Linux-Misc Digest #155, Volume #24 Sat, 15 Apr 00 06:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux hangs (Rafael)
Linux newsgroup -bad experience (Rafael)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Christopher Smith")
Re: mail problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: do i need Partition Magic? ("Pencil Necked Geek")
Re: Linux newsgroup -bad experience (Andreas Kahari)
FTP Upgrade Craps Out ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Weird problem with virtual terminals - NOT RESOLVED ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Weird problem with virtual terminals - NOT RESOLVED ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux newsgroup -bad experience ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34? (Kenny Zhu Qili)
Re: Weird problem with virtual terminals ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Re: do i need Partition Magic? ("Lenine Liebenberg")
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux hangs
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:50:01 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My Epox motherbord dont have built in sound card
Rafael
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok had another thought and I will be checking it when I get back
> tonight.
> The Epox motherboard comes with a built in sound device.
> If for some reason both sound devices are seen by Linux and there is an
> IRQ conflict that may be locking things up.
> Though I don't understand how it would lock up when not in X. Could
> this be? I will have to check. Anyone else using an MB with onboard
> sound and a sound card? Did you have to disable the onboard somehow?
>
> Help?
> Mike
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My RedHat (6.1 and 6.2) Linux hangs, both in text mode and XWindow. It
> > hangs in very unusual way, to restart computer I have to turn power
> off,
> > reseting button did'nt restart, it just turn of display.
> >
> > Please help me?
> >
> > I have Epox motherbord, AMD K3 III 400Mhz procesor, 128 Mb RAM, 27GB
> IBM UATA 66 HardDisk.
> >
> > how to correct this problem?
> >
> > Rafael
> > P.S Please send answer also to my e-mail . Thanks
> >
> >
>
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Linux newsgroup -bad experience
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:00:15 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have very bad experiance with Linux NewsGroup. It is very dificulkt to
get answer for problems. Why I always get answer in Microsoft Windows
News, are Linux people not so friendly like they should be?
I am realy disapointed.
What's your opinion?
Maybe somebody can give advise where to write when you have problems
with Linux?
Rafael
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:53:26 +1000
"Gerald Willmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 14 Apr 2000, Robie Basak wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:33:25 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch said:
> > >Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:HxrJ4.2775$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > The aforementioned mouse.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry, but I saw a similar mouse advertised in the late 80s.
> > >> It failed because it was too expensive, but MS did NOT innovate it.
> > >
> > >Interesting. Nobody else in the universe except for you has seen this
> > >mythical mouse. You have no names and no way to prove your statements.
> > >Name the mouse and manufacturer or retract your statement.
> >
> > IIRC, Xerox invented the mouse/GUI. Apple took the idea from them
(Lisa?),
> > and Microsoft from Apple.
>
> I think they are talking about optical mice. I'm using one right here on
> my 1991 Sun IPC. So M$ did not invent it, contrary to what you might have
> read. I wouldn't consider it a big innovation, though. Wheel or optical,
> I couldn't care less as long as it moves the cursor.
An optical mouse that works on any surface ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mail problem
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 07:43:51 GMT
I need a little clarification is your wife trying to send to your same
SMTP server, you said different pop server with the same client, I get
the impression you may also imply same SMTP server?
If thats the case, this sounds more like your ISP is trying to not
become an unwitting spam provider. Your wifes setup should probably send
mail to her own SMTP, because her email address (I imagine) is
different. If she uses your SMPT server your server provider has
probably set the system up to not accept foreign email addresses. (Mine
will not accept addresses that have invalid domain names)
jollyroger
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Mandrake 7.0 installed. As a user I have no problems
> sending or receiving mail from my pop mail server. My wife,
> on the other hand, can receive mail from her (different) pop
> mail server but when she tries to send, using the same mail
> clients I use, she cannot.
>
> If I send mail with pine, netscape mail client, kde's mail
> client...no problem. If she tries to send mail with netscape,
> she gets a message that there was an error (not helpful).
> If she sends mail with kde's mail client, she gets an error
> as soon as DATA is sent. A message window then pops up
> saying that a "SPAM-relay was detected" and gives an
> "error 554". Huh? I don't understand what the problem is.
> My mail is setup and works fine but her's wont get past
> my system.
>
> I have tried looking at mail settings via linuxconf but see
> nothing that I can pinpoint as a cause for my wife not being
> able to send while I can.
>
> I have tried disabling spam-filtering in linuxconf but that
> didn't work either.
>
> Anyone? Can anyone help me?
>
> patrick
>
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From: "Pencil Necked Geek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: do i need Partition Magic?
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 03:33:54 -0500
Reply-To: "Pencil Necked Geek" <.>
A few questions:
1. Does your mandrake installation work correctly? How about windows? (other
than displaying the extra drive)
2. When you partitioned your drives during the install, did you make your
linux partiton a FAT partition by mistake?
