Linux-Misc Digest #965, Volume #23 Sun, 26 Mar 00 19:13:02 EST
Contents:
XF86Config for Dell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mouse & CDrom (Penpal International)
Re: How do I uninstall Corel Linux ? (Dances With Crows)
Re: LICQ file receive using InJoy FireWall for OS/2 Warp 4 ("William L. Hartzell")
Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (2:1)
Re: More resolution probs (Jim Cochrane)
Re: Methods to copy partitions for back up purposes (Dances With Crows)
sending mail with your ISP smtp server? (Michael Kelly)
Re: Where is initial PATH defined? ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Hummingbird Exceed ("Mark L. Kahnt")
Re: Upgrading SuSE v6.0 to v6.3? (John Hasler)
Re: linux-2.3.51 -> linux-2.3.99pre1 (Andy9701)
Re: Do you hate vi? ("Mark L. Kahnt")
Redhat 6.1 to SuSE 6.3 Problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Athlon kernel compile ("Tom Hoffmann")
Re: XF86Config for Dell (Dances With Crows)
Found ("constants")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XF86Config for Dell
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:58:56 GMT
Does anyone have the XF86Config for Dell Optiplex GX1; it comes with
Monitor: Dell P991 FD Trinitron (19")
Video Card: STB NVIDIA TNT 16 MB PCI graphics card.
Bought PC from Dell pre-loaded with Linux. The default XF86Config gives
pathetic resolution. Appreciate any help.
Thanks!
Atul
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From: Penpal International <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse & CDrom
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:17:10 +0200
Everytime when the cdrom is loading data the mouse cursor often jumps
acros the screen. I'm realy getting sick of this. Can I do something
about this?
(PS. I'm using Suse Linux 6.3, kernel 2.2.13 on a PII 233 mhz.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How do I uninstall Corel Linux ?
Date: 26 Mar 2000 17:34:24 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:30:03 GMT, sven <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>Gidday, I Installed Corel Linux, as the only operating system,
>installation worked fine, but: I can't establish a web connection, my
>printer doesn't work and... the system dies on me quite frequently. I
Did you RTFM to try and solve these problems, or what? If you give up at
the first sign of adversity, then *no* Linux distro will serve your needs.
It's all about tweaking, hacking, and learning.
>partitioning of my harddiskdrive, made sure that 100 percent are dos, so
>there is no linux left, formatted it again.. no relief, still comes up
>with the first corel linux screen... what do I do ?
1. Find a Win9x machine. (Not hard, right?)
2. Insert a floppy disk into it.
3. get to a DOS prompt, and FORMAT A:
4. SYS A:
5. COPY C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FDISK.EXE A:\
6. Take this newly-created DOS boot disk to your "sick" machine, then boot
from said disk.
7. FDISK /MBR
If you hadn't wiped Linux from the drive, you could've done it much more
simply, with "lilo -u".
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "William L. Hartzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: LICQ file receive using InJoy FireWall for OS/2 Warp 4
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:39:47 GMT
stewart:
Read My First post for the newsgroup suggestion....
Bill
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:00:45 +0100
clyde wrote:
> next thing you know, you'll read that big bill owns them. the internet is
> becoming more closed everyday. it's like watching tv, 10 mins of actual
> program, 20 mins of commercials.
> clyde
<plug>BBC</plug>
I have to say, its great, 100% prograams, 0% commercials. The web site also has
a low graphics option. I just had to say, that not all big organisations make
websites that load slowly on anything less than a gigabit link.
-Ed
>
> Stefan Ohlsson wrote:
>
> > Randy Crawford wrote:
> > >Simply amazing.
> > >
> > >I just tried to visit http://www.dishnetwork.com, but every
> > >time it crashed Netscape within visiting one, or at most two
> > >links off the main page. (I'm running Linux Redhat 6.0,
> > >Netscape 4.61, and I'm no newbie to Living Without Windows.)
> > >
> > This site is good... as an example for how NOT to make a site.
> > The layout is awful. Maybe because I have no java nor javascript.
> > It seems it's possible to navigate without it though.
> > All images lack ALT-tags. Lots of images lacks WIDTH and HEIGHT
> > attributes.
