Linux-Misc Digest #155, Volume #25 Mon, 17 Jul 00 02:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Compressing filesystem ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: X apps crashed alot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PPP compression revisited ("Micromans")
Re: ddate command ("Lord Apophis")
Re: COMMERCIAL: Xi Graphics Releases Standardized GUI for Linux (s. keeling)
Re: Wine in 256-color mode (Reinhard Karcher)
Re: Changing Prompt Color (s. keeling)
Re: 98 and Linux (Paul E. Larson)
Re: numerical computations under Linux (David Steuber)
Re: PHOTOPAINT INSTALL FAILTURE (Juergen Leeb)
Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Can=B4t?= mount 2GB windows partitions (David Efflandt)
Re: programming tools and techniques (Alan Coopersmith)
Re: Telnet and Backspace Problem (David Efflandt)
Re: Pentium Kernel compile problems with PGCC 2.95.3 ("David ..")
Re: undelete directory? (Dave Salovesh)
gcc, can't determine hostname now (J Bland)
Re: Changing Prompt Color ("David ..")
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compressing filesystem
Date: 17 Jul 2000 03:09:26 GMT
Michael Greulich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: is there any filesystem with a built in compression. I'm trying to find
ext2compr, and also those that read dos stackered or compressed drives.
Search on the web. Peter Moulder was the maintainer.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X apps crashed alot
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:20:07 -0700
On or about Sun, 16 Jul 2000 05:49:07 -0400, tvn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scrivened:
> Many of the apps I ran in KDE crashed ... or freezed, (Netscape
> (especially),
(Unfortunately) very par for the course. I'm on a Debian GNU/Linux system
ugraded frequently via apt-get, and I have been going through cycles over
the past 3-4 months of extreme instability. With java/javascript disabled,
I can get a few days to a week or more out of a browser session.
More recently it's been more on the scale of a few hours, typically.
Frustrating.
> Aim, Compupic etc etc) at least 3 -4 times / day.
Not familiar with these apps. Generally, I find older stuff distributed
with source tends to be more stable than more recent or proprietary apps.
A lot of the high-chrome stuff is pretty piss-poor quality, and Netscape is
the prominant leader of this pack (may not be the worst, but it's a well
known offender).
> Is there a
> reason or fix for this symtoms ? These apps don't crash on my other
> machine running winnt.
Totally different ball of wax. Usually I trace these issues to library
dependencies, and small missmatches between what the app was built for and
what I'm running currently.
Linux as a whole tends to be stable. Apps have their ups and downs, but
they don't typically take the system down with them.
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From: "Micromans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP compression revisited
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:45:27 -0700
If I put these lines into the /etc/conf.modules file what useful thing will
it actually do? (besides get rid of the warnings messages).
Micromans
"Bill Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ktkfo$57$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In <wUkc5.17705$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Micromans"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]I get the following messages in the RedHat 6.0 'messages' log file when
> ]using 'pppd', (by the way 'pppd' works successfully ... I use it with
squid
> ]acting as a caching proxy server):
>
> ]Can't locate module ppp-compress-21
> ]Can't locate module ppp-compress-26
> ]Can't locate module ppp-compress-24
>
> Don;t worry about it.
>
> ]This item was addressed in a previous post to this thread (Mathew Nimmo,
> ]7/4/00, 8:28am) in which it was suggested that some lines be added to the
> ]'etc/conf.modules', and further, that the user did not share any
compression
> ]types with their ISP.
>
> ]QUESTION #1: Why don't I have an 'etc/conf.modules' file on my standard
> ]RedHat 6.0 installation where pppd is working successfully? (Should I
just
> ]create a 'conf.modules'?).
> That is /etc/conf.modules, not etc/conf.modules.
> I suspect you do have one, but if not, create it and put nimmo's stuff
> in.
>
>
> ]QUESTION #2: How can I tell if I 'share any compression types with my
ISP'?
>
> If you use the debug option and you set up syslog properly you can see
> the CPP negotiation come to a successful conclusion. Unless your ISP
> uses Linux, you will not. It does not matter. You modem compresses
> anyway.
>
> ]QUESTION #3: How can I ensure that I get some sort (any sort) of
compression
> ]over the dial-up phone line to my ISP when using pppd for the connection?
