Linux-Misc Digest #155, Volume #26 Fri, 27 Oct 00 06:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Administrator multi-purpose wanted in France ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Newbie: make install - suggest easy installation (Andreas
=?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Jerry L Kreps,,,)
Re: Linux killed my computer (Jerry L Kreps,,,)
Re: Mutt kills Linus. (Jerry L Kreps,,,)
Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives? (Jerry L Kreps,,,)
Re: CPU frequency into my program (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
"Operation not permitted" while unpacking tarballs ("Runar Woldt")
Re: Ghost Linux (John Thompson)
PHP problem (Rafael - LumesITSupport)
eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 1)! (NortonNg)
Why does my clock keeps loosing time? (Roy Smith)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Administrator multi-purpose wanted in France
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:58:10 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: Newbie: make install - suggest easy installation
Date: 27 Oct 2000 10:14:00 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karsten Wutzke wrote:
>Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karsten Wutzke wrote:
>> >Hi all!
>> >
>> >I've written a Java application, it is for my software practicum, but I
>> >hardly use Linux (blown installation).
>> >
>> >What's the "standard" way of installing software? I have to use "make
>> >install", so what do I require the user to do before issuing "make
>> >install"? Do I require the user to create the appropriate directory
>> >structure (like appname/classes), do I require the user to pass in a
>> >directory, or will I simply choose a default directory like
>> >/usr/appname?
>> >
>> >Please suggest any easy installation types, especially those involving
>> >"make install".
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Karsten
>>
>> Usually people go with the package manager that is used in the
>> distribution that they use. On Red Hat systems this meand "RPM" and on
>> Debian systems it means the Debian package manager ("DPKG" I think
>> it's called).
>>
>> I can't speak for RPMs, but for building Debian packages you should
>> read the Debian Packaging Manual at
>> <URL:http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/packaging.html/>.
>>
>> To build GNU packages, read the GNU Coding Standards at
>> <URL:http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_toc.html>.
>>
>
>OK. Thanks. But what's the "best"/easiest way to go with "make install"?
>
>Karsten
If you want *any* kind of "standard" for writing Makefiles on
GNU/Linux systems, then you *should* read the section on "Makefile
Conventions" in the GNU Coding Standards at
<URL:http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_toc.html>.
If you're just interested in copying the files to the "right" place,
then use a Makefile rule that looks something like this:
install: alltargets
cp myfile1 /usr/local/somepathtoinstallin/
cp myfile2 /usr/local/somepathtoinstallin/
# etc.
where "alltargets" is one or many other Makefile targets that has to
be built before installing.
This won't check to see if the installation directory exists or not
(read the manual for 'mkdir').
/A (taking no responsibilities for any consequences of this post)
--
Andreas K�h�ri, Uppsala University, Sweden
========================================================================
"If you leave now, you're going to miss the real experience."
-- Richard M. Stallman, Stockholm 1986. Visit www.gnu.org
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From: Jerry L Kreps,,, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:16:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jason wrote:
> True, but we have to remember that the vast majority of users were weaned
> on
> Windows of one sort of another. While Windows has a "few" quirks to it,
> for the most part its much more user friendly and less intimidating then
> Linux/Unix can be.
> But Linux is defiantly catching up to Windows in user friendliness. RH7
> was
> a piece of cake to install and just as easy to configure. I must be one
> of the few to feel that way judging by some of the posts though.
>
> Jason
> "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:39f8f547$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | depends on your background.
> |
> | if comming from unix then ...
> |
> | but apple os is easyer than all if computer illiterate (my opinion)
> |
> | windows is easy if you upgrade from windows ...
> |
> |
> | Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> | news:Ub6K5.310$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | > I disagree with this one sorry. Win2k can be rock solid, mines been
> | > up
> | and
> | > running for 1 month. The only time it goes down is updates and
> | > thunderstorms. I might also add the Linux box has been up for 2
> | > weeks. Course that's also how long I've had it running Linux.
> | >
> | > But come on, you can't be seriously saying that learning Linux is as
> easy
> | to
> | > learn as windows?
> | >
> | > Jason
> | > "John Hasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> | > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | > | Arctic Storm writes:
> | > | > Win2K is just as stable, but easy and user-friendly.
> | > |
> | > | A friend of mine (a quite experienced Windows user) just installed
> | Win2K.
> | > | If his experience is any guide, you'll never get it to work.
> | > |
> | > | Buy a machine with Linux pre-installed, like you did your Windows
> | > | box. --
> | > | John Hasler
> | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > | Dancing Horse Hill
> | > | Elmwood, Wisconsin
Jason,
I wouldn't let the number of posts on this newsgroup about bad RH 7
installs be any guide to the overall stability of RH 7. For the most part,
all you get is posts about bad experiences. Folks that never have any
trouble rarely post anything at all. The same is probably true about Win2K
newsgroups.
