Linux-Misc Digest #32, Volume #24 Mon, 3 Apr 00 14:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: RedHat 60 install freezes up on "Loading second stage ramdisk" (Steve)
Re: Light Weight web browser suggestions? (Big Daddy)
Re: Any web based free e-mail system run on Linux?? (Big Daddy)
serial port ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Recommendations Please (David)
Re: Light Weight web browser suggestions? (Bob Tennent)
Have linux installed now what? (Phillip Sebree)
Re: Recommendations Please (David)
Re: reading ntfs partition (Dennis Marshall)
Re: Have linux installed now what? (Leejay Wu)
Re: pppd dies from SIGHUP (Dennis Marshall)
Re: Recommended backup routines (oolong)
Re: fatal signal 11 (Vilmos Soti)
Cron reboots my system (CG)
Foxpro & Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Finding virtual memory info from a kernel module (Doug Schulz)
Re: Partition disappeared? (Michael Kelly)
Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? (Lion)
Re: sed and substitute newline--how? (Michael Kelly)
modify time on files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 2.2 Kernel vis a vis login process (Dave Brown)
Re: I messed up my MBR (Michael Kelly)
Re: HELP!! kernel configuration problems (Michael Kelly)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: RedHat 60 install freezes up on "Loading second stage ramdisk"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Apr 2000 17:09:27 GMT
On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:29:14 GMT, Lars Bonnesen wrote:
>I am trying to set up Linux RedHat6.0 on an old AMD 386 PC with 8 Mb
>RAM and 300 Gb HD. Netcard type is SMC UltraChip.
>
>Yes, it is an old PC, but from what I have heard, Linux runs well on
>an old PC compared to Windows.
>
>I would like to try this out - found an RedHat60 disc and try to do a
>FTP bootnet install.
>
>(The old PC does not have an CDROM drive, so I mounted the disk on a
>WEB server).
>
>The bootnet.img disk booted perfektly, at the netcard was accepted.
>Filled out the following info and clicked "OK", and it started to
>transfer files from the webserver, but froze up at the screen saying:
>
>"Loading second stage ramdisk"
>
>What seems to be the problem? Inkompatible hardware?
Sounds like it might be trying to create some swap space for itself
and runs into problems. I'd give the hard disk a thorough going over
with Norton and other such utilities.
You may try asking the question to the site admins from where you're
d/ling the stuff from, it might be something that they're familiar
with.
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Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
1:25pm up 2 days, 22:01, 5 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Light Weight web browser suggestions?
Date: 3 Apr 2000 16:02:03 GMT
Scribbling furiously, Rob Tolman managed to write....
: How about an X version?
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/x11/web%20browsers.html
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Big Daddy
Bacon & eggs - Hens are involved but pigs are committed.
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any web based free e-mail system run on Linux??
Date: 3 Apr 2000 16:02:56 GMT
Scribbling furiously, Calvin managed to write....
: I want to find a web based free e-mail system that running on Linux???
: is there any one?? Or i need to write one myself?
try looking on freshmeat. there are several. I use Endymion's mailman
now, myself.
(I speak of free web-based mail CLIENTS, for an existing machine on the
'net already...)
--
Big Daddy
Opportunity knocks only once, if you hear a second knock it's
probably a Jehovah's witness.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: serial port
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:10:09 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to determine which unix device is assigned to my
external serial port, and/or how to assign a device to this port?
Thanks,
Carson
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Senior Architect
DMR Consulting Group
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations Please
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:23:56 -0500
I downloaded RedHat 6.2 for FREE! Unless you are wanting the commercial
software that is included in the boxed Distro you can find all the
documentation you need on the web for free.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Light Weight web browser suggestions?
Date: 3 Apr 2000 16:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:14:42 -0400, Rob Tolman wrote:
>Any suggestions/ recommendations for light weight web browser?
>Netscape is too much for my machine. Running Slackware 7.
>
Does this include Netscape 3.04? It's smaller and more reliable
than more recent versions.
Bob T.