> ]Although the pppd works successfully it oftentimes seems much slower that
> ]when I dial using Windows NT Workstation to my ISP.
>
> See above
>
>
>
>
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From: "Lord Apophis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ddate command
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:42:20 +1000
thanx mate
apophis
"John Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Lord Apophis wrote:
>
> > oh and man ddate does not work on the comps at school
>
> "ddate" converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates.
> Discordianism, if you don't already know, purports to be a
> religion which worships Eris, the goddess of chaos. To quote
> R.A. Wilson, detractors feel Discordianism is just an elaborate
> joke pretending to be a religion, but supports claim it is a true
> religion pretending to be an elaborate joke. Decide for
> yourself. From the Jargon File:
>
> Discordianism /dis-kor'di-*n-ism/ n.
>
> The veneration of Eris, a.k.a. Discordia; widely popular among
> hackers. Discordianism was popularized by Robert Shea and
> Robert Anton
> Wilson's novel "Illuminatus!" as a sort of self-subverting
> Dada-Zen
> for Westerners -- it should on no account be taken seriously
> but is
> far more serious than most jokes. Consider, for example, the
> Fifth
> Commandment of the Pentabarf, from "Principia Discordia": "A
> Discordian is Prohibited of Believing What he Reads."
> Discordianism is
> usually connected with an elaborate conspiracy theory/joke
> involving
> millennia-long warfare between the anarcho-surrealist
> partisans of
> Eris and a malevolent, authoritarian secret society called the
> Illuminati. See Religion in Appendix B, Church of the
> SubGenius, and
> ha ha only serious.
>
> The Church of the SubGenius has a web site with the Principia
> Discordia and other information on Discordianism.
>
> --
>
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL: Xi Graphics Releases Standardized GUI for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 04:09:29 GMT
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 00:22:24 -0400, Gerald Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Debbie Kreuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> Debbie
> Why are you sending a PGP SIGNED MESSAGE to a newsgroup??? It's MESSY!!!
If you looked carefully enough, you might have noticed it was signed
by the moderator of c.o.l.announce
> And women think they are smarter than men!!! <wry-grin>
I think you should consider taking that attitude problem to your
favourite therapist.
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:46:01 +0200
From: Reinhard Karcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wine in 256-color mode
John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have some old Windows programs I'd like my daughter to be able
>to play under wine. They start OK, but hang because they only
>want to run in 256-color mode. Is there a way to tell wine to
>open specific programs in 256-color mode while leaving X in a
>higher color depth? I've been trying to get through to winehq to
>ask this but their site seems to be dead.
Ask in comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine and get help from the
developers.
Reinhard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Changing Prompt Color
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 04:47:20 GMT
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:52:23 GMT, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I change the color of the prompt when using bash or tcsh? Also,
> how do I get it to display the full path instead of just the current
> directory?
#!/bin/bash
#
# ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.
#
[snip]
PS1='($?) \[\033[00;36m\]`pwd`/\[\033[0m\]_ '
export PS1
[snip]
As others have mentioned, there are bash constructs to do the '`pwd`'
part. I just don't like the way they do it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul E. Larson)
Subject: Re: 98 and Linux
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 04:50:09 GMT
In article <8ktolo$hn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc <jVrc5.14585$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul E.
> Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That is because there isn't, it is the default format until you go below the
>> 540mb line!
>
>Odd, then, that it formatted a 2gig partition as FAT16 instead of FAT32
>when I used it. Of course, since I only use Win98 for the games, I've
>not dug terribly far into it. I have Linux, it formatted FAT32, Windows
>uses it fine, I'm happy.
>
That might make sense if you created the partition as a FAT16 partition. In
most fdisk and similar programs you can designate what the partition will
format as. So I am probably slightly wron..... incorr.... mistaken in my
explantion of format using FAT32 as the default. Probably more a function of
the partition type code when you creatre the partition.
Paul
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Subject: Re: numerical computations under Linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 05:00:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
' David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
' > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) writes:
'
' > ' I've always thought it rude to use gcc to malign so many useful
' > ' concepts.
'
' > Such puns are punishable by law. You are sentenced to a severe noodle
' > whipping.
