Linux-Misc Digest #940, Volume #26 Sat, 27 Jan 01 17:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Puzzling messages when running dmesg... (David Efflandt)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (J Sloan)
Re: Windows98 sees Linux-disk as CD (David Efflandt)
Re: $/.bashrc aliases question... (Dave Brown)
linux from windows ("Sudhakar R.")
ie for linux ("Sudhakar R.")
Re: Lilo configuration (Eric Hicks)
Re: ie for linux (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help (Dave Brown)
Re: ie for linux (Eric Hicks)
Have a Linux Systems Company? - Submit it to Dmoz! (Peter Watkinson)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Ackman)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Mark Bratcher)
Re: "data missing" in netscape (Again) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Inodes (Dave Brown)
Re: kdm startup (Dave Brown)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: Lilo configuration (Jack Kaufmann)
Re: Linux API (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: making copy of RH bootable CD on Windoze box (Dave Brown)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Puzzling messages when running dmesg...
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:05:04 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Steve Ackman wrote:
>>
>> >It turns out that magicdev is it. It seems to be a GNOME thing to
>> >automount things. It is not in an init.d script, because it seems that
>> >it is started at login (at least, at a login when you are running
>> >GNOME/Enlightenment.
>> >
>> >One reason why I switched from Windows to Linux was to get away from
>> >dunderheads second-guessing me and doing what they thought was for my
>> >own good, and not even telling me about it.
If you look through the gnome configuration menus somewhere is a window
that lets you set whether gnome should automount CDs or even autorun
programs on them. If you uncheck those boxes your 'problem' may go
away. But I don't think those dmsg messages about disk change are logged
anyway, but when I was running gnome, I certainly unchecked that box to
autorun a CD.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:11:37 GMT
John Hasler wrote:
> Edward Rosten writes:
> > Christian morals were also invented by people.
>
> And the US was _not_ founded on "Christian beliefs".
You're splitting hairs -
There was a strong deist influence, at the very least.
jjs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Windows98 sees Linux-disk as CD
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:20:17 +0100, Gerard H. Pille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>If you wonder why I ask this question here, it's because I know where
>one can get an answer.
>
>I installed Linux on a separate disk, a slave on the same ide-port as
>the master. Used Linux fdisk to partition it. LILO MBR on the master
>disk.
>
>Now Windows sees these partitions as CD-ROMS.
>
>If you wonder why I care, it's because I have a cd-writer too, and HP's
>burning software is not so bright, in so far that it allways writes to
>the first CD-device it finds, burner or not. Now I wouldn't like to
>burn my Linux installation.
>
>So, if one of you sees the light at the end of the tunnel, and wants to
>share his illuminicence ...
In case you hadn't noticed, Windows itself is not too bright either about
removed or relocated drives or partitions. Check your Linux partition
types with Linux fdisk and make sure that any primary (not extended) or
logical partitions are appropriately type Linux or Linux swap.
In Windows Control Panel, System, Devices remove any bogus disk devices
and your CD drive. Reboot and Windows should automatically find the
drives where they are supposed to be now. It should never see your Linux
partitions at all unless they are (or were) an incorrect type.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: $/.bashrc aliases question...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jan 2001 15:27:42 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guy Parry wrote:
> export BASH_ENV=$HOME/.bashrc
> . $HOME/.bashrc
>
> in my .bash_profile, and it just gets me a message saying:
>
> bash: ./home/pargoo/.bashrc: No such file or directory
Apparently, you haven't typed what you think you've typed.
The error message that bash is giving you says that you called a file
"./home/pargoo/.bashrc", which is not the same as "/home/pargoo/.bashrc".
It looks like you're missing the space between the "." and the "$HOME".
BTW, BASH_ENV is only used for shell scripts, not read for interactive
scripts, which automatically read .bashrc unless it's a login shell.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux from windows
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:30:56 -0500
i have windows me and RH 7.0 sitting on different partitions on the same
hard disk. is there any way i can get access to my linux files while
booted in windows?
-sud
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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ie for linux
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:32:33 -0500
hi!
does there exist ie for linux?
-sud
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From: Eric Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo configuration
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:37:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> This is a silly question, but I'm having trouble changing the lilo
> configuration. I have edited etc/lilo.conf (to change the default boot
> system), and after editing that I called lilo, but I get a fatal error
> message about not being able to load the boot record onto sector
> something. Can anyone help me out? Thanks.
