Linux-Misc Digest #165, Volume #24 Sun, 16 Apr 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: mkfs: 'command not found' (Phil Jones)
Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Q: migrate OS/2 to Linux ? (Karel Jansens)
Windows 2000 & Linux ("Kwizatz Haderach")
Re: IBM ThinkPad 390X 2626F0U (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: /dev (Cybrinjn)
Re: How to adjust the full screen for Red Hat 6.1 (Robie Basak)
Re: /dev (Robie Basak)
Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD... (Robie Basak)
Re: Red Hat Linux 6.0 UMP/Netscape plugin -- no sound (Munge)
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From: Phil Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: mkfs: 'command not found'
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:23:47 +0100
"Simon H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to get my floppy drive to work (using RH6.1). I know I need
>to fdformat the disk, make the filesystem, and mount the thing (assuming
>fstab is in order). I was told to use 'mkfs' (with a whole bunch of
>options) but just get 'command not found'. Is this the wrong command, or
>do I need to get hold of this utility from somewhere?
>
>Thanks,
>Simon
Simon=20
Are you logged in as root when trying as "command not found"
can be caused by permissions. On several Linux Systems I have tried
you need to be root before you can format a floppy disk. In KDE 1.2=20
there is a Kfloppy a format program which any user can use.
Phil Jones
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up
Date: 16 Apr 2000 13:36:52 +0100
Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: My question to the Linux users that gave all their answers, Why do you
: have to be so rude when a guy asked for help? Attitude like that will not
Hello .. have I missed somebody referring to me? Please mail me if you
want to insult me personally :-).
The answer to your question, whatever you are referring to: it's probably not
rudeness but truth. If the truth hurts you in any way at all, then it's your
problem.
: help Linux. We all know Linux is better but answering with a "I know
: better than you" attitude will turn a lot of people off to Linux. Yes,
This is your reading of the attidude! And in any case, it's true, or at
least I hope so. Anyone asking for help plainly does not know better. So
what? If I ask for help I expect someone who DOES know better to answer.
And to make it plain that they do know better!
: Linux is better so lets act in a more professional manner. This is not the
: Revenge of the Nerds.
Sure it is. At the very least!
: William R. Ramby wrote:
: >
: > I agree with Robie. If you want to chase off newcomers and irreversibly
: > doom Linux to a niche market, keep answering questions with insults like
A niche market? How many of you are using solaris!
: > Peter gave out.
What insult? Please quote whatever it is you are talking about! I see no insult
below.
: > Robie Basak wrote:
: > > On 12 Apr 2000 15:32:39 GMT, Peter T. Breuer said:
: > > >Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > > >: Now, when I tried rebooting, it tells me to press: CTRL+D for a normal
: > > >: start up or to give the root password for maintenance. Anyways I type
: > > >: the password and type 'fsck' and it responds with "Parallelizing fsck
: > > >: version 1.15 (18-Jul-1999). I also tried 'mke2fs /dev/hda1' but tells
: > > >
: > > >man fsck.
: > > >
: > > >: me that 'hda1' is in use. Can someone tell me what I must do to get it
: > > >: back up and running?
: > >
: > > It might still be mounted read-write; you're lucky it was, otherwise
: > > mke2fs will wipe it. Do:
: > > mount -o ro,remount /dev/hda1 /mount_point
: > > (I don't know what your mount_point is, you should (it's in /etc/fstab)
: > >
: > > >NAME
: > > > fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
: > > >
: > > >SYNOPSIS
: > > > fsck [ -sACVRTNP ] [ -t fstype ] [--] [ fsck-options ]
: > > > filesys [ ... ]
: > > >
: > > >E.g. "fsck /dev/hda1"!
: > > >
: > > >Now what was the mote in your eye that prevented you doing or seeing
: > > >that?
: > >
: > > Excellent point, unless he doesn't know about the man command.