'
' Is that all? I'd sentence him to a week with nothing but windows...
' (Or am I being just a tad too sadistic???)
That may work in your country. In this country, we have a
Constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishments.
We could extradite him to your country.
Or we could send him to Texas where more people are executed before
5am than in most other countries all day ;-).
--
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The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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From: Juergen Leeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PHOTOPAINT INSTALL FAILTURE
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 06:57:45 +0200
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Dave Brown schrieb:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Juergen Leeb wrote:
> >I tried to install Corel Photopaint for linux on my Suse 6.4 system.
> >The installion procedure works fine.
> >But at the first start, when wine is should be set up i get following
> >error message:
> >
> >err:seh:EXC_DefaultHandling Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0
> >addr
> >
> >Does somebody know how to solve this problem?
>
> I'd like to know, too. And I've seen several other posts from folks who
> have encountered the same problem. (On RedHat 6.2).
>
> It makes me wonder if Corel Linux "experts" are forbidden to read Linux
> newsgroups... or if they can't figure it out either. (Perhaps there
> are no Corel Linux "experts", or maybe they were laid-off in the recent
> cutbacks.)
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Can=B4t?= mount 2GB windows partitions
Date: 17 Jul 2000 05:01:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:05:21 +0200, Joerg Spilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>i�ve 3 windows partitions on my Linux box (/dev/hda1,2,3 with sizes of
>700MB, 2GB and 1.3GB). The partition type of all partitions is c
>(Windows 95 FAT32(LBA)). Support for vfat is enabled according to
>/proc/filesystems.
>
>I can mount the partitions < 2GB. When i try to mount the 2GB
>partition the following error appeared:
>
>Jun 29 19:15:18 tekener kernel: [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT
>16,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022]
>Jun 29 19:15:18 tekener kernel:
>[me=0xf8,cs=64,#f=2,fs=1,fl=249,ds=499,de=512,data=531,se=0,ts=4096575,ls=512,rc=0,fc=4294967295]
>Jun 29 19:15:18 tekener kernel: Transaction block size = 512
>Jun 29 19:15:18 tekener kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid MSDOS
>filesystem on dev 03:02.
>
>All hda1-3 are primary partitions on a 20 GB disk and hda4 is an
>extented partition which contains some more logical partitions for
>linux.
>
>I think the main problem is that the kernel tries to load the FAT16
>module (which is MSDOS type and not VFAT). But why? This happens even
>with -vfat as mount options.
The vfat module uses the msdos module.
But something seems strange here. Windows only does one primary partition
per drive, can each of these partitions be booted separately? Windows
would normally translate cylinders and heads, so VFAT partitions smaller
that 8GB would typically be type 'b' instead of 'c'.
Maybe posting the output of 'p' from Linux fdisk would be helpful.
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From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.programming
Subject: Re: programming tools and techniques
Date: 17 Jul 2000 05:04:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes in comp.sys.sun.apps:
|I am taking a beginner C language course.
|Could you kindly share your experience with me?
|Where can information be found about the following topics:
|
|When, why and how to use a debugger?
|What is it used for?
Since you're asking in UNIX newsgroups, I have to assume you're using
a UNIX system. If so, try running "man gdb" and "man dbx".
|When, why and how to use a Make?
|What is it used for?
|What is a target?
|What is a makefile?
"man make"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Telnet and Backspace Problem
Date: 17 Jul 2000 05:21:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:12:04 GMT, Prasanth A. Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Hoffmann) writes:
>
>> When I telnet into our HP-UX and AIX boxes from Linux, neither the
>> backspace key or left-arrow key erase the previous character as they do
>> when I am in a normal bash shell.
>> I have looked in man telnet and did not see anything there that would
>> help. I did see a reference to a .telnetrc file, but can not locate
>> anything of substance regarding it. It is possible the answer lies
>> there. Can someone point me to a source of information that I could
>> use to solve this problem. I am getting tired of CTRL-C'ing every time
>> I make a typo and having to retype the entire command. Thanks.