> >
> > Anyways, here are some things to think about when designing a site
> > that I think are important;
> >
> > Important Rule #1:
> > Java and Javascript should not be required to navigate a site.
> >
> > Important Rule #2:
> > All images should have ALT,WIDTH and HEIGHT attributes.
> >
> > Important Rule #3:
> > At no time should more than 3 frames be displayed, preferrably not more
> > than 2.
> >
> > /Stefan
> > --
> > [ Stefan Ohlsson ] � http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal95son/ � [ ICQ# 17519554 ]
> >
> > Lenina Huxely: Let's go blow this guy.
> > John Spartan: Away! Let's go blow this guy *away*!
> > /Demolition Man
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous Hackenthorpe rock, which
is over three trillion years old?
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: More resolution probs
Date: 26 Mar 2000 15:50:18 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Simon H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Firstly, sincere thanks to everyone that posted/mailed in response to my
>earlier cry for help entitled "New to Linux: Help!".
>
>One problem I'm having is that everything on the desktop is HUGE. The
>consensus was that this was because in my XF86Config file, the
>resolution was set to 640x480, whereas what I need is 800x600. I ran
>XF86Configurator - no success here. So, I switched the modes around in
>XF86Config by hand, with "800x600" first in line. Still no improvement.
>What on earth is wrong?! (I can't use Ctrl-Alt-Minus/Plus because I
>don't have a numeric keypad).
Assuming your settings in the X config file are correct - for example, no
syntax errors, you should be able to change to the next video mode setting
in the file by executing:
xvidtune -next
Use -prev to switch to the previous setting. This should allow you to
change to your setting with the higher resolution. If it still doesn't
work, you probably have an error in the configuration of the higher
resolution. You might try posting to comp.os.linux.x, where you're likely
to find X experts that can help.
>
>The machine is a Toshiba Satellite 310CDT (which the Linux Laptop page
>at utexas.edu doesn't mention) with 800x600 LCD panel, and (I think) a
>pretty standard SVGA card (which was autodetected with no difficulty).
>If anyone has succeeded with Linux (I'm using RH6.1) on this machine I'd
>love to hear from you. (I'm also having trouble with the keyboard
>settings, though this can wait)
>
>Cheers, Simon
>
--
Jim Cochrane
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Methods to copy partitions for back up purposes
Date: 26 Mar 2000 17:52:22 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:51:30 -0500, mike <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
> I would like to know how to copy partitions and keep some
>in reserve for backups.
> Also what is the procedure to restore / or switch to one of
>the backed up partitions if the origional one is damaged.
> Example: I accidentally wiped out my /boot partition. If I
>had a backup of it how could I get the system to recognize the
>backup?
Copying partitions is easy. If I had / on /dev/hda1 and some empty space
on /dev/hda9, I'd do:
# mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/backup
# cd /
# cp -ax * /mnt/backup
Switching partitions on the fly is a matter of umounting the old
partition and mounting the new one, then editing /etc/fstab.
/boot is a special case, as it contains the kernel images and LILO's
loading map. If you restore /boot from backup, you need to re-run
/sbin/lilo so that LILO can find all the right files upon boot.
If you really want to back up your system, then copying everything to
another location on the same HD is not the way to go about it. HDs can
fail spectacularly and completely, without warning. Get a CD-RW, some
blanks, and some of the nifty CD-Backup utilities from freshmeat.net. If
you're *really* serious, get a SCSI card and a nice SCSI tape unit.
(faster, much higher capacity.)
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sending mail with your ISP smtp server?
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:51:36 -0500
Anyone know how to configure sendmail to use my isp's
smtp server when sending mail? I'm using knews and
it can post okay because it knows the name of my
news server, but it uses sendmail to send email and
it's not getting to the smtp server.
TIA
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is initial PATH defined?
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:05:01 -0500
Floyd Davidson wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>"Robert L. Klungle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Charles Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>This is from SlackWare 6 (Linux-2.2.6):
>>linux:/etc/rc.d> grep path *
>>rc.0: # Set the path.
>>rc.6: # Set the path.
>>rc.K: # Set the path.