: > > Windows people (if he is one) won't be used to having an easy yet
: > > comprehensive online help system.
Should one stop telling people to "read the instructions" on the grounds
that they are not used to reading the instructions? (or perhaps in
having instructions that can be read, as you seem to imply). One has to
bootstrap oneself into a new o/s, and that's a matter of basic
intelligence, as well as seeking out the instructions in order to read
them. The first time I got a unix system, I executed every binary that
was executable and that I could find, just to see what it did. Thus I
discovered "man". No, I didn't read the instructions either. They came
in two wall-shelves of bound printouts. "cd" was enough, plus the help
output from most executables.
Peter
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Q: migrate OS/2 to Linux ?
Date: 16 Apr 2000 12:44:32 GMT
G. Asch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Karel Jansens <jansens_at_ibm_dot_net> writes:
>
> KJ> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony) wrote:
>
> KJ> Ah, but Warp's WPS is _not_ a GUI. It's an OOUI, an
> KJ> Object-Oriented User Interface; the only one on the face of the
> KJ> planet (and probably in the known universe as well). It's bloody
> KJ> hard to explain without actually dragging you kicking and
> KJ> screaming in front of a Warp computer, but imagine you had an
> KJ> intelligent desktop that you could program with your mouse. Start
> KJ> from there and work your way up.
>
> KJ> There is (was?) a guy in Germany who is trying to make something
> KJ> that resembles the WPS and will run in Linux. It's called DFM and
> KJ> I think the homepage is at
>
> KJ> http://dfm.linuxbox.com
>
>
> Somewhere in an IBM white paper I saw mentionned an X version of the WPS.
> ( mayxe I was dreaming)
> If such beast ever existed, it is sure the saddest thing that IBM
> hasn't released it to linux.
I'm sure you are. There have been people searching desperately, even
threatening IBM-employess to death, for such a thing. Alas, it is not,
and from what I hear the differences under the hood between OS/2 and
Linux are just to big to make a simple port work.
<wheeping and gnashing of the teeth>
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
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Pls put me in yr sigline and help me spread."
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From: "Kwizatz Haderach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows 2000 & Linux
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:51:42 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 390X 2626F0U
Date: 16 Apr 2000 14:32:33 +0100
Jimmy Navarro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Yeap right, read the HOW-TO or buy Linux for dummies, what else.
I dunno. What are you trying to say? The Partition-HOWTO is directed
exactly at your problem. It tells you exactly what you asked. My
advice would not be any different from the advice given there.
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
: > Jimmy Navarro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: > : I just bought a new IBM Thinkpad 390X 2626F0U with 64MB RAM 4.8GB HD
: > : pre-partitioned into two, first partition has pre-loaded Windows 98.
: > : Now I want Linux Red Hat 6.1 or Mandrake 7.0 in the 2.5 GB remaining
: > : space. I tried simple install just configuring swap for 64MB and
: > : install script would do the rest somehow never worked may be because I'm
: > : so used to the text_based install not the GUI install. Anyone can
: > : kindly give me their best suggested partitioning scheme manually like
: > : 64MB for Swap, /root for how many MB, /var, /home /usr, etc...? I'd
: > : like to allocate partitions manually. Thanks.
: >
: > Read the Partition-HOWTO.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Crashed and Can't Get Up
Date: 16 Apr 2000 12:40:42 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : My question to the Linux users that gave all their answers, Why do you
> : have to be so rude when a guy asked for help? Attitude like that will not
>
> Hello .. have I missed somebody referring to me? Please mail me if you
> want to insult me personally :-).
>
> The answer to your question, whatever you are referring to: it's probably not
> rudeness but truth. If the truth hurts you in any way at all, then it's your
> problem.
>
> : help Linux. We all know Linux is better but answering with a "I know
> : better than you" attitude will turn a lot of people off to Linux. Yes,
>
> This is your reading of the attidude! And in any case, it's true, or at
> least I hope so. Anyone asking for help plainly does not know better. So
> what? If I ask for help I expect someone who DOES know better to answer.
