Linux-Misc Digest #154, Volume #26 Fri, 27 Oct 00 04:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Not so essential command line tools ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ("Michael Westerman")
Need help configuring modem using SuSE (Collene Pearce)
driver jukebox MOD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: problem with serial ports after kernel recompile (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Signal definitions? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: /opt? (Lew Pitcher)
Arranging desktop icons in kde2 ("D. D. Brierton")
Re: Ghost Linux (Rafael - LumesITSupport)
Re: Installation Questions (Eric)
Re: Partition table problem (Eric)
Re: /opt? (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Tim Haynes)
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Tim Haynes)
Work of a cracker or something else? (Janus Loo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:02:31 GMT
Yes, Linksys nic is a tuff one to get working with rh7 (tulip.0). It
needs dependancies to run. I see that you don't like C?
Well i've been using rh for two years now and it still has it's
downside.
Have you tried installing this card using the "expert" selection?
Anyway, maybe you should get a 3com "3c509" isa card. rh7 detects this
card using "expert" install. you can get this card for less than $4 on
ebay. I got myself 4 of these babies. I even got one for 1 cents! no
joke, this card runs great and it's very cheap. Using it on my LRP-box
and two linux clients using cable feed.
Goodluck!
In article <PO2K5.11479$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LinkSys betrayed us!
> I bought a LinkSys LNE100TX ethernet card because it had the box label
> "Linux Tested".
> It came with a driver floppy disk, but it had no driver for Linux.
The
> floppy disk had instructions for installing an old copy of tulip onto
RedHat
> 5.0, which used kernel 2.0; I have RedHat 7.0 w/ kernel 2.2.16. I
have one
> of the later versions of LinkSys LNE100TX, version 4.1, and this
needs the
> latest tulip driver.
> LinkSys should have given us a working binary files with detailed
> step-by-step installation instructions. LinkSys wants us to
*download* the
> necessary files/drivers, but without the drivers, I can't get on the
> internet to download them. The old catch 22; without experience,
can't get
> a job, but without a job, can't get experience.
>
> I went to the tulip web site
http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html , but
> the instructions there were so poor and ambiguous that an average
user could
> never follow. The web site leaves you wondering if there are
multiple ways
> of installing the driver, or one way, but different steps.
> Do I do either "Using the Source RPM Package" or "Installing the
Individual
> Drivers", or do I do both? What does it mean to install "individual"
> drivers? I have *one* card, which needs *one* driver! What do you
mean by
> individual?!
> There's also the section, "Building updated drivers into the
kernel". Do I
> do this in addition to the above instrucitons, or is this something
> separate?!
> I went to the web site http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html , but
this
> web site also has poor instructions, and refers you to somewhere else
to
> learn how to install modules.
>
> Linux has a long way to go before it can become a common platform, if
at
> all. Linux is for hobbiest who have time to tinker with their
computers.
> There are no simple ways to click-and-drag to get things working.
> Everything is a struggle; you have to learn something new for every
petty
> task. Imagine if you had to know how the car's engine transferred
power via
> the transmission system before you can drive your car,... Few of us
know
> how a calculator works, and we take it for granted and use it as a
fuctional
> tool. That's what a computer should be; a functional tool to increase
> productivity. Too much time/effort is required to use Linux.
However,
> Win2K is just as stable, but easy and user-friendly. How much is my
time
> worth? How much is Win2K? Win2K starts to seem pretty attractive,...
>
> -----
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Not so essential command line tools
Date: 26 Oct 2000 13:11:05 GMT
"J.H.Delaney" <this.is.my.forewall.against.spam@com> wrote in message
news:5UJJ5.26809$tL4.318009@zonnet-reader-1...
> Recently I have been starting to use linux at home, so I can have a *nix
not
> just at work, but at home too. Unfortunately, I seem to be missing some
fun
> but not too essential commands, like fortune, banner, calendar (no, not
> 'cal', 'calendar') and others... Yes I know that these commands and others
> like it can hardly be called 'essential', but I sort of have gotten
> accustomed to them, and was just wondering if linux version of these were
> available, and where I can find them?
'calendar' is hard to find but out there somewhere -- I found it but
don't remember where. what seems to help is to do a search (at, e.g,
http://www.google.com/linux) on '/bin/calendar' -- otherwise you get
lots and lots of hits on programs very different from the simple one
you want.
good luck. hth.
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:52:07 +1000
> > The only time it goes down is updates...
>
> They still haven't fixed that?
nor has linux (the kernal)
try patching that without rebooting.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collene Pearce)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.laptops,comp.os.linux.portables
Subject: Need help configuring modem using SuSE
Date: 27 Oct 2000 05:52:27 GMT
I have a Compaq Presario 1200XL-119. I have a new
install of Suse 6.4 on it. Naturally, it did not recognize
my modem or sound board. They both appear to be PCI devices.