>
You have to rerun lilo after making any changes. Type '/sbin/lilo' while
logged in as root.
Eric
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ie for linux
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:35:16 GMT
"Sudhakar R." wrote:
>
> hi!
>
> does there exist ie for linux?
>
> -sud
No.
But there is Netscape, Opera, and Lynx.
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jan 2001 15:38:12 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jesper Petersen wrote:
>Thanks for a very good answer. What I read out of this is that it wouldn't
>help to edit the XF86Config file (is that correct?). For me it seems to be a
>complicated task to get it up running once I've installed RH 6 instead I'll
>try to find RH 7.
You could try Xconfigurator (comes with RH), runs in the text mode, and
creates the XF86Config file for you. But I just doubt that the level of
XFree86 that shipped with RH 6.0 would support your laptop anyway. Your
best shot is RH 6.2 or RH 7.0.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Eric Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ie for linux
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:45:25 GMT
In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101271531560.1402-100000
@matrixuc.homeip.net>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> hi!
>
> does there exist ie for linux?
>
> -sud
>
>
Nope.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Watkinson)
Subject: Have a Linux Systems Company? - Submit it to Dmoz!
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:58:51 GMT
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Peter Watkinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.windsurf-international.com/
http://www.pwnavigate.com/
http://you.genie.co.uk/peterw/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:37:22 -0500
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:11:37 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Hasler wrote:
>
>> Edward Rosten writes:
>> > Christian morals were also invented by people.
>>
>> And the US was _not_ founded on "Christian beliefs".
>
>You're splitting hairs -
>
>There was a strong deist influence, at the very least.
Jefferson was a Deist, yet was branded an Atheist by his
Christian detractors. Deism is a far cry from Christianity.
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:23:01 GMT
Steve Ackman wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:11:37 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >John Hasler wrote:
> >
> >> Edward Rosten writes:
> >> > Christian morals were also invented by people.
> >>
> >> And the US was _not_ founded on "Christian beliefs".
> >
> >You're splitting hairs -
> >
> >There was a strong deist influence, at the very least.
>
> Jefferson was a Deist, yet was branded an Atheist by his
> Christian detractors. Deism is a far cry from Christianity.
>
But did he use _Linux_? Or was he another MicroSofty? :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.netscape,netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: "data missing" in netscape (Again)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:15:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> 1. change how often NS check fo r newer versions.
> edit/preferences/advanced/cache/
> set document is compared to cache to once per session.
>
It is already set to once per session..
> 2. if you are submitting forms or going back to a site that placed a
> cookie, sometimes the cookie expires or the data is missing from a
> form that you entered, thus the data missing error.
> just start back at the beginning of that page.
>
Hmm, Indeed I had linked cookies file to /dev/null . But why NS cache or
squid doesn't keep and retrieve the page ? any other solution?
> also in secure web sites, sometimes you cannot go back, you can only
> go forward or start over.
>
> ---------------------------------------
> VirtualMoose
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://virtualmoose.freehomepage.com
> ---------------------------------------
> Once is an accident; twice is coincidence;
> Three times is enemy action.
> For most people, that enemy is Micro$oft.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Inodes
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:37:48 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kirk wrote:
>when I run df -i I get the following
>
>
>Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
>/dev/sda5 189k 189k 40 100% /
>/dev/sda1 3.9k 59 3.9k 1% /boot
>/dev/md0 864k 46k 818k 5% /home
>
>How do I free up the root directory? I have removed all the .core files,
>removed excess log files.
>...
>df output is:
>
>Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>/dev/sda5 1.4G 1.2G 154M 89% /
>/dev/sda1 15M 7.1M 7.3M 49% /boot
>/dev/md0 6.6G 1.3G 5.0G 20% /home
>
Somewhere on your system is a directory which has thousands of entries in
it. You might write a little shell script which counts the directory
entries (don't forget to make it executable):
echo -n "$1 "; ls $1 | wc -w
and run it against all the directories on your system with a find command:
find / -type d -exec ./counter.sh {} \; | more
I saw a note about a similar situation recently, but I forget where the
note said that the files were being created.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: kdm startup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:43:05 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Pollack wrote:
>I use kdm to log on to my system, and I use icewm as my window manager
>(i.e. no kde, no gnome). In the past, when I used startx, I could start
>up a screensaver by including the appropriate command in '.xinitrc'. Can
>someone tell me how to do this with kdm? It apparently doesn't use
>.xinitrc.