> And to make it plain that they do know better!
>
> : Linux is better so lets act in a more professional manner. This is not the
> : Revenge of the Nerds.
>
> Sure it is. At the very least!
>
> : William R. Ramby wrote:
> : >
> : > I agree with Robie. If you want to chase off newcomers and irreversibly
> : > doom Linux to a niche market, keep answering questions with insults like
>
> A niche market? How many of you are using solaris!
>
> : > Peter gave out.
>
> What insult? Please quote whatever it is you are talking about! I see no insult
> below.
>
> : > Robie Basak wrote:
> : > > On 12 Apr 2000 15:32:39 GMT, Peter T. Breuer said:
> : > > >Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : > > >: Now, when I tried rebooting, it tells me to press: CTRL+D for a normal
> : > > >: start up or to give the root password for maintenance. Anyways I type
> : > > >: the password and type 'fsck' and it responds with "Parallelizing fsck
> : > > >: version 1.15 (18-Jul-1999). I also tried 'mke2fs /dev/hda1' but tells
> : > > >
> : > > >man fsck.
> : > > >
> : > > >: me that 'hda1' is in use. Can someone tell me what I must do to get it
> : > > >: back up and running?
> : > >
> : > > It might still be mounted read-write; you're lucky it was, otherwise
> : > > mke2fs will wipe it. Do:
> : > > mount -o ro,remount /dev/hda1 /mount_point
> : > > (I don't know what your mount_point is, you should (it's in /etc/fstab)
> : > >
> : > > >NAME
> : > > > fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
> : > > >
> : > > >SYNOPSIS
> : > > > fsck [ -sACVRTNP ] [ -t fstype ] [--] [ fsck-options ]
> : > > > filesys [ ... ]
> : > > >
> : > > >E.g. "fsck /dev/hda1"!
> : > > >
> : > > >Now what was the mote in your eye that prevented you doing or seeing
> : > > >that?
> : > >
> : > > Excellent point, unless he doesn't know about the man command.
> : > > Windows people (if he is one) won't be used to having an easy yet
> : > > comprehensive online help system.
>
> Should one stop telling people to "read the instructions" on the grounds
> that they are not used to reading the instructions? (or perhaps in
> having instructions that can be read, as you seem to imply). One has to
> bootstrap oneself into a new o/s, and that's a matter of basic
> intelligence, as well as seeking out the instructions in order to read
> them. The first time I got a unix system, I executed every binary that
> was executable and that I could find, just to see what it did. Thus I
> discovered "man". No, I didn't read the instructions either. They came
> in two wall-shelves of bound printouts. "cd" was enough, plus the help
> output from most executables.
>
> Peter
Arrogance is unbecoming, and you are displaying a fine example of
it to the world. We all have to start somewhere. The man pages
are excellent for someone with a wealth of background knowledge.
Newbies are trying to get that. Help them along with kindness.
They are your friends, not your rivals. After all, the intelligence
you insult today may build a progam you enjoy tomorrow...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cybrinjn)
Subject: Re: /dev
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:47:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Take a look in the Linux source tree for
usr/src/linux-x.x.xx/Documentation/devices.txt. It gives a complete picture
of the device files. ...where angels fear to tread.
Paul
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:08:41 -0400, Charles Brands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I would like to prune my /dev directory of anything I don't need.
>Unfortunally for most files in that directory I have no idea what
>they are for. I know that these files represent devises and that hda
>represents my first harddrive, therefore I can guess the meaning of
>hdb but for the others I am without a clue. None of the linux books I
>have mentione the files in the /dev directory other than hda(x). I was
>wondering if someone knows a website that describes these files so
>that learn there meaning.