BTW, how does your TCO between W2K and Linux compare? ;-)
And, for grins, would you server on a warship that was totally controlled
by W2k, ie, communications, navigation and stearing, defense and fire
control, or have you served on the USS Yorktown?
JLK
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From: Jerry L Kreps,,, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux killed my computer
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:19:45 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does the beep code sound off when the bios error occurs?
JLK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You are exactly right, muzh. But I already thought of that and have
> already removed all the expansion cards. I still cannot get the
> computer to accept any input at all beyond changing the settings in the
> setup utility. I am a million miles away from ever seeing a dos prompt
> or a unix prompt. It just freezes solid right after displaying the ide
> disk information normally, no error message or anything. If I remove
> the hard disk, is there a possibility that it then might boot to the
> floppy? Another piece of the puzzle is that it froze like this once
> before but i fixed it by removing the nic card. . . at which point,
> bios seemed to think that my hard disk was twice as big as it was
> before.
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think most of the replies missed the fact that the computer froze
> > *before* any operating system could be booted.
> > The usual way to diagnose this is to try to reboot after removing
> > expansion cards, hard disks etc one by one, until the computer
> suddenly
> > boots again. The last object removed is then the one which caused the
> > fault -- ?IRQ conflict ?faulty card or object ?configured wrong etc.
> > I had this happen twice -- once was a hard disk too many, and another
> > time it was an IRQ conflict with a PCI sound card, solved by putting
> it
> > in a different slot.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > After using Disk Druid to partition my harddrive, the Linux setup
> asked
> > > me to reboot. Upon rebooting, the computer froze just after
> displaying
> > > that it had found the various drives and their sizes. The computer
> > > will not boot to an operating system to either the hard drive or the
> > > floppy drive. I tried tearing out all the NIC's and such to see if
> > > there was a conflict somehow but of course that didn't work. The
> bios
> > > sees the harddrive and I can access the setup utility, but the
> computer
> > > will not boot. I now have a big metal paperweight. Does anyone
> know
> > > how Linux killed my computer and how I can revive it?
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > --
> > Never trust a man in a suit
> >
> > cll
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Jerry L Kreps,,, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mutt kills Linus.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:24:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> From the subject line, I hope this _isn't_ a story about how a stray dog
> of unknown breed mauled Linus Torvalds to death ;-)
>
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:49:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Full text of story at:
> >
> >http://www.stlnet.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2829695318CF7837862569
> >82003872CE
> >
> >--
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
> Lew Pitcher
> IT Consultant, Development Services
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
IT'S NOT!
It's a story about two vicious dogs that attacked and killed a seeing-eye
dog whose name was Linus. The owner, 57, was volunteering in an animal
shelter when the attack occured. The two dogs had previously killed a
puppy, but the shelter had a 'no kill' policy. Now they do, but it is too
late to help the lady, who doesn't qualify for a replacement because her
broken hip won't allow her to help train the new dog.
It was a post in bad taste.
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From: Jerry L Kreps,,, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:28:05 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having just installed KDE2 I must say that I am really impressed by
Konqueror!
JLK
Andrew N. McGuire wrote:
> >>>>> "HB" == Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> HB> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:35:31 +0200, Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I say Netscape:
> >> I said cool, but now I say : Buggy
>
> HB> I say Mozilla. Not quite there, but close, and damn nice. Even the
> HB> nightly builds are usable.
>
> A note here, someone else suggested lynx, I think links is slightly
> better. Another alternative is to start learning emacs, and use w3
> as a browser, vm (or rmail, or mh-e) as a mail client, and gnus as
> a newsreader.
>
> >> I ask: Alternatives (especialy mail in x)
>
> HB> I say mutt.
>
> HB> -extremely stable
> HB> -extremely fast
> HB> -extremely flexible/configurable
>
>
> HB> By far the most powerful mail handling system in the known universe:
>
> HB> fetchmail -> procmail -> mutt
>
> Perhaps. I currently use fetchmail -> procmail -> vm. I gave mutt
> a try, but frankly didn't like it.
>
> [ aside: how does one specify an alternative smtp server in mutt? ]
>
> anm
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: CPU frequency into my program
Date: 27 Oct 2000 10:38:50 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karsten Wutzke wrote:
>Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karsten Wutzke wrote:
>> >Hi all!
>> >
>> >In the shell, when typing:
>> >
>> >"cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz | cut -c 12-21"
>> >
>> >it will display the current processor frequency/ies. How do I get this
>> >value into my C program, e.g. as a float or double? I could redirect the
>> >output to a file, which is then opened, read and converted, but I'd like
>> >to avoid file I/O if possible. I'm using system("blah").
>> >
>> >Any ideas?
>> >
>> >Karsten
>>
>> The purpose of 'system' is not to deliver output from system commands.
>>
>
>Which function call does deliver output from the command line? Can I use
>one of Unix' built-in streams like stderr or stdaux(?) to retrieve the
>output?
