Linux-Misc Digest #154, Volume #24 Sat, 15 Apr 00 03:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Serial-only Linux box problems ("Lee M. Greiner Jr.")
2.3.99-pre5 (asage)
Re: AfterStep default directory? (Silviu Minut)
Re: Linux (Big Daddy)
Re: Linux and C C++ (Christopher Browne)
Re: Equivalent to DOS RAM Drive? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux and C C++ (Dances With Crows)
Getting Linux to appear in Windows NWNeighbourhood ("Christopher Tan Jen Wei")
Re: newbie: Help! Ultra66 & Linux (Silviu Minut)
Re: Graphics using C++ on a X server (Silviu Minut)
Re: creating bootable disk ("David ..")
Re: Getting Linux to appear in Windows NWNeighbourhood ("David ..")
Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD... (Lew Pitcher)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Re: Minimal installation on small harddisk? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Wrote audio CD -- Only Windows can play it it ("Linux User 162950")
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From: "Lee M. Greiner Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Serial-only Linux box problems
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:51:08 GMT
1) You do need to recompile the kernel to allow for serial console. Using a
serial cable with a null modem I am able to connect a serial port from a PC
to the serial port of my my Linux firewall. I receive lilo output, console
messages during boot and console login. Your serial statement in lilo.conf
is correct.
2) You will get a console login by putting "S1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS1
DT9600 vt100" in /etc/inittab. Don't
forget to remove /etc/ioctl.save. Do a man on login for configuring the
serial port to allow root login. I do not allow root login from console.
3) It does not matter whether you have a video card installed.
4) Lilo is limited to 38400 but the console login can be at least 115200( I
have not tried higher ). I believe you need at least a 16550A for speeds
above 19200. Add the following to /etc/gettydefs for 115200:
# 115200 fixed baud Dumb Terminal entry
DT115200# B115200 CS8 CLOCAL CRTSCTS # B115200 SANE -ISTRIP CLOCAL CRTSCTS
#@S login: #DT115200
You need XON/XOFF flow control.
>From the statements in your email I assume you have read serial-console.txt.
If not, it provides relevant info.
Good luck!
"Dave Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently working with RedHat 6.0 (product requirement for now),
> kernel vesion 2.2.5-15 (same). I've recompiled the kernel to allow for a
> serial console.
>
> My lilo.conf file has a "serial=1,9600n8" line in the 'global' section
> and a 'append="console=ttyS1,9600"' line in the kernel section (of the
> kernel in question).
>
> Here's my questions:
>
> 1) I'm not getting any input from the serial terminal. Is this a kernel
> or configuration issue? The serial cable should be good as I have had it
> successfully running getty. (It isn't now.)
> 2) Should I or should I not be getting the console login prompt on my
> serial terminal? I thought I should. Is a serial console only good for
> the console messages but not the console login? Is there another way to
> get this to work properly (i.e., perhaps my modifying /etc/inittab to
> run mingetty on the serial port in question)? I also need to have root
> be able to log on over the serial port, but I remember seeing something
> about that a long time ago WRT telnet root access.
> 3) Is the answer to #2 dependant on whether or not there is a VGA card
> in the system? (I have tried it with or without; I never get a console
> login prompt on the serial terminal.)
> 4) Am I truly limited to 9600 baud? I really need 57600 due to system
> constraints. Is this because it's using the PC BIOS serial routines? If
> so, if I have serial port routines in the BIOS that allow greater rates
> can I hack the kernel source to allow the higher speeds?
>
> Thanks much,
> Dave Newton
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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.3.99-pre5
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:45:57 -0400
Hi there
It looks like I got this kernel to compile, however, I'm getting the
same errors with this one as I had with 2.3.99-pre3, which make me think
it's something else:
at boot time:
-Finding module dependencies lib/modules/2/3/99-pre5/misc /aten.o:
unresolved symbols --> I didn't select aten
-/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_always_defrag is missing -- cannot control
Has anybody run across these errors? Would anyone know how they arise
or if they are serious problems? Everything seems to be running okay,
otherwise.
Allison
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AfterStep default directory?
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:57:19 -0400
The global configuration files are in /usr/share/afterstep or
/usr/local/share/afterstep, depending on the version.
The local files (user specific) are in the user's home directory
~/GNUstep.
Nails wrote:
> Where do I find the AfterStep default directory? I need to turn off
> "edge scroll"
> Many thanks
> Nails
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: 15 Apr 2000 04:53:01 GMT
Scribbling furiously, Pencil Necked Geek managed to write....
: use fdisk: delete partitions, format drive.
and then probably fdisk \mbr, if you installed lilo.
-fdisk; delete all partitions, re-make them how you want them.
-format, install windoze on whatever your C partition is.
-install linux on the other one, and lilo (if you want)
--
Big Daddy
For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux and C C++
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:07:18 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Neal would say:
>I understand that much of Linux is written in C; is there much being
>done recently on the new features of the operating system, kernel
>upgrades in C++?
No.
There's a kernel FAQ that goes into more detail, but it's simpler
to just go with...
