fine (usually) but then crashes a lot when you try to run
>>>it.
>>>Linux is (still) tough to set up properly, but once it is, it NEVER
>>>crashes.
>>
>> For what he was describing, Linux can be just as easy to set up.
>> If we were to bring a logitech usb camera into this discussion
>> things would even out real quick...
>
>I've tried a usb camera on a toshiba laptop running win98 and
>the machine crashes when it tries to access it. It can't be
>any worse under linux even if it doesn't run.
I have a windows box that I powerup just for a winprinter, scanner, USB
camera support and a PCMCIA reader. What a piece of crap! Anytime I
kill a hung process, I can usually count on having to reboot it.
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From: Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: access denied to device ttyS1(serial port COM1) in SusE Linux 6.3
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:22:04 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George Bell wrote:
> Subject: Cannot open /dev/ttyS1: Permission denied
>
> I cannot use wvdial as a normal user because of the above error. It
> only works for "root". Changing group of user to uucp, root, or both
> has no effect. Changing the permissions of /dev/ttyS1 has no effect
> either.
>
> Why does it do this? If nothing to do with file permissions , has it
> something to do with the kernal provided by SusE? If this is so I
> rather disappointed this had to be built into the standard kernal. This
> means only "root" can have internet access from the pc, and checking off
> "modem access" for each user is pointless, which is pretty stupid.
Read something about a script to be applied to use wvdial. BUT: check if you
have permissions set correctly on ttyS1 (rwx) - man chmod
Gruss / Regards,
Henrik Becker
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:58:38 +0100
From: Bjorn Leffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet via USB adapter ?
Hi,
Does anyone know if it is possible to use an Ethernet USB adapter under
Linux ?
Thanks,
Bjorn
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From: brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: eth0 Operation Failed!!!
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:39:38 +1100
Hi all
I have just installed Redhat 6.2 beta and there is a small problem that
I hope someone can help with.
During boot up, while the machine is loading all the bits and piecies,
the boot process pauses on this line....
'Bring up interface eth0'
I stays on this line for about 40 seconds. Once it continues it adds
this to the line...
'Determine IP information for eth0. Operation Failed.'
Could someone please give me a bit of a clue as to what is going on
here.
Here is what I know. (or think I know)
eth0 sounds like it some sort of network card. (Is this correct?)
I do have a network card in machine, but at this point I have not ever
looked at connecting the machine to another.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Brad
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:50:42 -0500
John Loukidelis wrote:
>
> >What the heck you want to run that doesn't have a Linux version?
>
> MS Money, Quicken, MS Word...
GnuCash, xfinance, LyX, StarOffice.
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Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MP3 ripping and (en)decoding?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:53:22 -0500
Bj�rn T Johansen wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any recommendation for doing this kind of work under
> Linux, both CD-ripping and encoding/decoding?
> Which software do you recommend?
Ripping: grip (www.nostatic.org/grip)
Encoding: lame, gogo (see links on grip site)
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Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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