The stderr stream is the standard error output stream, it's a C
standard thing. I don't know anything about a 'stdaux' (it's not
mentioned in the C or C++ standards and not in the Single Unix
Specification).
The function you want is not in the C standard.
There *is* a 'popen' (and 'pclose' (!)) function in the Single Unix
Specification (v2) that might interest you (read its manual page), but
please note that any program that relies on the location of shell
command binaries are most of the time pretty useless on other systems
than your own.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, Uppsala University, Sweden
========================================================================
"If you leave now, you're going to miss the real experience."
-- Richard M. Stallman, Stockholm 1986. Visit www.gnu.org
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From: "Runar Woldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Operation not permitted" while unpacking tarballs
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:16:16 +0200
Hi,
I have a curious problem here on a VectorLinux system running on a notebook.
Unpacking *.tar.gz files I get messages like this:
"Cannot change ownership to uid 501, gid 100: Operation not permitted",
(uid and gid number vary depending on package), or
"Cannot change mode to rwSr--r--: Operation not permitted"
I am looged in as Root. The packages are all owned by Root, and I couldn't
find anything unusual in the file permissions.
When, after unpacking, I try to install programmes, "./configure" usually
goes without problems, but "make" regularly stops with error messages for
instance complaining about "no permission to set hard link" between
libraries. So this obviously is a problem of ownership/permissions.
Can anybody tell what this is about?
Thanks in advance.
Runar
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghost Linux
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:35:16 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program that will ghost Linux in the same way as
> Norton Ghost works in Windows?
"info dd"
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Rafael - LumesITSupport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PHP problem
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:50:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wanted to upgrade my php 3 to php 4. During instalation I am informed
that I need new library. When I try to install new library I am geting
info that former library is needed by many application. WHy I can I not
have both, how to solve this problem?
Rafael
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From: NortonNg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 1)!
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:52:55 +0000 (UTC)
[ Article reposted from comp.os.linux.development.system ]
[ Author was NortonNg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
[ Posted on Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:18:32 +0000 (UTC) ]
I am using eepro100 for Intel 82559 chip NIC (but the driver said that it
was 82557 ), Redhat 7.0 Kernel 2.2.17 (patched from 2.2.16). After I do some
modification in dev.c for my packet dispatcher, when i run the nttcp
(performance benchmark) several times (about transfered 400mega bits),
both the gateway system will crash !! my configuration is below..
hostA<----->(eth1)IPSec gatewayA(eth0)<--->(eth0)IPSec GatewayB<-->hostB
the error messages of IPSec gateway A are:
eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 1)!
eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 1)!
eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 1)!
eth0: can't fill rx buffer (force 1)!
.....
....
eth1: card reports no resources
...
..
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd
.....
Sometimes when the "VM: do_try_to_free_pages.." messages are not occur,
i can restart eth1 of gateway A by ping hostA from gateway A.
my modified dev.c are here...
void net_bh(void )
{
...
..
while( !skb_queue_empty(&backlog))
{
...
...
type = skb->protocol;
//my part begin..
if( something )
{
memcpy(skb->mac.ethernet->h_dest , my_dest_mac , 6);//dest card addr
memcpy(skb->mac.ethernet->h_source, my_src_mac, 6); //my card address
offset = (skb->data) - (skb->mac.raw);
skb_push( skb , offset );
skb->nh.raw = skb->data + ETH_HLEN;
skb->priority = 1;
dev_queue_xmit(skb);
goto skip_label;
}
//end of my part.
handle_bridge(skb,type);
...
skip_label:
} //end of loop
....
...
}
My Intel NIC
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eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/eepro100.html
eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.20.2.10 $ 2000/05/31 Modified by Andrey V. Savochkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and others
eth0: Intel PCI EtherExpress Pro100 82557, 00:AE:C0:00:00:9B, I/O at 0xc000, IRQ 10.
Receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling work-around.
Board assembly 729757-006, Physical connectors present: RJ45
Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
General self-test: passed.
Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
Internal registers self-test: passed.
ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x04f4518b).
eth1: Intel PCI EtherExpress Pro100 82557, 00:AE:C0:00:00:9C, I/O at 0xc400, IRQ 11.
Receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling work-around.
Board assembly 729757-006, Physical connectors present: RJ45
Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
General self-test: passed.
Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
Internal registers self-test: passed.
ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x04f4518b).
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From: Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why does my clock keeps loosing time?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:44:47 -0400
I just installed RedHat 6.2 on a Compaq Deskpro. The clock runs fine
most of the time, but when I go away from the machine for a while and
come back to it, I often find the clock has lost a lot of time (like
many hours). I am not running NTP.
I suspect it's related to some sort of idle-time auto-power-down
process, but don't know enough about the PC hardware (I'm a traditional
unix guy, and a Mac fanatic on the side) to really understand what's
going on in that department.
Any ideas?
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