No.
--
Bad command. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaay...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Equivalent to DOS RAM Drive?
Date: 15 Apr 2000 01:10:23 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry to followup on my own post, but if you want a really big ramdisk,
you're going to have to insmod the ramdisk driver kind of like so:
#insmod rd rd_size=131072 (131072K==128M)
The default size for the ramdisk is 4M, which I didn't realize until I
played with rd.o a bit. Anyway, HTH.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Linux and C C++
Date: 15 Apr 2000 01:24:07 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:39:26 GMT, Neal
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I understand that much of Linux is written in C
The kernel is written in C; the platform-specific things are
written in assembly.
>is there much being done recently on the new features of the operating
>system
Plenty of kernel work going on.
>kernel upgrades in C++?
As of 2.3.99-pre3, there were no uses of the "class" keyword in the
/usr/src/linux/drivers directory. As I understand it, switching the
kernel code to C++ would be a royal pain in the arse and most certainly
break a few things.
You can find out more about the current state of development at the Kernel
Traffic page: http://kt.linuxcare.com , which is a condensation of the
linux-kernel mailing list. Mention C++ wrt kernel code on that list and
see how many flames you get :-]
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "Christopher Tan Jen Wei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting Linux to appear in Windows NWNeighbourhood
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:41:33 +0800
Hi,
I'm a newbie to linux, so I'll appreciate any help to my questions... I
read through several newsgroups and so far I know that to transfer files
from a linux computer to a windows 9x computer, I can FTP the linux comp.
from the windows computer. Besides using FTP, is there any other way for the
Linux comp. to access the windows shared directories (i.e. via Network
Neighbourhood) and vice-versa, have the Linux Computer appear in the NWN
panel?
I'm running Caldera Open Linux 2.2
Please direct a reply to my email address as well as this newsgroup...
Thanx a million!
< - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
Christopher Tan Jen Wei
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: Help! Ultra66 & Linux
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:55:44 -0400
Not true. No 2.2.x kernel supports it out of the box. There exist patches
for 2.2.x.
However kernels around 2.3.4 and above are supposed to support it by
default. These are developmental kernels though and might not be stable.
Andrew Tkachenko wrote:
> is it truth, that Ultra ATA/66 supported in kernel ver. higher 2.2.10? I
> saw it in a READ.me for Ulotra 66 driver, wich i downloaded from
> promise.com.
> Neither Mandrake 7.0 nor RedHat 6.2 can't find my drives, connected to
> Ultra66. Terrible..:((
> --
> ===========================================
> Buing a Pentium III you can reboot faster
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Graphics using C++ on a X server
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:08:48 -0400
Varun wrote:
> To whom it may concern:
It doesn't concern anyone really.
>
> I have been given an assignment to write code in C++ and generate
> graphics on a X server. I have no idea as how to do it. My instructor says
> I might have to use GTK++. I don't know what it is?
http://www.gtk.org
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/v1/
The Xlib Programming Manual is the bible in Xlib programming. That's the
lowest level. Gtk is much higher level.
You don't have to buy the book, but there are sample programs at the O'Reilly
site.
>
>
> Can you please send me some sample code that I can run or anything like
> that which might help me.
>
> Thanking you,
> Yours sincerely
> Varun Gupta
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: creating bootable disk
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:14:44 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi
> i don't know how to use mkbootdisk command
> pls help me
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
To make a new Rescue floppy.
Login as root, and insert a new floppy.
mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.2.14
To make an Emergency boot disk:
fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
Copy vmlinuz to the floppy disk:
cd /boot
cp vmlinuz /dev/fd0
Find the kernel's root device:
rdev
# will show /dev/hdaXX where XX is partition number
Set kernel's root device:
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdaXX
# where XX is the partition number
Mark the root device as read-only:
rdev -R /dev/fd0 1
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/
ID # 123538
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting Linux to appear in Windows NWNeighbourhood
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:15:34 -0500
Christopher Tan Jen Wei wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a newbie to linux, so I'll appreciate any help to my questions... I
> read through several newsgroups and so far I know that to transfer files
> from a linux computer to a windows 9x computer, I can FTP the linux comp.
> from the windows computer. Besides using FTP, is there any other way for the
> Linux comp. to access the windows shared directories (i.e. via Network
> Neighbourhood) and vice-versa, have the Linux Computer appear in the NWN
> panel?
>
> I'm running Caldera Open Linux 2.2
>
> Please direct a reply to my email address as well as this newsgroup...
> Thanx a million!
>
> < - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
> Christopher Tan Jen Wei
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> < - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
SAMBA
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/
ID # 123538
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,aus.computers.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD...
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 06:30:05 GMT
Tux wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Do I have to reinstall Linux if I forgot my root password, or is there
> some way to get back into the system without doing this...???
Tux, no. You don't reinstall Linux to fix a bad password; that's
Microsoft Mentality speaking.
Boot into single user mode (at the lilo prompt, type 'linux single')
which should put you into a text shell as root, without logging in.