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From: Phillip Sebree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Have linux installed now what?
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:30:02 GMT
i am trying to learn to use linux. I have a pc which the installation was
sucessful. Now i need so directions on what to do with it.
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations Please
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:26:05 -0500
I downloaded RedHat 6.2 for FREE! Unless you are wanting the commercial
software that is included in the boxed Distro you can find all the
documentation you need on the web for free.
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From: Dennis Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reading ntfs partition
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:03 -0400
Johannes Nix wrote:
> Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > You don�t need a special tool, ntfs is supported by the kernel (if
> > compiled in). You can mount your ntfs partition by typing
> > "mount -t ntfs partition mountpoint"
>
> I suppose you can write to NTFS now ?
>
> A colleague of mine is always very happy when he comes to reinstall
> NT. He says if he had a tool which lets him remove some files
> sometimes it won't be necessary.
>
> J.
You can write to NTFS now, although it is still experimental.
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Have linux installed now what?
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:51:56 -0400
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 3-Apr-100 Have linux installed
now what?Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] (184*) by
> i am trying to learn to use linux. I have a pc which the
> installation was sucessful. Now i need so directions on what to
> do with it.
Well, what do you *want* to do with it? Write papers?
Do your taxes? Run a mail/news server for numerous users?
Burn CD-RWs?
For distro-independent documentation, check out
http://www.linuxdoc.org
(although many of the docs are probably incl'd with your distro,
commonly installed in /usr/doc)
If you have specific tasks/hardware in mind, the HOWTOs may be useful.
If you're looking for a generic User's Guide, the LDP guides may be
useful.
If you're looking for software not incl'd in your distro, freshmeat.net
may be useful, or alternately rpmfind.net if you're hunting for RPMs.
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From: Dennis Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd dies from SIGHUP
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:57:38 -0400
"Kurt V. Hindenburg" wrote:
> I'm running Slackware7.0 with pppd 2.3.10.
> For some reason I lost connection for
> apparently no reason. log/messages has :
>
> Apr 2 12:01:30 cherrycoke pppd[1459]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Apr 2 12:01:30 cherrycoke pppd[1459]: Connect time 1.3 minutes.
> Apr 2 12:01:30 cherrycoke pppd[1459]: Sent 18265 bytes, received 174392 bytes.
> Apr 2 12:01:30 cherrycoke pppd[1459]: Exit
>
> Any ideas?
> Kurt
I have had a similar problem with the same pppd, but on Redhat 6.1. It will dial
up and as soon as the ppp daemon starts, it hangs up. It could be that i am using
a Winmodem with linux drivers on /dev/ttys14.. but that shouldn't be a problem..
i've tried connecting with minicom, kppp, and linuxconf... all die whenever the
pppd is started.
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:03:38 -0400
From: oolong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommended backup routines
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oolong
Kerry Cox wrote:
> I'm looking for a good backup routine. I have an entire server
> dedicated to doing backups on our local backbone. It has an Athlon
> 600 MHz processor with 128 MB of RAM. It has two NIC cards and has
> the very latest Red Hat 6.2 OS installed. For doing the backups I
> have a HP multi-tape storage device that can hold 6 8GB tapes.
> What are your experiences with dump/restore and/or BRU. I can easily
> but something commercial if needs be, but I was wondering if anyone
> has any input on using the Open-Source programs.
> Also, I'd be very interested in seeing the manner in which anyone
> might back data up. I have about 10 Linux servers that need to be
> backed up periodically. I'd like to architecture this correctly now
> rather than try to change it later on.
> Thanks.
> KJ
>
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<p>Kerry Cox wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'm looking for a good backup routine. I have
an entire server dedicated to doing backups on our local backbone.
It has an Athlon 600 MHz processor with 128 MB of RAM. It has two
NIC cards and has the very latest Red Hat 6.2 OS installed. For doing
the backups I have a HP multi-tape storage device that can hold 6 8GB tapes.