>
>Yes, that is the hallmark of a Unix system ;-)
>
>Does the following help you: 'stty erase ^H'
If the backspace doesn't work, maybe delete will work as backspace. Or
maybe 'stty erase ^?' if ^H does not work. On my Solaris ISP they had it
set to use ^H, but I modified my .login for csh so if TERM=linux, it would
set TERM=vt100 and stty erase ^?. In RedHat an xterm (gnome terminal)
worked fine, but Konsole (KDE xterm) needed ^?.
BSDi seems to automatically use the right character regardless of what it
is (as do RH to Mandrake and Mandrake to RH). I wish I could figure out
how to do that on Solaris so both RH and Mandrake xterm would work
properly.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentium Kernel compile problems with PGCC 2.95.3
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:08:59 -0500
Brian Foddy wrote:
>
> I am having problems compiling a good kernel with the latest PGCC 2.95.3
>
> for a Penium 100.
>
> I have 2 machines, a P2-450 and a Pentium-100. I built and loaded
> the latest PGCC from source on the P2 machine. Everything seemed to
> be working fine until I try and build code for the Penium machine from
> the P2. If I build PentiumPro code for the P2 machine, the kernels work
> fine.
> When I build Pentium code however, the kernel doesn't load. After the
> lilo selection is made, I get the Loading message with the dots, but
> before
> all the dots are output (and definately before the uncompressing) the
> machine reboots, no error message.
>
> Details: I am using -O6, -march=pentium, -mpenium, -mcpu=pentium
> -DCPU=586
> plus all the other normal options in the compiles. I've tried -O2 also
> but to the same result. I'm compiling Mandrakes 2.2.16 kernel.
> The P2 has Mandrake 7.1, the Pentium has Mandrake 6.1 but
> with upgraded kernels.
>
> I can take the exact same make files and .config files and move over to
> the Pentium machine which has an older version of PGCC 2.91.66
> and build and they work fine. Also the standard gcc compiler on the P2
> works
> fine. To my knowledge, I'm doing all the same and
> correct steps in loading the kernel, I am re-running lilo with the
> correct
> lilo.conf settings. But clearly it doesn't get far enough to get
> into most of the modules and other problem areas.
For an i586 Change line 19 in the Makefile to read:
HOSTCFLAGS = -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O3 -march=pentium -mcpu=pentium
-ffast-math -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-mem -fforce-addr
-malign-double -fno-exceptions
Also change line 90 to read:
CFLAGS = -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O3 -march=pentium -mcpu=pentium
-ffast-math -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-mem -fforce-addr
-malign-double -fno-exceptions
The O3 is the capital letter O
Also change line 18 to read:
HOSTCC =egcs
And line 25 to read:
CC =$(CROSS_COMPILE)egcs D__KERNEL__ -I$(HPATH)
Hope this helps
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From: Dave Salovesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: undelete directory?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 01:39:04 -0400
In <8kts9g$spt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:
(snip advert for Win98 software)
Grrrr....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: gcc, can't determine hostname now
Date: 17 Jul 2000 02:09:32 GMT
After installing gcc-2.95.2 from the gnu source tarball (using ./configure;
make; make install) the compiler appears to be working ok but now configure
scripts are unable to automatically determine the hosttype anymore
(i586-pc-linux-gnu).
I've used the default settings throughout, ie prefix=/usr/local etc.
Any ideas what I'm missing so it can find its own hostype again? This is on
SuSE 6.4 (gcc/g77/libg++ rpms removed).
Frinky
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Changing Prompt Color
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:29:25 -0500
"s. keeling" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:52:23 GMT, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do I change the color of the prompt when using bash or tcsh? Also,
> > how do I get it to display the full path instead of just the current
> > directory?
>
> #!/bin/bash
> #
> # ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.
> #
> [snip]
> PS1='($?) \[\033[00;36m\]`pwd`/\[\033[0m\]_ '
> export PS1
> [snip]
>
> As others have mentioned, there are bash constructs to do the '`pwd`'
> part. I just don't like the way they do it.
Edit the /etc/bashrc file and Comment out the "PS1=" line and directly
below it places these lines. This will make the root prompt red and the
user prompt yellow
if [ `id -un` = root ]; then
PS1='\[\033[1;31m\]\h:\w\$\[\033[0m\] '
else
PS1='\[\033[1;33m\]\h:\w\$\[\033[0m\] '
fi
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