>>rc.inet2:# to a host take a different path than packets from that host
>>to you) or if
>>linux:/etc/rc.d> grep PATH *
>>rc.0: PATH=/sbin:/etc:/bin:/usr/bin
>>rc.6: PATH=/sbin:/etc:/bin:/usr/bin
>>rc.K: PATH=/sbin:/etc:/bin:/usr/bin
>>rc.S:PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
>>bob
>
>None of the above have anything at all to do with setting a user's
>PATH variable at login time. Each of the above scripts is run by
>the init process as the system boots or at other times when the
>run level is changed, and each PATH set affects *only* the execution
>of that script or subshells exec'd from that script.
>
>>
>>> I have RH 6.0 and can't find where the initial system PATH string
>>> is defined. /etc/profile just appends /usr/X11R6/bin to the
>>> existing PATH.
>>>
>>> I'm using the bash shell, but /etc/bash_profile just modifies
>>> the existing PATH also, as do the .bashxxx files in my home
>>> directory.
>
>I do not use RedHat, so I'm not positive just how your system
>might be configured. The most common configuration is that
>/etc/profile adds to or sets the default PATH variable. Some
>users may want to reset it with ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile or
>~/.bash_login (see the bash man page section on INVOCATION for
>more information). The significant point is that all of these
>files are executed one time, at login only, for an interactive
>shell.
>
>The initial PATH variable setting comes from either login, su,
>telnet, or whatever other means is used to initiate a login
>shell. The default /etc/profile might either add to that
>(see the man pages for each program for details on what is
>set initially) or may be used to set PATH rather than add to
>it.
I guess it's got to be in the login routine. The PATH as
received by /etc/profile is /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
I'll have to go rooting around in the source code.
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From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hummingbird Exceed
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:45:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone know where I can download a copy of Hummingbird Exceed from?
>
> Thanx!
>
> --
> Steven Coutts
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> Before you buy.
Hummingbird does offer a limited time usage apparently fully operational
demo that you can order from them. I've found them really useful to deal
with, but as a consultant, I think they may be trying to be sure that
they can get me onside for recommendations to my clients.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading SuSE v6.0 to v6.3?
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:01:39 GMT
Stewart Honsberger writes:
> I know that upgrading Linux distros is generally not the better way to go,...
I wrote:
>Who told you that?
Stewart Honsberger writes:
> Personal experience, along with testemonials in these newsgroups.
Experience with what distributions?
> As I mentioned earlier, the last time I tried SuSE's upgrade procedure,
> my Linux installation grew by several hundred megs, and system
> performance went straight down the tube.
Sounds pretty buggy. I've never had any serious trouble upgrading Debian,
even when the upgrade included libc5 -> libc6.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux-2.3.51 -> linux-2.3.99pre1
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:23:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamid Misnan) wrote:
> On 19 Mar 2000 16:29:32 GMT, Bastian wrote:
> >On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:43:29 -0500, Young4ert wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have just checked the linux kernel site and found that the
development
> >>kernel jumped from the version 2.3.51 to 2.3.99pre1. Is not this
pretty
> >>strange thing to do?
> >>
> >>Any comment?
> >>
> >
> >It's a pre-release for 2.4
>
> Does this mean we're going to get 2.4 in like say a month time? ;)
Somewhere (I can't remember where - Slashdot maybe?) I heard that 2.4
should be out this summer sometime.
Andy
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From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:20:14 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Heiner Steven wrote:
>
> Matt Chiglinsky wrote:
> > I write my C and lisp code in "emacs".
> > I write my Unix config file in "vi".
> > I write my DOS config files in "edit".
> > I write my Windows config files in "notepad".
> > I write my large (heh) Windows config files in "wordpad".
>
> You didn't say *why* you use "wordpad": because limitations
> of "notepad" force you to do so. Did you have the same
> problem with "emacs"? "vi"?
There's something about starting up a 2+ MB text file in Notepad under
NT 3.51 ;)
I learned vi under BSD 4.2 some 16 years ago, before I had a chance to
use emacs. Because I haven't had the time to learn emacs, I don't feel
as comfortable with it as I do with vi, and given that much of my uses
of plain text editors are to duck in, make quick changes, and exit, I
don't want to spend the time to learn a different editor for shat might
be only a two line change - particularly when on a system with a lot of
disk activity on the go, I can actually load, edit and save with vi (or
vim or elvis or nvi or whatever other variation) in the time it can take
xemacs to load up.