<br>What are your experiences with dump/restore and/or BRU. I can
easily but something commercial if needs be, but I was wondering if anyone
has any input on using the Open-Source programs.
<br>Also, I'd be very interested in seeing the manner in which anyone might
back data up. I have about 10 Linux servers that need to be backed
up periodically. I'd like to architecture this correctly now rather
than try to change it later on.
<br>Thanks.
<br>KJ
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Subject: Re: fatal signal 11
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:40:40 GMT
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andrew> I suspect hardware because it happens at random and at
> Andrew> different places in the 'make'. I also believe that it
> Andrew> happened with SuSE 6.0 *and* SuSE 6.2., not sure though.
> Andrew> SuSE 6.4 will confirm this when it comes out (which is
> Andrew> soon). It happened today with kernels 2.2.10 and
> Andrew> 2.2.14. (when I finally got the compile through).
>
> I have always been able to get past sig 11 errors by simply typing
> `make' again. I don't get these errors during kernel compiles but I
> always get them compiling libraries (which take much longer).
http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CG)
Subject: Cron reboots my system
Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:43:11 EDT
I have two servers running RH 5 something. At the end of February and
again at the end of March my systems rebooted for no obvious reason.
The first time it happened, I thought someone got into the system from
outside, but I didn't find any real evidence of that.
This happened again at the end of March, and in digging around it
looks to me like this is something that cron is doing.
Any ideas on how to check this out? Any ideas for why this is
happening? These servers were set up last April and to my knowledge
this has never happened in the past, and I made no changes in the
system configuration.
Thanks for your help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Foxpro & Linux
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:35:25 GMT
Is there a way to run a foxpro application over Linux or is there a
version of foxpro for Linux?
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:46:37 -0700
From: Doug Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Finding virtual memory info from a kernel module
I am writing a kernel module that locates a process and outputs
information about that process's virtual memory. One piece of info that
I need to find is the virtual memory page that the process's program
counter is pointing to. I am not sure where to look for this
information and would appreciate any help.
A couple of other pieces of info I need and don't know how to find are
if the virtual memory page is dirty and if the page is in physical
memory. Any help on these matters would be appreciated.
Thanks
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition disappeared?
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:51:17 -0400
On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:02:30 GMT, "Jordan Hiller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> You can't unmount / since you are using it.
>> You have to boot a floppy. At the boot:
>> prompt do
>> mount root=/dev/hd??? whatever partition your Linux / is installed on
>
>Are you sure that's exactly right? Typing "mount root=/dev/hdc2" at the
>boot: prompt said something like can't find image "mount".
Your boot image may be different than the ones I used. They all
vary somewhat with dist. and as the dist. change. You may have
to type 'rescue' and insert a rescue disk that has the mout program
on it. Then mount should work. To get particulars see
www.linuxdoc.org
>
>Jordan
>
Mike
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-- Groucho Marx
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From: Lion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:45:21 +0100
In article <8c65en$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johannes Nix
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Better: Linux is encouraging standardization in the somewhat
>fragmented Unix world.
There may be many things that can be said for the Open Source community,
but standardisation is not one of them!
Take audio as an example, there's Free OSS, Commercial OSS and ALSA. All
of which promise compatibility. But after compiling ALSA with OSS
support, my C_Media synth doesn't work any more.
--
Lion
BreadHead - Back By Popular Demand
Sex, Metal & Revolution
http://www.bigfoot.com/~breadhead
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sed and substitute newline--how?
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:46:32 -0400
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:05:24 -0500, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks for the many replies! I got my code working with the following:
>
>sed 's/this/\
>/g' <input.txt >output.txt
Sorry for coming into this thread in the middle, but one thing I
found useful for the pesky \r\n<=>\n Win/Dos <=> Linux is
at the bash prompt, a control-V(^V) tells it to accept the next
char literally, so then you can enter ^M for a \r, for instance
when using tr to delete them. This saves having to put stuff
in a script file.
If it's already been mentioned.. nevermind. But I found that
^V so useful I thought I'd mention it.