3. If you view your partition table with fdisk, what does it look like?
4. What size did you try to make your patitions? how many did you make?
5. Have you been receiving any strange error messages? If so, what are
they?
6. Is your Win partiton a FAT32 (for large HD support?)
7. What is "funky stuff"?
Just wondering.
brandonkylecarter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i have tried to install linux mandrake 7.0 to no avail. but when i was
> trying to setup the partition i messed up my windows partition. i
> physically have a 20.4 GB hard drive in my PC. now when i click on my
> computer to see my drives, it shows two hard disks plus all of the normal
> stuff. one of the disks shows 10.5 GB and the other 17.5 GB!! now the
> contents of the 10.5 GB is the normal disk, appears as always. the 17.5 GB
> disk has funky stuff in it. i want my plain old 20.4 GB ONE DRIVE BY
> ITSELF!
>
> would partition magic solve this problem??
>
> thanks
>
> --
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux newsgroup -bad experience
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:24:15 GMT
Hej Rafael
I didn't find very many posts from you in this NG, so I don't know what
you base your claim on. However, Deja.com might be a little slow on
updating its search DB, so I might be mistaken. Also, I don't really
understand what you mean by "difficult".
This NG has ".misc" in the end of its name, meaning that almost any type
of GNU/Linux related question might spring up. There are very few people
that have the in-depth knowledge to answer all kinds of misc questions
and hence it is more common to give redirectional answers (I usually
refer to <URL:http//www.linuxdoc.org/> where most questions are actually
answered).
For access to greater knowledge, try any of the other GNU/Linux NGs. On
Deja.com there is just under 20 of them available, and you discovered
the X and the Setup groups yourself already. There is a greater chance
of e.g. a really good network-person reading the networking NG than it
is for him/her to read the misc NG... (Aw, my English is going to heck.
You know what I mean).
There seems to be a common trait (sorry if I misused that word, I'm a
simple Swede) to GNU/Linux and Unix people to help by referring to
documentation and I think this is a VERY GOOD THING. It forces the user
to teach himself/herself.
Administrating a system is not easy, and getting an answer on the form
"Do this and it'll work" can sometimes be disasterous. It's safer to get
the whole documentation than just the reformulated part of it that
*maybe* solves the problem.
I really hope that was an answer.
I have to disconnect, my phone bill is too high!
Cheers
/A
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have very bad experiance with Linux NewsGroup. It is very dificulkt
to
> get answer for problems. Why I always get answer in Microsoft Windows
> News, are Linux people not so friendly like they should be?
> I am realy disapointed.
> What's your opinion?
> Maybe somebody can give advise where to write when you have problems
> with Linux?
>
> Rafael
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTP Upgrade Craps Out
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:51:17 GMT
Greetings,
I tried an FTP upgrade from a very fast server at my university, but
all goes well up until when the installation process comes to the
part when it tries to find packages to upgrade, then it just craps
out.
This is the error message I get:
installed exited abnormally -- received signal 11
Sending termination signals -- done
Sending kill signals -- done
disabling swap...
/tmp/swap/hdb4
unmounting filesystems.../mnt/sysimage/home
/mnt/sysimage/proc
/mnt/sysimage/usrs
/mnt/sysimage
/mnt/runtime
/mnt/runtime
/dev/pts
/proc
You may reboot your system
I'm using RH6.0 with some upgraded rpms already, with a dual boot box
of which, the linux partitions sit on hdbx. Please help me out.
TIA.
Regards,
Steve K. Lee
P.S. Please remove "NO", "SPAM", and ".invalid" if replying in
private.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Weird problem with virtual terminals - NOT RESOLVED
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:49:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:06:10 GMT, Dan Fulbright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> have you tried typing in:
>
> setterm -reset
>
> I've had "garbled" displays in the past (but with "line draw" characters after
> using cat on a binary file). I've found that just logging off the VT and
> logging back on reset my problem.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John
>
Hi. I'm sure this won't help.I have the same problem, and everything from
setterm to sgetty don't work.Changing also the default TERM don't do. Please
help!! And please don't write replies about compiling kernels or upgrading
the distribution because I know by sure that will NOT work.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Weird problem with virtual terminals - NOT RESOLVED
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:57:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:06:10 GMT, Dan Fulbright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> have you tried typing in:
>
> setterm -reset
>
> I've had "garbled" displays in the past (but with "line draw"
characters after
> using cat on a binary file). I've found that just logging off the VT
and
> logging back on reset my problem.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John
>
Hi.
This solution will not help.
I have the same problem of Dan, and nothing from setterm to sgetty
will do.Neither changing the default TERM.And I know for sure
that neither rebuilding a more suitable kernel nor upgrading
distribution will do.
I'm using Mandrake (RedHat) 5.2 .