But doing something more intensive such as troff or TeX, or coding Java,
C, C++, Pascal, Fortan or Cobol (for a client that wanted some extra
eyes on a buggered stretch of code), I tend to split between vi and
xemacs, depending on whether I am dealing with one or a dozen separate
files concurrently. Quite honestly, xemacs handles multiple files much
more naturally than vi.
But the simple fact is that different editing needs can best be
addressed but different editors *IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM*. If you
don't know how to use the editor that would be generally best for a
particular task, then it wouldn't be best for you, simply put.
>
> Sorry, just *had* to tease ;-)
>
> Heiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Redhat 6.1 to SuSE 6.3 Problems
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:36:18 GMT
I changed from Redhat 6.1 to SuSE 6.3 and encountered problems with
masquerading and printing.
All my workstations are SuSE 6.3 and WIN98, only the router/server was
on RedHat 6.1, that's why the change to SuSE 6.3 on the server/router.
1. Masquerading.
After going to SuSE none of the masquerading modules are working. I
used the same configuration parameters which worked in RedHat.
When doing a depmod -a I get unreferenced symbols for all the
ip_masq_???.o modules and when doing a depmod I get modules not found.
The modules are in /lib/modules/2.2.13/ip4. I have the problem with
kernel 2.2.13 and 2.2.14. Are there any additional libraries needed,
which where in RedHat, but not in SuSE? Following are the Kernel
parameters for networking.
#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=y
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
# CONFIG_RTNETLINK is not set
CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=y
CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_NETLINK=y
CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=y
# CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY is not set
CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y
#
# Protocol-specific masquerading support will be built as modules.
#
CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_ICMP=y
2. Printing
I use Samba and LPR printing, both do not work. I have the
workstations entered in hosts.equiv and hosts.lpd. On the Win98
workstations I get that the printer is offline and on the Unix
Workstations I get Remote Qeue not enabled or the print job just
disappears.
All this worked in RedHat previously, are there major differences in
the setup between these two systems?
Any information is appreciated.
Thanks and Regards,
Horst Simon
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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Athlon kernel compile
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:45:19 GMT
MTRR only appies to PII and P-Pro processors. It will not hurt anything
to enable it, but you will get no benefit from having it enabled and it
will make your kernel larger.
Specify the processor as a 686.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Janet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm about to compile kernel 2.2.14 for my athlon box and was wondering
> whether to enable MTRR (there have been a lot of posts about needing to
> disable it in earlier kernel versions; what about this one?). Also,
> which processor type should I choose?
>
> Thanks, Janet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: XF86Config for Dell
Date: 26 Mar 2000 18:52:58 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:58:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8bm16q$3tv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>Does anyone have the XF86Config for Dell Optiplex GX1; it comes with
>Monitor: Dell P991 FD Trinitron (19")
>Video Card: STB NVIDIA TNT 16 MB PCI graphics card.
>Bought PC from Dell pre-loaded with Linux. The default XF86Config gives
>pathetic resolution. Appreciate any help.
Become root, then run SaX, Xconfigurator, or XF86Setup. That will
probably provide you with something much better. I don't know exactly
what resolution you want; 1600x1200 should be doable so long as your video
card supports that resolution. Make sure you know the Hsync and Vsync
limits of your monitor (they're in the manual, or you can guess...)
If you want X to start up in the highest resolution and color depth
possible each time, you'll want to edit /etc/XF86Config
(/etc/X11/XF86Config for RH-and-derived) so that the following lines are
in there:
DefaultColorDepth 32
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" ...
Put the highest-resolution mode first. For some reason, Xconfigurator
makes the default color depth 8-bit (what were they smoking?) and seems to
play silly games with the Mode lines in there. I think SaX does a much
better job, but I'm just biased...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "constants" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Found
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:11:20 -0500
I installed Mandrake. Whenever I try using Kppp after a certain point it
freezes. I look at the log window and you can see the words expect and found
blinking at fast speeds. Has anybody had this problem? What do I do?
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