Mike
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"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: modify time on files
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:51:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello:
Our Linux box recently crashed and we found some weird things happened
after the crash.
1. The system clock is set correctly with EDT (EST before 04/02).
However, if we try to touch, create, save files, the files will have GMT
as the modify time instead of EDT(EST).
For example:
%date
Mon Apr 3 13:46:49 EDT 2000
%touch ttt
%ls -l ttt
-rw-r--r-- 1 abc user 0 Apr 3 17:47 ttt
2. finger, who and w can't show users on the system even there are users
log on the system.
%w
1:49pm up 1 day, 10:47, 0 users, load average: 1.12, 0.49, 0.22
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
%finger
No one logged on.
3. lastlog shows some invalid data
ter 53.223 Wed Dec 31 19:00 - 19:00 (00:00)
ter 53.223 Wed Dec 31 19:00 - 19:00 (00:00)
ter 53.223 Wed Dec 31 19:00 - 19:00 (00:00)
All comments are welcome.
Thanks in advance!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel vis a vis login process
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Apr 2000 13:07:56 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Brown wrote:
>On Linux (in the 2.0 kernel days), and on other unixes,
>the behavior I'm familiar with is that the login process
>starts the user's login shell, renames it -bash or -ksh
>or whatever, gives the login shell to the init process
>(pid 1) for adoption, and then exits.
>
>I've noticed since using RH 6.0, 6.1, etc., that the
>login process does not exit, but hangs around, and that
>it stays the parent process of the login shell. Is this
>a bug?
>
>I've also noticed that every new window seems to get a
>shell which is named "-bash", which on other unixes and
>on the "old" Linux, only login shells got that name.
>
>This may simply be a bug in the login process, (or I suppose
>something that whoever hacked PAM into it), but certainly
>not the behavior of login that I was taught.
I just booted up Slackware 7, which also uses the 2.2 kernel; (but
not PAM). The login process behaves normally in Slackware (i.e.,
exits after starting the log-in shell, and the log-in shell has
process #1 as the PPID. So the bug is apparently with RedHat's
version of login, which doesn't exit properly.
I did notice, however, that when running "ps jax | more", the
more process often appears in ps as "-bash". Apparently the
forking of a new process causes the process table to receive a
name, "-bash" in this case", which is not updated to the "more"
name until too late to show in the ps output. But going to
another terminal and running ps, shows the "more" name correctly
for that pid.
--
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I messed up my MBR
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:57:53 -0400
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:38:06 +0200, "Catilina"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Never mind, fdisk /mbr fixed my problem :-)
>Now I only need to figure out how to install LILO in a way this doesn't
>happen again...
>Sorry for the fact I've posted this question without looking for the answer
>myself first!
>
>
If you have $50 to spare the easy way is to get Partition Magic 5.0 or
higher and install lilo into the partition you boot Linux from. Then
use Boot Magic that comes with PM to boot all your OSs. Not
suggesting you shell out $50 just for that as you probably can
get Lilo to work, but any time you have Win9x or NT and Linux
on the same hd PM comes in handy to shift partition sizes around
and recover from and avoid partition disasters. If you're an expert
on partitions you can get by with the command line tools, like fdisk,
but if you're like me and too lazy to read all the endless stuff about
which boundaries are compatible with which OS, I just use PM to
resize stuff and it changes my requests slightly so they jive with
Linux, Win9x and NT. Makes things much smoother. :)
Anyway, enjoy. :)
Mike
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"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!! kernel configuration problems
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:02:03 -0400
On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:13:59 -0500, GarbMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You could try patching it up to 2.3.52, which compiled fine for me
>anyways, or even try out one of the 2.3.99-preX ones, but remember that
>you may run into problems with any of the 2.3.x development kernels.
Speaking of patching, what exactly is the mechanism with patch?
I was playing around with it and didn't really fathom how it works.
Does it alter config files and then your recompile the kernel?
The man pages weren't very intuitive. Like anything, the first
time using can be a bit baffling.
TIA
Mike
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