Type the passwd command, and change root's password. Enter the
'telinit 5' or 'telinit 3' command to get to the normal login.
or
Boot from your install/rescue disk, log in as root to that (usually a
known passwd), mount your root partition as /mnt, and edit the
/mnt/etc/passwd and/or /mnt/etc/shadow files to remove root's
password. Reboot, and login as root (no password). Enter the passwd
command to change roots password
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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Reply-To: <btolder>
From: <btolder>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:35:53 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Klaus-Georg Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> Could you please point me to the quality software made by Microsoft?
> Especially the quality part.
> Ok, abysmal quality can be constructed to count as quality. You didn't
> mention the amount of quality in their software.
Check the trade magazines and trade show awards that Microsoft products have
won. Keep in mind these same companies that award microsoft prizes for OS
and Office products also slam microsoft for desktop publishing, financial,
MSN, software, so you can't say the contests are "loaded" or paid for by
Microsoft.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Minimal installation on small harddisk?
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 06:27:04 GMT
In the original post he refers to the fact these suns have small hd's,
and desires to setup a minimium install of linux. So he is not really
setting up x-terminals. He's installing linux, and just using them AS x-
terminals. IE, from the text of his post, I infered that he's got a
kernel and some software on a local HD, now any applications they're
launching are from a server. If he was doing a real xterminal, that
booted from the network, then yes, man pages, etc are meaningless, he
could make a whatever file systems he needed, with whatever programs he
needs, because it would be stored on a server somewhere. I might have
understood his post wrong, but I don't think so.
In article <8d1mrg$eg4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan H N Chin) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >Can't speak against BSD (I like linux and the GPL too much), but
debian
> >is a good choice. You can get icewm, xfree, and a good set of tools
in
> >about 70meg. Choose "standard server", go into dselect and unmark any
> >things you don't need like nfs-server, nis-server, pop and smtp
servers,
> >install, then add the basic xfree stuff. A good place to recover a
few
> >megs is /usr/doc and the man pages, which you may not really need on
> >each and every xterminal.
>
> I don't understand.
>
> How is any of this relevant to running the machine as an X terminal?
> X terminals need run only the server and a chooser locally; all the
> applications (including window manager) can run on the remote client.
>
> These are Suns we are talking about. You don't need to use any local
> disk at all if you are happy to boot and swap over the net (although
> having swap on the box would of course make sense).
>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> > Hi, we have some old Sun IPCs with small 200Mb harddisks. We'd
like
> >to use
> >> > these machines as X terminals. We've tried installing Redhat but
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >even with
> >> > minimal packages chosen we can't seem to meet the 160Mb (40 Mb
swap)
> >> > available. Any suggestions, or should we try something else, i.e.
> >*BSD?
>
> Some of these links are not be directly relevant but may be of
> interest nonetheless:
>
> Converting Old PCs into Standalone X Terminals:
> http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/
>
> Diskless Nodes HOW-TO document for Linux:
> http://www.fokus.gmd.de/linux/HOWTO/Diskless-HOWTO.html
>
> LTC - The Linux Thin Client Project:
> http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~dheltzel/ltc.html
>
> Poor Man's [Diskless] XTerminal - Offical Page:
> http://people.delphi.com/sjc/linux/poor.html
>
> --> SPARC-Linux Xterminal README:
> http://www2.gol.com/users/gaijin/Linux/
>
> Setting up a diskless Linux system:
> http://www.slug.org.au/diskless.html
>
> Teck's Linux diskless PC X-Terminal howto:
> http://web.singnet.com.sg/~leetc/howto/x-terminal.html
>
> -jonathan
>
> --
> Jonathan H N Chin, 1 dan | deputy computer | Newton Institute,
Cambridge, UK
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | systems mangler | tel/fax: +44 1223
335986/330508
>
> "respondeo etsi mutabor" --Rosenstock-Huessy
>
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From: "Linux User 162950" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wrote audio CD -- Only Windows can play it it
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:02:36 +1000
So if CD speed is measured in increments starting at 1 and an audio CD is
1x... can you see anything wrong with your command to write the CD? duh..
Damien
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8d8dg4$lps$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Installed a TEAC CD-W54E CD-RW, got data read/write working just fine.
> So I got cocky and tried to make an audio CD. Ripped a couple tracks
> from a CD with cdparanoia (release 9.7). The .wav files play from the
> hard drive OK. Wrote the tracks out with cdrecord (1.8a24) using the
> command 'cdrecord -v dev=0,0 speed=4 -audio *.wav'. cdrecord goes
> through all the right motions, no errors noted. Trouble is, the CD is
> not recognized by a CD player, or by the CD player in Linux (Mandrake
> 6.1). And, to rub salt in the wounds, the CD *does* play under win95.
>
> Obviously the music is there on the disk. Am I missing something? Is
> it maybe a problem with this CD-RW drive?
>
> I've tried other music tracks, recording at 1x speed, including '-pad'
> in the cdrecord command... I'm stumped. Any suggestions?
>
> Bruce Halco
>
>
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