Put the same in .Xclients ...
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:41:15 GMT
J Sloan writes:
> There was a strong deist influence, at the very least.
Deism was the big-bang theory of the 18th century, and had about as much
connection to christianity as does the latter. Maybe less.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo configuration
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:51:29 GMT
Eric Hicks wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > This is a silly question, but I'm having trouble changing the lilo
> > configuration. I have edited etc/lilo.conf (to change the default boot
> > system), and after editing that I called lilo, but I get a fatal error
> > message about not being able to load the boot record onto sector
> > something. Can anyone help me out? Thanks.
> >
>
> You have to rerun lilo after making any changes. Type '/sbin/lilo' while
> logged in as root.
>
> Eric
That's when I got the message "Can't put the boot sector on logical
partition 0x346". What's up with that?
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux API
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:03:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In Windows, programs are able to communicate with other programs'
> graphical widgets through the API.
Yes, and the biggest class of programs to use this "feature" is
the whole range of windows virii.
> For example, if say Microsoft Word
> is open, I can make my program type something into Word's buffer and
> then press the save button. However, since in Linux there are many GUIs
> (vanilla X, X + GNOME, X + KDE)
YOu call it three, I call it one. I tend to rung what most would call
a vanalla X desktop but I have installed a number of Gnome and KDE
apps which run quite happily.
> is this really possible to do?
Gnome uses CORBA for this task and KDE has a way of doing it as
well. There is talk of making both these desktop ebviroments use
the same inter-app communication model.
IMHO this "feature" is mostly bogus.
> I don't
> recall seeing any Xlib functions to do something like this.
Its not an Xlib thing. Its done at a higher level.
Erik
--
+----------------------------------------------------------+
Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes its valid)
+----------------------------------------------------------+
"In civilian equipment, such as computers, the number
of components alone makes miniaturization essential if
the computer is to be housed in a reasonable-sized
building." Electronics Oct. 1, 1957, p. 178
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:00:30 -0500
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> >> |> No, I meant exactly what I typed. See dejanews for my multiple arguments
> >> >> |> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
> >> >
> >> >> Oh, that's *really* authoritative. It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
> >> >> or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
> >> >
> >> >"grammar".
> >>
> >> Now, if somebody would compare Bill Gates to Hitler, we can officially
> >> declare this thread deceased.
> >
> >FUCK YOU and anybody else who invokes "Godwin's Law"
>
> Still saving up to buy a sense of humor, eh?
>
I knew you'd enjoy it :-)
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! I've got to get
> at these SNACK CAKES to NEWARK
> visi.com by DAWN!!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: making copy of RH bootable CD on Windoze box
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jan 2001 17:03:47 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>OK, so I have RH 6.0 purring along, and would like to make a copy of
>the bootable install CD. However, I only have CD burners for my
>various Windoze boxes. I tried doing a basic disk copy using the
>latest flavour of Adaptecs software for doing same, but the copied CD
>does not boot when I restart the Linux box.
>
The boot sector on a CD is hidden from the file system, so if you just
copy the file system with your CD copying utilities, you don't get a
bootable cd.
In linux, you can create a CD image (which contains all of the sectors,
including the boot image).
dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdimage.img
(Of course, you need to put the correct device in for your cdrom device.)
Then you can burn that image with cdrecord (in linux) or if you haven't
figured out how to use your cd burner in linux, put the cdimage file
on a windows partition and burn it with the windows software, selecting
the option that lets you burn a previously-created image.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:07:36 -0500
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >Most of the tamper-friendly voting systems are in Demoncrook-run counties.
> >Why is that?
>
> Democtratic counties tend to be poorer?
Lame EXCUSE
You're telling me that even though scan-tron machines are prevelant
in every single school in the country, they're suddenly prohibitively
expensive when sold with voting software?
I don't buy it.
Especially not when a man CONVICTED of multiple felony counts of
ballot-tampering for the benefit of Democrat candidates explained
fully well that the whole strategy revolves around the tamperability
of punch-card ballots.
You remember all the chads that kept getting swept up off the floor
in Florida...NEVER allowed to accumulate, lest it become completely
fucking obvious what was being done.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! Send your questions
> at to "ASK ZIPPY", Box 40474,
> visi.com San Francisco, CA 94140,
> USA
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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