>Thanks
>Charles Brands
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: How to adjust the full screen for Red Hat 6.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2000 12:55:13 GMT
On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 04:36:55 +0000, Andras said:
>Garel wrote:
>>
>> After I installed the monitor which I had a Philip brillance 15 inch and
>> using 800x600 16 colour and after that I found the 1/4 side is blank on the
>> right side. What the cause and how to use the full screen?
>Is the screen squeezed (you see everything on it, but with a funny
>horizontal/vertical ratio) or is 1/4 of the screen image hidden?
>
>In the first case you should play around with the adjustment buttons you
>can find on your monitor
Also, there's a program called xvidtune which lets you adjust a few
things; you'll need to write down the values it comes up with after
adjusting and edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file.
This is only if Andras' method doesn't work, though - this way is
much more complicated.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: /dev
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2000 13:01:34 GMT
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:08:41 -0400, Charles Brands said:
>Hi
>
>I would like to prune my /dev directory of anything I don't need.
I wouldn't recommend it; you never know when you'll need something,
and they don't use up much space (just an inode).
>Unfortunally for most files in that directory I have no idea what
>they are for. I know that these files represent devises and that hda
>represents my first harddrive, therefore I can guess the meaning of
>hdb but for the others I am without a clue. None of the linux books I
>have mentione the files in the /dev directory other than hda(x). I was
>wondering if someone knows a website that describes these files so
>that learn there meaning.
If you do:
cat /proc/devices
it'll tell you the major numbers of the ones you're currently using;
if you do:
ls -l /dev
it'll tell you the major and minor numbers of the devices. This way
you can work out which ones you're using.
Also, try /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt if you have the
kernel source installed (www.kernel.org) - it gives a comprehensive
list.
However, there are some special ones (/dev/log etc.) which won't
appear in /proc/devices (or the kernel source), which is why I
wouldn't recommend pruning it (OK so they aren't devices nodes, but
anyway). I also wouldn't remove /dev/MAKEDEV, as this is how you
restore them.
Seriously, you'll probably find that you've cleared about 20K of space
and stuff will stop working, so I wouldn't bother.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2000 13:09:03 GMT
On 15 Apr 2000 17:22:03 GMT, Bill Unruh said:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> anok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> Tux, no. You don't reinstall Linux to fix a bad password; that's
>>> Microsoft Mentality speaking.
>>>
>
>>You know, maybe for once, this isn't such a bad thing...Isn't there a
>>certain security hazard with being able to login as root to a linux box
>>without knowing the password?
>
>Yes, there certainly is.
>However, if someone has physical access to the machine, then security is
>already severely comprimised. However, having to say remove the hard
>disk is certainly more of a barrier than simply typing
>linux 1
>However you can also password lilo ( man lilo.conf) so that booting into
>single user mode causes you to have to enter that password. Youcan also
>password your bios, so that booting from a floppy requires a password.
>Unfortunately if you forget those passwords, then you not only have to
>reinstall but you have to open up your case and zero out your CMOS. So
>the level of security should be tailored to your security threats.
Of course, if you dual-boot with Windows, then it can read/write to
all parts of your hard-drive; including where LILO stores the password.
This makes setting BIOS passwords etc. pointless. In fact, come to think
of it, any Windows 95/98 computer which has a BIOS password can reset the
it by running debug and typing a couple of commands :-)
Robie.
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From: Munge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 6.0 UMP/Netscape plugin -- no sound
Date: 16 Apr 2000 09:48:45 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Barry L. Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Now, when I first installed UMP, I got all kinds of error messages.
: (Sometimes, it was the /dev/dsp wasn't available. Sometimes it was all
: kinds of dialog boxes with errors. I ruled these up to my sound system,
: and I believe it was.) Now, when I access pages that (supposedly) play
: MIDI clips, I don't get any errors at all, but I get absolutely nothing
Do a "ps ax | grep esd", if you get a line with the keyword "esd"
then type in "killall -KILL esd". It should then work.
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