Output from an lspci command shows a Lucent 56k WinModem (rev01)
at IRQ 9, Memory at f4000000, I/O Ports at 1838 and at 1400.
(what kind of a port addr is 1838, anyway)
I've downloaded the lucent driver and tried to install it. However,
when I try to install it with 'ltinst", it fails on the
"/sbin/insmod -v -f ltmodem" command, with the error message:
"insmod: ltmodem: no module by that name found"
However, the /dev/ttyS14 device node is there and the ltmodem.o
gets delivered to the correct directory.
The Lucent driver readme says to configure "minicom" after running
the driver install. However, there is NO "minicom" on the machine.
So, I tried to use the gui modem setup. It checks for the presence of
a modem, etc and gives the following error message:
"neither modem or ISDN device found".
So, now, where do I go from here? I'm certain the device
node is there and ok. However, the driver module, the logical
device, is unknown to the OS.
Any suggestions about how I can get this modem configured.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: driver jukebox MOD
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:22:58 GMT
bonjour,
Je cherche un driver linux du domaine de l'informatique libre pour un
jukebox de disque optique HP surestore40fx.
Merci de votre aide.
Cordialement.
fred
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: problem with serial ports after kernel recompile
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:57:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer) writes:
>I recently installed SuSE 7.0 and just compiled my own kernel with the
>following options for the serial ports:
>standard/generic (dumb) serial support: enabled (not as module)
[...]
You'll have to edit /etc/conf.modules and/or to delete the serial
module that was in your /lib/modules/ subdirectory . If you're loading
the serial driver twice, it won't work.
Michael
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Signal definitions?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:20:51 -0400
Micer wrote:
[some snipped]
> QUESTION: What on earth do all these signals mean? Can anyone point me to
> documentation on this stuff? Why don't the MAN pages for kill or killall
> document the various signals? And what is the difference between saying
> "killall -SIGHUP" and "killall -HUP"? Finally, what does HUP stand for? (the
> best I came up with on the web is "HUng Up".
As for SIGHUP, it originated from the servicing of dial-in (modem
connected) terminals. It's the signal that Unix sends to processes
attached to a terminal when that terminal disconnects from the system
and Hangs UP the modem. The 'nohup' utility was written to allow users
to log off after starting long-running background processes; it prevents
the HUP signal from reaching the process.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /opt?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:29:35 -0400
I've always looked at the directory structure with an eye to history...
/bin was where Unix system binaries went
/usr/bin was where Unix application binaries went
/var was where your Unix Value Added Reseller put supplied
apps
/usr/local/bin was where the local unix administrator put homegrown
apps
/opt was where the local unix administrator put purchased
apps
For example, buy a Motorola Unix system and get
/bin, /usr/bin containing the SYSV binaries (system and application)
/var containing the Motorola Lifeworks package, etc.
/usr/local/bin empty for your own use, where you'd put homegrown apps
/opt empty for your own use, where you'd put WordPerfect
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: "D. D. Brierton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arranging desktop icons in kde2
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:22:25 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am I missing something obvious or should I post this as a wishlist to
the kde folks?
I can't find a way to arrange the desktop icons to my
own satisfaction. There seems to be no "snap to grid" setting; if I
right-click on the desktop and choose "Line up Icons" they are
left-aligned by their text-width, as opposed to being centered
which is what I would have expected; if I choose "Arrange Icons"
they are put into the physical alignment I want but are rearranged
in order. What I want is that they should be kept in the order I
have roughly placed them in but aligned along a grid in which what
counts is their icon, not their text width.
TIA
Darren
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
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From: Rafael - LumesITSupport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghost Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:46:15 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes , Ghost will work. I use Ghost to ghost machines with Linux and
Windows preinstalled.
Rafael
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program that will ghost Linux in the same way as
> Norton Ghost works in Windows?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation Questions
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:48:52 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eugene Calderaro wrote:
>
> I have Windows 95 on my PC and would like to know how to set up Linux w/o
> using System Commander
That's not very much information.
Do you have the free space to install linux into?
if not free up space (not free space inside the windows partition, but
free HDD space)
the put the linux CD in the disc drive and reboot.
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition table problem
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:52:23 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jerry, L, Kreps, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Well...
> >
> > So I decide to install Caldera OpenLinux. I find 2.3 at the store, buy
> > it, install, have a few glitches at first with LILO and my video card,
> > but get it working correctly eventually as a dual-boot with Windows
> > 98. Then I install Microsoft Office 97. Big mistake. Computer
> > crashes next time I boot. NDD reports invalid partition table.
> > Windows works fine. Try to boot Linux. Nothing doing -- can't find
> > root partition. fdisk won't correct it, and I cannot easily back up my
> > hard drive, because the only writable removable media I have are 3.5"
> > floppy disks. Is there any help to be found in comp.os.linux.misc?
> >
> > ------------> Drake Wilson
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> And there was really no reason for that crash (why would an office suite be
> interested in the Master Boot Record?) except that Bill wants to play "Dr
> Dos" games with Linux.