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux newsgroup -bad experience
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:14:08 GMT
Probably the best advice I can give is don't give a sh*t when someone
starts being unfriendly. I will admit that we tend to point you to
documentation rather than give stright anwsers. This is because there
are often variables that come up depending on what hardware/software you
are using that are impossible to try to remember first of all and second
would make such long posts that would make sifting through the
information difficult. (Documentation is often better organized that
quick posts). Remember that Linux can be set up anyway a person wants,
or for that matter any way a distrubution wants. This throws many
variables into your system that are not present in Windows, OS2, Be,
etc. newsgroups. Thoes are centrally controlled, and we thrive on mix
and matching. For thoes that just sigh, because they have forgotten how
a new person to this might feel, this is their problem Nice thing is you
don't even have to anwser them. Some just forget that their knowledge,
and experience, did not come overnight, and some plain feel bigger when
they put other [Less experinced users] down. Some Macho geek thing :)
jollyroger
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have very bad experiance with Linux NewsGroup. It is very dificulkt
to
> get answer for problems. Why I always get answer in Microsoft Windows
> News, are Linux people not so friendly like they should be?
> I am realy disapointed.
> What's your opinion?
> Maybe somebody can give advise where to write when you have problems
> with Linux?
>
> Rafael
>
>
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From: Kenny Zhu Qili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34?
Date: 15 Apr 2000 09:29:23 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <8d7g93$3bk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kenny Zhu Qili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>Hi guys, I'm using kppp to dialup with my v.90 modem. I wonder if there's way to
>downgrade my modem to v.34 so that I can connect to a 33.6 line. I tried the init
>string AT&F+MS=11, but it didn't work. Please help me. Thanks.
> The two modems will negotiate it themselves. You do nto need to do
> anything. If it does not negotiate then there are other problems.
Thanks for your help. But I really can't get it to work. When I dial to a 33.6 line I
always get the conitnuous short beeps rather than the usual noise. I check my modems
manual (It's a Mercury 56K), it says it supports v34 as well... I don
't know what to do ...
Kenny
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Weird problem with virtual terminals
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:29:15 GMT
Just a shot in the dark here, but I remember a similar problem with an
8MB SiS 6326 trying to use all 8MB. These card are awful, If you have
that chipset, you are going to have some problems. but the XFree86
version 3.3.6 has corrected many of thoes, (Still woulden't try all 8MB
though). In any case you can change this in your XF86Config file, if you
dab around in it, you should find the section with the memory amount for
your card, caution there may be more than one. I would try the newest
version of the XFree86 first and see if there are any improvements.
There was a post some time ago where a developer and an end user were
trying to work some oddities out, and the developer was commenting on
the fact that the memory obuve the 4MB mark had some odd condition that
didn't allow the server to work correctly, plus the thing is damm slow
anyway. Good luck
jollyroger
P.S. make sure you are using the correct server for your card as well,
don't just trust probing.
In article <8bo7th$frh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dan Fulbright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having a strange problem with my virtual terminals. Every now and
> then (it's happened twice), my virtual terminals 1-6 get completely
> garbled. That is, when I hit Alt-F1 through Alt-F6, my screen is
filled
> with some remnant of what is on my X display (which is running on VT
7).
> I can still type commands blindly (and the screen changes, but it is
> still very unreadable), but I cannot view any text at all. So far, the
> only way I have been able to fix it is to <GASP> reboot. Is there any
> way to force my VTs to return to their normal text mode?
> I'm running Red Hat Linux 6.1 (XFree86 3.3.5). The same thing happened
> with Red Hat 5.2.
> Thanks in advance.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:43:35 GMT
In <8d8jqu$u08$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JediPenguin:
[Snip...]
|> Problem is, almost any CD I use has a
|> graphical boot CD and really taxes my system.
FWIW, Turbolinux 4.0 Workstation installed via its bootfloppy on my 486DX66
with 12MB RAM and 540MB disk. IIRC they ask for at least 16MB RAM, and just
forget 6.0; the bootfloppy init just hangs. The workstaion package excludes
X, program development, etc. and takes about 230MB (?) disk, which makes it
a great little firewall or webserver box. It rarely if at all uses swap but
without X it just doesn't really need it, basically.
The downside of this compared to Slack is I was not able to customize it in
that only 4 (?) basic prebuilt packages are available. There might be a way
to customize an install but I didn't have time to find it.
And I agree that having non-CLI X-only installs is just Winblows silly.
[Snip...]
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Reply-To: "Lenine Liebenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Lenine Liebenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: do i need Partition Magic?
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:59:28 +0200
He who does not read the HOWTO will run into big dilemma.
brandonkylecarter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i have tried to install linux mandrake 7.0 to no avail. but when i was
> trying to setup the partition i messed up my windows partition. i
> physically have a 20.4 GB hard drive in my PC. now when i click on my
> computer to see my drives, it shows two hard disks plus all of the normal
> stuff. one of the disks shows 10.5 GB and the other 17.5 GB!! now the
> contents of the 10.5 GB is the normal disk, appears as always. the 17.5 GB
> disk has funky stuff in it. i want my plain old 20.4 GB ONE DRIVE BY
> ITSELF!
>
> would partition magic solve this problem??
>
> thanks
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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