> If you have a bootable Linux floppy (there should have been one in the
> Caldera box) then you can boot it and access your system that way. Then
> rerun LILO.
unless the partition table is really messed up.
If you made a hardcopy of the partition-table, you can restore with
fdisk. If not
try to get svend-olaf mikkelsen's findpart.exe and try to get help from
him.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: /opt?
Date: 27 Oct 2000 09:52:37 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>I've always looked at the directory structure with an eye to history...
>
>/bin was where Unix system binaries went
...binaries essential enough to be on the same partition as the root
partition (essential *system* binaries goes into '/sbin').
>/usr/bin was where Unix application binaries went
...that doesn't need to be on the root partition.
(I'm not quite sure of what the difference between an "application"
and a "binary" (as in "program") is. I always thought they were the
same thing. I see e.g. 'ls' as a small application.)
>
>/var was where your Unix Value Added Reseller put supplied
>apps
According to FHS, "var" is "variable data" as in pid files, mail
spool, news spool, lock files, formatted manual files, logs etc.
I doubt that you find very many mentions of "var" as an acronym for
"Value Added Reseller" in the history of Unix. Will be delighted if
you could give me a pointer.
>
>/usr/local/bin was where the local unix administrator put homegrown
>apps
>/opt was where the local unix administrator put purchased
>apps
>
>For example, buy a Motorola Unix system and get
>/bin, /usr/bin containing the SYSV binaries (system and application)
>/var containing the Motorola Lifeworks package, etc.
Strange... but I guess everyone's free to improvise.
>/usr/local/bin empty for your own use, where you'd put homegrown apps
>/opt empty for your own use, where you'd put WordPerfect
>
Apart from Motorolas strange use of '/var', this looks like it would
be "FHS compatible". If I was to buy this Motorola Unix (haven't heard
of it before, will look into it) I would move the Motorola stuff into
'/opt'.
/A
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From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: 27 Oct 2000 08:51:25 +0100
Reply-To: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> LinkSys betrayed us!
[snip]
> LinkSys should have given us a working binary files
For what? Kernel modules? Sod that for a lark.
[snip]
> Linux has a long way to go before it can become a common platform, if at
> all.
That's OK. Given the average luser out there, I'd be quite glad of it
staying of some appeal to those of us who've tried our best to support it
over the past 7 years rather than just jumping on the bandwagonised works
of others.
[snip]
> Too much time/effort is required to use Linux. However,
> Win2K is just as stable, but easy and user-friendly. How much is my time
> worth? How much is Win2K? Win2K starts to seem pretty attractive,...
Go ahead, bake my quiche, but I challenge *you* to have a bootable floppy
that installs 2k with custom options & packages in 5 minutes, ready in
under a day.
~Tim
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From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: 27 Oct 2000 08:52:48 +0100
Reply-To: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> But come on, you can't be seriously saying that learning Linux is as easy
> to learn as windows?
Far easier and a damned sight more logical. Next?
~Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Janus Loo)
Subject: Work of a cracker or something else?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:02:02 GMT
Hi everyone,
I have been unlucky with Linux for the past few months. I used RH
Linux since the end of last year and have had several problems with
it. I reinstalled and reconfigured my system for about 4 to 5 times
now. Little mistakes I made caused the Linux system to not funciton
properly. I admit that I did not have any experience with it and was
making too many mistakes. But I learned from it. The fs even crashed
on me and I succeeded in recovering all my data, without any backup.
OK, that was it. I reinstalled everything again like 2 weeks ago becos
my Linux system somehow did not allow me to log in after a reboot.
Root password did not work, normal users did not work as well. I tried
booting Linux into single mode and used passwd to change the default
root password. Still, Linux did not allow me to log on. After the new
installation, everything worked perfectly. Yesterday, while I was
working in Windows(as a client connected to Linux using Samba), I
suddenly saw all my files were disappearing before my eyes. Every
directories I clicked on generated a fatal error. When I switched to
the server console, I noticed I can't do anything anymore on the
system. None of the commands worked or they gave an error "cannot
execute ...", things like that. So I rebooted the whole system and I
got these warnings:
INIT: Unable to open an initial console
INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc"
INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
And it froze here. When I did a CTRL-ALT-DEL, the system responded
with the message "cannot create shutdown.pid" or something like that.
I couldn't even boot with my Linux boot disk. Had to boot using the RH
CD. And when I mounted my hdb, where all my data resided, nothing was
there!!!! Empty!!!! Gone!!! How come I wondered?? Crackers? Virus? I
think a cracker did this to my system. But I don't know how far a
cracker can make his way into my system. I did not allow remote root
access, 12 characters long pasword, a strong rule firewall from
TrinityOS. These are the things which I know I should do to secure my
system. My system is connected to a cable modem. Now everything is
gone, how did this happen?
I needed to know what has gone wrong here and would like to know the
reason. Please help.
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